Yeah, the waters in the routed vs. bridged argument are getting more and
more muddied all of the time.
How many wasted ip's are there in a routed network? Lots.
What are the benefits of a routed network? More control and better customer
isolation.
With the new ap's that block client to
This is not a good position, I would like to sell my operation @ the moment
that I assume I can get the best return for my investment OR as an exit
strategy.
Would you prefer to sell your customer base to a competitor or loose them
all together...
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet
All,
The title is kind of misleading as this is a Clearwire press release
more than what techies think of Wimax.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Techies like WiMAX's promise
Saturday, December 02, 2006
By Jim Harger
The Grand Rapids Press
GRAND RAPIDS -- Local techies say they're geeked about
I second Patrick comments,
As a growing wisp and looking to acquisition opportunities, the only way I
would buy a 802.11 based wisp was in the premise of tearing that equipment
out and putting some Canopy in place... for others it could be Trango or
Alvarion.
802.11 gear is good for starting
List
Is there a FCC search where I can imput a freq range and get all the
licensees from a particular State ? Including the Regional and National
Licensees that fall on that freq and state range ?
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax
I thought about the same things. Once I put canopy or trango in, I've gotta
replace
the whole damn radio once cable / dsl starts taking away my customers.
I'm in a cable / dsl area, and taking customers away from them, and basing
it on
Mikrotik. We're faster, not cheaper, and definitely
How can you do 5 meg per client on 900 MHz? You would have to have
several times that speed available per sector. Are you using the whole
900 MHz band on one sector? If yes then how do you stop
self-interference on adjacent sectors?
Scriv
Rick Smith wrote:
I thought about the same things.
Anyone service this town ?
Contact me offlist PLEASE.
JohnnyO
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using SR9's, with small cells - 1 - 2 milers. I have towers fed with 5 gig
Tik, and there's generally 20 meg available at any tower. We're pulling 5
gig connections down to a vantage point or two, then using an SR9 with an
omni from there to feed SR9 CPEs that have SR2 APs inside
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Hi Patrick,
What basis do you have for the claim that an Alvarion network will fetch a
higher price than a Canopy network? Some analysis of historical sell prices?
I'd be interested to see it.
Can't resist...
It's mainly due to the current Canopy gear trade-out promo
Buy an Alvarion network,
Is there a FCC search where I can imput a freq range and get all the
licensees from a particular State ? Including the Regional and National
Licensees
that fall on that freq and state range ?
Yes and no
1. All the information is publically available
2. As much as we'd wish it to be, it's not
Retaking the thread, all you guys doing Miktotik 900 mhz, why don't you try
OSBridge 900 Client ? it's Mikrotik compatible, it has built in Router and
you don't have to waste your time sourcing parts, dealing with diff
warranties and assembling it. Its $280 plus antenna
Gino A. Villarini
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On 12/2/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, at the moment just anecdotal.
So what how much more do Alvarion networks anecdotally go for? How was this
broken down - in terms of $$$/subscriber?
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There is a HUGE problem with Mikrotik and FCC certification. The
Mikrotik 532 puts out over 30db of constant noise in an area they
should not be (150MHz and 400MHz). It's still an issue, and has not been
fixed or even addressed by MT.
Travis
Microserv
Butch Evans wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006,
nice
Gino A. Villarini
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Subject: RE:
It's a problem with 100baseT Modulation,
Gino A. Villarini
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tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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is there somewhere where I could find documentation on this issue.
I'm just about to migrate many of my POPs from custom-wrap/soekris
boards to MT routerboards.
On 12/2/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a HUGE problem with Mikrotik and FCC certification. The
Mikrotik 532 puts
Many outside radios suffer from RF radiation over the Ethernet. I have
personally seen this on the YDI Etherant and the Trango FOX. This
problem is not specific to any one manufacturer. The cable acts as a
transmit antenna, carrying the clock signals from internally to the
outside. This can be
I haven't ever seen any documentation on the interference issue and I have
never had any complaints from any where we have our gear. We are co-located
on Parish towers, leased space on various towers and then have some of our
towers with space leased to other agencies. There are all types of RF on
I have only seen this type of interference three times. Twice with
Etherants and once with a Trango FOX. I have heard of other gear having
similar issues from other WISPs. It usually effects over-the-air
television or two-way radio communications located on the same tower as
the data radio. I
I would LOVE to buy some and test this solution... as I don't believe
that will fix the problem with the RB532's. The reason I say this is the
problem is actually WORSE when you use just the regular 48V power supply
(not PoE) and don't even plug an ethernet cable into the board at all.
The
Just to be clear. When I stated that I had heard that the RB532 was
causing some interference out of band I was not trying to discredit
Mikrotik or their products. I had read the thread below earlier. That
was what had led to my belief that this board was creating some out of
band interference
From my understanding, prices have varied significantly (not a surprise
right) and depends on many things like demographics covered, quality of
the network including physical infrastructure (e.g. mounting assets),
hardware infrastructure, NOC facilities, quality of contracts in place
(e.g.
Just a FYI, I would not be purchasing ANY of the equipment in most cases.
3-6 months of each customers monthly reoccurring, and I am taking over your
costs on the towers. That's about it. Now if your network has standards,
as mine has MTs for APs only, and such, or any other brand, I would look
We are picking up 2.4 gig CPE/Routers, QOS, NAT, and DHCP is all built into
the CPE, for what, 99 bucks! 150 something including a 19db antenna, where
the 99 is a 12 db antenna. BTW, both are B/G and 400mw output. Good for
here in MO with our dang HILLS!
Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+,
Here is the link Gino. I like the specialized searches on the right
best. You can enter as many or as few fields as you want. The data that
can be collected is excellent, and you can even map the results in color
(see the mapping link on top of the search result page.
Also, for spectrum like BRS
John,
The real issue is that Mikrotik is ignoring the problem. I have
personally emailed John Tully @ MT four or five times with no response.
I posted a message on their support forum back in July or August and it
was deleted. One of my partners posted a message on their support forum
(with
John,
The last I heard, it was an issue caused by running the boards on 48 vDC. I
don't think it is a problem if you are running them on lower voltages. I
have a partner WISP that was causing some problems on a fire department
frequency. It caused a clicking noise in their radio
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, JohnnyO wrote:
Travis - please show me PROOF of this - Lemme see the scans
you've performed by Spec-An and any other documented data you've
accumulated.
I've heard of this issue. I will be doing some testing in the next
2 weeks with some conclusive tests.
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Butch
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
but only always with the best and most sincere of intentions.
I don't doubt this at all.
Is that a better subject line Butch? :) Anyway, time for me to quit
the thread since it is not headed in any positive direction,
whether or not it is of my
Butch... here is what we found...
Non-PoE 48V input was the worst for noise at 100-150MHz and 400-450MHz.
PoE 48V was down a little, but only slightly.
Non-PoE 18V input got rid of most of the 100-150MHz, and dropped the
400-450MHz by 70%.
PoE 18V was down more, with 99% of the 100-150MHz gone
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Yeah, the waters in the routed vs. bridged argument are getting
more and more muddied all of the time.
How many wasted ip's are there in a routed network? Lots.
This is a big misconception. I don't have time to go into it here,
but the truth
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Travis Johnson wrote:
Non-PoE 48V input was the worst for noise at 100-150MHz and 400-450MHz.
PoE 48V was down a little, but only slightly.
Non-PoE 18V input got rid of most of the 100-150MHz, and dropped the
400-450MHz by 70%.
PoE 18V was down more, with 99% of the
John, we had an instance of the voltage regulator on the 532 causing
interference in the public safety band (154 MHz). We were able to change it
to 12V and the problem went away. 48V had a problem, and 12V fixed our
problem.
I have not heard anything official from MT on this issue.
The
Ferrite beads help but do not solve the issue
-Charles
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Each product has strength and weaknesses and what is best for a city
wisp probably won't cut it for some one in the boonies. We use to use
Trango but they moved there product closer to Moto and I for us that was
the wrong direction. We also have many hundred Wave rider customers and
even with
Please join me in welcoming a true friend of the ISP / WISP industry as
our newest Vendor Member, Frank Muto of FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Many
of you already know Frank as a tireless advocate of all that is good for
the WISP industry. He is joining WISPA to show his support and also to
take
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From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Yeah, the waters in the routed vs. bridged
Hello Marlon,
How do you figure a residential client (or any client for that matter) ties
up three IPs? I can see four IPs (/30) or simply one IP out of a larger
subnet dedicated to the sector.
We typically assign a /29, /28 or /27 to a Trango 60* sector and assign one
public IP to each CPE
In a lab yes. In my noise floor, real throughout is no where close to that.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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First, we were talking 900 not 5.8. VL isn't going to go through 2 miles of
trees. But your math is not wrong.
Anywhere one anticipates that they can get 25 subecribers from a cell site,
VL is likely the preferred choice.
The problem is that there are many areas where 25 clients off an AP will
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