[WISPA] Mexican Cartels Enslave Engineers to Build Radio Network

2012-11-02 Thread Jack Unger
Heads up! Be careful out there! *** The Mexican military is trying to dismantle an extensive network of radio antennas built and

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Tom yes I am talking about the outdoor shielded cable the connectors are the ubiquiti one but it seems that the cables are taking water from some hole in the cable or something like that Thanks to all for the answers Are you talking about their outdoor shielded cable? If so, we've been

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Josh yes we used the green cables then we noticed it changed to a new color I will try to contact ubiquiti, but the cables are installed around the places so I really don't know how to remember if they are green or whatever they are By the way, it's quite annoying that we get the devices

[WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Gaylord
Can anyone help me out? We are in the process of deciding which company to use for 6 licensed links. Both are similar in price/performance. Trango has more tx power and rx sensitivity, thus their antennas are smaller, which is a plus. I would like to know if anyone has any experiences with

Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

2012-11-02 Thread Patrick Leary
If you are speaking about backhaul, I might tend to agree Mike. But if PMP, which is what 4.9GHz is primarily for (PTP is literally considered a secondary service in 4.9 is only supposedly approved for temp service), then 4.9 GHz is the only option for high capacity PMP for public safety

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
I have 3 SAF links...operating just fine. I know of others that have a lot of Trango links...operating just fine. I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Gaylord wi...@torchlake.com wrote: Can anyone help me out? We are in the

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Having more than 20+ links on both manufactures here is my input: SAF Pluses Great UI Interface, simultaneous link config changes from 1 end/polarity indicator Lightweight Low Power consumption Great mount No Feature keys 5 years warranty SAF Minuses Lower Tx power Custom Antenna - ODU

Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

2012-11-02 Thread Patrick Leary
With modern gear such as our 2x2 Extreme, creating PMP coverage has never been better for both NLOS challenges and certainly makes LOS connections easier than ever, wouldn't you say? Not sure you mean by not the LOS advantage of normal installs. What in 4.9 disadvantages LOS connections?

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Feature key is NOT required on Trango for more power. All the radios are at full power regardless of the license key. Travis On 11/2/2012 6:53 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Having more than 20+ links on both manufactures here is my input: SAF Pluses Great UI Interface, simultaneous link config

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Gino Villarini
I beg to differ, they have a new higher power option that requires a license key. Its only compatible with latest apex plus radios Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

2012-11-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I meant vs. the traditional WISP fixed CPE with a (relatively) high installation height vs. a squad car, fire truck, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary patrick.le...@alvarion.com To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
I'm curious about that as well... I know weight is a big thing for Gino due to shipping... but I'm not sure I would be willing to give up the higher output and better receive levels for a couple extra pounds. Travis On 11/2/2012 7:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Why are you doing all new links

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't really care about weight either (though that does tend to show a better product in ATX power supplies). I am concerned about the wattage consumption and price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:00

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I don't understand, SAF has a standard power version and a high power version. Cost difference isn't much. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] MikroTik PCQ and Queue Tree

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Bowsher
Anyone have experience with PCQ and Queue Tree in MikroTik I am trying to get away from simple queues and I am a little confused on how to actually accomplish the shaping of the traffic that I want to achieve. If anyone has knowledge in this I will fully explain what I have done and what I want

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik PCQ and Queue Tree

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
PCQ and queue tree are two different things. What is it you're trying to do? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.netwrote: Anyone have experience with PCQ and Queue

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with their standard power... but when you increase to High Power then it's more expensive. And SAF's 5 year warranty is very cool... the bigger question with this type of radio is how quickly can they repair/replace the unit? I

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Gaylord
That is where I am as well. Just stay working is the reason I am moving my most important ptp links to licensed. I have done the Ubnt and Mikrotik thing for backhauls and am sick of it. I want reliability, thus licensed. Thanks for all the great info. It is helping greatly. For those

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd rather the radio just stay working... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with their standard

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Owen
At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've had to do an RMA with SAF due to a Lightning Event. Unfortunately, the radio has to go to Latvia for repairs. The turn around was about 2 weeks. I have also done an advanced replacement RMA that took 2 days. Now, we buy extra units instead of advanced replacement. Regards, Chuck On

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Travis Johnson
HI, I have spoken to several other WISP's and when they actually compare the SAME radio from SAF to Trango (same power, same license keys, same dishes, etc.) then Trango is 99% of the time less expensive. Yes, it only has a 2 year warranty compared to 5 years, but that's the only difference.

Re: [WISPA] CM9 Rx blocking problem?

2012-11-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
LOL Love those palm trees! I used to live there, don't envy you a bit. grin I normally turn my radios way down anyway. With the sensitivity of today's radios there's no need for hot links. 30 to 35dB of s/n is, in my not so humble opinion way too much. That's well within the range of

[WISPA] Netsapiens

2012-11-02 Thread Jeremie Chism
If anyone out there is using this solution, please send me an email, on list or off, about your experience. Looking into other solutions. Sent from my iPhone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread John Seaman
Hi all, I'll chime in here to clarify the point regarding TX Power. Trango offers high power as a standard feature, and even higher power as an optional key. The Extra high power feature and I should also point out that we also now support adaptive power control, meaning that as ACM kicks in to

Re: [WISPA] CM9 Rx blocking problem?

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Sharples
Hmm... I don't think the board is hung because it runs the code fine during the events, with no dmesg errors from the dirvers. Another AP won't work here (at least not easily) because this system has loads of custom code and scripts for our video surveillance apps. We are working to port those

Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

2012-11-02 Thread Patrick Leary
Our new COMPACT is a true SDR radio using FPGAs. But that only allows for changes in protocols like from WiMAX to LTE. The actual RF side is another matter. Cell phones do not have one radio, but rather a dozen or so. You'll not find a SDR that tunes for TX/RX across a huge swath of spectrum.

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the cable in short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was used as those sites fail. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Steve Barnes
I had my fist 3 cable failures this week. Blown radios and POE's. I know that I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable that will fail in a year. I think I will just have them replace the radios and go one with Life. Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes

[WISPA] MikroTik PCQ and Queue Tree

2012-11-02 Thread Josh Bowsher
Anyone have experience with PCQ and Queue Tree in MikroTik I am trying to get away from simple queues and I am a little confused on how to actually accomplish the shaping of the traffic that I want to achieve. If anyone has knowledge in this I will fully explain what I have done and what I want

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Sullivan
We've used a few Trango, no SAF, and one Dragonwave. We had one of the Trango units recieve a near-lightning strike, which completely killed it. We sent it in, and they fixed it for $600, (out of warranty). We put it back up, and it failed about six months later. We sent it in, and we had it

Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Owen
Yikes, That doesn't sound good from DragonWave's perspective. At $5k, that is nearly the cost for the entire radio path, (not counting antennas, PONE, etc) Can't imagine why they would charge such a price. Were you working directly with DragonWave or through a vendor? We do most of our

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik PCQ and Queue Tree

2012-11-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 09:12 -0500, Josh Bowsher wrote: Anyone have experience with PCQ and Queue Tree in MikroTik I am trying to get away from simple queues and I am a little confused on how to actually accomplish the shaping of the traffic that I want to achieve. If anyone has knowledge in

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik PCQ and Queue Tree

2012-11-02 Thread aajayiobe
Please let me know what you come up with. //BR Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe +234(0)8023258027 -Original Message- From: Josh Bowsher jbows...@midwaynet.net Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:01:29 To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)wireless@wispa.org;

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Sharples
Steve do you know specifically what failed yet? Did random holes just appear in the sheath? Is yours the black or green? I'm worried because we've been recommending this shielded cable to all our customers esp. in lighting-prone areas like OK. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Steve

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

2012-11-02 Thread Chris Fabien
I just saw our first failure a couple weeks ago, it was consistent with photos I've seen of other ubnt toughcable failures. The jacket has turned from the original grey color to a translucent green, and hairline cracks then develop across the diameter of the cable. Almost like the plastic has