From the very limited reading I did yesterday, there seems to be another
problem with this route. Doesn't the nstream option require two radio cards
at both ap and cpe?
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Only Nstream2 needs 2 cards at each end.
Nstream used 1 card at each end.
Brett Hays wrote:
From the very limited reading I did yesterday, there seems to be another
problem with this route. Doesn't the nstream option require two radio
cards at both ap and cpe?
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With client shots that are upto 15 miles long, 802.11b doesn't seem to
hold up. That is why we went to Karlnet in the first place...
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
And you are totally against running purely 802.11? wi-fi? It would be
pretty easy/cheap if that was an option.
marlon
- Ori
What Trango units attach to my existing antennas? I thought Trango used
integrated antennas...
Tom DeReggi wrote:
My advise, is to buy Trango, and start replacing one of your cells
sites, and then the pulled units you can then use at your turbo cell
sites.
Tom DeReggi
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Good Morning, WISPA.
We have witnessed a decrease in five (5) TrangoLink10 5.8 GHz
PtPs Received Signal Levels overnight. These links are deployed in
various geographic locations with an average 12 miles of separation between tower
sites. These links have been active for at least a ye
I like Tom's idea. Just replace one site, with other gear. Trango,
802.11 (if it's a site with no 15 mile shots) And take the old CPEs
down and re use them as you hook up people to the other Karlnet sites.
I think this is the least disruptive. You would be only messing with
one site.
An
I've heard of weird stuff when Air Force One comes to town. Or is
there and Ham events going on?
Jeff Mabry wrote:
Good Morning, WISPA.
We have witnessed a
decrease in five (5) TrangoLink10 5.8 GHz
PtPs Received Signal Levels overnight. These links are deployed in
variou
That's why I use Star-os, so that I could extend
the timing limitations... Again, to get to 15 or more
miles.
I have several customers beyond the limits of
normal "wifi", being 18, 16, 14,. etc miles from the AP.
I expect to have a few over time that go close to
30 miles.
North Eas
We had some Trango weirdness overnight also. We had 3 different links go
down at different times overnight but I do not have any specifics of why
at this time. Where were you seeing this trouble?
Scriv
Jeff Mabry wrote:
Good Morning, WISPA.
We have witnessed a decrease in five (5) TrangoLin
I had two links with problems as well. I had to change frequencies on them,
but margins are still slimmer than usual. I have seen this occur several
times this summer. I haven't been able to pinpoint the problem yet.
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Hello Brian,
It's thermal related I'm betting. We lost a link last night briefly.
Signal levels drop as the thermal layer changes.
Someone drag Mike Cowan over here and he will explain why the midwest
is known for this.
Barry
Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 10:46:48 AM, you wrote:
BR> I've heard
John - The links are about 60 miles due west of your location.
Jeff
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We had some
Thats pretty much the direction I have always taken on them. The midwest
humidity seems to add to the problem. Especially when the soils are dry but
the humidity is high as it is right now.
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-
If thermal changes could effect the signal then that would make sense
though I do not recall seeing this for shots as short as we are running
in the higher frequency bands we are using. I always looked at thermal
effects as being a consequence only in the lower (VHF and below) bands.
In my past
Since different people saw the same problem in multiple locations I would
suspect a propagation problem, probably as a result of solar activity.
Looking at this page shows some data http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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From: John Scrivner [mailt
Let me say that the pricing mentioned for the 2.4 gear is single unit
"suggested" pricing. Volume discounts are available from all Trango
STARS and the 2.4 gear available at DoubleRadius currently has a $35
rebate direct from Trango. If you are interested in Volume pricing for
any Trango product li
On 2 Aug 2005 at 12:56, Brian Webster wrote:
> Since different people saw the same problem in multiple locations I would
> suspect a propagation problem, probably as a result of solar activity.
While possible, there's one thing that just makes that sound really weird.
We're using Trango gear as
I'm purely speculating here, but my thought is that somehow there may
have
been a solar flare or storm sometime during the day and the resulting
interference reached us at the times you have all mentioned. The
interference could have been just weak enough that unless a particular unit
had
Solar activity is often blamed for trouble. And it sure could be. I've
heard of radios that looked right into the sun at a certain time of day and
year. They'd run great till things were lined up just right (or is it just
wrong? hehehe) and then, poof, crappy service.
Usually it turns out
I know you really want to keep the existing gear. But it's really easy to
run new cat5 up to the mount and be done with it. Just pull all the old
crap down and go in with the new.
Or do like we are. We're all wifi gear (well, mostly) and we'll run the
outdoor radios indoors for those who ha
I think too many of you are keeping track of too
many things! We build in a fade margin so that when this happens (as it
naturally will) we can deal with it automatically.
Marlon(509)
982-2181
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Co
Care to take this one on Jeff?
Marlon
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w
I have several towers, all of which except for 1 never have any issues, however,
this 1 tower (we are the only tenant) seems to have a problem each year during
lightning season...
Last night it took a hit, although it appears it came through the electrical and
not the tower, but I’m not sure, the
Run one #6 solid copper ground wire between all ground rods and tie them
all together. Make sure the electrical supply ground rod is bonded to
this. I would also suggest that you run a monitor test of the voltage
at the location over time.
Scriv
Dan Metcalf wrote:
I have several towers, a
Thanks - I will do that
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> Run one #6 solid copper ground wire betwee
Unless all of your grounds are bonded together - You stand the risk of
causing your own nightmares due to the difference in potential across the 2
different grounding systems. Make sure everything is bonded together as 1
single grounding system.
JohnnyO
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From: "Da
Yeah that’s what I'm thinking, basically my cat5 wire and POE system is the bond
between the 2 separate grounds :-(... Is there an easy/cheap way to test of the
grounds are connected underground?
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Short - Straight - and on a single point ground system. You want to become
one with the tower. You do not want to make your equipment the least
resistant pathway to ground.
You might also request that additional (three (3) or more) 8 ft ground rods
be driven on 16 ft centers from existing rods a
You might try running a continuity test with your voltage meter.
Jeff
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
Yeah that's wh
Thanks Harold!
Guys, it seems to me that we should jump in bed with Continental on this
issue. This same rule would certainly apply to mesh type systems or aps
which have, thus far, not been covered under OTARD.
Thoughts?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sale
Shovel. Draw a line between them and start digging down.
Dan Metcalf wrote:
Yeah that’s what I'm thinking, basically my cat5 wire and POE system is the bond
between the 2 separate grounds :-(... Is there an easy/cheap way to test of the
grounds are connected underground?
Use these on ethernet. They ground all 8 pins, clamps voltage at 60v,
and provides bidirectional protection.. Never had one fail in 7
months. I live in the state of Michigan. 2nd worse for lightning. It
something protects here, it should protect anywhere else.
http://www.demarctech.com/pr
Y'all can kick Trango if you want to - - and I agree that they are
considerably higher than a lot of other gear on the market, BUT - I run
their 900MHz and 5.xGHz gear and since deployment I havent had one call
from someone who needed their radio rebooted and I havent made any
"flying" 50 m
Lonnie,
Thanks for the reply. Will take a look at these and probably to some test
replacements. It would be interesting to see a study on links info to
include equipment used, distance, power etc to make a comparison. Just not
much hard data on this stuff that I can find. Seems there are varian
anyone care to help?
Marlon(509)
982-2181
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Thanks smiley! It's a good thing you love us!
fyi folks.
Marlon
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From: "Jeff Liebermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [WISPA] Grounding questions/help
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 04:09:05PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-21
I replaced just the SBC (kn-205 board) and all is well for now, the radio
themselves are okay.
So I'm not sure that the current came in through the antenna, but rather some
how came across the cat5, connecting the tower ground to the AC ground (if
indeed they are separate grounds)
I will find ou
Here is a weird on to throw in there. I had a sub tell me last week
that every time they shoot the shuttle into space it screws up the
weather. Could it be an after effect from the shuttle going through
the atmosphere and into space?
Brian Webster wrote:
I'm purely speculating here, but
I already have this. http://www.elkriver.com/eagle.htm (the eagle
tower one)
I'm thinking about getting this.
http://www.dbisala.com/us/products/product_detail.asp
And thinking about getting this
http://www.dbisala.com/us/products/product_detail.asp
What else?
Eric Rogers wrote:
Some thoughts..
I agree that we should support Continental for the following reasons:
The use of the wireless system used by Continental is constructed in
space used exclusively by Continental and/or its agents, clients,
employees and cannot be used by any others. As such it is not conside
I"m on the other end of the country - Oregon...
I saw no changes in my 5 ghz stuff. Solar activity would have an impact
here too, right? how long does the influence last?
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