Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread reader
It's ok. You don't know my truck. I do. I've put fast ricers away on the street. And they never try again. That perfectly aimed exhaust teaches :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To:

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread Brad Belton
Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat! grin Just ribb'n ya Mark. Now back to our regular programming... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I am looking for a cost effective vehicle. Anything heavy will do the job of teaching ricers a lesson. Like an H1. On 2/3/09, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Correct, only going off of your statement of 16sec (chuckle) and putting away a couple Civics. That truly must be one fast Goat!

[WISPA] 4.7 GHz

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone heard anything about the 4.7 (4.4 - 5.0) GHz band? I've heard that it might be made available for PtP or possibly even PtMP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I got this in an email from Radio Waves. I took the enterprise deployments part to be something we could grab. Update on the 4.7 GHz Band The 4.4 - 5.0 GHz band continues to see lots of activity. Applications in the 4.7 GHz band are across the board from LMR (land mobile two-way radio)

[WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Members] Broadband Stimulus Package - Contact yourCongressmen

2009-02-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
My congressman (actually woman) voted no on the stimulus package. I've known her for years so I felt OK being more personal than I normally would. I thought it important to tell her that I LIKED her vote. Info on how to contact your representatives is listed below Hi Cathy, I just

Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-02-03 Thread sales
Out of curiosity. What is the cost to the FCC for a 10 year 38 ghz or an 18ghz license? Thanks, John Buwa WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] Letter to my senators

2009-02-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, Here is the letter that I sent to my senators this am: Dear Senator Cantwell, Please vote no on the stimulus bill. As written this bill seems set to mainly put pork barrel money into the hands of the large companies who's misuse of investment funds clearly led to the

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread George Rogato
Thats a hard one Josh, cost effective. I've been driving rigs since I got out of trade school in 76', sometimes being cheap on the front end is a mistake, unless you have a talent of finding killer deals by chance. For me, I enjoyed the last van I drove, it was a 98 ford long van and I went

Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-02-03 Thread Brad Belton
38GHz is typically leased from a third party. 18GHz is leased directly from the FCC. Typically 38GHz is more expensive over the course of ten years as opposed to 18GHz, 23GHz, 11GHz 6GHz, etc from the FCC. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a million squaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
So much for wisps only being in rural areas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd imagine that the rural ones are more likely to fear posting their coverage areas. Silly WISPs. ;-) The guys on DSL Reports seem less likely to provide information as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-02-03 Thread 3-dB Networks
Generally 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, and 23GHz will cost somewhere in the range of $3k to license depending on how you go about it. Best course of action is to always have the company your buying the gear from do the licensing work... it will usually be cheaper and prevent mistakes. If your doing

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Members] Broadband Stimulus Package - ContactyourCongressmen

2009-02-03 Thread reader
thanks Marlon. I read a rumor about two days ago that said the Senate might not pass, as there's at least a couple Democrats who are rather uneasy with all the spending and might filibuster it. Who knows where that goes. I read somewhere that if we took the bailout money, and stimulus money

[WISPA] FPL

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone worked with Florida Power and Light? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Letter to my senators

2009-02-03 Thread Patrick Leary
Marlon, I think it would have more impact if you started it with the following: As a small business owner... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509)

Re: [WISPA] Redundant / Alternate Backhauls

2009-02-03 Thread Mark Nash
What about OLSR instead of OSPF? We're considering using this. Anyone using OLSR and using alternate backhauls? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Mark Nash

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread reader
Well, my Caravans both were under $500 and I've gotten a lot of miles for that. I've put perhaps $500 total into repairing them in the last two years, as well. Of course, I do my own mechanic work. I'm better than almost any shop you can find, so why would I pay for inferior work? I guess

[WISPA] Neat site..

2009-02-03 Thread Randy Cosby
Cool use of google maps for doing radio link calculations. The interface is clunky, but best I've seen so far online. http://members.chello.at/stephen.joung/indexDistanceElevation.html -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com

Re: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz

2009-02-03 Thread lakeland
4.5 to 4.9 is federal govt in US Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:18:05 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 4.7 GHz Has anyone heard anything about the 4.7 (4.4 - 5.0)

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half a millionsquaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Mike, I don't post to DSL Reports, do those users even know about this effort? Or isp-wireless for that matter? Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:48 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I posted to DSLR once. I haven't posted on ISP-Wireless in probably 6 years... since I found out about Part-15. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Sent:

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Brian Webster
Rick, I did post to DSL reports yesterday with an update today. I haven't ever been on the isp-wireless list. If someone wants to post there I'd be happy to write something up. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988

[WISPA] WPA issues with High Gain Antennas

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
If anyone is having WPA issues with High Gain Antennas connected to Mikrotik, let me know. The vendor wants to get everyone pooled together to solve this. The problem we're experiencing is: 18:01:39 wireless,info 00:18:D2:00:36:2...@lou Faivre - East: disconnected, group key exchange timeout

[WISPA] Lobbying Update February 3, 2008

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Harnish
I thought I would take a few minutes and update everyone on the status of the work that has been done throughout the weekend and last few days. The Board has hired Rini-Coran to represent WISPA through this Broadband Stimulus Legislation and Rulemaking time period, which may be one month or

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Money is so tight and loans are out of the question for such a young company. I do agree getting new or near new vehicle is the best option to avoid being truckless or vanless. I think for this upcoming week we'll just find some junker and make sure it at least runs so have a spare vehicle but

Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Wu
Generally 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, and 23GHz will cost somewhere in the range of $3k to license depending on how you go about it. Best course of action is to always have the company your buying the gear from do the licensing work... it will usually be cheaper and prevent mistakes. Wow...$3k?

[WISPA] Lost routes...

2009-02-03 Thread Mark McElvy
I am running 5 MT AP's, 2 are 3.x and 3 are 2.9.50, all are running OSPF and PPPoE. Clients are mostly Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 with a few Ubiquity NS2. On only ONE of the 2.9 AP's, I randomly loose the route to the customer. The log will show a PPPoE disconnect, the route will go away, but the PPPoE

Re: [WISPA] Neat site..

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
That is an amazing website! I would like to see it for 5.8, though =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Randy

Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles covered!

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Write it up, I can post there. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over halfa millionsquaremiles

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread jp
Dodge Caravans are indeed good under-rated vehicles. We used to have one and kept it till the automatic transmission broke, which is apparently inevitable. Our had racks inside, roof rack, all white, big logo, etc... The 4cyl and small-v6 ones are quite efficient. FWD with snow tires are

Re: [WISPA] BS....was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Wu
38GHz is typically leased from a third party. 18GHz is leased directly from the FCC. Typically 38GHz is more expensive over the course of ten years as opposed to 18GHz, 23GHz, 11GHz 6GHz, etc from the FCC. Adding onto Brad's point -- 38 GHz falls under owned spectrum (stuff that's been

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread John Thomas
It may be worthwhile to consider a Dodge/Mercedes/Freightliner Sprinter Van. The drawback is that they have a high roof line, but they do get 20 + mpg in motorhome trim, and 25-30 mpg bare. They are Diesel and the engines are supposed to be good for 400,000 - 500,000 miles. John George

Re: [WISPA] National Map Update - 579,154 square miles covered

2009-02-03 Thread John Thomas
Brian, I entered 2400 Camino Ramon San Ramon CA and got part of circles in the coverage area. I will assume that is NextWeb/Covadwireless's footprint. They have a coverage map at http://www.covadwireless.com/network-coverage-maps.html#sanfrancisco if that helps. John Brian Webster wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-03 Thread George Rogato
I bought a ford and they financed it. No interest. I'm pretty certain they are working deals to get them sold. Supposedly the truck I bought had a sticker and is worth 29k and I got it for 23k. And some of that money we all have been talking about:

[WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of the bolts and plates but the PoEs are in short supply. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, we have been using them for 3-4 years. They work great. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Is it save to use the PacWireless 24v reverse units for the Trango 5800/5830/900 APs and SUs? I used to order Trango PoEs along side the radio, along with the mounting bolts/plates. We have

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Somehow I just knew you would be the one to answer this =) Thank you very much!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:25

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10 packs. We prefer to stay with the Trango ones. Yes, the Pac 24V reverse units are compatible with the Trangos. (PS, all the Trangos come with 24v PowerSupply now, even though Foxes used to come with 20V) There is one benefit to the Pac ones,

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, Are the newest Trango PoE units also grounded like the Pac units (with the power cord)? We have fixed many customers that kept blowing ethernet ports on routers by switching to the Pac PoE units. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Trango factory POE are very inexpensive now in 10

Re: [WISPA] Trango PoEs

2009-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
As I only go on installs on a needed basis (when someone needs a hand, someone is learning, etc) I don't think of those picky things - but I do HATE wall warts versus the nice NEMA5-15 and grounding can never be a bad thing! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] Letter to the Ones!

2009-02-03 Thread Scottie Arnett
-- Original Message -- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@onlyinternet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:23:10 -0500 Write it up, I can post there. Individuals that do have access to landline or cable that would