RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mac Dearman
I have an 80' Rohn 25G tower on top of a 110' concrete grain elevator. This elevators power is giving me fits as they are flipping breakers on and off as they are in full swing with all the corn coming in right now out of the fields. I do have everything on UPS's, but need to move up the ranks

RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Gino Villarini
What gear do you need to power on ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To:

RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mac Dearman
Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and even one Proxim Radio (48vdc) in place there. Thanks, Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to have a power source (be it a 120 vAC charger, solar cells, wind turbine, etc.)

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Scott Reed
I haven't tried them yet, but a neighbor that does lots of SCADA work likes the MeanWell AD-15xx series power supplies, battery chargers. Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as Trango Tlink 10's (24vdc)and

RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mac Dearman
Go to www.raleybros.com (about 10 miles from my home) when the home page comes up just keep refreshing your browser to change the pics displayed. All of the elevators are already running over, the temporary ground storage bins are full and now all the elevators around here are just dumping it on

Re: [WISPA] Working with other WISPs

2007-08-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Build it first. Call them the day before you turn it on. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
From the National Corn Growers Association: About 8 percent of the weight in a box of corn flakes is corn. Less than 5 percent of the purchase price reflects the corn price. The remainder of the cost is in packaging and advertising. From the Ohio Corn Growers: Corn growers in Ohio

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Here in Illinois, we won't be harvesting our corn for another 2 months. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007

[WISPA] Tough analysis from BusinessWeek on MuniWi-Fi: Why Wi-Fi Networks Are Floundering

2007-08-15 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
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Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread George Rogato
And I thought *ALL* the corn came from Iowa. :) George Mike Hammett wrote: Wow, you learn something every day. What I've learned today is that down south harvests corn significantly earlier than we do in the corn belt. ;-) What I've wanted to do, but have been so far unable to do is to

Re: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Put a small parachute (remember the ones you made from a napkin as a kid???) tie that to a string. Hook a vacuum to the other end of the conduit. Count to 10, check for string :-). Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Carl A jeptha
Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Most of the gear is(24 to 48vdc) MikroTik, but there are some Tranzeo TR5A (18vdc)backhaul radios as well as

RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread chris cooper
When they run -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A jeptha Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Tranzeo's can run at 24volts You have a Good Day now, Carl A

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
haha, Iowa does produce the most, but just barely ahead of Illinois. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:47

Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Time George, time. I can do a connector, perfectly, every time, in 1/4th of the time that it takes the old way. And I NEVER have to redo them. Yeah it sucks paying $.50 for a connector, but my time and my sanity are worth it! And ONE call back because of a flaky connector covers my

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread John Valenti
Mac, I pulled some notes from a thread on the StarOS forums, you might want to go read the whole thing if this sounds interesting: === (gleaned from Solar Power thread on StarOS forum started 6/18/2006 by Ick) Should power at

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Ireton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions Here is my question: Do they make a device that has multiple DC power output

Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-15 Thread Matt
We have had a number of EZ connectors fail. Most/all the ones I saw fail were traced back to a EZ crimper that when replaced went away. Not all the pins would sink. An installer said we also had a bad run of EZ connectors once. There not perfect and are certainly pricey. There about all we use

RE: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-15 Thread Ralph
The Ezs are great when up on a tower or in a big hurry. You are just about 100% sure its done right. The cable tester is merely an exercise. Too bad they don't have a shielded one. BTW- I looked up the patent. Its assigned to Paladin tools, the only ones who also make the crimper. I spoke to

RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Ralph
Even more OT- For those of us down here in Peanut country... What the holy heck is a grain leg? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power

Re: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
http://apgrainsystems.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC power suggestions

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Blair Davis
Sounds cheap to me. Our rate is $60 per hour + travel time at $30 per hour, and we are quite rural. Mike Hammett wrote: Does this sound fair to all parties? My normal rate is $40/hour, with $80/hour for emergencies. I charge $150/month to manage a business's network. This includes 3

[WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Does this sound fair to all parties? My normal rate is $40/hour, with $80/hour for emergencies. I charge $150/month to manage a business's network. This includes 3 hours of support. I also will VPN into the network and ensure that operating systems, anti-virus, etc. are updated, which does

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Clint Ricker
I don't see any possible way that you're making any sort of actual profit on this (or even really breaking even) at this rate, unless you've got some redicuously cheap labor Consider this... If you're doing $40 an hour, and you had a full time person billing 100% of the time (ie 168 hours per

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
We are the cheapest guy in town at $90/hour for Onsite. I guess it depends on location. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15,

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread George Rogato
Depends upon your market and what you can get away with and who you want to target. Mike Hammett wrote: Does this sound fair to all parties? My normal rate is $40/hour, with $80/hour for emergencies. I charge $150/month to manage a business's network. This includes 3 hours of support.

Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-15 Thread George Rogato
Funny, I can do them both in about the same time. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Time George, time. I can do a connector, perfectly, every time, in 1/4th of the time that it takes the old way. And I NEVER have to redo them. Yeah it sucks paying $.50 for a connector, but my

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Currently it is only myself, so I pocket 100% of it. I'll expand upon my thoughts not to defend my price, but to say where I'm coming from in an attempt to figure out if my current system won't scale or if everyone else is just screwing their customers. That said, I don't see how all of

[WISPA] Wholesale WiMAX

2007-08-15 Thread W.D.McKinney
I saw this post and thought wow, a lot of money in the build-out side for this. http://www.towerstream.com/content.asp?serviceareas Then I read this: http://www.dailywireless.org/2007/08/15/towerstream-to-wholesale-mobile-wimax/ So if you want see BreezeMAX in action here you go. Of course you

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Martha Huizenga
It really does depend on your market. If you can get an office for $250 a month, then your prices are probably in line with your market. I couldn't get a closet for that price! :-) Mike Hammett wrote: Currently it is only myself, so I pocket 100% of it. I'll expand upon my thoughts not to

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I have a conference room, three offices, two closets, a waiting room, a general purpose room, and another room with the receptionist station for the waiting room. I believe its around 900 sq. ft. I'm getting two more storage rooms now for another $50/month. That adds another 250 - 350 sq.

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Matt Liotta
Remember, that it has been widely shown that most small businesses attempt to use a cost plus model for pricing. Unfortunately, the cost plus model while making sense on paper tends to not work out in the long run. It is far better to price according to what the market will accept and make

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Martha Huizenga
Mike, We charge $80 an hour regardless of residential or business. Now we are in the city (DC), but I think that $40 an hour for a business and $150 a month is quite a good deal. Sometimes we'll do projects at a flat rate price, but we always consider the amount of time we think it will take

RE: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
College just trains you to expect more than what you're really worth. Maybe you didn't LISTEN good enough in college! If you were listening, you would have heard what you should actually EXPECT was right on. If you are as good and knowledgeable as you state, then you are not charging what you

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
My family is fairly poor, so the state and feds picked most of it up. I should obtain the return on YOUR investment. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Conduits

2007-08-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Make sure you have a filter BEFORE the fan providing suction to the vacuum! String+motor axle=mess! ryan On Aug 15, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Put a small parachute (remember the ones you made from a napkin as a kid???) tie that to a string. Hook a vacuum

RE: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Mike, if you are to get a return on MY investment, don't short-change me! I'd rather you get the most return on MY investment that you can than to see it wasted on those that are not willing to offer me ANY return -- only to put their hand out for more... :( Go get em'. Make me proud! Raise

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Totally random notes: My rate is $70 an hour _if_ the customer signs up for 1 year of service with me @ 1/2 hour per machine per month. The customer likes this because they know how much they are paying a month, every month. Basically they get an IT department looking out for them without

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I already did. ;-) I forgot the entire rate structure before... $35/hour in shop, $50/hour on site, $90/hour emergency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
errr, those rates are the new ones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managed IT

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Japhy Bartlett
Mike - I'm in a sort of backwatery place with rent similar to what you're quoting, so I'll just throw this in: If you're just getting started, word of mouth and reputation is very valuable to you - so if you can keep your prices low and give good quality, those people will talk about you. You

Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers

2007-08-15 Thread Ryan Langseth
Can these be easily used with gloves on? If so, I will probably look at getting some of these and a couple of the crimpers for winter, last winter we had to replace a link in -20 F with a nasty wind we were barely able to get it done in the cold. Ryan On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:52 PM, George

[WISPA] WHITE SPACE

2007-08-15 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
According to this reporter at the Wash Post 30 minutes ago, we have it ? http://tinyurl.com/2e6mzo Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread Clint Ricker
Just a few pointers about calculating costs and making profit... a lot of these are learned the hard way by most people starting a business... 1. Employees are expensive. Employer taxes add on about 15% to the cost of employing someone, after all is said and done...so, that $42k per year personl

Re: [WISPA] Managed IT Service

2007-08-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Oh! and remember, in those urban areas the Geek Squad is there to steal your porn... er.. help you with your computer problems.. http://www.geeksquad.com/pricing/ Look at this pricing, figure out how long it takes for you to do something on this list and upsell the client on something they