Technically speaking? What about politics? : - )
Greg
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't believe there is an official answer. I believe professional
simply means someone that knows their rear from a hole in the ground.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
roflol
Now THAT's funny!
So long and thanks for all the fish!
marlon
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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
I am told it is the fluoride in the water.
What is it that blocks so many people's minds from objectively evaluating
the performance of government just as they would wireless equipment, an
anti-virus, a car, a can opener, or even safety gear? It's some kind of
religion?Maybe?
The universal answer to all questions.
I had all but forgotten it... Thanks!
now, if I could just remember
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:42 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
There's a guy started a small network in an area I serve, but quite distant
from me, and he's wanting to get out.
He offered to sell me his customers and his network, and then finally he
quoted me a price for his network.Not the customers but just the
network and the customer owns his own
Well at $49.95 monthly your ROI is 10monthswill he finance out of
income?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] This comes up again
If you're buying the customers what you should look at is the revenue. At
$41.67/mo/customer (or $500/customer) buyout seems very steep.
If he's looking to get out and has no other options I am certain you can
lower that price. Also express that a network of Ubnt, lots of private
IPs, and a
At 50/mo an ROI of 10 months you would need 90%+ profit. If the current
owner is getting that I don't think he'd be wanting out.
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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assuming a monthly of $40 or so it doesn't seem out of line...
A good starting point, IMHO is 1x yearly revenue.
MDK wrote:
There's a guy started a small network in an area I serve, but quite distant
from me, and he's wanting to get out.
He offered to sell me his customers and his
10 months only if the $49.95 is pure profit. Presumably the ROI is really more
like 40 months assuming you keep the customer for that long. That or I'm having
a brain melt-down and confusing something.
There was just recently (in the past week or so) a long discussion of
valuations on the
$500/customer doesn't seem that bad. Someone tried to get me to pay
$1500/customer for a network that needed a lot of work.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent:
Chuck of ShelbyBB was able to get rid of the Kentucky one. As far as I know
every other state has yet to build the immunity to the disease.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Chuck of ShelbyBB
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:40, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote:
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
The first two that come up
Last year the WISPA Board went through an E X T E N S I V E review and
discussion about Connected Nation. CN wanted WISPA to "join" which
would have meant that they co-opt us. The Board's conclusion was "Bad
for WISPA. CN is Telco tool".
Of course, CN didn't go away. They kept on
Do they make a Visine for that?
On 12/16/09 2:55 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
Last year the WISPA Board went through an E X T E N S I V E review and
discussion about Connected Nation. CN wanted WISPA to join which would have
meant that they co-opt us. The Board's conclusion was Bad
Hello,
We are in the same state and chose not to give them the data either.
Not only would it take us a good while to get the data they wanted we did
not feel good about the setup. Until the state makes us or CN changes we
will not be giving them any info.
Thanks
-Original
Bad for us. They pushed WildBlue and HughesNet over us because
WB/Hughes paid them $10k to be a partner. They also provided the
mapping for Bellsouth/ATT and Insight (cable co) and identified the
areas that they should serve. In my guestimate, it hurt us to the tune
of 50-150 customers.
The way connected nation has to abide by the broadband mapping grant rules,
is quite different from the way they have operated on past projects. The
recent threads about them were based on the fact that they appear to have a
clueless person using Radio Mobile to generate WISP coverage maps. One
I submitted my information to them, actually exports of RM. Gerard
introduced him to RM, but didn't train him by any means. We may have
benefited from people searching for our service from them, but they have
long been gone in our area and their loss of coverage maps has had no
impact on new
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 14:40 -0500, Shaddi Hasan wrote:
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
THis was discussed primarily on the
I certainly was not expecting a Thanks for all the fish.
You the man!
Thanks, Marlon!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
I read an interesting thing the other day concerning that. As proof that
you can use numbers to come to any conclusion that you desire, some smart
guy worked out some equation with the total mass of the universe (how in the
heck can anyone even calculate that?) and he comes up with an answer of
If he's a small network you could probably install in the same area for your
100 bucks per. He wants out anyhow.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:20 PM
To: 'WISPA
We have them here in Ohio. I'm back and forth on it. On one hand, the one
time I tried asking for some info from them they wanted to charge me some
consulting fee and so a spectrum analysis of the area had nothing to do with
what I was asking so I shut them out. Then I started going to the
I'm an idiot.
Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon. 300 foot tower. Drive
to the tower, put on the harness and all the other crap, grab the hat, all
good. No gloves. Figures. Where are the gloves? The NEW gloves? Home.
All I had was a thin pair of leather work gloves. Did
Really glad you're OK! I have never been able to keep my fingers
decent - they freeze at 50!
On 12/16/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I'm an idiot.
Had to climb to the top of a tower this afternoon. 300 foot tower. Drive
to the tower, put on the harness and all the
Mine seem to freeze at approximately... oh 28 degrees while holding
onto a steel ladder in a 17mph wind, at least that's my best estimation.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday,
Anyone have the Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 in stock?
Matt
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You can check with CTI, I talked to them Monday and they had a few but had
to buy 4 or 5 to get them.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
Then you should be thankful you're that much ahead :)
I think it was two years ago when I came down and hands warmed up
(they were blue as usual) I was in so much pain I was tearing felt
like throwing up. Hated that.
On 12/16/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Mine seem to
You guys are missing the point. Before the NTIA mapping grants were awarded,
there were no specific rules as to how the mapping was to be done and how
the data was supposed to be available and in what form. Now with these
broadband mapping grants there is a national standard that they ALL
Oh, and I was giving you credit for quoting from Hitchikers Guide to
the Galaxy, where 42 was the answer to the Universal Question.
mg
At 04:11 PM 12/16/2009, you wrote:
I read an interesting thing the other day concerning that. As proof that
you can use numbers to come to any conclusion that
Then again there is that part about a 120* sector and the thinking that each
cpe is in fact acting like a ptp system, since the ap only talks to one cpe at
a time.
Just to throw another log on the fire.
The 120* part comes from what I understood from someone talking about this type
of
Last weeks shipment is all gone of the NSM5's but another container is
following closely behind hopefully should have it in next week.
/ Eje
WISP-Router, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Don't forget the towel..
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
The universal answer to
Any idea if you have antennas on that shipment, the 16-120s in particular
Scott Piehn
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From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:27 PM
Yepp that is the shipment with the antennas. I thought the antennas was on
the shipment we were to receive last week but it's on the shipment that is
still on its way hopefully should be in no later than next week because we
want to ship as many out we can before we close for inventory between
You will have 1 container less to count if the shipment comes in at
the right time! :)
ryan
On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
Yepp that is the shipment with the antennas. I thought the antennas
was on
the shipment we were to receive last week but it's on the shipment
No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your response
reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number.
Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the meaning
of life, the universe and everything. Just in case you missed that one.
(Has
I'm not sure I've ever posted to the list here before. But I have to chime
in on this. While New Era Broadband is a fledgling in the WISP arena, we
owe our existence to Connect Ohio, especially their wireless guys Chip Spann
and Layne Wagner. I've read everything everyone has said about CN and
Wear latex gloves. Keeps the wind off your fingers and actually makes a BIG
difference.
When I climb, I wear latex and then some brand they sell at Home Depot as
Handyman gloves with velcro, but I got them from Tessco and they're
sticky on the palms. They were like $40.
When I take the other
ROFL!! No, I just carry a large 16oz bottle of Germ-X (the one with the
pump) in my front pocket.
Makes it easy to squirt. In fact, one in each pocket. Right hand, left
hand. ROFLMAO
Anyway... a guy that did our climbing 10 years ago wore them while climbing
80' during a snowstorm and wind.
Eoip you mean? :)
On 12/17/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Anyone here ever figure out a way to tunnel with a UBNT device?
Bob-
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Doh! Thats it! I misread the settings for burst on the Advanced Page.
Ubiquiti actually mixed nomenclature by using both Kbps and KBps! -RickG
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Yep, I saw the same thing. I just let it go, haven't had time to figure
I would sure appreciate the Tessco SKU/name/model/etc something to reference
to to see what it looks like and try them out.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert
Such revelations can be most helpful in guiding future actions.
however, public admissions of said revelations can be, err... Well, I'll
just pretend I never read it and you pretend you never said it...
Hey, anyone read the bit in the news... about the job you should be EVER so
grateful you
Yep
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] EiOP
Eoip you mean? :)
On 12/17/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Yep, you're right. I've had mine set too high as well.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti units
Doh! Thats it! I
Most of the time I don't need to utter a single word and still I'm able to
announce same.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm an
AirOS doesn't have the feature AFAIK. I'd ask in the Ubnt forums for
the best answer.
On 12/17/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Yep
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday,
Yeah, been down that route. Official answer from UBNT is no EoIP, no VPN,
etc. Seems likes an odd thing to be leaving out. Only logical advice was
to flash with third party firmware but if that was the only option I'd
rather just put in a 411ah or 433 MT board. But then I'd have to turn off
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