Denver close enough?
How many cables do you need?
Marlon
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I have a Hawking wireless one. Nothing to
write home about thought.
If there's a t-1 involved I'd think you'd want to
use the cisco (or whatever) that's already on the t-1.
If you are going to back up a t-1 I'd certainly
look at a higher end unit than a Linksys or something along those
That's Nusrat's new company. He's one of the original owners of
Teletronics.
Marlon
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Bo Hamilton wrote:
I'm in the market for a dual WAN router. Could I get some feedback
on the some that you guys and gals are using. I have some clients
using me as a backup for their T1's, so Im just trying to find out
wich one's are the best to go with.
Mikrotik with
Bo,
I would use a MikroTik box in an indoor
enclosure, The RB532 w/64Megs of ram running OSPF would be easy, fast and as
reliable as anything I know. Another solution if you were looking for a rack
mount set up would be to get a Cisco router and drop a couple modules in it and
do their
If you are familiar with RouterOS a routerboard 500 would do the trick
and only run you about $175
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Dylan Oliver wrote:
You might check Peplink.com http://Peplink.com for its Balance
products -
http://www.peplink.com/productsLoader.php?productName=balance
With last week's discussion on the ability of different product lines to
support simultaneous VoIP calls, I'd like to start a discussion on VoIP
as a service offering. First, a little introduction. I'm in the
planning stages of an ISP. I intend to target small/medium businesses
(no
Pat,
VoIP is going to be a steady stream of anywhere from 30k to 100k
depending on codec, equipment and handshake. (Think of it like the way
modem's work ... you don't get 56k, you get what is negotiated. Hosted
PBX or IP Centrex offerings tend to eat up more bandwidth. Can your
network
Before you talk about VoIP technology/deployment issues, you might want to
address your deployment amechanism. What technology are you planning to use
in order to deploy your broadband? Wireless, I would assume? If so, what
hardware? Choosing the right type of hardware on the last-mile is
Thanks everyone for all the feedback!!!
Bo
On 6/19/06, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are familiar with RouterOS a routerboard 500 would do the trickand only run you about $175
Sam Tetherow Sandhills WirelessDylan Oliver wrote: You might check Peplink.com http://Peplink.com for
Larry did a good job of laying out some of the considerations, but be
aware that none of these choices exist in a vacuum. For example, if you
do voice over internet your upstream is going to be a major concern in
terms of both capacity and latency. Compare this with running your own
voice
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service provider. Not
in the long term.
The money will be in the ability to offer good voip capacity but not the
voip it's self.
Yeah, I know, there are people making money with voip. I heard that song
and dance about hot spots too.
Nothing specified yet.
That's one of the questions.
Marlon
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VoIP is going to be a steady stream of anywhere from 30k to 100k
depending on codec, equipment and handshake.
Lets not forget that 30k packet is a 28k header with a 2k payload. Make sure
your infrastructure can handle 20,000 packets per second.
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Note: It's also a great way to inexpensively get access to small pockets of
customers that one could not otherwise get to.
We're going as far as 3 towers deep with ptptmptmptmp.
point to point to multipoint to multipoint to multipoint. Speeds at the end
are around 1 meg. Total customers on
Grin. Mine still hurt!
Though building the danged addition has been at least as hard. I'm 40 now.
I'm too old to be pounding nails! The fact that I'm a computer geek doesn't
help much either. grin
Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna pass it along to some other wisps.
laters,
Marlon
(509)
Marlon,
He did say he was selling to SMB, not Resi.
Very few small businesses are going to use Yahoo, AIM, or MS as a
dial-tone replacement. Skype is free within the US now, so some will try
that, but there are security concerns (growing daily) about VoIP,
especially with the mandatory CALEA
Title: Message
are
you planning on getting your customer an AS running
BGP?
if not
-- and you're willing to roll up your sleaves a bit, you can "hack it" w/ some
Mikrotik scripting (In my ISP days, one of my customers back in 2002/2003, Larry
Yunker actually, was doing this b/n our
Title: Message
it's a
bit more complicated than OSPF if you're trying to backup ANOTHER provider's
connection (assuming separate ASes, etc)
-Charles
P.S.
-- ASes = Plural for Autonamous Systems, not that other dirty word
=/
---CWLabTechnology
Probably yes, but not necessarilly.
It really depends on how much all the non-guaranteed users are using.
My average usage per business client is 16 kbps average usage 95%tile. If
your business clients have similar usage statistics, you'd do fine with the
Trango capable of pushing 2.5 mbps.
The only Wisp I ever heard of in Wyoming is Brett Glass, and the only
place I see his posts are on isp-wireless list. I have no idea about
Wyoming geography.
pd
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Shot in the dark, but if there are any providers out there that can
hit these places, I am a customer
One of the requirements of layer 2 transport is the ability to deliver a
full 1500 byte payload.
Fully agree. One of the top reasons we chose Trango 5 years ago.
Its abilty to pass VLAN traffic, as well as future techknowlogies such as
MPLS that were identified but only emerging at the time.
Great. 1540 covers just about all needs I can think of off the top of my
head.
I forget exactly what IPSEC used, but I believe it is less than 1540 as
well.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Brad Larson [EMAIL
FWIW, I already cover the same places Brett does. Most of these are out
in the middle of nowhere - and I mean way the hell out there. I did
get a response from Wyoming.com and it looks like they will be able to
pick up a couple of them.
Apparently, the US Postal Service is trying to get
A little more information on my situation:
I'm considering VoIP only as a selling point. I don't expect to make
much money on the voice service alone. I intend to use it to be able to
up-sell the Internet connection, since many small businesses don't place
much value on their Internet
Canopy does support 802.1Q at the CPE for both the customer's ethernet
interface and the built-in management interface. Not sure about VLAN
prioritization but there is some sort of high-priority queue mechanism
for voice or other critical traffic.
Patrick
Tom DeReggi wrote:
One of the
Patrick,
I have to agree with you that is some exciting data.
However, I don't want the world to forget one of the core reasons to chose
Alvarion.
And it has nothing to do with new features. The abilty to have higher
capacity links (14-24 mbps real), using OFDM, and being able to pull off the
wyoming.com and visionary are the only other 2 i'm aware of, but
something tells me you probably already know of them. folks from
either of them could be on this list, i just haven't seen any posts...
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One way to cherry pick on VOIP is to specialize in the phone systems and
make sure that they keep at least one POTS line. Then, even with a dead
internet connection, they will still have (albeit limited) capabilitity
to get out and receive phone calls, and also to handle 911.
I recently
Paul,
Although many have reported very high speeds with Mikrotik. Our live tests
in noisy environments (wether accepted as accurate or not) showed we were
not able to get the peak speeds out of Mikrotik where we could get them from
Alvarion. Our comparative tests were done with the Alvarion
Maybe thats a question we should be asking you.
What is your friend using for MPLS?
I beleive Matt is using all Cisco.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List'
On a side note, we have had much higher results per sector using Trango for
VOIP (before any VOIP enhancement.).
Unfortuneately we don't have concrete real world data to report, but its
pretty high.
We are doing more detailed tests probably in the next week or so.
(as soon as we get our VOIP
Matt brings out a good point that shows the benefit of PTPs and Syncing
feature of Canopy.
I don't deny these advantages, and they can be beneficial in many cases.
However, don't forget that your equipment costs go up at more than double
per new customer compared to PtMP deployments where each
Unlesss your doing BGP/OSPF or something fancy, might want to check out
www.hotbrick.com ~$250. You can configure some nice little things(email
alert, universal client on LAN, services 'binding', desired
loadbalancing %, etc.)in a matter of minutes that would take
considerably longer on a
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service provider.
Not in the long term.
Yes, but there may be no money in wireless connectivity either, if you loose
all your subs to competitiors that offered voice, because consumers want
VOIP.
Or at least they think they do. Once they
I think the problem is most WISP's don't realize the extra support costs
for VoIP. More support calls, longer troubleshooting time, etc... so
really they are loosing money.
I don't believe there is any real money in it either... cell phones will
be the choice 5-10 years from now. VoIP is the
Theyre Cisco too
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
Tom,
I've been happy with my Lingo for 2 years...$19.95 a month and free calling
to Europe, too...which I do. I ported both my SBC (ATT) numbers. I
thought great service, cheap calling, decent quality, super features...
I convinced my brother in New York to convert. He's been struck by
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