Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I've read your blogs and have been keeping up with them. What I can't seem to find is the ULS registrations for the actual earth satellite stations. It seems like most other ULS entires, they have a contact address and a person's name. I did a Geosearch of Orange County, FL (the Sprint Communications Orlando, FL county) using Frequencies 3500 to 5000mhz (All Service Types), and found nothing but a cancelled point to point license for ATT. Check out http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/General_Menu_Reports/filenum.cfm to search by file number. I'm reading over the applications now. Lots of good info which you will need for base station placement calculations (try saying that 3 times fast) located appendix D of the frequency rules document. I don't know the formal name of that document. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Willing to Speak? Deadline is Sat.
Would love to do that. Let me know what is needed from our side. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com http://www.apertonet.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. _ From: John McDowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Willing to Speak? Deadline is Sat. I believe we need a 2.5 ghz opportunity forum. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would be happy to speak on the 3650 panel, if there are still slots available, to give a secondary vendor perspective. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com http://www.apertonet.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Willing to Speak? Deadline is Sat. I think that there should probably be a few more speakers. The ones listed are good, but it takes a variety to get people to come back. No one's gonna spend the money that ISPCon costs just to hear the same things over again. marlon - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone Willing to Speak? Deadline is Sat. Anyone have strong opinions on things they have done to be more successful? Maybe you want to share some of your successful ideas with the others. Could be customer satisfaction and support, could be marketing techniques, etc. George Peter R. wrote: Well, just 4 more days to go. Can you spread the word that we are looking for speakers for the WISPA tracks at ISPCON please? http://wikihost.org/wikis/wispa6 W1) Wirelss Regulation An update on regulatory issues and your WISP. contacting: Jack Unger, Ask-Wi, Inc. and WISPA contacting: probably Steve Coran W2) Alex here . . This session is basically open. I've labeled it new technologies. Are there any new technologies of interest? Smart radios, gigabit radios, 60 GHz spectrum radios, etc. Speakers: ??? W3) Using Used Equipment WISPs buying used equipment run into a wide variety of issues. Some are commonplace, some are rare, but you need to know about all of them. panel: Matt Larsen W4: Advanced Network Monitoring for WISPs of all Sizes Basic network monitoring is just that, basic. You know what is up and what is down. This advanced session will go beyond these basics and the basics of installing MRTG, Nagios, WhatUpGold etc., and focus more on the specific data that various sized WISPs are collecting about their networks. We will also cover the more important issue of what to do with this data and some of the systems and procedures used to manage this advanced data.Bring your questions there will be plenty of QA. Speakers: W5: Manage Your Network (Don't Let it Manage You) Today's WISPs need to be able to manage all aspects of their business in today's rapidly evolving marketplace with simplified tools. These panelists will show some of the tools they use or have developed to make sure that their business practices are conducted professionally and efficiently. As WISP businesses grow, the need for well documented network and client information is essential for the future success and scalability of their networks. Speakers: Rick Harnish W6: Avoiding the 50 Most Common Mistakes (that Experienced WISPs Have Already Made) Successful WISP owners are an independent, strong-minded group of entrepreneurs. The WISP business today presents many challenges and WISP operators need to be strong in order to survive. However just being strong isn't enough. WISPs also need to be smart. Strong and smart WISPs learn from the mistakes that other WISPs have already made and incorporate that learning as quickly as possible into their own organization. Smart businesspeople know that there is no glory and no profit in re-inventing the wheel. Attend this session to learn the 50 most common mistakes that experienced WISP operators have already made. You will then be free to choose to apply this
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
On the EBS issue- There are several operators out there who have obtained EBS licenses as well. It just requires the work and time invested into entering a deal with your school districts that own the right to the spectrum. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:42 PM, John McDowell wrote: Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO I can't agree with your perspective. WiMAX has already been established internationally. Regardless of how WiMAX does in the US, it will continue to be relevant internationally as a standard. Further, many wireless operators (my company included) compete successfully with att and Verizon in urban markets today. I don't see how them deploying in rural markets is any different. Sure, but only on a fixed basis. It is nothing compared to the International cellular market. If you look at the International Mobile WiMax footprint, its pretty dern small. When Verizon and ATT launch their LTE products, I believe you will feel differently about them. Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. I could see that. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. I don't see how the merger does that. Any WISP who wants to enter the licensed arena can do so today. With most EBS licenses gobbled up by Sprint and Clearwire, how can we WISPs enter that market, aside from EBS Whitespace? And what technology is the ony threat to LTE? (WiMax) -Matt -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
I haven't studied this much, but did I see somewhere that existing BRS (was MMDS) holders had some sort of priority on EBS licenses. Is that the case, and if so, does this make it worse? Randy Jeff Booher wrote: On the EBS issue- There are several operators out there who have obtained EBS licenses as well. It just requires the work and time invested into entering a deal with your school districts that own the right to the spectrum. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:42 PM, John McDowell wrote: Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO I can't agree with your perspective. WiMAX has already been established internationally. Regardless of how WiMAX does in the US, it will continue to be relevant internationally as a standard. Further, many wireless operators (my company included) compete successfully with att and Verizon in urban markets today. I don't see how them deploying in rural markets is any different. Sure, but only on a fixed basis. It is nothing compared to the International cellular market. If you look at the International Mobile WiMax footprint, its pretty dern small. When Verizon and ATT launch their LTE products, I believe you will feel differently about them. Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. I could see that. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. I don't see how the merger does that. Any WISP who wants to enter the licensed arena can do so today. With most EBS licenses gobbled up by Sprint and Clearwire, how can we WISPs enter that market, aside from EBS Whitespace? And what technology is the ony threat to LTE? (WiMax) -Matt -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Corn
1. Very high gain 120 degree sector capable of handling several hundred watts 2. High output radio (even just an RF noise generator would work) 3. Butter 4. Boots 5. Very fast get away vehicle Adjust your high gain antenna to point at the corn fields. Crank the RF generator up. Throw your boots on and start running toward your get away vehicle, sprinkling butter and gathering as you go. Should take care of the corn issue. Be sure to hide from the farmers for the next few weeks. Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Corn I have had a rash of 2.4 subs who's signals for no reason at all seem to be getting worse and worse signals. Clients starting out at a -72 are at -80 now. Some of them have issues that they have a canopy of trees at their location so I can be up real high. And have worked fine for a year. The only change is that they have Corn planted in the field across the road where there was a different crop last year. They still have a perfect Line of site. Is the Corn actually pulling that much signal out of the air? One of the clients I was able to raise the radio 5 feet due to they got rid of a tree. The signal improved some but not the 8 points they once had. These are all on different towers. Any other idea other tan the corn. Steve Barnes Executive Manager RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Patrick Leary Sageni WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
Patrick Leary wrote: Great link on 3650: http://www.sageni.com/raw%20knowledge_3650.html :) Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
Nice... So Sageni = Sage Insider? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Patrick Leary Sageni WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
WiMAX is for the birds as it exists today. It's for POTS replacement and low bandwidth customers in third world countries, not the USA where we need to be providing bigger pipes. Mobile WiMAX in anything but true licensed spectrum is for the birds as well. Just not enough power to make it effective. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:42 PM, John McDowell wrote: Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO I can't agree with your perspective. WiMAX has already been established internationally. Regardless of how WiMAX does in the US, it will continue to be relevant internationally as a standard. Further, many wireless operators (my company included) compete successfully with att and Verizon in urban markets today. I don't see how them deploying in rural markets is any different. Sure, but only on a fixed basis. It is nothing compared to the International cellular market. If you look at the International Mobile WiMax footprint, its pretty dern small. When Verizon and ATT launch their LTE products, I believe you will feel differently about them. Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. I could see that. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. I don't see how the merger does that. Any WISP who wants to enter the licensed arena can do so today. With most EBS licenses gobbled up by Sprint and Clearwire, how can we WISPs enter that market, aside from EBS Whitespace? And what technology is the ony threat to LTE? (WiMax) -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
If anyone does... no one does that really would benefit me. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On the EBS issue- There are several operators out there who have obtained EBS licenses as well. It just requires the work and time invested into entering a deal with your school districts that own the right to the spectrum. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:42 PM, John McDowell wrote: Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO I can't agree with your perspective. WiMAX has already been established internationally. Regardless of how WiMAX does in the US, it will continue to be relevant internationally as a standard. Further, many wireless operators (my company included) compete successfully with att and Verizon in urban markets today. I don't see how them deploying in rural markets is any different. Sure, but only on a fixed basis. It is nothing compared to the International cellular market. If you look at the International Mobile WiMax footprint, its pretty dern small. When Verizon and ATT launch their LTE products, I believe you will feel differently about them. Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. I could see that. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. I don't see how the merger does that. Any WISP who wants to enter the licensed arena can do so today. With most EBS licenses gobbled up by Sprint and Clearwire, how can we WISPs enter that market, aside from EBS Whitespace? And what technology is the ony threat to LTE? (WiMax) -Matt -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Hey John, I didn't notice your company on the vendor member list? Are you a vendor member or just plugging your company free on this list? Maybe I just missed http://www.wirelessconnections.net when I did the search for the vendor members? Maybe it was my bad for missing it? Thanx Jim John Rock wrote: Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. So does nagios and cacti. They are also open source so you can write any plug-in you need including non-snmp device checks. Cacti has tons of premade templates that can be found all over the net. I use nagios to check to see if linux boxes are up to date and a variety of other non-typical, non snmp monitoring situations. I also have the ability to provision the information to the NMS systems from my billing system so I can setup all of my information in one location and push it out to all of the other systems. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The dude is cool, our network admin has been playing with it. We all have a copy on our machines we mess with too. I like how it will show you real time bandwidth of a link. Lots of information there. But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node network. We use Nagios and Cacti. Nagios even has a plug in for Firefox that sits on the bottom of the browser. Jim Patient wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Corn
CUTE Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Corn 1. Very high gain 120 degree sector capable of handling several hundred watts 2. High output radio (even just an RF noise generator would work) 3. Butter 4. Boots 5. Very fast get away vehicle Adjust your high gain antenna to point at the corn fields. Crank the RF generator up. Throw your boots on and start running toward your get away vehicle, sprinkling butter and gathering as you go. Should take care of the corn issue. Be sure to hide from the farmers for the next few weeks. Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Corn I have had a rash of 2.4 subs who's signals for no reason at all seem to be getting worse and worse signals. Clients starting out at a -72 are at -80 now. Some of them have issues that they have a canopy of trees at their location so I can be up real high. And have worked fine for a year. The only change is that they have Corn planted in the field across the road where there was a different crop last year. They still have a perfect Line of site. Is the Corn actually pulling that much signal out of the air? One of the clients I was able to raise the radio 5 feet due to they got rid of a tree. The signal improved some but not the 8 points they once had. These are all on different towers. Any other idea other tan the corn. Steve Barnes Executive Manager RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Jim- Personally, I like Nagios because you can make it monitor literally -anything-. In a previous life, we had it monitoring the server room door. If it was open for more than ~5 minutes, it nagged us. Then again, it all depends on how much you care. For me, these days caring doesn't happen often so I'd probably use The Dude. ;-) -chris Jim Patient wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Maybe they aren't a vendor member and decided to share a resource that was relevant to the thread. Maybe they won't share on the next thread because of your response. Maybe neither of our messages should need to have been sent to the whole list. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Jim Patient wrote: Hey John, I didn't notice your company on the vendor member list? Are you a vendor member or just plugging your company free on this list? Maybe I just missed http://www.wirelessconnections.net when I did the search for the vendor members? Maybe it was my bad for missing it? Thanx Jim John Rock wrote: Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
George Rogato wrote: [ about The Dude ] But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node network. It's not quite real time - The Dude's bandwidth indicia on its maps update every 30 seconds or so. That's roughly how often MRTG and Cacti (and basically everything else) updates bandwidth graphs, by default, so the load should be vaguely comparable. I have a three-year-old Celeron monitoring basically every tower on my small network (there's about 250 items in The Dude's devices list), and on that same server an old copy of WhatsUp doing the same thing (it doesn't have as many features, but a much better IMO Web interface), and that server's CPU and bandwidth usage are both negligible (CPU is near-zero, bandwidth is a steady 100kbps all the time). The Dude can, relatively easily, be configured to do just about anything that any other SNMP client can handle. I've got it monitoring for errors on T1s, monitoring SNR on backhaul links, and so on. (This isn't different from any other good SNMP package, of course.) Honestly, the only issue I have with it (and it's a small one) is that, if your device uses something other than the standard MIBs for traffic counters, you can't put those pretty little traffic gauges on your maps directly. Fortunately, the only gear in my network exhibiting this quirk is Trango, and you can still make traffic graphs (you just have to go through some extra steps). Given that it's free software, a few little quirks are to be expected. :D David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The ability to push configs out from a central location is really a nice feature of Nagios/Cacti/MRTG. I also use Big Brother to monitor customer connections, and it is nice to have something that automatically pushes the configurations out whenever we make a change in the billing system - keeps everything in the same database. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Jeremy Davis wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. So does nagios and cacti. They are also open source so you can write any plug-in you need including non-snmp device checks. Cacti has tons of premade templates that can be found all over the net. I use nagios to check to see if linux boxes are up to date and a variety of other non-typical, non snmp monitoring situations. I also have the ability to provision the information to the NMS systems from my billing system so I can setup all of my information in one location and push it out to all of the other systems. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
I keep hearing Monte Python in my head, which would make you the Sage that says Ni. David Peterson WirelessGuys (sorry had to let my geek flag fly) On 8/1/08 10:17 AM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Sageni is a word creation combining Sage and Genie...most of all it was an open 6 letter domain name! On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice... So Sageni = Sage Insider? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Patrick Leary Sageni - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Also, just a note that I forgot to mention OpenNMS also handles SNMP traps very well and with little configuration, something that is a weakness in a lot of the free/open source applications which either simply don't or require some cumbersome configuration (like Nagios). -Clint On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Clint Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Charles...As I found out, Appendix D is just ONE way to do those calculations. Can you expand on this a bit? Is there another way they should be done? Or are there different conclusions one can reach by doing them differently (ie you follow the method in appendix d and the earth station uses some other method to invalidate your data)? Is this something to be concerned about? Thanks! Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Thanks. This looks promising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Go get and install CactiEZ. Once setup and working its easy to maintain. Our billing person enters all new units into cacti. - Matt Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
Nice Friday laugh David. I suppose there are worse things that could be conjured up. - Patrick On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:42 AM, David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I keep hearing Monte Python in my head, which would make you the Sage that says Ni. David Peterson WirelessGuys (sorry had to let my geek flag fly) On 8/1/08 10:17 AM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Sageni is a word creation combining Sage and Genie...most of all it was an open 6 letter domain name! On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice... So Sageni = Sage Insider? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Patrick Leary Sageni - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Patrick Leary Sageni Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 813.426.4230 skype: pleary WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
I haven't looked at Appendix D in a while, but I don't think it takes into account topology. Ground works really well at stopping noise. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Charles Wyble wrote: Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Charles...As I found out, Appendix D is just ONE way to do those calculations. Can you expand on this a bit? Is there another way they should be done? Or are there different conclusions one can reach by doing them differently (ie you follow the method in appendix d and the earth station uses some other method to invalidate your data)? Is this something to be concerned about? Thanks! Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] For those that didn't see it....
http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self+interference.html Hope it helps some folks out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it....
Thanks, Marlon Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self+interference.html Hope it helps some folks out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
It does have a browser interface :) -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Clint Ricker wrote: I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions?
[WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] Step-by-Step Guide for 3650 MHz License and New 900
I just ran across this in my archives. Thought some here might find it useful. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: ISP-List Sponsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon; Schafer; (509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: [isp-wireless] Step-by-Step Guide for 3650 MHz License and New 900 Hi folks, We have put together a vendor-neutral guide that walks you through the FCC process to obtain a nationwide 3.65 GHz license. It shows each step in the application and explains some vital things about the 3650 band that all WISPs should understand. Over the past week over 100 of your peers have downloaded it and it has earned nice compliments for making the process simple and clear. You can access the guide via the link below and it will be sent to you from a download service. Please note it is a large file (14 mbps) and be aware that a handful of people learned told us their filters flagged and caught it, so check there if you do not get it after requesting it. Also, commercial release of the much anticipated BreezeACCESS VL 900 (10k pps; 72 concurrent VoIP calls; 8 mbps net; 5 MHz channels; hardware-based AES; layer 1, 2 and 3 prioritization; etc. woohoo!) is just around the corner and we can now begin to release fuller detail. And the VL900 will be available via the AlvarionCOMNET program, which provides for massive discounts on CPE. We are also going to jump start things with an aggressive Starter Kit promotion. Here is the link to access the 900 MHz information. BreezeACCESS VL900 information: http://www.alvarion.com/VL900preliminarydatasheet/?ref=WISPlists_2 Step-by-Step Guide to Secure a Nationwide 3650 MHz License: http://www.alvarion.com/3650licenseguidedownload/?ref=ALVRhpbanner We wish you much success, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] Step-by-Step Guide for 3650 MHz License and New 900
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I just ran across this in my archives. Thought some here might find it useful. Fantastic link. Great overview. Thanks for sharing. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Charles Wyble wrote: Yes. Cacti is a nice solution, although it had a bit of a learning curve and setup time. MRTG was easier and quicker for me. (cfgmaker and indexmaker and you are done). Nagios is also nice as well. See something like http://www.groundworkopensource.com/ Ditto on what Charles says about Groundworks. IMO, it does what almost all network admins need right out of the box. I've heard really good things about OpenNMS, as well. But I know know it as well as I know Cacti/Nagios. I've heard it's a good tool with good community support, but I have yet to confirm. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. In defense of Cacti, it's not a UNIX guru that you have to be (Cacti installs on Windows), but you have to make sure your web and database stack are working properly (e.g. Apache / MySQL) to get it installed. Once it's installed, then you just need to understand a few rrdtool concepts, some MIB/SNMP stuff (if applicable), and read through the documentation. If you'd like, there are tons of great 3rd party plugins for it. Programs like Weathermap are very cool, as well. http://www.network-weathermap.com/ HTH! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it....
You bet. Hope it does some good Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it Thanks, Marlon Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] For those that didn't see it http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self+interference.html Hope it helps some folks out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] Step-by-Step Guide for 3650 MHz License and New 900
Thank Bob Cannon from the FCC. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [isp-wireless] Step-by-Step Guide for 3650 MHz License and New 900 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I just ran across this in my archives. Thought some here might find it useful. Fantastic link. Great overview. Thanks for sharing. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
You can load it on RouterOS as a server. We do this quite a bit for remote dude agents we use 433s. Use them to monitor hotspot networks behind firewalls and NAT from public dude servers. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
* Charles Wyble wrote, On 8/1/2008 11:08 AM: Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: Charles...As I found out, Appendix D is just ONE way to do those calculations. Can you expand on this a bit? Is there another way they should be done? Or are there different conclusions one can reach by doing them differently (ie you follow the method in appendix d and the earth station uses some other method to invalidate your data)? Is this something to be concerned about? Hi Charles...from my talks with the WTB folks they indicated that Appendix D was just one way to get there from here so to speak. I do not know if COmsearch et al are using this procedure or something else. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mailing List Preferences Error
Joshua Rowe wrote: Just wondered if anyone else had this happen and if the list management was aware. Well, now /everyone/ knows I'm playing with mod_security rules. :P David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
We have not deployed it yet. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
Yeah. They were too busy being amazed at the small size! :) We are geeks. We don't put anything into production without taking pictures, blogging/twittering about it and bragging. Then we start to think about playing with the new toy ... er improving customer satisfaction through aggressive technology deployment. Sorry. It's Friday. Couldn't resist. :D Matt Liotta wrote: We have not deployed it yet. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.2 Canopy Advantage AP for sale
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Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even .25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
The Redline rep at the meeting I attended yesterday said "don't use the indoor models... they suck" just for whatever that's worth... ;) Travis Microserv Eric Muehleisen wrote: Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even .25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
I am sure the Redline rep meant that they suck because the FCC has limited to 200mw of power. They are capable of 24dbm of power to drive their 8dbi antenna. One of the things I want to test is the difference in performance between the current FCC power limit and what it should be if the FCC treated it like the fixed station that we want it to be. I expect that with the right power the performance will be interesting. Then the only issue will be convincing the FCC to re- certify for indoor fixed deployment. At the end of the day, an indoor fixed unit installed by a professional could offer an operator decreased installation time and expense. Not the mention the obvious gain in avoid landlord access/ real estate agreement issues. I would think WISPA members would really want the FCC to understand that indoor != mobile. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: The Redline rep at the meeting I attended yesterday said don't use the indoor models... they suck just for whatever that's worth... ;) Travis Microserv Eric Muehleisen wrote: Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even . 25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
I'd love for that to happen...so many apartment complexes within a mile of my towers... On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure the Redline rep meant that they suck because the FCC has limited to 200mw of power. They are capable of 24dbm of power to drive their 8dbi antenna. One of the things I want to test is the difference in performance between the current FCC power limit and what it should be if the FCC treated it like the fixed station that we want it to be. I expect that with the right power the performance will be interesting. Then the only issue will be convincing the FCC to re- certify for indoor fixed deployment. At the end of the day, an indoor fixed unit installed by a professional could offer an operator decreased installation time and expense. Not the mention the obvious gain in avoid landlord access/ real estate agreement issues. I would think WISPA members would really want the FCC to understand that indoor != mobile. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: The Redline rep at the meeting I attended yesterday said don't use the indoor models... they suck just for whatever that's worth... ;) Travis Microserv Eric Muehleisen wrote: Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even . 25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
All, I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for most residential customers. Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about customers with pptp VPNs having problems. From what I undersand, isn't PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly?? Is there something inherent about it that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat? In our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router connected to fiber also does nat. All tips and network wisdom is appreciated! Thanks, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
In your Mikrotik Service Ports tab (under IP Firewall), be sure that PPtP is enabled. That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the MT NAT. Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows other ports through (GRE or something). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? All, I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for most residential customers. Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about customers with pptp VPNs having problems. From what I undersand, isn't PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly?? Is there something inherent about it that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat? In our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router connected to fiber also does nat. All tips and network wisdom is appreciated! Thanks, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
Yes I have that enabled already. In fact, on other MT systems that carry the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe. Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP, in these firewall 'helpers'. My border system is version 3.10. I need to make progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to other hotspots and have no trouble, so my network is to blame. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In your Mikrotik Service Ports tab (under IP Firewall), be sure that PPtP is enabled. That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the MT NAT. Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows other ports through (GRE or something). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? All, I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for most residential customers. Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about customers with pptp VPNs having problems. From what I undersand, isn't PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly?? Is there something inherent about it that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat? In our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router connected to fiber also does nat. All tips and network wisdom is appreciated! Thanks, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
In forums.mikrotik.com I found this... http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1t=21095p=107469hilit=nat+p ptp+helper#p107469 It looks like there is an issue since 3.0 that they have removed IP Helpers. I will keep looking. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? Yes I have that enabled already. In fact, on other MT systems that carry the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe. Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP, in these firewall 'helpers'. My border system is version 3.10. I need to make progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to other hotspots and have no trouble, so my network is to blame. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In your Mikrotik Service Ports tab (under IP Firewall), be sure that PPtP is enabled. That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the MT NAT. Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows other ports through (GRE or something). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? All, I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for most residential customers. Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about customers with pptp VPNs having problems. From what I undersand, isn't PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly?? Is there something inherent about it that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat? In our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router connected to fiber also does nat. All tips and network wisdom is appreciated! Thanks, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
Actually, They didn't remove the IP helpers, they are built in. Try something for me. If you go to the IPFirewallService Ports page, disable (not delete) the PPtP port and see if that makes a difference. I had to disable the SIP one to allow SIP via the NAT interface. Let me know if it works. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? In forums.mikrotik.com I found this... http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1t=21095p=107469hilit=nat+p ptp+helper#p107469 It looks like there is an issue since 3.0 that they have removed IP Helpers. I will keep looking. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? Yes I have that enabled already. In fact, on other MT systems that carry the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe. Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP, in these firewall 'helpers'. My border system is version 3.10. I need to make progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to other hotspots and have no trouble, so my network is to blame. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In your Mikrotik Service Ports tab (under IP Firewall), be sure that PPtP is enabled. That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the MT NAT. Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows other ports through (GRE or something). Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips? All, I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for most residential customers. Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about customers with pptp VPNs having problems. From what I undersand, isn't PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly?? Is there something inherent about it that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat? In our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router connected to fiber also does nat. All tips and network wisdom is appreciated! Thanks, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The voodoo that I'm aware of is answering the questions in the setup, though I may be thinking of something else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
It's also severely limited in being a mobile unit. In 3650, mobile units are allowed significantly less EIRP because they could be moved into an exclusion zone without the network operator's knowledge or consent. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even .25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
From a purely technical perspective I am sure an argument could be made that an indoor device should be allowed to use higher power levels because it will not transmit unless under the control of an authorized base station. From a more practical perspective fears of possible cancer or other damage to human tissues, whether justified or not, are valid enough reason to avoid higher power levels in mobile devices. Scriv On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's also severely limited in being a mobile unit. In 3650, mobile units are allowed significantly less EIRP because they could be moved into an exclusion zone without the network operator's knowledge or consent. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even .25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Compensating nonsales personel
Hey Guys OT Question for this slow Saturday (although we are working with some lighting related failures) How do you guys compensate NON sales Staff on referrals and sales? Case is that we have a very industry connected IT Manager and he has lately closed very good deals. But I don't know how to compensate him. We Pay our Business Sales Exec. A base salary and commissions on each sales, basically we give him the first month of the customer mrc as commission. But the IT manager has been getting some great accounts lately due to his connections in the industry. Any Ideas are appreciated Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Compensating nonsales personel
Gino Villarini wrote: How do you guys compensate NON sales Staff on referrals and sales? While I don't make compensation decisions, I've seen non-sales staff get bonuses that around about 30% of their base income. Case is that we have a very industry connected IT Manager and he has lately closed very good deals. But I don't know how to compensate him. One way I have asked for compensation in the past is a bigger budget that I can use at my discretion (books, new laptop, phone, training, etc.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
John, I fail to understand your logic on this matter. I see absolutely no benefit to WISPs for support of a Sprint/Clearwire merger. What does Sroint/Clearwire have to do with the success of WiMax? I don't see how WISP's Wimax benefit from WimAx being made for a spectrum WISPs can't use (2.5g). I don't see how deminishing WISP's uniqueness by Enabling Clearwire to succeed, helps WISPs. Without the merger of a new Clearwire, Clearwire will go bankrupt, and leave the market for WISPs to serve. A national Clearwire takes away the need for Comcast/Googles and other Super Companies from having a need to partner with Local WISP or RollUp WISP groups. The lack of a National Giant doing WiMax, just means manufacturers will have more motive to make products for WISPs to meet their goals. When the potential buyers can't afford $15,000 APs, the price will drop to what WISPs can afford. WISPs are not low a volume to support price reduction of WIMax. Wimax's inflated price is based on what the Market will allow.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:38 PM, John McDowell wrote: I think it is a boost for anyone wanting to deploy mobile wimax and bid on 2.5ghz spectrum. How does the merger achieve that? Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO The real focus that WISPA should take is ensuring that WISPs get a chance at the remaining spectrum available. How would being for or against the merger achieve that? Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. The only way this is possible is if WISPs educate themselves on the possibilities and availability of Spectrum. Unfortunately, if we don't act now and present something to the FCC regarding the use of EBS whitespace, we may not get a chance at that Spectrum. Look at Xanadoo, Digital Bridge, KeyOn, WisperWireless, etc, etc. They all see the value of Mobile Wimax...but they have all taken a gamble until now. The merger just cut the risk in half... -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
Tom, your logic doesn't make sense to me either. 1. I mentioned before that the two largest entities pushing WiMax worldwide are Sprint and Clearwire, without their success MOBILE WiMax will fail, and LTE will prevail. If there is no one to build a WiMax network, the technology has no value. 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. 3. I don't think anything to do with Clearwire deminishes a WISPs uniqueness. 4. Clearwire may have gone bankrupt over time, I doubt they will now. 5. I doubt the likes of Google and Comcast would have ever partnered with a WISP other than a billion dollar WISP like Clearwire. 6. Mobile WiMax equipment is more in the $100,000s per cell, so the vendors are going to have to drop their prices a little bit more than you think for WISPs, and the fact that they drop prices in the event of a Clearwire bankruptcy deal is because they realize the equipment isn't as valuable as it would have been if Clearwire had succeeded in building a nationwide mobile WiMax network. 7. If you're talking about fixed wireless, it will be around for as long as vendors are around. But with WiMax, your chances of passing the obscelescence curve are better, because WISPs actually have an opportunity to enter that arena, and set themselves up nicely for Clearwire to connect the dots between larger cities. LTE is not so nice...you and I can't play on their field, unless we build WiMax. Verizon is running marketing campaigns in my territory now for Wireless Broadband, just think of what it will be like when ATT does it with everything bundled, and speeds up to 10megs on a USB? JMO :-) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I fail to understand your logic on this matter. I see absolutely no benefit to WISPs for support of a Sprint/Clearwire merger. What does Sroint/Clearwire have to do with the success of WiMax? I don't see how WISP's Wimax benefit from WimAx being made for a spectrum WISPs can't use (2.5g). I don't see how deminishing WISP's uniqueness by Enabling Clearwire to succeed, helps WISPs. Without the merger of a new Clearwire, Clearwire will go bankrupt, and leave the market for WISPs to serve. A national Clearwire takes away the need for Comcast/Googles and other Super Companies from having a need to partner with Local WISP or RollUp WISP groups. The lack of a National Giant doing WiMax, just means manufacturers will have more motive to make products for WISPs to meet their goals. When the potential buyers can't afford $15,000 APs, the price will drop to what WISPs can afford. WISPs are not low a volume to support price reduction of WIMax. Wimax's inflated price is based on what the Market will allow.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:38 PM, John McDowell wrote: I think it is a boost for anyone wanting to deploy mobile wimax and bid on 2.5ghz spectrum. How does the merger achieve that? Without Sprint and Clearwire, WiMax has no chance at success, which leaves ATT and Verizon ( who will come into Rural Markets eventually) and their LTE plans. To not support Clearwire, is to support ATT and Verizon, two companies that will hurt WISPs more in the long run that Sprint and Clearwire ever will. IMO The real focus that WISPA should take is ensuring that WISPs get a chance at the remaining spectrum available. How would being for or against the merger achieve that? Being for or against the merger will not achieve that. This should be a separate tactic of WISPA, but coupled with support for the merger. The merger solidifies WiMax's chance for success in America and abroad and opens up opportunities for WISPs to enter the licensed arena and to one day offer mobile services on their networks, thus creating the opportunity for added revenue streams from different types of service offerings as well as roaming. It also makes for an attractive exit strategy, if that is anyone's plan. The only way this is possible is if WISPs educate themselves on the possibilities and availability of Spectrum. Unfortunately, if we don't act now and present something to the FCC regarding the use of EBS whitespace, we may not get a chance at that Spectrum. Look at Xanadoo, Digital Bridge, KeyOn, WisperWireless, etc, etc. They all see the value of Mobile Wimax...but they have all taken a gamble until now. The merger just cut the risk in half... -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST
I just deployed my backup link and took a direct hit on a tower with two Redline PTPs Anybody have a Redline AN80i 5.4 and 5.8 in stock that I could drive to pick up? I live in NE Alabama? C. Wu, do you have anything in Atlanta? Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST
John, We have Ligowave PTPs available in GA at our warehouse (Concord, GA). I think we also have a couple of integrated units in our office in ATL. If you need for us to meet you somewhere in between we could do that too. -Hal -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED], wisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:18:41 -0500 I just deployed my backup link and took a direct hit on a tower with two Redline PTPs Anybody have a Redline AN80i 5.4 and 5.8 in stock that I could drive to pick up? I live in NE Alabama? C. Wu, do you have anything in Atlanta? Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST
Wow, talk about customer care! Would you meet us in between too? Let See... halfway between ATL and San Juan, would be smack right in downtown Habana, Cuba!!! :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST John, We have Ligowave PTPs available in GA at our warehouse (Concord, GA). I think we also have a couple of integrated units in our office in ATL. If you need for us to meet you somewhere in between we could do that too. -Hal -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED], wisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:18:41 -0500 I just deployed my backup link and took a direct hit on a tower with two Redline PTPs Anybody have a Redline AN80i 5.4 and 5.8 in stock that I could drive to pick up? I live in NE Alabama? C. Wu, do you have anything in Atlanta? Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8..FAST
Wow, talk about customer support! Would you meet us halfway too? Hmmm halfway to PR should be right in Habana, Cuba!!! gino -Original Message- From: Harold Bledsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST John, We have Ligowave PTPs available in GA at our warehouse (Concord, GA). I think we also have a couple of integrated units in our office in ATL. If you need for us to meet you somewhere in between we could do that too. -Hal -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED], wisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Direct Hit! ...NEED two Redline AN80s 5.4 and 5.8 ..FAST Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:18:41 -0500 I just deployed my backup link and took a direct hit on a tower with two Redline PTPs Anybody have a Redline AN80i 5.4 and 5.8 in stock that I could drive to pick up? I live in NE Alabama? C. Wu, do you have anything in Atlanta? Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Dude is very simple. It combines the monitoring and notification settings of Nagios in with the link and notification information of MRTG. All in a slick graphic interface with multiple maps, drill down capabilities, etc. You can run it on a RouterOS device or any windows box. It runs just fine on my Ubuntu laptop under wine. I would agree the web interface is somewhat lacking, but it does show some great information as well as gives you the ability to set it once, and then auto refresh for outages and such. We have several clients that have some PCs with 2-3 Dual video cards with lots of information displaying. heck we have another customer with their PC plugged into there PA system for the paging in the office. Plays sounds when backhauls go down so that they can stop playing pong and fix something. Dennis Mike Hammett wrote: The voodoo that I'm aware of is answering the questions in the setup, though I may be thinking of something else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] The PDF I mentioned
I was searching for information on grandfathered earth stations and came across www.comsearch.com/files/PA-102473-EN_Extended_C-Band_Protection_3650-3700.pdf Our friends at comsearch. :) -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The PDF I mentioned
* Charles Wyble wrote, On 8/3/2008 11:54 AM: I was searching for information on grandfathered earth stations and came across www.comsearch.com/files/PA-102473-EN_Extended_C-Band_Protection_3650-3700.pdf Our friends at comsearch. :) Comsearch is in the business of protection in addition to other things. But the protection folks don't seem to want to send business to the other side of Comsearch. Long story still unraveling. ldz WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
Wouldn't all the leases that were worth anything already snapped up? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
You say that as if Sprint and Clearwire have not already bought up everything. As far as I can tell, at least in the three states around me, they have. EVERYTHING. They have it all. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
In my opinion, no. There are two still available in my coverage area...and the other part of my coverage is whitespace. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't all the leases that were worth anything already snapped up? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
Whitespace? The last time I investigated, the area I am in is divided up into little boxes and all of the former holders had leased to Sprint or Clearwire. The box I am in had all of the holders either actively using, or leasing. I could find no information on there being any unallocated spectrum. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire Don't know where you live, but I doubt it. There is also Whitespace available in every state. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say that as if Sprint and Clearwire have not already bought up everything. As far as I can tell, at least in the three states around me, they have. EVERYTHING. They have it all. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
BUT... you can have the educational institution to get the license and then YOU build it out for them. In exchange for building it out for them, you are allowed to use it for customers. EXCELLENT public/private partnership. ryan On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I believe (and am probably wrong) the only 2.5 GHz space available is EBS. Only education institutions can get EBS. They can't get EBS for the sole purpose of leasing it out, but are allowed to for existing spectrum. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire Don't know where you live, but I doubt it. There is also Whitespace available in every state. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say that as if Sprint and Clearwire have not already bought up everything. As far as I can tell, at least in the three states around me, they have. EVERYTHING. They have it all. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
But... like he mentioned, almost all that space is gone. In my area a different company (BridgeMaxx) owns the 2.5ghz spectrum and is using it for internet service already. Of course, they paid millions of dollars for it, and their service is terrible (as we have a modem in our office for testing). Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: BUT... you can have the educational institution to get the license and then YOU build it out for them. In exchange for building it out for them, you are allowed to use it for customers. EXCELLENT public/private partnership. ryan On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I believe (and am probably wrong) the only 2.5 GHz space available is EBS. Only education institutions can get EBS. They can't get EBS for the sole purpose of leasing it out, but are allowed to for existing spectrum. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John McDowell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire Don't know where you live, but I doubt it. There is also Whitespace available in every state. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say that as if Sprint and Clearwire have not already bought up everything. As far as I can tell, at least in the three states around me, they have. EVERYTHING. They have it all. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: "John McDowell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire obtain a lease from an educational institution On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: "John McDowell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire 2. WISPs can use 2.5ghz spectrum and should. How? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you
[WISPA] IP based security system
I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
A good value system is WiLife by LukWerks. They were purchased by Logitech so I am not sure if the name stayed the same. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: [WISPA] IP based security system I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
I have used the Netbotz appliances before with great success. APC bought them a few years ago. Axis might be another option. Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:30 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] IP based security system I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT telnet
Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP based security system
The best system I've worked with is the Honeywell RapidEye. I've only used it for cameras, but it also does relay input/output for sensors and door locks. Runs $3-$10K depending on the I/O options and storage capacity. http://www.honeywellvideo.com/products/recorders/pc/index.html For stand alone cameras I know some people that have had success with Axis. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for recommendations of an IP based security system with high quality video. I believe PC based is what we're after for low cost and upgradability. I am not looking for a single camera, but a whole system with perhaps dozens of cameras. Most security systems I've seen (albeit I'm not really exposed to this industry) you can hardly tell the difference between a person and a dog on it's hind legs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT telnet
Can you set your TERM env variable to something different? I don't have a mikrotik to try it on, but if you set your TERM env variable to vt100 it should not use color Ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote: Sigh *no*... http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/v3.pdf (page 21) Console: Colors Console consumes less memory, it hasfaster startup and fast export time References to items, commands, prompts and exports are coloured Currently no way to turn colours off, except running under a dumb terminal ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the color features on the newer Mikrotik ROS versions when doing a telnet? It is messing up our remote telnet scripts because the color codes are being sent and the Net::Telnet perl module does not know how to deal with them. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Langseth System Administrator InvisiMax email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 218.745.6030 Cell: 701.739.1577 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Court Injunction
Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
By the way, we have been up there for 4 years - this HAM only recently increased the power in the last three weeks. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Motorola Canopy User Group' Subject: Court Injunction Is it possible to get an injunction against a HAM if he moved to a 900MHz frequency as is causing interference that would disrupt our ability to do business? I know he has a license and I don't however there must be some precedent that allows for commercial venture versus amateur radio. Any ideas? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in LA
Looking for service in LA, near the home depot center. If you service this area please email me. Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900mhz - Ham
It's my understanding that as long as the Ham operator is within his operating privileges, any interference with part 15 users or other NON-Licensed user/equipment, there is not much that can be done. I would however bring it to his attention and constructively work on a solution with him. Ham's are known to help as long as they are treated well. Solutions such as band pass filters, proper radio grounding and proper electrical grounding could alleviate some interference problems. Thank You, Lance Jahnke Defacto Wireless Distribution, LLC. 888.275.5159 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in LA
Louisiana? Los Angeles? Latin America? :-) Dustin Jurman wrote: Looking for service in LA, near the home depot center. If you service this area please email me. Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Where are u located Jerry? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
Since I have no case, a work around is the way to go IMO. I'm not interested in dragging this out. I do have a plan for a work-around and I am confident it will work. It's just a PITA. Thanks for the input __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Where are u located Jerry? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham
Yep, Hams OWN this band. We are simply visitors. - Original Message - From: Lance Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] 900mhz - Ham It's my understanding that as long as the Ham operator is within his operating privileges, any interference with part 15 users or other NON-Licensed user/equipment, there is not much that can be done. I would however bring it to his attention and constructively work on a solution with him. Ham's are known to help as long as they are treated well. Solutions such as band pass filters, proper radio grounding and proper electrical grounding could alleviate some interference problems. Thank You, Lance Jahnke Defacto Wireless Distribution, LLC. 888.275.5159 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
I got my HAM license about 9 years ago (gee its almost time to renew!) and I have never really used it. My original intent was to use it in a walkie-talkie type of way with my Dad... but besides the its cool I can talk to someone over the radio at this range, I never really saw the purpose... Of course I come from the Internet Generation :-) Daniel White - KC0GIR 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction And the ARC? Spew And amateur radio is dying. Its a fact. The last one left needs to shut off the lights. Just look at the hamfests. (I call them the land of the great unwashed) Numbers are diminishing all the time. Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs this year. And yes, I can say it. KD4RME Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones stinking up their phone booth. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Court Injunction
Well, I thought a filter might have killed the previous message since I hadn't seen it. Oh well... The original sentiment was the intended one... - Original Message - From: Michael Handiboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Court Injunction Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones stinking up their phone booth. too late chuck, you already hit 'send'... -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
I personally worked in the 911 system during 9-11 and I can say that most of the emergency traffic was self generated and duplicate to info that was already exchanged by other means. While I agree that they may have a place during emergencies I say that they should use 2 meters and 440 for emergency comm only and forfeit everything else above 50 Mhz. There is not a lot of experimental work going on out there on amateur spectrum and for what there is anyone could get an experimental license in other spectrum like Part 90 snd do the same thing. If there was no ARRL this conversation would be moot. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:53 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following: Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the planet. When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always get business done. At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km. At 903 MHz the distance record is 4,064 km. They bounce signals off the moon and launch their own satellites. Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day. Much of our progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by hams. They were here first and will be here last. Pardon the image but we are the ones farting in their phone booth. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction Jerry You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless you can show willful interference from he ham. From a business point of view anything is possible in court Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz and up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see if they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really accomplishes nothing these days Wow. That last paragraph should get the list warmed up. ;-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17 To: Jerry Richardson[EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User Group[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
