Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
Curious, I believe Towercoverage uses a form of Radio Mobile to create their maps. I have some experience with Radio Mobile, but does their coverage maps support dual-pol or slant for that matter? Would it make any difference in the in the outcome of the map? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Bob Web Offset Kim evdo.hs...@gmail.comwrote: Josh, One other thing you can do is a Twitter search for other wisps who would know. You'll find people that don't even know about our listserve here. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Clay Stewart cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote: Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can walk u through later today. Our websire customer lookup... http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223Acct=2910 On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile. There's all the same stupid interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same list. I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly. I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too. There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Robert Kim Web Offset Printing Hong Kong Tokyo Japan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qBSz0_Els http://sparkah.com/google 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 3650 Omni
Doesn't answer your question but, we've use splitters and sector antennas to get around the use of omni's. There are a couple of advantages to sector design. Downtilt being the most important. However, it does cost more tower rent and cable management can be a pain. We've used it with great success. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:55 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Just curious if others have deployed a 3650 Omni and to know if it was effective? We have a few sites that we use 3650 PTP and one with a 120 degree panel that cranks out some decent power. Of course we are always looking for areas that we can break up APs and get some RF separation. I ran into a competitor on the extreme north side of one of our competitors that has a customer using a M365 power bridge. From their registration on FCC the closest sites they have registered are over 20 miles away. Can this be done PtMP on 3650? I have a BH link doing 24 miles on Rockets but havent tried anything this distance PtMP. I assume they have a closer site that's not fully registered on the FCC site as of yet. Anyways, just curious if omni was real effective. Just more or less looking for areas to throw on 15 to 20 subs to break down some overloaded M2 M5 AP. And if so, are you using UBNT antennas or KP or other thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but there are several AP's that support dual-band operation inside an integrated unit. Ruckus and Ubiquity have integrated units that broadcast 2.4 and 5.7 simultaneously using the same or different SSID. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Sam w...@csilogan.com wrote: Good Morning, I believe I know the answer to this already, however my managers wanted me to ask. Has anyone ever heard of an access point that has two different frequencies (ie. 2.4 and 5.8) and each of their antennas integrated all into a single unit? The thought process behind this being to save on tower space and load. This isn't referring to a full duplex configuration used for ptp links where one frequency transmits while the other frequency listens. This would be for PTMP between the tower and CPE units. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450 Slow Interface
Run wireshark while on the GUI and see if anything interesting shows up On Thursday, January 2, 2014, heith petersen wrote: Since last week I have been struggling with a 450 AP, our first one. I don’t appear to be losing any performance, but the interface is struggling, taking almost 30 seconds to show the page after switching tabs. I am pumping 20 megs easily to 6 subs, 3 that are disabled. I was told by a vendor that there were some issues with the first run radios like this, however they have been working good, for the last year or whenever they came out. We updated the software this morning on all gear, AP SMs, with the same results. We switched out the AP today with one on the shelf with fresh firmware, with the same results. When these are on the bench they seem real responsive, but I am on the same subnet as the radios as well. I have 2 of these on a network 3 hours away that we connect and manage via routing via Mikrotik and act great. I don’t want to say that I have a network issue, which seems likely. I just wanted to see what others thought or if had similar issues thanks heith mnwireless -- Sent via mobile ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20130610-ruckus-adds-zoneflex-7781cm-access-point-to-its-portfolio $5k MSRP. Even at half that...ouch! On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber built out Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Zach Mann *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 10:30 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. It's not just Comcast, TW, Cox are also taking advantage of the simplicity of the newer 7781-CM Access Point. They are offering free wifi to existing clients for retention. Down the road cellular offloading 802.11u On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: That's one way to avoid pole attachment fees! LOL. What is Comcast trying to accomplish with these? Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 11/15/13, 9:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote: He's talking about these... (see attached) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on every corner clear LOS to every tower around. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The laws of physics work in your favor. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we all know things work better when its quiet. This used to worry me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually install the stuff). I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it will be another any way. Thats what gives us the edge every day, flexibility. We will work around it, we always do. I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will continue to work fine. Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a 20-30db directional one. Still sucks though, you drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum. Are you seeing any impact from them? On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner. Already seeing that in our areas do a wireless scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs now). Scott Carullo Technical Operations
Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap
upgrade instructions, examples and procedures here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/Trango_900.zip On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Terry White twh...@ueci.coop wrote: I had a trango M900 ap that got hit by lightning and I had to replace it. the one I replaced it with has an older firmware version and is randomly rebooting itself. After some research I found a newer firmware that is suppose to fix the problem but I can’t find step by step instructions on how to upload the firmware to the ap. My command line skills are not that great so any help would be greatly appreciated. ** ** Thanks ** ** Terry White United Services (800) 585 – 6454 816*261*9484 cell twh...@ueci.coop [image: WildBlue] http://www.unitedsky.net/WildBule/index.html [image: DIRECTV] http://www.unitedsky.net/DirecTV/index.html [image: United Sky] http://www.unitedsky.net/UnitedSky/index.html Your Local Satellite Professionals ** ** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image003.jpginline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Has Anyone seen this on 3.65
That sounds about right. Noise at -55 is awfully loud. They'd need to be right on top of you. -Eric On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Michael Geary mge...@greataukwireless.comwrote: Good Evening Christian, This had happened on some our APs. We had to replace them because of manufacturers defect that our AP cards were bleeding There is a pretty lengthy post on Ubiquiti's forums as well http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=33880 -- Michael Geary GAW High-Speed Internet 72 Shaker Rd. Enfield, CT 06082 www.GAW.com http://www.gaw.com/ Office: 877.543.8429 Direct: 413.203.4911 Cell:413.218.1446 Fax:877.816.7068 net...@gaw.com -- “The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and any attachments from your system. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Christian Palecek christ...@cybernet1.com wrote: We started having some issues with one of our ubiquiti 3.65 AP’s. Everything has been working great for a while but recently it runs horrible. Lot’s of packet loss and plenty of speed complaints. ** ** I ran a spectrum analysis from the AP itself and another we have on another tower about 10 miles WNW. We use serveral different types of 3.65 equipment, but this is the first time we have had issues with any of them. Everything is registered. Everything looked clean on the spectrum views before but now, not so much. ** ** Spectrum views attached. FromCor.png is the affected access point. ** ** -Christian Palecek Network Administrator Cybernet1, Inc. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wire shark !
The device should send an arbitrary ARP upon bootup. This can be captured
via Wireshark and viewed easily with ARP filter.
-Eric
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j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Are you saying the APs just randomly put packets out there?
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.netwrote:
Pretty sure the Trango does, I know the T-LNK 11's do.
On 08/31/2012 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
But it will not show if it doesn't put packets on the wire.
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On Aug 31, 2012 12:16 PM, Eric Williams {WISP}
w...@williamsteldata.com wrote:
If your looking for the IP ? plug the radio into a computer and run wire
shark. That has work for me ! you my need a cross over cable with Trango.
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Re: [WISPA] Wire shark !
It may not work for the device in question, but will in most cases.
-Eric
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wrote:
I've not seen that in my testing.
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The device should send an arbitrary ARP upon bootup. This can be captured
via Wireshark and viewed easily with ARP filter.
-Eric
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Are you saying the APs just randomly put packets out there?
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.netwrote:
Pretty sure the Trango does, I know the T-LNK 11's do.
On 08/31/2012 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
But it will not show if it doesn't put packets on the wire.
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On Aug 31, 2012 12:16 PM, Eric Williams {WISP}
w...@williamsteldata.com wrote:
If your looking for the IP ? plug the radio into a computer and run
wire
shark. That has work for me ! you my need a cross over cable with
Trango.
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Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor
Call your generator manufacturer or reseller and ask about a fault/run relay board. We ordered relay boards for our Kohler generators for only $200 ish. http://www.apelectric.com/GM53102-KP1-Kohler-Common-fault-relay-p/gm53102-kp1.htm The boards relay run/faults to a APC AP9631 card that is setup to email out or dump into SNMP or Syslog. -Eric On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Troy Settle tset...@thewiredroad.netwrote: We’ve recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found an affordable solution for monitoring them. Does anyone know of a simple product that will enable me to monitor these things? Everything I’ve found is super expensive. All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch. I’m not (yet) concerned about monitoring other metrics. ** ** Thanks, ** ** -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ** ** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers
Google Maps/Earth. Points to you to your towers. -Eric On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote: Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S. Just wanted to see what tools are available for wireless installers. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna
I have some experience. Hit me offlist. -Eric On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM, brandon jolley brandonjoll...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Any Trango 900 Users out there that might be able to help me with a issue I am working on? thanks Brandon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update
Thanks for posting your results Chuck. I've been looking into this idea for a while, but never pulled the trigger. I presume you used the Moto stock sectors? -Eric On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought I would post back on here what we did and our results. These are preliminary. Equipment: 1 x 320AP Configuration with only one sector: Power set to 19.9dB (per the manual for legal power settings) AP set to -65 power leveling Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates from -65 to -70) for all clients. Client receive levels ranged from -61 to -75. Equipment: 1 x 320AP 4 x 16.5dB 90 degree sectors 2 x 4 way splitters from L-Com Configuration with only one sector: Power set to full 25dB (per the manual for legal power settings, assuming a -6.5dB of loss) AP set to -65 power leveling Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates from -65 to -70) for all clients. Client receive levels ranged from -64 to -78. So essentially by adding a 4 way splitter the clients receive levels increased by about 3.5-4dB. Tower receive levels were unchanged, as most of the clients were power leveled down. Only one client is transmitting at full power now. That client is also the highest signal on both sides. Most client transmit levels are also running at a higher power now as well. Conclusion: I think that running 1 x 320AP x 4 sectors through splitters is a little aggressive. If the majority of your clients are going to have decent signal levels, then I see no problems with it. However, I think that our current situation is a little on the edge. I think that if you are looking for an inexpensive way to use 320AP's, I would recommend this solution. I think that this solution has a higher net gain over using an 8dB omni. My results show that it is pretty consistent on being about a total loss of about 8dB using a 4 way splitter. You can overcome 6.1dB of that loss in turning up the transmit power of the radios. Your net loss is about 2.5-3dB, however you are able to focus the sectors a little better. In the long run on future deployments, we will likely use 2 AP's and 4 sectors with 4x2way splitters (MIMO). Once they reach capacity, we'll add additional AP's. Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AN-50e won't power on
Replace the fuse? If you have an older AN-50 laying around and don't mind voiding warranty, you can crack the box and swap power supplies. -Eric On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I have an AN-50e that won't power on. I have tried either and both of the power supplies. Yes, they're plugged in to working outlets. Yes, the switches are on. Ideas? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AN-50e won't power on
We have very bad commercial power out here in western Kansas. I've had several blown fuses. BTW, I've been through many dead ODU's and each time the IDU powers up regardless of what RG cable is connected to?? -Eric On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Dozens of problems with them. Not one fuse problem. On Feb 1, 2011 5:49 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Replace the fuse? If you have an older AN-50 laying around and don't mind voiding warranty, you can crack the box and swap power supplies. -Eric On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I have an AN-50e that won't power on. I have tried either and both of the power supplies. Yes, they're plugged in to working outlets. Yes, the switches are on. Ideas? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
Are you using the 65 degree sectors that ship with the 320? If so, 3 sectors would leave quite a gap, no? -Eric On 12/17/2010 10:00 AM, David Sovereen wrote: We happen to be doing ABC configuration with 7 MHz channels, and no frequency reuse at any individual site (yet), so we just lucked out in not running into this problem. FYI, e2.0.2 is the latest and is on their web site. Not sure if it will make any difference for you. That translates to f03b00-v6.2.4.3MOTO on the SM and System_Release_e2.1_B28695_GUI_B3 on the AP. Dave On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: Thanks for the info and the link to the .pdf. What kind of speed are you getting out of the 5 MHz channels? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.netwrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net AolYahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
We are currently using the 3.5mhz channel. We are getting exactly what the link budget table says in the manual. 3.5mhz channel (75% downlink) will give you 13mb/s in MIMO B. Next modulation down is around 6mb/s, which is what most SM's link up at. -Eric On 12/17/2010 9:18 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: Thanks for the info and the link to the .pdf. What kind of speed are you getting out of the 5 MHz channels? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
Ditto on the CTM-2. The CMM4's are big, bulky and not rack mount friendly. We only use them for GPS sync and power. The switch is stuck on a dusty shelf. -Eric On 12/17/2010 2:27 PM, David Sovereen wrote: Yes, we are using their antenna, and you are correct that we do have massive gaps, currently. Because of the expense of the APs, we have not been deploying them in 360 degree fashion. We do a lot of 900 MHz and have been installing them where we need additional capacity. So if we have a loaded 900AP (these are already sectorized as that is the first step we take in adding capacity), we'll take a 320 AP sector and face it in the same direction as the loaded 900AP, and then convert customers onto it. Currently, 3 is the maximum number of APs we have on a single tower. Also, none of our APs are currently GPS-synced, but we our installations seem to be far enough apart and/or with enough downtilt, and we have been paying close attention to our frequency selections, that it hasn't been an issue. I've been waiting for Last Mile Gear's CTM-2 or was thinking about buying PacketFlux SyncInjectors, pending Forrest's comments. Dave On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com wrote: We are currently using the 3.5mhz channel. We are getting exactly what the link budget table says in the manual. 3.5mhz channel (75% downlink) will give you 13mb/s in MIMO B. Next modulation down is around 6mb/s, which is what most SM's link up at. -Eric On 12/17/2010 9:18 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: Thanks for the info and the link to the .pdf. What kind of speed are you getting out of the 5 MHz channels? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:05 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320
Of course they are. There is a good document published by Motorola on this very subject *http://tinyurl.com/22quxyu* I've been in contact with 2 other large operators with the exact same situation. They each moved to a ABCD channel plan as well. -Eric On 12/16/2010 4:48 PM, David Sovereen wrote: Are your APs not GPS-synced? Dave On Dec 16, 2010 5:04 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com mailto:ericm...@gmail.com wrote: We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to see it. Moving to a ABCD channel plan has resolved many issues and packet loss is very minimal now. Customer experience has greatly improved. We have subscribers at 9 miles so moving to 5mhz channel size is not an option until the extended range firmware is released. Obviously, once this software is released and the product gains upper 25mhz approval we can then run ABCD channel plan in 10mhz. Until then, we're stuck. -Eric On 12/16/2010 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net mailto:j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support From: Carl Shiverscshiv...@aristotle.net mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:28:06 -0600 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320 During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories about how he had to tweak his SM installations, but once he had a link, it was generally solid. I would like to conference with one of you who are having success with this system so as to better utilize our installation. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems
Redline Redmax AN-100U and UX both use GPS. I know that Airspan and Alvarions 3.65 products also use GPS. I believe anything 802.16d/e uses GPS. -Eic On 6/14/2010 11:44 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: RedMAX 3.5 GHz (not for use in the US) products sure use GPS. RedConnec AN-80i don't. Is the 3.65 solution based on RedMAX or AN-80 ? Rubens On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Redline 3.65? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Needing - Dragonwave AirPair IDU
If anyone has a working Dragonwave Airpair IDU modem that they can part with, please let me know. -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use
We are primarily a PPPoE shop and run a bridged system for that reason. Each AP has it's own VLAN bridged back to the core. We've done this for many years without a single issue. We have different service offerings like VOIP, PPPoE, DHCP, PTPVPN and even extend our metro ethernet across our wireless network. VLAN's work great for this. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:01 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I didn't mean to sound short or rude with this last message. I mean no disrespect. I've been networking for 25 years... Novell servers, MS, IP networks, blah blah blah. It's just that I expected this response, but I want to INVITE other opinions. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use Opinion #1. Anybody with large bridged systems? - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use . Route from Day One. why pickup bad habits bridging . :) Faisal On 4/14/2010 1:27 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Routing vs. Bridging is an easy discussion... Bridge until you get a certain number of subs then route. Traffic isolation, minimize broadcast storms, etc. Route if you have multiple backhauls to a site. However, I have heard of WISPs with thousands of subscribers bridging with VLANs to do traffic isolation. Anyone care to share on this topic your experience either way? I'm considering a change in our routing infrastructure. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use
Approx. 3,500 wireless subs and 32 tower sites. Our wireless network has began to shrink since we've started to replace with FTTH. My only point is that I do recommend a routed network vs. bridged. But, a bridged network can work very well if designed properly. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:24 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Eric, how many clients / tower sites / APs are you serving this way? Do you expect it to scale to double/triple your size now? - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com To:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use We are primarily a PPPoE shop and run a bridged system for that reason. Each AP has it's own VLAN bridged back to the core. We've done this for many years without a single issue. We have different service offerings like VOIP, PPPoE, DHCP, PTPVPN and even extend our metro ethernet across our wireless network. VLAN's work great for this. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:01 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I didn't mean to sound short or rude with this last message. I mean no disrespect. I've been networking for 25 years... Novell servers, MS, IP networks, blah blah blah. It's just that I expected this response, but I want to INVITE other opinions. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use Opinion #1. Anybody with large bridged systems? - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use . Route from Day One. why pickup bad habits bridging . :) Faisal On 4/14/2010 1:27 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Routing vs. Bridging is an easy discussion... Bridge until you get a certain number of subs then route. Traffic isolation, minimize broadcast storms, etc. Route if you have multiple backhauls to a site. However, I have heard of WISPs with thousands of subscribers bridging with VLANs to do traffic isolation. Anyone care to share on this topic your experience either way? I'm considering a change in our routing infrastructure. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use
LOL. It's very minimal. If 20% of your BH is saturated with PPPoE broadcasts then you have something else to worry about. Typical non-unicast packet rates on an average AP is around 1 pps. If anyone is interested in broadcast packet rates on a heavily utilized bridged network, let me know, offline. I have several Cacti graphs I can share. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:31 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: I would love to see the amount of data that you move JUST in PPPoE session data? I had one customer doing this and after analysis of a single backhaul we figured 20% of the backhaul bandwidth was just session keepalives. Its not much, but you timed it by 200-300 customers 24/7, it adds up! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use Eric, how many clients / tower sites / APs are you serving this way? Do you expect it to scale to double/triple your size now? - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com To:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use We are primarily a PPPoE shop and run a bridged system for that reason. Each AP has it's own VLAN bridged back to the core. We've done this for many years without a single issue. We have different service offerings like VOIP, PPPoE, DHCP, PTPVPN and even extend our metro ethernet across our wireless network. VLAN's work great for this. -Eric On 4/14/2010 1:01 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I didn't mean to sound short or rude with this last message. I mean no disrespect. I've been networking for 25 years... Novell servers, MS, IP networks, blah blah blah. It's just that I expected this response, but I want to INVITE other opinions. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use Opinion #1. Anybody with large bridged systems? - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing / Bridging / VLAN Use . Route from Day One. why pickup bad habits bridging . :) Faisal On 4/14/2010 1:27 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Routing vs. Bridging is an easy discussion... Bridge until you get a certain number of subs then route. Traffic isolation, minimize broadcast storms, etc. Route if you have multiple backhauls to a site. However, I have heard of WISPs with thousands of subscribers bridging with VLANs to do traffic isolation. Anyone care to share on this topic your experience either way? I'm considering a change in our routing infrastructure. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal
In the Motorola 320, the AP as 2 TX and 2 RX. The SM's have 2 TX and 1 RX. It will operate at MIMO Matrix B if optimal signal can be achieved. Otherwise it operates at MIMO A. -Eric On 3/18/2010 2:39 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Can someone clarify, is the Motorola 320 MIMO out of the box? Is it two (or more) antennas in the same polarity? Randy On 3/18/2010 1:23 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have to admit if MIMO is made available in the 3.65 range I'm going to use it in my city. I've been catering to my rural customers because 2.4 and 5GHZ isn't clogged out there. We already have a 3.65 license but haven't deployed it yet, I anxiously await the MIMO gear on that frequency. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal
The ASN is good for cellular type hand-off in the 802.16e mobility profile. It's typically very expensive. Not usually required if in a fixed application. -Eric On 3/18/2010 2:41 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: For us WiMAX neophytes, could you explain the ASN gateway and why it's on your list of things you don't want? Randy On 3/18/2010 1:37 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: The same base-station company I mentioned in my previous post has done interoperability testing and certified 3.65 CPEs from asian vendors as well... http://www.purewavenetworks.com/Solutions/CPEPortfolio.aspx 3.65-3.675 GHz MTI XS-615-035M-021 P/N: 050-00365-25M 3.6-3.8 GHz GEMTEK WIXS-177 P/N: 050-00365-155 They are both based on the Sequans chipset which is a quite popular choice among asian (and some non-asian) vendors, so (besides FCC certification) most asian CPEs are very likely to work. That makes MIMO and beamforming available at 3.65 GHz, I guess. Disclaimer: I've not tested MIMO and/or beamforming at 3.65 GHz, but at 3.5 GHz the technology is a game changer. I've also not tested Purewave gear as they weren't on the market at the time of the tests, but their choice of not requiring an ASN gateway was on the wish-list I gave to all the vendors that we actually tested. Rubens On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Patrick Learyple...@apertonet.com wrote: My point stands Ruben; thanks for making it for me further. You are referring to a licensed frequency of 3.5 GHz. I am referring to quasi (really unlicensed from a practical standpoint) 3.65 GHz. I have been around the block a very long time in this business. The rude fact is that the big companies don't care about this small (from a global perspective) U.S. niche band of 3.65 GHz enough to put any money and resources into interoperability. It is not like globally accepted (U.S. not withstanding) licensed 3.5 GHz (which is still a tiny market relative to Wi-Fi) and the even smaller licensed 2.5 GHz in the U.S. (or 2.3 GHz WiBRO in South Korea). I am well compentent and authoritative enough to speak on this industry far beyond the narrow confines of my company. And as I have been doing since Dec 1999 when I first hit the lists, I will call BS and/or clarify market misunderstanding when I see it. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal What you call a total myth (CPE x basestation interopoerability) is something that I actually tested in the field with 3.5 GHz .16e, which is not as popular as 2.3/2.5 WiBro/Clearwire/Yota frequencies. If Aperto has such interoperability issues, please talk only for Aperto, not for the marketplace. Rubens On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Patrick Learyple...@apertonet.com wrote: Myth. Total Myth. There is no interoperability in 3.65 GHz that allows someone to source .16e CPE from any number of Cheap asian CPEs. That is one of the most 180 degrees wrong myths. The fact is that every vendor, regardless of the WiMAX standard, sells its own CPE precisely because the interoperability hype is total bull. What has happened is that unknowledgable people have confused the WiMAX Forum's efforts re interoperability in 2.5 GHz (limited as even that is) with it being somehow relative to other frequencies like quasi-licensed 3.65 GHz. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal What UBNT has shown is that one can go inexpensive alternatives and make them good products. The equivalent in WiMAX is PureWave Networks; their base station can do MIMO and beamforming and doesn't require an ASN-GW, which was the higher CAPEX for a small 802.16e deployment until they came along. Being 16e means you can have 10 MHz channels (best there is in the WiMAX world before 20 MHz 16m), MIMO, beamforming and can buy all those cheap asian CPEs instead of the vendor lock-in that happens in 16d. http://www.purewavenetworks.com Rubens On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Patrick Learyple...@apertonet.com wrote: 802.11 and its MIMO costs are not relevant to WiMAX and its MIMO costs. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal Regular MIMO doesn't have to be expensive, UBNT has
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal
You are correct. Thanks for the clarification. -Eric On 3/18/2010 2:58 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Sm has 2 rx 1 tx Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Mar 18, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com wrote: In the Motorola 320, the AP as 2 TX and 2 RX. The SM's have 2 TX and 1 RX. It will operate at MIMO Matrix B if optimal signal can be achieved. Otherwise it operates at MIMO A. -Eric On 3/18/2010 2:39 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Can someone clarify, is the Motorola 320 MIMO out of the box? Is it two (or more) antennas in the same polarity? Randy On 3/18/2010 1:23 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have to admit if MIMO is made available in the 3.65 range I'm going to use it in my city. I've been catering to my rural customers because 2.4 and 5GHZ isn't clogged out there. We already have a 3.65 license but haven't deployed it yet, I anxiously await the MIMO gear on that frequency. Forbes --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal
Correct. No ASN. Service flows and classifications are set directly in the AP. Radius is built into the SM. It's fully L3 routeable. Currently no L2 functionality. -Eric On 3/18/2010 3:11 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Thanks. Now, on the Motorola 320, for example, the ASN gateway is not part of the picture, correct? On 3/18/2010 1:59 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com wrote: For us WiMAX neophytes, could you explain the ASN gateway and why it's on your list of things you don't want? An ASN gateway sits between the Radio Access Network (where there are only tunnels from the base station to the ASN GW) and the Core Services Network, where the traffic seen is the user traffic. You can see a better explation with diagrams in: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/wimax/wimax_network_model.htm ASN gateways are usually expensive, as are the BSC (Base Station Controllers) that have a similar role in cellular networks. What Pure Wave is doing is something that was once know as Profile B where the base station could work without an ASN gateway. Navini gear before Cisco also worked like this, which is very similar to what an Wi-Fi Access-Point usually does. In larger networks ASN gateways are essential to scaling the network and the ones I've tested were pretty good. I just don't want to pay the price of them. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 700mhz Wimax
Aside from Airspan, can any suggest a manufacturer that produces 700mhz Wimax equipment? We own several licenses. Trolling salesmen and vendors, feel free to contact me offlist. -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola telemarketing call
It is currently in Beta. I would expect it to start shipping around the first part of April. -Eric On 2/23/2010 9:03 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: I guess motorola is calling wisps about there new 3650 gear which the representative said will be available in the next few weeks. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone use this: Motorola Point-to-Multipoint CAP 320 Access Point
It is still in beta testing. Product is slated for shipping in early April. -Eric On 2/20/2010 11:30 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] EBS Licensing
I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
I wonder if supplying them with an internet connection fulfills that obligation. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DHCP options
This has DHCP option 82 written all over it. It's very popular in a DOCSIS environment. I assume the Alvarion equipment doesn't support option 82. If this is the case you could do it via an option 82 capable switch. The switch could tell you what port, MAC, IP, etc. Good luck. -Eric Cameron Kilton wrote: We are looking into a DHCP delivery method that doesn't require the use of Mac Addresses to enter. We are using all Alvarion VL equipment (5.x 900) the problem is: We want Customer to plug in device and get a DHCP address, easy right. Okay hard part, without the use of Mac addresses how can we tell which customers are what and log this into a database. Is there a way to control this via the radio? We don't want to use PPPoE so that option is out, we currently provide Static IP numbers for everybody but would like to get away from this in certain (cheaper) markets. Come on guys, hit me with your best ideas on this one. Were at a wall. Thank You, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Defective Microtik
Scott, So do you solder or ground the shielded end at any point or just ground the drain wire only? -Eric Scott Reed wrote: From way back when I was an electrical engineering student, ground one end. Or ground every 10 to 20 feet along the run. Otherwise you have the potential for a ground loop, which means you have current running through the shield and then through the tower. That can induce it's own noise into the cable. Here is the key: Single Point Ground. The idea is to do your best to keep everything at the same voltage potential. So everything comes back to one place. So, while Jayson is right to a point about creating an antenna, the solution is different than he suggests. You want to have the drain wire do what it's name says, drain the stray signals to ground. For some installations, using the metal connector on one end works. That is, assuming that the board ground in directly connected to the single point ground. My personal preference is to directly connect the drain wire to the ground point, but the key is that you have one ground point and no current flowing through the ground wires. Jayson Baker wrote: If you don't ground both ends you're creating a huge antenna to pick up static and drain it right into your board/POE. Always use shielded connectors on both ends, and ground both ends. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: While we are on the STP topic... It's been noted several times that you are only supposed to ground ONE end of the STP shield otherwise you are creating for yourself a ground potential difference. The idea behind the shield is just that - shield noise away shunted to ground. On a typical install lets cal this the radio side use plastic connector and inside use grounded one with tall the other lightning goodies. What is the consensus on this while we are on topic :) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Redline AN80i latest firmware
If you have the latest please send offlist with documentation if you have it. Thanks, -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Default a AN80i?
It certainly works. I've done it numerous times. However, it is a pain and a bit awkwardly implemented IMO. -Eric Josh Luthman wrote: Joe, If you wouldn't mind please share how easy/difficult this is. For me it seems like a pain due to timing but I would trust your word much more then my imagination! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Joe Laura joela...@superior1.com wrote: Wow, Thanks! I cant thank you enough! Joe WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Default a AN80i?
http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=377fieldOffset=14hitOffset=709+20+ Joe Laura wrote: Does anyone know how to default an AN80i Redline? Joe Laura - Original Message - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Default a AN80i?
Sorry, 1. Power-off the AN-80i PoE power adapter. Remove the network Ethernet cable and connect your computer directly to the PoE power adapter 'INPUT' (Ethernet port requires Cat 5e cross-over cable). 2. Open a command prompt window on the PC and enter the command: telnet 192.168.25.2 Do not press Enter key at this time 3. Power-on the AN-80i PoE power adapter for over 30 seconds. 4. Power-off the AN-80i PoE power adapter for 7 seconds. 5. Power-on the AN-80i PoE power adapter, wait 15 seconds, and then press the Enter key on the PC (to start the Telnet session). The Telnet session must connect to the AN-80i within 10 to 30 seconds from when the AN-80i starts the second time. 6. When prompted, login using 'admin' as the user name and 'admin' as password. 7. Use the following commands to save a new IP address: ipaddr IP Address Enter save config Enter If required, use the 'user' command to enter new username and password information or the 'save' command to reset all parameters to factory default settings. 8. Power-off the AN-80i, restore the network connections, and restore power Joe Laura wrote: Couldnt get to that link. Says Your support portal session has expired - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Default a AN80i? http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=377fieldOffset=14hitOffset=709+20+ Joe Laura wrote: Does anyone know how to default an AN80i Redline? Joe Laura - Original Message - -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2264 - Release Date: 07/26/09 11:07:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] radio mobile
FYI...If your using RadioMobile as a path calculator for PtP links, the antenna pattern is irrelevant. Using an omni antenna for both TX and RX will give you accurate numbers. -Eric Brian Rohrbacher wrote: So, I have been working on radio mobile for the past couple days. I need to make my antenna patterns. I use ubiquiti powerstations and need to find the info on the antenna. How do I look up that info on the fcc website? FCC Part 15.247, IC RS210 is the info I have from the data sheet. Will that work? Brian Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, lot lower risk that way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile Ha...pretty funny. I don't buy from an EBay seller unless they DO take PayPal. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile Ok, I finally figured out how to send payment to you. I HATE paypal I had to create an account in order to send this. I don't even buy things from ebay if they only take paypal, that's how much I appreciate your helping me Anyway, what's next? thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile For Terrain data, set up RM to automatically grab the correct terrain data as needed. - Open RM - Options - Internet - Internet ftp directory - other - Enter the following ftp appending your region at the end ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/SRTM1/ To determine your region: ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/SRTM1/Region_definition.jpg Check ZIP So if you are region 2 your FTP address will look like: ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version2/SRTM1/Region_02/ Let me know when you have this set up. As far as payment, you can do PayPal without an account - just send it to jrichard...@aircloud.com. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile I understand that. Why do you think I'm even trying to learn it? Still, programmers shouldn't be so danged lazy! How hard can it be to put a good install program in place? Or a map (hey, what a thing for a mapping program to include!) that you can click on to download the data you are interested in marlon - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile You may think it is a POS but try and buy something that can do what it can. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile Sold! I tried to download the terrain data, but I got the NED instead of the srtm. I don't know which data set to get. WHAT a POS system this is! Also, I don't have paypal. If you'll take a cc or check I'm in. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile I'll get you from zero to terrain analysis in about an hour. You'll need to get your SRTM data loaded first - do you know how to do that? We can use ZOHO Web Meeting. Price 100.00 paid via PayPal __ airCloud Communications Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 _ ConsuWISP RF Topographical Coverage Maps Network Optimization and Planning Network Design and Troubleshooting Installer and Technician Training Please consider the environment before printing this email -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile I don't have time (or the desire) to wade through a bunch of documentation. I'll pay someone for their time. thanks,
Re: [WISPA] radio mobile
Get your SRTM data from here... ftp://e0srp01u.ecs.nasa.gov/srtm/version1/United_States_1arcsec/1arcsec/ -Eric Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Sold! I tried to download the terrain data, but I got the NED instead of the srtm. I don't know which data set to get. WHAT a POS system this is! Also, I don't have paypal. If you'll take a cc or check I'm in. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile I'll get you from zero to terrain analysis in about an hour. You'll need to get your SRTM data loaded first - do you know how to do that? We can use ZOHO Web Meeting. Price 100.00 paid via PayPal __ airCloud Communications Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 _ ConsuWISP RF Topographical Coverage Maps Network Optimization and Planning Network Design and Troubleshooting Installer and Technician Training Please consider the environment before printing this email -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile I don't have time (or the desire) to wade through a bunch of documentation. I'll pay someone for their time. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile Uhm...ya... Try this... http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/index.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Hi All, I need to learn how to use this program. I can't even figure out how to get started with it (less than user friendly isn't it!) though. Anyone willing to spend some time on the phone and help me figure out the basics? Shoot me your number and a good time to call. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what you think.
Tranzeo now offers a low cost 3.65 basestation with CPE that is compatible with Redline's Redmax basestation and CPE. -Eric Pat O'Connor wrote: We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different locations because of interference issues. So far they have the most compelling price point. I'd like to know how well it works in the field. All opinions appreciated. Hit me off list if you want to.\ Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Redline AN50e QoS
Does anybody know if Redline's AN50e support any low-latency modes, Diffserv or any other QoS prioritization for VOIP applications? The latest firmware I have (1.36.046) does not have these features. -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS
I assumed so. I know that Motorola/Orthogon has this feature set. It might be useful on those congested backhaul links where low-latency applications are used. -Eric Josh Luthman wrote: You can get a better answer from sup...@redlinecommunications.com (it's VERY good and free, don't worry) but to my knowledge it's about as capable (in this respect) as a Dlink switch from Walmart. Packet is a packet to them. I run VoIP over my network over several AN50s. I know when I was stuck at one tower site I was on the phone for most of the day going through 4 links of AN50s and MikroTik backhaul. Though I have to admit I have had customers use the same phone on a cable connection with 5m/384k and some one got into their linksys and used all of the connection for p2p/torrents. It merely caused a good 2-3 second delay in the conversation, but fine otherwise. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody know if Redline's AN50e support any low-latency modes, Diffserv or any other QoS prioritization for VOIP applications? The latest firmware I have (1.36.046) does not have these features. -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS
Thanks for stating the obvious. Unfortunately, these are not my BH's but a customer who's on a tight budget. Congestion isn't normally a problem, but when/if it is, the feature set in question may become quite useful. Per your suggestion, I've contacted Redline support. Thank you for your input. -Eric Josh Luthman wrote: If my backhauls were being congested then I would probably look for upgrade options rather then tweaking the little bit I have left. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com mailto:ericm...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed so. I know that Motorola/Orthogon has this feature set. It might be useful on those congested backhaul links where low-latency applications are used. -Eric Josh Luthman wrote: You can get a better answer from sup...@redlinecommunications.com mailto:sup...@redlinecommunications.com (it's VERY good and free, don't worry) but to my knowledge it's about as capable (in this respect) as a Dlink switch from Walmart. Packet is a packet to them. I run VoIP over my network over several AN50s. I know when I was stuck at one tower site I was on the phone for most of the day going through 4 links of AN50s and MikroTik backhaul. Though I have to admit I have had customers use the same phone on a cable connection with 5m/384k and some one got into their linksys and used all of the connection for p2p/torrents. It merely caused a good 2-3 second delay in the conversation, but fine otherwise. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com mailto:ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody know if Redline's AN50e support any low-latency modes, Diffserv or any other QoS prioritization for VOIP applications? The latest firmware I have (1.36.046) does not have these features. -Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using PPPoE DHCP simultaneously?
Bridging DHCP and PPPoE on the same physical LAN segment is not a good idea, but can be done. I've done this as a quick way to convert PPPoE subs to DHCP and visa-versa. Use VLAN's to separate the two if you can. -Eric Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I know it's considered bad practice to do this, but I'm transitioning my existing wireless network from DHCP/Static to PPPoE, and I was wondering if there was a technical reason PPPoE DHCP can't co-exist on the same network. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] High CRC errors on RedMax?
2.1.8.FCCMade on: Sep 4 2008, 14:15:50 Also, we are using AN-100UX's not U's. -Eric John McDowell wrote: What code are you on? We're running 2.0.26.FCC On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com mailto:ericm...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen this when there is a bad SU registered. CRC's climb out of control. I have not seen this on multiple SU's before. It's typically singled out. Have you rebooted the AP recently. I'm running the latest beta code and have experience a couple of lockups over the past couple of months. -Eric John McDowell wrote: Are there any RedMax operators out there that have begun to see really high CRC errors on their sectors? We've got two sectors that have seemingly gone from very clean to abnormally high CRC errors, effecting calls and slowing Internet speeds etc? We have a ticket open with redline support but I wanted to see if any of you had experienced this. We even swapped out cabling on one of these sectors to no avail. Could it be a bad surge protector? Thanks in advance, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com http://www.boonlink.com http://www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com http://www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com mailto:j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls
Nex-Tech participated in this poll and we are around 4000 subs. 90% Canopy shop. -Eric Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: How far do you reckon that folks have stretched their numbers? I'll be happy to put my name by my number. - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Book1.xls Chuck, I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth with your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to your poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs count for a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that participated in the survey that I am not aware of. Cool survey THANKS!! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls Got tired of adding it up each time. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release Date: 12/6/2008 4:55 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz Parabolic Dish
Try these http://www.stelladoradus.com/3.2-3.8.3.5.ghz.parabolic.antennas.php http://www.hyperlinktech.com/productfamily.aspx?id=173 http://www.tiltek.com/products/newantennaSeries.php?range=3400-3700range2=series=TA-3400Antenna_Type= http://www.mtiwe.com/tree.aspx?parent=18id=41type=11 -Eric Jeff Holdenrid wrote: Has anyone found a 3.65Ghz Parabolic dish? The pac wireless dish only covers to 3.6Ghz and the only one I found so far is the til-tek. If there are any other options out there please let me know. Jeff This email was scanned by DoubleRadius Technical Solutions Managed Email Security and is free of viruses. Your email can be virus and spam free! Contact us at 866-891-3602 x192. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wierd ap issue - ap thinks default plug is in
I've seen this happen in the past. Do you have a sync cable plugged into the sync port? Have you tried upgrading firmware? -Eric WISP wrote: I had to reboot one of my towers tonight and when the access point came back with Default plug overrides configured parameters Since this P10 AP has been up for 7 months, and rebooted 20 times or so and no tower climbs, I am fairly certain that it doesn't have a default plug in it. Has anyone ever seen this and if so, is there any fix. My awesome motorola support guy told me after my description of it says the default plug is in was to replace the unit. Is there any way to have the ap ignore the default plug temporarily so that I can have it working until I can get up the tower. thanks, Cliff WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates. -Eric Matt Jenkins wrote: You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti. I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc. Matt Hardy wrote: Hi David, A couple of responses :) I'd be happy if more vendors would standardize on SNMP, at the very least, and ideally export things like signal (and/or SNR) in a usable way. Ligowave doesn't export signal levels anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, instead asking you to use their proprietary software. A few customers have requested these stats be exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom MIBs to the software that provide information not found in the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant) If you want to win my undying affection, get a couple dozen vendors to adopt a unified wireless MIB structure. We'd be happy to work together with other vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats (receive signal level, noise level, etc). Best Regards, Matt Hardy LigoWave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
According to David Smith (list), their is no OID to support those features. Apparently, a future upgrade will support this. So no dice on the cacti templates just yet. Once it's available I could create some templates pretty quick...I just need access to the device. -Eric Joe Miller wrote: Eric, Can you post them when you are done? --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates. -Eric Matt Jenkins wrote: You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti. I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc. Matt Hardy wrote: Hi David, A couple of responses :) I'd be happy if more vendors would standardize on SNMP, at the very least, and ideally export things like signal (and/or SNR) in a usable way. Ligowave doesn't export signal levels anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, instead asking you to use their proprietary software. A few customers have requested these stats be exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom MIBs to the software that provide information not found in the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant) If you want to win my undying affection, get a couple dozen vendors to adopt a unified wireless MIB structure. We'd be happy to work together with other vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats (receive signal level, noise level, etc). Best Regards, Matt Hardy LigoWave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing
Roughly $7-8k for basestation and $300 per SU if ordered by the pallet (72). If you have the budget go for the AN-100UX. It will give you much needed power and help you reach EIRP. This would also make it possible to use the SU-I's (indoor). -Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any idea on Redline's pricing for their AN-100U and SU-O 's? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline Wimax Rough Pricing
I'm not sure on that. We've only ordered a few to test with and that was pre-certification. I'm sure the price has gone down since then. I'm sure you could get close to that $300 number if you order in bulk. -Eric John McDowell wrote: What is pricing on SU-I now? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Roughly $7-8k for basestation and $300 per SU if ordered by the pallet (72). If you have the budget go for the AN-100UX. It will give you much needed power and help you reach EIRP. This would also make it possible to use the SU-I's (indoor). -Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any idea on Redline's pricing for their AN-100U and SU-O 's? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] quality rugged, outdoor-friendly switches?
Cisco 2955 - http://cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6738/index.html Moxa EDS series - http://www.moxa.com/product/Managed_Redundant_Switches.htm Garrettcom Magnum - http://www.garrettcom.com/mp62.htm to name a few -Eric Rogelio wrote: I've got tons of various Bridgewave devices that I will need to connect to some BelAir BA200s for a large muni rollout, but since this is outdoors in a harsh environment, I'm guessing I'll need some sort of hardened outdoor-friendly switch. I suppose I could look at various NEMA enclosures to put on a regular switch, but I'd rather just start from the getgo with some quality rugged switches. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO not passing traffic
Gino, I'd consult the vendor you got your equipment from. They should be able to help you get your deployment off the ground. If you'd like I could provide (offline) you with some screenshots of a basic setup. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: I must have something setup wrong here... SUO connected to AN100, I can ping locally the SUO, can pass data thought it. Subscriber,Service Class and Flow are setup accordinly. One question, do I need to setup a classifier even if I use Dynamic Learning? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO no layer 2 trafic
Gino, I'm sending you a note offlist. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Aside from the quick setup guide, any other parameter needs to be configured to pass data trough the SUO units? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO initial config
John runs the Redmax AN-100U which is limited to 23dbm transmit power. However, the AN-100UX is limited to 36dbm. With a sector antenna at the base station running 27-28dbm transmit power you could easily do 2+ miles NLOS with 64QAM/16QAM which would give you about 11mb/s down and 4mb/s up @ 60% downlink ratio. FYI...In our experience the omni setup really hurts with the AP hearing the SU's. The uplink modulation degrades substantially vs. a sector setup. I would say that 3.65 is it's a blend of 900mhz and 2.4ghz in terms of penetrability. -Eric John McDowell wrote: We have an omni with 3.65 Redmax. I have it on a 140' tower with flat terrain, moderate trees. I have about 5 customers completely NLOS, one of which is almost a mile away, shooting through dense trees, and getting 5 mbps down, 1 mbps up. We've been very please with the ease of installation and the performance. On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind sharing with us your experiences with this product? Do you have hilly or tree covered areas where you serve? Does the propagation you see in 3.65 GHz with Redmax reflect similar experiences you have had with other bands like 5.8 GHz, 2.4 GHz or 900 MHz? Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, John Scrivner On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scriv The 3.65 SUO is the Subscriber Unit Outdoor for the Redline Redmax 3.65 ghz 802.16d line of products Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO initial config Sorry to be nosy but would you mind sharing what a 3.65 SUO is? I have never heard of this. I am looking for feedback about any 3.65 products installed and in use out there. Thanks, Scriv On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need to config anything on the SUO units to get the to register to the Base? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO initial config
I did 6 miles near line of sight last week with the SU hanging out the window in my truck on an omni setup. I've heard that with a sector setup at the basestation and a connectorized SU you can go into the teens with the AN-100UX. -Eric Travis Johnson wrote: What is maximum distance you could get with line of site? Travis Microserv Eric Muehleisen wrote: John runs the Redmax AN-100U which is limited to 23dbm transmit power. However, the AN-100UX is limited to 36dbm. With a sector antenna at the base station running 27-28dbm transmit power you could easily do 2+ miles NLOS with 64QAM/16QAM which would give you about 11mb/s down and 4mb/s up @ 60% downlink ratio. FYI...In our experience the omni setup really hurts with the AP hearing the SU's. The uplink modulation degrades substantially vs. a sector setup. I would say that 3.65 is it's a blend of 900mhz and 2.4ghz in terms of penetrability. -Eric John McDowell wrote: We have an omni with 3.65 Redmax. I have it on a 140' tower with flat terrain, moderate trees. I have about 5 customers completely NLOS, one of which is almost a mile away, shooting through dense trees, and getting 5 mbps down, 1 mbps up. We've been very please with the ease of installation and the performance. On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind sharing with us your experiences with this product? Do you have hilly or tree covered areas where you serve? Does the propagation you see in 3.65 GHz with Redmax reflect similar experiences you have had with other bands like 5.8 GHz, 2.4 GHz or 900 MHz? Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, John Scrivner On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scriv The 3.65 SUO is the Subscriber Unit Outdoor for the Redline Redmax 3.65 ghz 802.16d line of products Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 SUO initial config Sorry to be nosy but would you mind sharing what a 3.65 SUO is? I have never heard of this. I am looking for feedback about any 3.65 products installed and in use out there. Thanks, Scriv On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need to config anything on the SUO units to get the to register to the Base? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Redline AN100 Latest software?
Gino, I'm sending you 1.36.046 offlist. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: I have 1.2.24 on my AN100 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber
Performance was poor in our testing. the SU-I has only 8dbi gain on it's directional antenna (back of unit). It would obviously need to be window mounted for it to work. We tested on an interior room not even .25miles out and could not link up. -Eric Gino Villarini wrote: Please share performance info Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline indoor subscriber We just got our hands on the recently approved 3650 indoor subscriber unit from Redline. It was quite a bit smaller than I thought, so I figured I would share a perspective shot. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
ON: set boardConfig Buzzer 1 OFF: set boardConfig Buzzer 0 They are not very accurate. I would still recommend that you have someone on the remote end giving you a verbal. -Eric John McDowell wrote: yeah, i tried it to...no workie I look through some of the manuals and see On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried that, no workie -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command? i think its something like set Buzzer 1 Do you have any manuals? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it? How do I activate the buzzer? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
You are correct. Don't shoot the messenger. -Eric Jeff Booher wrote: Eric, How can it be possibly legal to use a 36dbm sector in 3.65ghz, unless you are talking about using a 3dbi antenna at the base? Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Redmax 100U - Lower power (23dbm) basesation $10k with sector antenna. Redmax 100UX - Certified last week, higher powered (36dbm) basestation $14k with sector antenna. -Eric John McDowell wrote: I hear RedMax is coming down in price on CPEs when you buy a pallet of 72. Sub $400. Mike, I'm interested to know what Alvarion is pricing the 3.65 gear now that it is available. Have they come down at all? On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how much does this stuff cost? Brian John McDowell wrote: I believe it. Today we had a 1.5 mile shot through dense trees using Redline Redmax 3.65. Customer was getting close to 500k upload. Signal held steady at 88db on a 1-story house. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Mike Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of you have known me for years, some wish they didn't :-). I am the doubting Thomas type and have to test myself before I recommend products to a client. Lets just say that Thomas was satisfied. Now the clients are echoing the same and that is what drives my wagon. Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike At 08:52 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote: Same here, I thought it was all marketing hype, if it works like the poster mentioned, we will need to consider moving up our timetable for evaluating wimax, 10k a basestation suddenly isn't that bad with the performance described. Regards Michael Baird Now this is a 180* of what others have told me, even others offering traditional, D, and E products. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireles s Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] RedMax Timing Module
Are you setting up sectors in different parts of a town or is this for one site? There are 3 non-overlapping channels you can use, but adding a 4th sector may require timing unless you can get away with the proper channel arrangements and/or polarizations. -Eric John McDowell wrote: Hey guys, Last Mile Gear, How is the RedMax GPS timing module coming? Is anyone else using GPS for their RedMax deployments? Thanks! -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com http://www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] RedMax Timing Module
You can sync the two sectors together using a cable then use the other non-overlapping channel on the omni. Obviously, if you add another sector you'll need a timing device. -Eric John McDowell wrote: Omni...9 miles away from 2 sectors. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you setting up sectors in different parts of a town or is this for one site? There are 3 non-overlapping channels you can use, but adding a 4th sector may require timing unless you can get away with the proper channel arrangements and/or polarizations. -Eric John McDowell wrote: Hey guys, Last Mile Gear, How is the RedMax GPS timing module coming? Is anyone else using GPS for their RedMax deployments? Thanks! -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com http://www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Open Range
Bob, Can you please share more info either on-list or off-list please? -Eric M. bcochran wrote: Chris, Yes I know all about this organization. Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless monitoring with rrdtool / Cacti
You name it...we graph it. I've been using cacti to graph our Canopy, Trango, Airspan, Dragonwave, Mikrotik, APC...etc. Jitter, Power, SNR, Ping, CPU utilization, PPS. Basically anything that has an SNMP OID. -Eric Rogelio wrote: Has anyone found Cacti (or any other rrdtools) particularly useful in wireless environments? If so, what did you monitor besides bandwidth useage? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?
Redback is untouchable in terms of PPPoE aggregation. Cisco is really the only other Router out there that is of Redback's caliber. We currently terminate close to 15,000 subscribers using a Redback SE 400. Attached is our current CPU usage. -Eric rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All I'm in the process of moving over to another upstream provider. I'm working with them closely to get service to my county PUD system that uses pppoe tunnels for virtually all end user connections. ( I know that I can get a vlan, but the cost is prohibitive at the moment) So, I'm their first beta tester in my area and they have this used Redback router. First there were problems that were to be solved with a firmware upgrade, now they have a hardware failure without a spare. I'm not familiar with this router at all, but discussed it with their sysadmin. Apparently the need is for something that can handle 2000 sessions and has full 100Mbps NICs and can support that speed. I'm not a pppoe expert, but would a decent PC, with 4/8GB of RAM and mikrotik SW installed handle something like this??? Butch? or other MT experts? Or is this requirement way out of the MT league? For my own reasons, I want to get them going, promptly! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!! Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
I'm sorry guys. Price was not discussed. A quote will be delivered to me shortly. I will post cost as soon as I see it. I'm hoping early next week. I do have a sales order for one Redline RedMAX base station with outdoor CPE if anyone is interested...offlist. FYI...I'm not in any shape or form affiliated with Airspan or Redline. We are an Internet Service Provider serving the greater Midwestern Kansas. Eric Muehleisen Sr. Internet Technology Specialist Nex-Tech - Lightning Jack 785.625.7070 office 785.621.2980 voip George Rogato wrote: Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But I'm sure everyone is curious. Thanks George Eric Muehleisen wrote: We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing. -Eric jeffrey thomas wrote: All, Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in 3.65. I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their secret sauce. Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your coverage area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible, according to their calculator tool. outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single piece qty- talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that sent me private mails asking them to join. - Jeff On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)? If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit throughput. I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's AN-80 is the only high quality product that actually has throughput capabilities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service) IIRC, 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5 Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10 Watts EIRP ... Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why Airspan certification does get really close to it Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db) Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service) As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I switch the subject line to match the tread. Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment. However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did. Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout process. I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity for operators to provide services using 3.65. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC limitations. My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear can do coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification. The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles. With a 90* sector, only about 5 miles. I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing. -Eric jeffrey thomas wrote: All, Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in 3.65. I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their secret sauce. Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your coverage area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible, according to their calculator tool. outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single piece qty- talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that sent me private mails asking them to join. - Jeff On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)? If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit throughput. I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's AN-80 is the only high quality product that actually has throughput capabilities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service) IIRC, 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5 Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10 Watts EIRP ... Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why Airspan certification does get really close to it Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db) Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service) As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I switch the subject line to match the tread. Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment. However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did. Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout process. I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity for operators to provide services using 3.65. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC limitations. My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear can do coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification. The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles. With a 90* sector, only about 5 miles. I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it isn't because the power isn't there. The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small channels. If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support higher throughput applications. According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets about 15 megs of throughput with WiMax. Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to the power. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] IP Database?
IPplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ Works quite well. PHP based. -Eric M. Dennis Burgess wrote: Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations of IP databases? I have a customer that is interested in being able to track all of the subnets etc, but needs a easy way of doing it. Dennis M. Burgess, CCNA, MCP, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant Partner/Senior Engineer Link Technologies, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vuze / Comcast / Peer to Peer / FCC
I don't think he meant completely lock it up. I think he mean that a P2P sub seeding a torrent causes this. A good torrent is enough to cause major connectivity issues on 4 meg Canopy 900 AP. -Eric Eric Rogers wrote: Does your 900 AP have a public IP? There is a known issue with HTTP requests locking up the units. I have mine with private IPs and firewalled off so only we can get to them. We don't have any lockup issues with Motorola APs. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vuze / Comcast / Peer to Peer / FCC Nope. I have it with Moto 900 Mhz AP's. Will completely lock it down to where it takes a minute or longer just to access it by telnet to reboot it. I can login to Mikrotik and kill all P2P connections and immediately access the 900 Mhz AP after the connections clear. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Standard Motorola 5.8 GHz Channel Frequencies
All flavors of Canopy support 5mhz steps. Centers are 5735, 5740, 5745 and so on. I think they are 10-12 mhz wide...i could be wrong on that. -Eric Jack Unger wrote: Could someone advise me what the Motorola Canopy 5.7 to 5.8 GHz standard channel center frequencies are? Also, how configurable are these channel frequencies? Can other (non-standard) frequencies be configured? Thanks very much, jack ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] You're all going to lose ( I hope not)
Here in Midwest Kansas the competition is surprisingly tough. The ATT's out there continue to escalate speeds and drop pricing...however, we continue to kill the competition with our local flavor of services. People here in the rural settings tend to buy into the we are the local guys more then the metro areas I think. We typically put a face to our names unlike the please wait on hold Telco's. That's the good 'ol Midwest for ya...customers in your neck of the woods might not be that faithful. -Eric Smith, Rick wrote: I've been looking through a LOT of wisp and supposed wisp websites at service pricing / traffic levels. Are you all NOT in competition areas where the iLECs are dishing out 5mbps/768kbps DSL everywhere you look ? I am, and now combine that with Cable modems @ a MINIMUM of 10mbps down and 2 mbps up. All priced around $40 / month residentially. HOW do we put up hardware, and what kind, that will compete at those traffic levels ? EASY to put up 1m/512 service - no one will use it tho. R ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] redline
The maximum transmit power allowed on my units is 18dBm. The receive sensitivity all depends on what UBR your currently at. When I was aiming them I was able to achieve 54mb at -85 ish. This is with 1ft panels going about 1.5 miles. -Eric Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Does anyone know off the top of their head the maximum power output of the Redline 5.4ghz product? And the receive sensitivity levels? Travis Microserv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] See what we put up with!
Except if your a WISP! Mac Dearman wrote: Everyone takes a nap on Sunday :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] See what we put up with! Wonder why he only turns the light off on Sunday? Rick Harnish wrote: I thought everyone might get a kick out of this trouble ticket. Comments: customer reported that the internet has been offline on Sunday, for the past 2 weeks. turns out the panel is on an outlet controlled by the light switch. I had him move the POE to a constant hot outlet, and also walked him through the process of rebooting the panel, in case he's in this situation again. Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/962 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 1:08 PM Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango VOIP
Doug, I will second Forrest's comments. We have been running VOIP on Canopy for several years now will great success. The key is setting the high priority queues and DiffServ settings. We also tagged VOIP traffic in a high priority DHCP VLAN. We've found that PPPoE encapsulation really struggles with VOIP. Are you using PPPoE? -Eric Forrest W Christian wrote: Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I tried Canopy Adv. a few months back but was unhappy with the overall range quality (2.5 miles LOS w/ a reflector, and 8 port ATA, the voice was choppy when I had all 8 calls going). I’m transmitting 1-3 miles over a salt water ¾ mile wide river. On the canopy side: Two things: 1) The secret of making canopy work at extended ranges is buying cyclone AP's from last mile gear. http://www.lastmilegear.com. I regularly get 10+ miles LOS with a reflector at 5.7, and 20+ miles LOS with a reflector at 2.4. Without the cyclone APs you can get roughly half that. The one thing you may have missed is that canopy is multipath sensitive, so moving the SM even 6-8 inches could make the difference between a great link and no link - especially with a big RF mirror like the river you are talking about. 2) VoIP on canopy works really well when set correctly. Correctly means having the correct (not necessarily the latest) version in the AP and SM, and setting prioritization in both the AP and SM for voice traffic. In addition, you need to watch and make sure that you have bandwidth set correctly and are getting the speeds you expect. If you had a marginal link, there is every possibility that you simply did not have sufficient bandwidth available to you in the upstream -forrest -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] test
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[WISPA] Ethernet Extenders
Can anyone offer any experiences with ethernet extenders? We are looking for an alternative to wireless backhaul in one of our ILEC towns. We own the copper and are looking to go up to 1 mile. We have looked at VDSL as an alternative also. This particular application requires 20mb/s full-duplex. Any knowledge or advise is appreciated. -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensing my BH Links
I use CTI Dragonwave. They will do the path analysis together and determine which frequency will give you the best performance based on distance, rain zones, etc. The path plus licensing cost is $2500. Contact Boun Senekham (bsenekham(at)cticonnect.com (773) 667-4585 x 840 http://www.cticonnect.com -Eric Smith, Rick wrote: How much does it cost to get path licenses ? I.e. if I want a xxxGhz license between point a and b, how much does it cost me ? What are the licensed bands we can use, and with what equipment ? R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mirrored Switch
Try the Zyxel ES-2008 series. It will do exactly what you need for a sub $200 price tag. -Eric Matt wrote: Does anyone reccommend a good switch that supports this and is rack mount? Hopefully available at newegg.com. Putting together a Linux server is easy but my luck a good switch might be backordered when I need it. Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE The good, the bad and the ugly please
Scriv, We use Redback for PPPoE authentication to around 15,000 subs. It's a breeze for customer accounting and really simplifies routing static IP's, subnets and private contexts. We are also in the VOIP arena where PPPoE has failed us. PPPoE encapsulation will strip most of your QoS. Keep that in mind. -Eric John Scrivner wrote: Are any of you running PPPoE on your client connections back to a PPPoE concentrator? Is this a good approach? I have heard that one big advantage of this is that you can setup Radius to set everything up for authentication very easily and that you can set every client up as their own individual subnet so that they are all routed back to your PPPoE concentrator / router in your office. I would think this would address many of the client to client radio traffic concerns of CALEA without changing any APs. Isn't this a fix for that one concern? Does that make sense? If not then why not? I like the idea of easily managing my accounts for turning them on or off for non-payment and automatically setting bandwidth rules. I use Radius in a big way for my existing dialup customer base and this sounds like the berries to me. I welcome other thoughts from those who are using or considering using PPPoE or similar techniques. Any alternatives which work better? Happy Easter guys and gals, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE The good, the bad and the ugly please
Once you encapsulate VoIP in PPPoE then QoS is unavailable to any device in the middle; which is where most of the bottlenecks in bandwidth are. So you gain something and lose something more important. We have moved all of our VOIP subscribers to DHCP w/ VLAN priorities that are mapped to Diffserve and related VoIP priorities however. This cannot be done easily or at all via PPPoE. -Eric Smith, Rick wrote: How so? -Original Message- We are also in the VOIP arena where PPPoE has failed us. PPPoE encapsulation will strip most of your QoS. Keep that in mind. -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE The good, the bad and the ugly please
You could, but I think your QoS would get very crippled. Each device between your ATA/PC and core router/softswitch would need to be able to read your QoS markings within the PPPoE encapsulation. You simply cannot prioritize tagged packets within PPPoE encapsulation end-to-end very efficiently. That has been our experience. -Eric Smith, Rick wrote: so, ok, can't you use pppoe for just client - tower ? QoS them all right at the tower sites... -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing
We have a stipulation in our AUP when the customer signs the initial contract that prohibits maximizing their connection for a sustained period of time. We enforce a 3 strike rule then kick 'em off-line if violated. If they choose to go with another provider then good riddance. Let the competition deal with them. -Eric John J. Thomas wrote: I am going to be specific here What mechanism do you have in place to 'protect' your network from the person that downloads 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you sold me a connection that was 256k for $39.99 I would feel that I have a right to use it as much as I want. I am not saying bit cap, I am saying tiered pricing. I am sure that most here can break their clients into 3 groups; 1. the people that rarely use their Internet, possibly 300-500 megabytes per month. 2. The average user that probably uses 2-5 Gigabytes per month. 3. The bandwidth hog that is using 20 Gigs plus per month and complains when their speed teest falls for 5 k bits per second. My argument is that ISPs need to have a mechanism to make the people in the last group either pay their fair share, or go somewhere else. John -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] remote power
http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html http://www.hw-group.com/products/ip_watchdog/index_lite_en.html http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=NET10332 http://dataprobe.com/products/power/index.html -Eric chris cooper wrote: Can anyone share what they use for remote power management/reboot devices? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Patrick Leary wrote: I have a very interesting new (this month) pdf about this topic that compares Canopy Advantage and BreezeACCESS VL in a variety of ways, from a coverage modeling example using high end propagation software to VoIP stats using company documents from both companies. We think it makes a clear case for BreezeACCESS VL, far beyond the simple front end cost discussions. It is 189k in size and would be great fodder for discussion here. If you want a copy, e-mail me offlist. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 Patrick, I would be very interested in obtaining this doc. My wireless department is comprised of roughly 90% Canopy gear (4,000 subs), which we are very happy with. However, we are always looking for greener pastures. Thank you, Eric Muehleisen Internet Technology Specialist Nex-Tech http://www.nex-tech.com 785.625.7070 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Dragonwave Cacti
Way off topic...but, does anyone who uses Dragonwave gear have any Cacti templates available? -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 18Ghz through power lines?
Getting ready to deploy 18Ghz DragonWave links. However, in the middle of my path is a set of 4 power lines (no transformer). Has anyone had any experience with this? Here is my path: DragonWave master - - - - -1/4 mile / power lines - - - - - 3 miles DragonWave slave -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Applying for Licensed Spectrum
How does one go about getting a license for deploying PTP backhaul links in the 11ghz to 18ghz band? -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
