Re: [WISPA] off topic -- sky show tonight

2010-08-13 Thread Mike
Yeah, we have a couple of telescopes. I know very little actually, but with computer control can find all the objects. :-) Ain't technology great? Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com

Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Mark Dueck
It's a brand new PS purchased about 2 months ago. I'll have to try B only then to see if that will have better performance. I've been checking all the clients, and I see some of them with very high retries. They are pushing through trees. Could be a likely cause right? On 08/12/2010 11:36

Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Steve Barnes
How did you resolve this. I have 3 that intermittently connect and disconnect that could explain it. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
Yeah, has a demand meter but other than the AC, no spikes in usage. Old location was on the high side but was consistent. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Crawford Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
Take the cover off and look at the connectors on the board. They are hot glued on but the ones I had go bad, the glue became brittle and broke off. I found that the connector to the board was very loose. As in, too big to snap into the board. A manufacturing snafu I suspect with a nice amount

[WISPA] FS: 3 5750 AP's P10 Connectorized

2010-08-13 Thread Chuck Hogg
I bought them from either PDMNet or SurplusWireless. They have a very nice connectorization done to them, with the actual Motorola Canopy Pigtails. They were never put into service by me, and they appear to be new. $500 each or make me an offer. (This message was delayed delivery by

Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread Ralph
If you don't NEEED three phase, don't install it. The metering is more complex, there are 3 transformers, and the basic monthly bill is probably more expensive as they pass their costs of the complexity on to you. Someone wrote about the Demand Meter with the peak indicator, and I wanted to

[WISPA] UBNT Grounding

2010-08-13 Thread chris cooper
We've had numerous storms here over the past couple of weeks. We have replaced a box full of Nano and Bullets. This leads me to believe that our install practices might be improved. How are others grounding these units effectively? Thanks Chris Intelliwave

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding

2010-08-13 Thread RickG
Are you using shielded cable? Also, surge protection on the POE? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:39 AM, chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.comwrote: We've had numerous storms here over the past couple of weeks. We have replaced a box full of Nano and Bullets. This leads me to believe that our

Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread Frank Crawford
Thanks Ralph for clearing up my confusion about 3 phase metering. Frank On 8/13/2010 6:46 AM, Ralph wrote: If you don't NEEED three phase, don't install it. The metering is more complex, there are 3 transformers, and the basic monthly bill is probably more expensive as they pass their costs

[WISPA] Notes on Int'l Wireless Summit currently underway in Vienna

2010-08-13 Thread Ben West
I operate a small, experimental 2.4GHz mesh in St. Louis called WasabiNet, and I was happy I could attend the WISPA conference held here last month. In the course of developing WasabiNet, I received a small grant to travel to the Int'l Summit for Community Wireless currently underway in Vienna (

Re: [WISPA] Notes on Int'l Wireless Summit currently underway in Vienna

2010-08-13 Thread Patrick Leary
Lucky you!. Vienna is on my wanna go list and is consistently rated as a top 3 city worldwide (vancouver and Sydney usually hold the other two spaces). I will look forward to reading your posts Ben. Should be interesting what folks are doing outside our boundaries. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks

[WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Rick Harnish
I will be attending a Strategy Meeting in New York later this month which is hosted by NABA (Native American Broadband Association and Intersections International). Alex Goldman will be covering these meetings as well. Between now and then, I would like to hear from WISPs across the country that

[WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Don Grossman
Hey there As we get larger and larger pipes in to feed our customers what are people doing with the excess outbound capacity? Thanks Don WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Servers...game servers, voice (teamspeak/ventrilo) servers...? Maybe help the community with content distribution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Don Grossman d...@willitsonline.com wrote: Hey

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 12:50 -0700, Don Grossman wrote: As we get larger and larger pipes in to feed our customers what are people doing with the excess outbound capacity? You could set up a hosting service. Maybe a remote backup service (not ON your network, but offsite somewhere). --

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
We worked with a bunch of Indian tribes in the Grand Canyon several years back - we learned that you shouldn't give them terms, cause if they don't pay, since they're a sovereign nation, you can't sue them...your only recourse is declare war -Charles From: motor...@afmug.com

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Travis Johnson
Ya we currently have over 200Mbps of available outgoing bandwidth available and we already do hosting and co-location. :( Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: Servers...game servers, voice (teamspeak/ventrilo) servers...? Maybe help the community with content distribution. Josh

[WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread lakeland
OK. Not being the computer genius that I want to be can anyone give me an economical lead on Windows XP Pro SP3 operating system which is legal and valid. I need programs for a handful of machines Tnx -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread lakeland
Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Charles Wu (CTI) c...@cticonnect.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010

Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Newegg has home OEM... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116583cm_re=windows_xp-_-32-116-583-_-Product Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:12 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK. Not

Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 15:12, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK. Not being the computer genius that I want to be can anyone give me an economical lead on Windows XP Pro SP3 operating system which is legal and valid. I need programs for a handful of machines You can still buy OEM media and

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread MDK
I tried to, but it fell through.They chose to spend a HUGE amount of money for Fiber to the curb and try to administer it themselves, rather than about 15% of the cost for me to bring in broadband and maintain it. As far as I know, it has been a disaster, but they're now so invested in it

Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread jp
I put 3 phase into my datacenter because I have a three phase generator and I knew eventually my load would be too big for a 1-phase generator and potentially too big for a 1-phase service. I know of no reason why it would handle lightning any differently. It has a neutral/ground just like

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Travis Johnson
The reservation in our area put an actual ordinance in effect that bans all outdoor antennas on any structure (including their homes, sheds, garages, barns, etc.). We still do installs there (along with 2 or 3 other providers), but technically they could enforce it. The reason? Because they

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Rick Harnish
These are all great suggestions I will arm myself with. I don't know whether it will help but it can't hurt. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] MS Sys7 connection Problem, need help

2010-08-13 Thread Ron Wallace
All, Since the last week of July we have had a number, 8-10 now, of customers that have MicroSoft System 7 on thier PC's, and they cannot connect to the Canopy network. After configuring the Local Area Connection properly, when the browser is open the 'local area connection' looses access to

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
This seems to be a very typical scenario from most people I've talked to. I've tried working with the tribe and haven't gotten very far despite 12 meetings alone with the Tribal Utility Commission. I've taken the tact now that I work with the communities just like we've done in any other

Re: [WISPA] MS Sys7 connection Problem, need help

2010-08-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 16:08, Ron Wallace rwall...@newgenet.net wrote: All, Since the last week of July we have had a number, 8-10 now, of customers that have MicroSoft System 7 on thier PC's, and they cannot connect to the Canopy network. After configuring the Local Area Connection

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Grounding

2010-08-13 Thread RC
got some feelers out on the forums.. I'll let you know. RC chris cooper wrote: We've had numerous storms here over the past couple of weeks. We have replaced a box full of Nano and Bullets. This leads me to believe that our install practices might be improved. How are others

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Travis, I totally understand since 2003 I have tried to get on tribal hills and unless I piggyback on an existing tower all I can get is we want to do Internet ourselves, I check back in every two to three years, same thing. I should feel lucky they haven't tried to ban us. Forbes On

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 08/13/2010 04:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: The reservation in our area put an actual ordinance in effect that bans all outdoor antennas on any structure (including their homes, sheds, garages, barns, etc.). We still do installs there (along with 2 or 3 other providers), but technically

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
One thing to keep in mind when thinking about strong arming any tribal entity, they have plenty of lawyers on staff who are more than happy to set in court and argue sovereign immunity as long as you want. You may win in the end, but at what cost? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Leon

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Brian Webster
No preemption for a sovereign nation... rules don't apply to them Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:42 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Jack Unger
Gosh, I just do not understand how some native American peoples could feel so "territorial". What's up with that??? Forbes Mercy wrote: Travis, I totally understand since 2003 I have tried to get on tribal hills and unless I piggyback on an existing tower all I can get is "we want to

Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread DJ Anderson
Get a TechNet account. 300 Bucks a year and you get basically 10 licenses of all new and old Microsoft products, you even get licenses for the new stuff that they release. http://technet.microsoft.com/ -DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 17:20, DJ Anderson d...@shelbybb.com wrote: Get a TechNet account. 300 Bucks a year and you get basically 10 licenses of all new and old Microsoft products, you even get licenses for the new stuff that they release. With the (significant) caveat that they're for

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread MDK
Mind you that sovereign part only applies to whatever they wish to apply it to. They're not at all, when it suits them. IN this, they have their cake, eat it, and expect us to give them an unlimited supply, as well. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy

Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

2010-08-13 Thread DJ Anderson
Didn't know that... Hasn't stopped me. DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Host a server for speedtest.net Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread MDK
YOu have it all wrong. Suppose you live in a land where your culture is incapable of dealing with the rest of the world around it, but the invaders are bleeding hearts who give you land and let you try to continue your incompatible culture unchanged in a world where it is outdated, outmoded

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Jerry Richardson
Wow. Can we kill this thread now before it erupts in flames? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: YOu have it all wrong. Suppose you live in a land where your culture is incapable of dealing with the rest of the world around it,

[WISPA] OS Humor

2010-08-13 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
http://www.google.com/buzz/thastoner/T8pswjDZNmW/How-Fanboys-See-Operating-Systems hehe WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] OS Humor

2010-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Excellent! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: http://www.google.com/buzz/thastoner/T8pswjDZNmW/How-Fanboys-See-Operating-Systems hehe

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Travis Johnson
Already do takes 1-2Mbps at peak times. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Host a server for speedtest.net Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 *From:*

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
Oh I don't blame them per se we all have a level of protectionism for what is ours, it's human nature. They have an advantage and they use it, I know few CEO's that wouldn't. On 8/13/2010 3:18 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Gosh, I just do not understand how some native American peoples could feel so

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
Rather than kill the thread, can we drag it back on topic, kicking and screaming if we have to. It appears that we have a group of people that are trying to put together some action that will bring broadband to reservations and they have asked for WISPA's input. Whether they can be successful

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Philip Dorr
Host a Linux (Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, ect) Bittorrent seed box? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Already do takes 1-2Mbps at peak times. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Host a server for speedtest.net Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O.

Re: [WISPA] Broadband work with Indian Reservation

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
About six years or so I assisted several members of the Tuscarawas tribe on their reservation outside of Niagara Falls, New York in getting just basic dial up speeds via their tethered cell phones. (I was considered a genius for that basic work around) The council elders banned phone lines on

Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
Making Smores. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth Hey there As we get larger and

Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question.......

2010-08-13 Thread Robert West
Thanks, man. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Electrical Question... I put 3 phase into my datacenter because I have a three