Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
It projects a cone instead of a disc. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
So its just something that is there with no adjustment? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle It projects a cone instead of a disc. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors.
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
Not so dumb. But a simple Google search for electrical downtilt results in: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=145707page=11 The first result. Gives a simple, clear answer as far as I read it. Chuck On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
Correct, it is achieved by altering the phasing between the sections compared to a non-downtilt antenna. The sections that determine the phasing are a different length. It's a physical thing, not electronic. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: So its just something that is there with no adjustment? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle It projects a cone instead of a disc. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
Bandwidth or bits? Actually ip track kind of does both. Each customer can see the speeds that their system was averaging. We never use it because we worry about peak speeds, but the data is there. All data is sent by the main routers. marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com To: Mikrotik discussions mikro...@mail.butchevans.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Hello list, I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a hard time coming up with a good solution. Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate three things: 1) Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers and that is in a database form that we can perform queries on 2) Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that will show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the first of each month 3) A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we can import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so we can bill overages Our system is setup as follows: 1) StarOS access points 2) OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone links 3) Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location 5) Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting information returned by the StarOS APs. PPPoE is also not an option as we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would easily convert to PPPoE. Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers, as that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its pre-NAT status. We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be accurate and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow exports. We have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is not accurate, and I have no intention on billing a customer based on inaccurate data. We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed levels of success. I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program, which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was not responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something open source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do what we need. My preference is to go open source because we have multiple backbone connections and also because I have several consulting customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their networks. Also, I want to make sure that this is revenue neutral and can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed. We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the data flows.My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer something that runs on Linux. I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source, linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find the email where he lays all of the elements out. Does anyone have any recommendations for this situation? Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that they are required by law to do. There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they are causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint between two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. Thats the reality of the matter. -B- Jerry Richardson writes: Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending ISP, previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are affecting other
[WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing
As more and more devices support 5.x GHz access, is there solutions to auto optimize clients on the best 2.4 GHz or 5.x GHz channel? That is to say, 2.4 GHz goes farther, but 5.x GHz has more capacity and is less cluttered. Say a new iPad sees both signals, is there an access point that could figure out the best band for it (receive signal for STA, best SNR, etc) and then somehow strongly suggest that the STA switch to that band? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing
You can use connect lists in Mikrotik to force clients to connect at minimum levels. This way you don¹t have to worry so much about the band, but meeting those minimum levels. I am assuming you are working this into a hotspot type of setup. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com Reply-To: scubac...@gmail.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:49:59 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing As more and more devices support 5.x GHz access, is there solutions to auto optimize clients on the best 2.4 GHz or 5.x GHz channel? That is to say, 2.4 GHz goes farther, but 5.x GHz has more capacity and is less cluttered. Say a new iPad sees both signals, is there an access point that could figure out the best band for it (receive signal for STA, best SNR, etc) and then somehow strongly suggest that the STA switch to that band? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about 15 dBi omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10 dBi for any application. On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that they are required by law to do. There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
If they are operating illegally, a quick way to get them shut down is to contact the owner of the tower they are on next to yours. I recommend a verbal phone call informing them of the situation including all documentation via e-mail. I would follow it with a certified letter. Most tower operators / owners do not want to be involved with lawsuits. Almost all tower contracts provide the operator a stick to beat the bad tenant with. You can simultaneously go for a civil lawsuit under tortuous interference. Under TR you are able to get Treble Damages (a good thing to note in your letters). Marco Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
Electrically. :) Had to. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that I could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so from the tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25 miles out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so small, I was way overshooting my intended target. Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width, and lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very small subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet high. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400 Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on planet Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal into space. :) Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a big way. I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators which have never failed me but these things have me upside down. Tower height, distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested in others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their angles. Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the money but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me a smaller slice to work with. On the advice of another member I have been trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's. Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector antenna is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If you don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal parallel to the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want. Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent function. No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when calculating downtilt: 1. How high up is the sector antenna? 2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet spot? 3. How close in to the tower do you need service? #2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a tradeoff. leb At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: . Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing with 'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty much leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the horizon The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off.. only becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers.. Faisal. On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the tilt angle to jive. With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and go right where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones, nothing I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels while I tilt up and down seems to be good. I REALLY don't want to have to do that with all of them... Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these things? Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca 1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement. The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required. Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of directors on closing. The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws, and may not be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an applicable exemption from applicable registration requirements in the US. This press release shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy nor shall there be any sale of the securities in any jurisdiction in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful. Tranzeo and the Tranzeo logo are registered trademarks of Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc.
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that they are required by law to do. There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they are causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint between two Part 15
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Extra limb alert. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Yes, the cat is out of the bag. We are very excited about this... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Drew Lentz Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca 1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement. The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required. Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of directors on closing. The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws, and may not be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an applicable exemption from applicable registration requirements in the US. This
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement. The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required. Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of directors on closing. The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws, and may not be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an applicable exemption from applicable registration requirements in the US. This press
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX). It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that. Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake things up a bit. And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt Larson to become a customer! Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
We use mrtg/rrd to collect data transfer values from cpe. Then we use mrtg totalizer to produce graphs that have daily and month totals. We also have a modified totalizer script that checks to see if that are any bandwidth abusers because they have used more than x in the last 30 days and y in the last 1 day and then we slow there connection down via adding queues rules in a MikroTik router (and then disable the rules if they are behaving again). David -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:24 PM To: Mikrotik discussions; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions Hello list, I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a hard time coming up with a good solution. Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate three things: 1) Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers and that is in a database form that we can perform queries on 2) Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that will show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the first of each month 3) A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we can import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so we can bill overages Our system is setup as follows: 1) StarOS access points 2) OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone links 3) Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location 5) Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting information returned by the StarOS APs. PPPoE is also not an option as we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would easily convert to PPPoE. Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers, as that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its pre-NAT status. We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be accurate and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow exports. We have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is not accurate, and I have no intention on billing a customer based on inaccurate data. We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed levels of success. I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program, which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was not responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something open source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do what we need. My preference is to go open source because we have multiple backbone connections and also because I have several consulting customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their networks. Also, I want to make sure that this is revenue neutral and can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed. We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the data flows.My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer something that runs on Linux. I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source, linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find the email where he lays all of the elements out. Does anyone have any recommendations for this situation? Thanks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Don't want to get into details but the Tranzeo reputation among Wisp is varied Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX). It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that. Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake things up a bit. And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt Larson to become a customer! Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group.
[WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Maybe others have the power to keep this in mind but a network diagram would certainly help. From what I'm gathering the issue isn't a MT backhaul but rather things at a site going up/down in weird patterns. My first guess would be bad switch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Do you have other 5GHz in that area? Any possibility of the DFS being triggered? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
In that case it WAS the vendor's fault because THEY often picked out the config for new people. If I recall correctly they were smacked around a bit by the FCC for selling known bad systems. Either way, that problem seems to have fixed it's self. marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Hyperlink is still around... L-Com. It's not really the vendor's fault. Realistically there could be applications where an amp is needed, i.e. long coax runs, smaller antennas, etc. It really is up to the operator to make sure they are in compliance. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Bridged or routed ? /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:06:29 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc
I have a few questions for those of you who sell bandwidth by the byte: 1. What is the threshold you use, ie, 3Gb in 30 days, or do you have different packages? 2. Is this total bytes in out or just in? 3. What do you charge for overages? 4. Have you considered just throttling back customers like the satellite guys do? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
He says he's all bridged right now. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? Bridged or routed ? /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:06:29 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
What RouterOS version are you running? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
I personally would use Mikrotik. An IT company around here uses (from memory) RouteFinder form MultiTech. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Well he isn't the only WISP friend that uses Tranzeo, come on now. Just waiting for the Motorola people to start slamming Aperto now. -- Original Message -- From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:14:17 -0700 The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX). It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that. Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake things up a bit. And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt Larson to become a customer! Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
All sites have good, clean power? Do the logs say anything before you reboot? Dirty power causes a ton of weird issues. If you have something that regulates the power you can rule that out. It could be maybe a motor or something kicks on and causes enough voltage drop to lockup the board. If would turn on graphing on the Tiks themselves. Have it write to disk so it survives a reboot. See if the CPU spikes, bandwidth spikes, or whatever. Logging to disk is also a good idea. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:46:11 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Is there a reason you are using Pseudobridge? You will not be able to pass any MAC addresses behind the Station (CPE/Slave), it MAC NATs. Change to WDS instead and see if your problems go away. It is better to have a layer 2 bridge and deal with the broadcasts at each site. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
This is exactly what I did and it worked, we are not coordinating frequencies, they are a professional tower firm and immediately called their clients and both called me. It also told me I had two new competitors in town :(, at least their professional unlike the local boys, problem appears solved now. Thanks, Forbes On 3/31/2010 8:22 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: If they are operating illegally, a quick way to get them shut down is to contact the owner of the tower they are on next to yours. I recommend a verbal phone call informing them of the situation including all documentation via e-mail. I would follow it with a certified letter. Most tower operators / owners do not want to be involved with lawsuits. Almost all tower contracts provide the operator a stick to beat the bad tenant with. You can simultaneously go for a civil lawsuit under tortuous interference. Under TR you are able to get Treble Damages (a good thing to note in your letters). Marco Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Cheers Stu. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Well he isn't the only WISP friend that uses Tranzeo, come on now. Just waiting for the Motorola people to start slamming Aperto now. -- Original Message -- From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:14:17 -0700 The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX). It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that. Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake things up a bit. And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt Larson to become a customer! Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
Depends on what you want to do with it. In terms of what to use both connections for. Failover, Load Balancing...etc... I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
I inherited a system with several Hyperlink 15dBi antennas on the repeater sites. My first thought was yuk. After living with them for over 3 years I've been very impressed on how well they work. I tried replacing one with a Pacific Wireless OD24-12 unit with electronic downtilt, lost association with half my clients and the other half had high packet loss. I ended up putting the original omni back in. I'm all ears on explanations for these results. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about 15 dBi omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10 dBi for any application. On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Yea, I learned my lesson. I now use 7.5dB Omni's with downtilt. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Cameron Crum cc...@dot11net.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 -0600 Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about 15 dBi omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10 dBi for any application. On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakelandlakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my towers. They wouldnt sell it to me! -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that they are required by law to do. There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
No experience with them, but have heard great things about the Draytek stuff - http://www.draytek.us/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Wow! It's like a dream - Tranzeo and Pat too! -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Yes, the cat is out of the bag. We are very excited about this... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Drew Lentz Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca 1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement. The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required. Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of directors on closing. The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the Securities Act of 1933,
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
I think I tried what you're talking about. It did not work well for me. This is how I do it... http://stfunoo.be/?p=268 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Depends on what you want to do with it. In terms of what to use both connections for. Failover, Load Balancing...etc... I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Hello, But AMD was. LOL -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it? I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement. The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the merger will be subject
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Really? I hadn't heard that before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, But AMD was. LOL -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it? I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be issued within 120
[WISPA] ubnt bridging
I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card. NVidia only. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM To: nstooke...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Really? I hadn't heard that before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, But AMD was. LOL -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it? I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions. Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
DFS enabled on any of them? There was something about DFS issues, I think before the 3.3 firmware. Anyone know if that was fixed in 3.3? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Seen it many times. Tranzeo is notorious with me for weak ethernet. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Why aren't you using WDS on the site B-C link? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Do you mean that at site A when your system is in trouble you are able to communicate with the 433 over the wired connection? What about sites B and C? When the tech gets on scene does he have access to the gear that's down via ethernet? Does the gear respond? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
I bought an amp from them once (before I knew better) and they only sold it to me because I was taking it out of the country (they took my word on it). Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, RickG wrote: I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my towers. They wouldnt sell it to me! -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY,
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
We bought out a company several years ago. They had some Hyperlink 2 watt 900MHZ amps. I can only imagine how much ³damage² those could do if they were hooked to an Omni. Sheesh. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:15:43 -0430 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I bought an amp from them once (before I knew better) and they only sold it to me because I was taking it out of the country (they took my word on it). Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, RickG wrote: I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my towers. They wouldnt sell it to me! -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! lol Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go away sooner than later. Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there are in business today. It's a shame. But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS! Don't know about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a week than see a company fail due to bad advice. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
What about the router? Has this been changed at all? Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two? What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I guess the obvious, have you changed routers yet ? -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half your throughput. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote: The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
We have seen Tranzeos have bad negotiation issues. We stopped using Tranzeo with the newer GIG port Mikrotiks. They simply wont keep the link. We advise our clients to either keep some 450 10/100 boards on stock or swap out the tranzeos rather than hooking up to a Gig port. I know what you all are thinking. Simply hard set the router port to 10 or 100. Doesn¹t work in the real world. I have verified this with TR6000, CPQ, and TR5x. All with varying levels of firmware. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:03 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. What about the router? Has this been changed at all? Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two? What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.² --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.² --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.² --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Yep - Tried another Router - Haven't tried a switch yet.. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. What about the router? Has this been changed at all? Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two? What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
How about the Tranzeo hardware reset to defaults. (One of the reasons we dumped them a while back, that and Ubiquiti came to market at half the price/better performance). Regards Michael Baird Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
That does not matter, the Bullet is in bridge mode. Regards Michael Baird Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
Mikrotik PF-Sense Syswan All would do the trick. Faisal. On 3/31/2010 2:47 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Depends on what you want to do with it. In terms of what to use both connections for. Failover, Load Balancing...etc... I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickGrgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
Yeah, that brings back bad memories. I did that once(wds ap mode) and had nothing but problems. I will try the wds station mode and see how that works. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half your throughput. Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote: The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem. MT and UBNT wds work together best I remember. What is the down side to using WDS on the AP? Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS? LaRoy McCann Data Technology Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Change both the Ap CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode... (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units). Faisal. On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you replaced the poe, just power supply. -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
This is not a water issue. New radio today, and it started acting up within 30 minutes. Our whole wireless network is bridged - we haven't seen issue like this with any other setup we have out there. The only component we haven't swapped out is the wire up to the radio. It's new construction, with a professionally installed outdoor Cat5 run to the radio. We did replace the ends today... -Gary- - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+ years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter and patch cable to the Router. - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you replaced the poe, just power supply. -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging
One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box (x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on the local MT with torch. If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the local MT box. Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route. It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic. Any other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead of bridging it. I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / disable proxy-arp. I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make things work. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Stuart Pierce wrote: Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I run Tranzeo gear in the 5Ghz band and I've had the same issues. Try rolling the firmware on the radio back to an earlier version even thought it's new out of the box. I have had two whole shipments with 5.0.2 that did the exact same thing for me. Needless to say, they all have 3.6.7 now and are working fine. New shipments today have 5.0.3 which works just fine. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+ years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter and patch cable to the Router. - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you replaced the poe, just power supply. -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- ~Ron Calhoun KCnet Wireless Administrator WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
5.0.4 is working great for me. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Calhoun Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. I run Tranzeo gear in the 5Ghz band and I've had the same issues. Try rolling the firmware on the radio back to an earlier version even thought it's new out of the box. I have had two whole shipments with 5.0.2 that did the exact same thing for me. Needless to say, they all have 3.6.7 now and are working fine. New shipments today have 5.0.3 which works just fine. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+ years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter and patch cable to the Router. - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you replaced the poe, just power supply. -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- ~Ron Calhoun KCnet Wireless Administrator WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I have had issues on FM Towers that cause problems with ethernet - not just with Tranzeo either. We are getting ready to run fiber up an FM tower in the next two weeks to resolve ongoing ethernet issues. One of the FM stations most likely has an antenna going bad that is causing the problem. Same thing happened last year, and two weeks after we ran the fiber, the main FM antenna at that tower burned up, with holes melted through the connectors at the bottom.They were lucky it didn't burst into flames. Tranzeo's ethernet setup is actually pretty robust. There is a ferrite bead inside on the ethernet jumper and it does seem to make it work better than a few other radios I have used. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 3/31/2010 3:13 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you replaced the poe, just power supply. -- Original Message -- From: Kosinet Wirelesswirel...@kosinet.com Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400 We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Do the radios show link connection before you reboot? If so, have you tried to MAC telnet into them? I have a couple that would show down but I could MAC telnet into them. All of the onboard functions worked. Then I tried to ping something else and got a buffer overflow error. Reboot would fix for some period of time. At least with mine I did not have to go to the site. Forbes Mercy wrote: We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a tool... ever. Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate of the radios squishing the foam. Hand tighten the nut as far as you can. Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit. Done. DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in water. The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working great) ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some time. Full guide here: http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a tool... ever. Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate of the radios squishing the foam. Hand tighten the nut as far as you can. Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit. Done. DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in water. The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working great) ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Was it time between announcement and ACTUAL delivery? :P ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some time. Full guide here: http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a tool... ever. Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate of the radios squishing the foam. Hand tighten the nut as far as you can. Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit. Done. DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in water. The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working great) ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: You can use connect lists in Mikrotik to force clients to connect at minimum levels. This way you don’t have to worry so much about the band, but meeting those minimum levels. I am assuming you are working this into a hotspot type of setup. Exactly. It's a hotspot, but not just a hotspot, one with tens of thousands of people. The new PDA phones have 5.x GHz chipsets, and I'm hoping to offload a significant number of clients on that bad where feasible. I was hoping for a wireless solution that was automagic there, but haven't yet found one... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Bob, I fully agree with your point. FCC enforcement is not the best method for promptly curing illegal interference that is harming one's operations. The process does not move fast enough for that. I know if I have not resolved such interference within the day, I've lost the subscribers. There is always a better approach, whether it be to rebuild one's own equipment/network to work around it, negotiate directly with other party, cause reciprocal harm until they play nice, or have attorney send letter. FCC enforcement only occurs at a time table acceptable to penalize those that abuse and ignore the regulations. It was mentioned recently by WISPA's attorney (Steve), that the FCC's authority is only to shut down abusers and fine abusers. There are no mechanisms or legal authority for compensating those that have been interferred with. If illegal interference occurs to the level that rebuilding one's own radio solution can not help, and the time involved in engaging the FCC is needed, I'd argue that it is likely a situation where the one being interfered with is at risk of incurring enough significant harm, that it may be wise to document the violation legally anyways. Thus, might be worth sending the attorney letter. You'd atleast then be able to prove if the violator agreed or refused to cooperate and take corrective action. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I agree with WHO. But you are talking MONTHS and not even sure if anything has been done. How many people out here can wait MONTHS for a cure to their issue? And its unknown if there even was or will be any enforcement action. If I make a complaint to enforcement regarding a licensed interference issue they are on that within 24 hours. If I tell them who and where and/or its a public safety issue they will usually respond within hours. But you're saying MONTHS with all the right info. I don't know. Still sounds like what I said. :-) -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him that there was nothing they could do. I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the consumer complaint folks. He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the complaint. This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in order first. It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the allowable power levels. For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which means less interference etc. etc. etc. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. marlon - Original Message - From: Lakeland lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY,
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
- Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Force the equipment it is connected to to 10 Mb. - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that solves the problem first. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router. The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as burped - It's been rock solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 with a stock power supply, and it's been great. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Yes. IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad... The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though working GREAT for years). If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then 1) recrimp both ends 2) replace radio 3) replace line If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Very good one - didn't think about that =) Actually it's because I replaced Tranzeo 2.4 stuff with Mikrotik ARC kits (EXPENSIVE). I had not heard of Ubiquiti until the list I think... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Was it time between announcement and ACTUAL delivery? :P ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some time. Full guide here: http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a tool... ever. Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate of the radios squishing the foam. Hand tighten the nut as far as you can. Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit. Done. DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in water. The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working great) ryan On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging -- solved
Well, I set the AP to use WDS and the bullet to station wds and now everything works ok. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Data Technology wrote: One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box (x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on the local MT with torch. If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the local MT box. Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route. It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic. Any other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead of bridging it. I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / disable proxy-arp. I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make things work. LaRoy McCann Data Technology Stuart Pierce wrote: Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged bullets and not in WDS. -- Original Message -- From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500 Completely different subnets. AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127) Bridged Bullet x.x.x.126/26 Local MT x.x.x.125/26 Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125 LaRoy McCann Data Technology Greg Ihnen wrote: Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that /24? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote: I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode. This is connected on the ethernet side to an MT router. Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office. The office computers work fine. I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router in order to feed a local access point at the office. The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic. Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)? I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS. Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see what it can do. I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function within them. I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru. I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network control. LaRoy McCann Data Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
They do not show registered at the site that feeds them so no, something is causing them is dissociate. Thanks for the input, Forbes On 3/31/2010 1:50 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Do the radios show link connection before you reboot? If so, have you tried to MAC telnet into them? I have a couple that would show down but I could MAC telnet into them. All of the onboard functions worked. Then I tried to ping something else and got a buffer overflow error. Reboot would fix for some period of time. At least with mine I did not have to go to the site. Forbes Mercy wrote: We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Well. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. I dont know that in-trouble was an appropriate inference, Aperto has many valueable assets such as patents, reputation, and customer base. But the above quotes would suggest that Aperto was comming up short on capital (cash) for future growth, considering it appears they agreed to merge for under the value of pending revenue/sales. Whether this is a good thing for past Aperto Stockholders, I do not know. But I can only view this as a good thing for WISPs, and the emerged stronger combined company. I also would think this would strengthen equipment buyer's confidence that they were buying into a complete solution that would last, with the AP/CPE manufactures tied togeather as one by more than just the wimax standard. I also find it interesting that Aperto will continue to operating as an independent subsidiary, after words. I could think of a few reasons why. Just wondering if that is partially to also protect each product line's focus (Aperto high end, Tranzeo value line). Then again, maybe operating under the Tranzeo vision, Aperto AP will migrate into the value line also. I dont mean anything bad by that, Aperto offers lots of value, I'm just referring to the fact that the Tranzeo compoents sell at lower price. I also dont think this is a good one to compare to Proxim mergers, as just occured. With Proxim mergers, there wasn't really much complimentary product offerings achievied by each party, if anything there was duplication of lines and discontinuance of lines. Where as with Aperto/Tranzeo, clearly the marriage of the AP and CPE makes sense. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca 1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners. This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in Indonesia, said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. With our joint
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Excellent question, we have never tried that yet, we simply reboot. It's 400 people down so we kind of hurry, next time we will. On 3/31/2010 12:39 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Do you mean that at site A when your system is in trouble you are able to communicate with the 433 over the wired connection? What about sites B and C? When the tech gets on scene does he have access to the gear that's down via ethernet? Does the gear respond? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
last year we had problems in passing traffic and we were instructed by a fellow WISP to do it this way. Its worked for about 8 months with no problem until this started happening. Perhaps we should make them all the same, we're considering that as one of the fixes. Forbes On 3/31/2010 12:37 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Why aren't you using WDS on the site B-C link? Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info: Site A RB532A board AR5212 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site A RB133 board A5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as Station WDS Running WDS and Nstreme Site B to Site C RB532A board AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as an AP Bridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) Site C RB532A AR5413 chip v3.30 OS Running as station pseudobridge Running Nstreme (not WDS) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Well, I fully agree that there was a time in history when ATI conflicted with every other thing, and Nvidia just worked. But in today's world, I'm finding Nvidia to be almost just as bad.(And I'm a Nvidia fan) Now, my ATI cards seem to just work. I'm not talking about gaming compatibilty. I'm talking about the whole PC crashing or wierd video problems, just using the operating system with various MBs. Its a vicious circle, this PC world we live in.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card. NVidia only. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM To: nstooke...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Really? I hadn't heard that before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, But AMD was. LOL -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it? I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Wow Was Aperto in financial trouble? This is like YDI buying Proxim Or Ubiquity buying Motorola Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice products for WISPs. http://bit.ly/bX4HTc Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT /investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. (Aperto) and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo. The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US $8.3 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M. Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers, said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better. The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service providers, said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. We continue to be bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market. Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide. Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Their hardware was great, just had to wait for LightSpeed to re-write
the drivers!!
Mike Hammett wrote:
ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to
purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card. NVidia only.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM
To: nstooke...@wisperisp.com; "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Really? I hadn't heard that before.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com
wrote:
Hello,
But AMD was. LOL
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?
I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
wrote:
Wow
Was Aperto in financial trouble?
This is like YDI buying Proxim
Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz" d...@drewlentz.com wrote:
Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
nice
products for WISPs.
http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
solution
PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
--
BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
/investing/stock/TZT?countrycode=ca  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
premier
manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
the
terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
subsidiary of
Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
becomes a
complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
WiMax and
LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
$8.3
million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
"Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
while
still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
service
providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
now in
trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
fruit within
a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
"The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
Managing
Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
combined
technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
provide.
"Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
product
breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
and
channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
basis,"said
Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
Aperto
Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
expanding
our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
"This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
in
Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
(TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
infrastructure
provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
agreement
with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through
issuances of
common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Forbes, Hope the rest of the list doesn't think I'm nuts: Do you see any large, hi gain CB or Ham beam antennas or Truckers from the southern area parked or loading nearby? Within say 1/4 mile of B tower? The new mobile 70KW class C Linear's are about as dirty as they come. Some of those drivers from Mexico and AZ are talking direct, no skip, 500 miles on the lower vertical channels. That much bleed over in radiated power may trip ground on your switch and or MT boards. It could come right thru your tower grounding, let alone your antennas and CAt5. Could you try batteries there? Say a smart charger thru a UPS, then to batteries. i.e. no common ground. Chuck Profito -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
Chuck, You hope we don't *think* you're nuts?! coughknowcough ;-) Chuck On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: Forbes, Hope the rest of the list doesn't think I'm nuts: Do you see any large, hi gain CB or Ham beam antennas or Truckers from the southern area parked or loading nearby? Within say 1/4 mile of B tower? The new mobile 70KW class C Linear's are about as dirty as they come. Some of those drivers from Mexico and AZ are talking direct, no skip, 500 miles on the lower vertical channels. That much bleed over in radiated power may trip ground on your switch and or MT boards. It could come right thru your tower grounding, let alone your antennas and CAt5. Could you try batteries there? Say a smart charger thru a UPS, then to batteries. i.e. no common ground. Chuck Profito -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas? We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls. It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each other, all other sites work fine. Site A is my head end, it is a Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another site to Site B. Site B has the same equipment that goes through a managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further. What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down. Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up. Site B and C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up but Site C stays down. We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up. This will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B and that has to be rebooted. We normally run arp -d to clear up any residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged not routed network. The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day user. We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they don't show much unusual. We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to run diagnostics there. This is very manpower heavy as we have to send people two places and average down time is one hour to do this. We are going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that doesn't help now. Any ideas would be appreciated. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I have 350+ Tranzeo CPE's in the field. Love em, The AP's are good too, pretty much set and forget, but I use MT for AP's because I love MT's goodies. But for a non-tech savy person I would not hesitate to advise them to deploy a Tranzeo AP. A lot of people bash Tranzeo but actually the company is doing really well. I think there are many more WISPS out there using them with great success and not reporting back to any lists. My network as 99% Tranzeo CPE's and I'm glad I made the decision to uniformly deploy them back in 2005. I've seen other wisps deploy a mix of CPE's and it never turns out good, just makes a mess. I can go to any client and swap a radio within 5 minutes using only a nut driver. Plus I've been thinking about 3.65 and I am very glad to hear of the Aperto merger. This is def something I want to deploy someday and I wanted to stay with Tranzeo for CPE and so now I'll be able to do that. Just imagine being able to swap out the customer's old CPE200-15 radio with a new WIMAX radio within 5 minutes using only a nut driver. I can because I have uniformly deployed the same CPE for all my clients. Oh and BTW, In 5 years have only had 1 water leak issue with the boot cover, and I hand tighten them as well. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals. If you just don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the boot messing with the seal. However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE THEM BRIDGED. Try setting it to router and login to the radio. If all is fine there then the cabling is fine. You can port forward to a inside address if you want with Tranzeo. Is bridged really important. Remember Friends don't let friends bridge networks Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the other way, we now have great signal. :-) The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off. It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is off-line, I can still access the Radio. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
