Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-06 Thread John Rock
Alvarion just released their Micro But you have to define affordable The biggest problem I see with most WISPs inquiring about 3.65 GHz use is they don't want to spend any money on the WiMAX technology that has been developed by the different manufacturers in that frequency band. John

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-06 Thread Patrick Leary
...Might as well toss out our bit as well...Aperto's PM3000. We are currently running a heavily discounted one or two base station promotion with CPEs for WISPA that includes comp'ed on site field engineering. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-06 Thread Kevin Suitor
Redline's AN-100U or AN-100UX. Talk to your Redline Certified partner about a starter kit. If you haven't deployed a RedMAX system previously you qualify for special incentives for a base station, CPE, Element Management System and Training package. Several of the WISPs here on the list have

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I thought about that. Not having one already (other than portable gas units) I was really thinking about diesel rather than propane. It'll probably cost more money, but how do you lug a reasonably sized propane tank up the hill when you can't drive to the site etc.? By using heating oil any

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Randy Cosby
Good points. I did find a vendor that does factory-warranted upgrades of yamaha generators to dual or tri-fuel, and they also sell a wired remote-start kit that could be triggered with a relay or dry contact closure. http://www.propane-generators.com Keeping the unit small does have some

[WISPA] Fw: [FCC Committee] [WISPA Members] Lobbying Donations, list of vendors donating?

2009-02-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
This can't possibly be true can it? Where are our vendors??? big grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Be careful if using this in cold climates at a remote site. Most diesels will need a block heater in order to start under a certain temperature, and powering a block heater at a solar site will not be practical. Your odds of automatically starting a propane generator in cold temps are much

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have a customer that has a natural gas connection at his NOC to the gas co. Course, it was great for them to put an natural gas generator. WHen they don't need it, they don't store anything, but when they do, let it run! Think they were on it for about 8 days straight without a hickup.

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread jp
I'd spend the generator budget on more batteries and panels. I'd now rather save generators for place where power use is great, and strings of batteries for places where power use is low and access is difficult. On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Randy Cosby wrote: Good points. I did

[WISPA] Alvarion Promotion on 3.65 Micro?

2009-02-06 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone with pricing info on this. hte website does not provide details Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Zachery Wolfinger
One thing to consider with natural gas generators for NOCs is that in an emergency, it's not unheard of for the city/fire department to cut both electric and gas. We ran into CLECS that had this happen to them when I was spec'ing out a new CO for a telco I used to work for. Thank you, Zak

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://www.propane-generators.com/ http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/products/modelhome/444/0/home.aspx The yamaha has a remote start ability via an add-on. ryan Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought about that. Not having one already (other than portable gas units) I was

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
We bought gas generators. Portable, briggs engines, gas can be found any where any time. Two circuits on them - manual says 42 amps total but we don't even come close. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
That's a good thing to keep in mind. Also if you're in an earthquake prone area, gas lines can rupture at the same time underground substation feeders are cut. You're not completely protected from the fire department if you've got diesel generators, though. Take The Planet's multi-day outage

[WISPA] For your consideration

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Wyble
http://bennett.com/blog/2009/02/thought-you-had-no-alternatives-for-broadband/ -- Charles N Wyble char...@thewybles.com (818)280-7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO SocalWiFI.net WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Honestly when we got our gas generators it was the only thing we could find (and we drove an hour and a half each way to get them). I just came up with the gas supply thing when Zachery brought up the fact propane/natural gas gets shut off =) They worked SO WELL the first week. We filled them

[WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread lakeland
Anyone using one of these? Would love to hear pros and cons Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I have seen several HP laptops - nothing really good or bad about them, they're just out there. I am a die hard fan of Thinkpad, Thinkpads for me. Thinkpad moved their manufacturing half to Lenovo. I just bought our new employee a $500 Lenovo from Systemax/Infotel and I'm quite impressed.

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Steve Barnes
I have a Computer Store as well as RC-WiFi. The only notebooks I sell as a rule is Lenovo. Have sold probably 50 last year and did not have a single one return for hardware issues. For business they are rock solid. Not big fan of the low end models. Prefer the $700 and up systems. We

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
After seven years, we've got nothing but Thinkpads now. A Dell overheated constantly and frequently shutdown. The Toshiba lost a drive, a power supply, and keycaps. Two HPs (new within the past year) have screen defects...stripes. The Thinkpads just keep on truckin' except for one that

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Note that Thinkpad supports their laptops (great stuff!), Lenovo supports their own. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Yes, and, in London once, I had a dropped Thinkpad fixed there in a day. Super service in many parts of the world...important for travelers. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

[WISPA] Mikrotik Question.

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Jenkins
I need to do packet and bandwidth throttling on some users. I hear everyone say that Mikrotik is the answer. However I need something that will be a bridge (not route) and throttle by MAC address only. Can Mikrotik do this? - Matt

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question.

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Yes, by creating a mangle rule for the mac address and mark the packets then a queue rule to rate limit by packet mark I believe Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread David Hulsebus
I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but I've used a Thinkpad - now Lenovo since 1993. I'd still have the 486 based 700 series, but IBM wanted it back when I left. I've had five laptops and haven't bought a new one because of breakage yet - replaced only for performance issues. We still have

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question.

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Kind of like this: /ip firew mang add action=mark-packet chain=prerouting comment= disabled=no new-packet-mark=\ desktoppackets passthrough=yes src-mac-address=00:02:B3:8C:18:E4 /que simp add burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s comment= direction=both \ disabled=no

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Those T42s are real workhorses. I can highly recommend new trackpoint rubber head replacements. A new one doesn't slip on a sweaty finger and costs about a dime on eBay if you buy them in lots of 100 (heck, give the rest away). I've got my 750, 755, two of the butterfly keyboard units - 701s,

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
They're the bricks to the nerd cave! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Schmidt

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Yeah...don't make me feel bad... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook They're the bricks to the nerd cave!

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Don't! It's something to be proud of! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Jonathan Schmidt

[WISPA] Mesh Solutions

2009-02-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
What are some sub-$500 solutions for dual radio WiFi Mesh that support Multi-SSID with VLAN tagging? I already know I can do it for around 360/unit with MikroTik, just wondering if I am overlooking anything. Thanks Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Solutions

2009-02-06 Thread Charles Wyble
ubnt.com :) Jerry Richardson wrote: What are some sub-$500 solutions for dual radio WiFi Mesh that support Multi-SSID with VLAN tagging? I already know I can do it for around 360/unit with MikroTik, just wondering if I am overlooking anything. Thanks -- Charles N Wyble

Re: [WISPA] Point to point links, NLOS

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Actually, the inverse. Lower gain, wider beam, assuming all else equal. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:23 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Point to point links, NLOS

2009-02-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm going to try 2.4GHz in 10 and 5 mhz channels and see how that plays out. Worst case I use them as CPEs in other areas. Thank you for the suggestions! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I thought you were talking antenna, not radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:43 PM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com; Motorola

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
For emergency situations, never rely on someone else to do something in the event that they can't or won't (natural gas service being one). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Zachery Wolfinger

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I think everyone is missing netbook vs. notebook. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject:

[WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
Comments/experiences please? This product appears to be a bit more refined than some other solutions and as a real manufacturer there is real support rather than having to pay for it. Plus it appears to be FCC certified with a number of antennas Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-06 Thread eje
Uhm. Is Cisco not a real manufacturer? Don't you have to pay for design work and training classes and that with them or pay for advanced support there? If you want free support then you could look at things like Dlink or Linksys. You have free support there directly from the manufacturer.

Re: [WISPA] propane generators?

2009-02-06 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You can get an adapter that will convert your natural gas generator to propane. So, get natural gas but keep some propane tanks around with the adapter if necessary. We run natural gas and have never had a problem in 7 years. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Mike Hammett

[WISPA] Terabridge 5845

2009-02-06 Thread Joel White
Does anyone have a manual or configuration information for one of these links? I have one that we need to setup, but have 0 documentation on it. Thanks, Joel NexGenAccess Inc. www.nexgenaccess.com 740-513-4122 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com

Re: [WISPA] Terabridge 5845

2009-02-06 Thread Brad Belton
Hey Joel, Just sent you a manual off list. Enjoy. These are good radios and perform as advertised. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joel White Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:11 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
From a vendor perspective, Eje is right. StarOS has gone through a lot of weird stages that lead to alienation of their vendors, and ended up settling on a situation where it has a limited number of vendors. From an operators perspective, the software is fantastic. The wireless drivers

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-06 Thread reader
I have used Star-OS as the foundation of my network for 4 years now.I have little complaint except for the strangeness of the guys in charge, who seem to plot their own course and assume the world will follow them aorund. Performance is good, there is a short vertical learning curve to

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-06 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
What would you call a high packet count condition? What type of customer should I up sell to higher priced systems? I know P2P will cause a high count, especially if BW is limited and not connections...is VoIP high or low? What else? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-06 Thread RickG
Ya, never know who is on this list! I'd still have my 1982 IBM PC-1 that I trained on back in my IBM days. It looked just like this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC -RickG On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: I'm sure I still bleed a little blue, but