Re: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

[Jason Guzzo]

Rob,

FirstLight purchased the assets of FingerLake Technologies and had Fiber Optic 
facilities in the area for Middle Mile.  Frontier was awarded funding in the 
New NY Broadband Grant in that general area along with Hughes (satellite). The 
closet WISP that I know of is Clarity Fiber Solutions in Ithaca, NY or NYSYS in 
Rochester, NY. 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doty
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:39 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; specifically 
the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [WISPA] Email Providers?

[Jason Champion]

Thanks, Troy!

I'll save you some time on the contact information as I have included mine
below. We host more than 1.2 million email boxes today on our platform so I
would love to discuss that with anyone interested in learning more. My
contact information is below so feel free to contact me off list if you'd
like.

Jason


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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:05 PM Troy Slagle  wrote:

> We use NeoNova when we went away from our own email servers.  They were
> fantastic to work with and the transition was relatively painless.  There
> is
> always a lot of work in the transition but they work with you every step of
> the way. You can hit me up off list and I can get you some contact info if
> you are interested in getting a quote.
>
> Troy A. Slagle
> Information Technology Manager
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> Behalf Of Tim Densmore
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 12:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: [WISPA] Email Providers?
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> We're looking at possibly migrating our customer mail from local servers to
> a cloud provider (full service, not a build-our-own at AWS/google/azure/etc
> hopefully), though the discussion is still very much at the "talking about
> it" stage.  Assuming that anyone here uses a cloud provider for email, does
> anyone on the list want to share who they are using and what their
> migration
> experience was like?  Pricing would also be great, assuming no NDA.
>
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Re: [WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance

[Jason Guzzo]

Sean,

Some of our fortune 500 clients require us to use the Avetta / PICS system.  
It’s a time consuming and expensive process costing around $800 - $1,000 
annually and mountains of paperwork.  Although we have not worked on SBA 
towers, we may add them to the list of eligible businesses.

We used U.S. Compliance Systems to prepare a safety manual for the Avetta 
System. Here is a link to purchase:  
https://www.uscompliancesystems.com/communication-tower-installation-contractors

I would caution against copy/pasting from manuals.  The Avetta system requires 
you to list a Compliance Officer to certify the accuracy of the information.  
By doing so, you may be accepting personal and professional liability.

Feel free to contact me offline, and I will be happy to step you thru the 
process.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Sean 
Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:38 PM
To: a...@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance

Hello gang,

one of the towers we've been on for many years was sold to SBA.  SBA is now 
requiring that we get compliance certification from Avetta.  We've filled out 
the entire LONG questionnaire for Avetta however at the end they are asking us 
to upload a PDF of our "Safety & Health documentation".

Has anyone else on the list gone thru this process?  Does anyone on the list 
have a "Safety and Health doc" they'd be willing to share that we could use as 
a template?

Best regards,

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Re: [WISPA] NEPA/SHPA Requirement

[Jason Guzzo]

Here is a consultant that we recommend:

Lisa Isabella
Environmental Project Coordinator
Infinigy 

lisabe...@infinigy.com
(518) 690-0790

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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:51 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NEPA/SHPA Requirement

Could anybody share a method of how to find people to actually do these 
required compliance studies?

Looking at a tower build, and I need to get a quote from a vendor, but I can't 
find any vendors. I'm sure that I must simply be using the wrong search terms 
or something.

On 1/12/2017 9:34 AM, Sam Morris wrote:
> (Sorry... SHPO, not SHPA)
>
> National Environmental Policy Act, and State Historical Preservation 
> Office. I'm not a lawyer, and I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express 
> last night, but the way I understand it, they are legal requirements 
> pertaining to new structures that are going to hold radio equipment 
> that uses licensed (or lightly-licensed?) frequencies, and makes a 
> requirements to go through a certification process from these two 
> offices. NEPA
> (https://www.epa.gov/nepa/national-environmental-policy-act-review-pro
> cess) is an EPA requirement, and SHPO, 
> (https://www.nps.gov/Nr/shpolist.htm)
> as it has pertained to us, is primarily native-Americans inspecting 
> the site and certifying that you're not desecrating sacred ground.
>
> I know it's a requirements if the structure holds 11 Ghz, 220 Mhz, 6 
> Ghz, etc. I don't know if it is also a requirements if it's the 3.65 
> type of license, hence my question. :)
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
> On 1/12/2017 8:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> NEPA/SHPA? Educate me pls
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2017 7:05 AM, "Sam Morris" > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  Good Morning,
>>
>>  It's my understanding that if a new structure that will hold only
>>  non-licensed equipment is built, that NEPA/SHPA certification isn't
>>  required. What about 3.65 equipment? Since it's "lightly licensed",
>>  where would a new structure (where 3.65 equipment will reside) fall with
>>  regards to the NEPA/SHPA requirement?
>>
>>  Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] NEPA/SHPA Requirement

[Jason Guzzo]

Here is a link to view the FCC's rules on Tower and Antenna Siting.  
https://www.fcc.gov/general/tower-and-antenna-siting

We have been able to get an NPA compliance letter  
(http://wireless.fcc.gov/releases/da010691a.pdf) for most of our co-location 
sites.  

New tower construction requires going thru the TCNS / Section 106 Review 
Process:  https://wireless2.fcc.gov/ulsclogin/index.htm

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sam Morris
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:56 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NEPA/SHPA Requirement

On 1/12/2017 9:53 AM, Henry N. Chappell II wrote:
> Josh,
>
> No, the NEPA & SHPO is required in all states for all new structures 
> with licensed and unlicensed equipment.

Henry, we have been told by the FCC that it's not required if the structure 
will hold only unlicensed equipment. I have a query into them regarding the 
lightly-licensed (3.65) radios, but it takes a while to hear back from them. I 
posted here hoping to expedite my question somewhat. :)


>  Original message 
> From: Josh Reynolds 
> Date: 1/12/17 9:42 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NEPA/SHPA Requirement
>
> This seems to be only required in certain areas, correct? Mainly on or 
> near areas of historical or religious significance?
>
> On Jan 12, 2017 9:35 AM, "Sam Morris"  <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
>
> (Sorry... SHPO, not SHPA)
>
> National Environmental Policy Act, and State Historical Preservation
> Office. I'm not a lawyer, and I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express
> last night, but the way I understand it, they are legal requirements
> pertaining to new structures that are going to hold radio equipment that
> uses licensed (or lightly-licensed?) frequencies, and makes a
> requirements to go through a certification process from these two
> offices. NEPA
> (https://www.epa.gov/nepa/national-environmental-policy-act-review-process
> 
> <https://www.epa.gov/nepa/national-environmental-policy-act-review-process>)
> is an EPA requirement, and SHPO,
> (https://www.nps.gov/Nr/shpolist.htm
> <https://www.nps.gov/Nr/shpolist.htm>)
> as it has pertained to us, is primarily native-Americans inspecting the
> site and certifying that you're not desecrating sacred ground.
>
> I know it's a requirements if the structure holds 11 Ghz, 220 Mhz, 6
> Ghz, etc. I don't know if it is also a requirements if it's the 3.65
> type of license, hence my question. :)
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
> On 1/12/2017 8:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>  > NEPA/SHPA? Educate me pls
>  >
>  > On Jan 12, 2017 7:05 AM, "Sam Morris"  <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>
>  > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>>> wrote:
>  >
>  > Good Morning,
>  >
>  > It's my understanding that if a new structure that will hold only
>  > non-licensed equipment is built, that NEPA/SHPA certification
> isn't
>  > required. What about 3.65 equipment? Since it's "lightly
> licensed",
>  > where would a new structure (where 3.65 equipment will
> reside) fall with
>  > regards to the NEPA/SHPA requirement?
>  >
>  > Thanks!
>  > Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Coverage in Charlotte, MI

[Jason Bailey]

What is the address? May be able to help.
Jason 

On Friday, August 12, 2016 7:23 PM, "Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net" 
 wrote:
 

 I am looking for a WISP in Charlottle, MI area.  This is a city south of 
Lansing, MI.  Have a person searching for service.
Thank you,
Troy
Byhalia.net, LLC


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Re: [WISPA] 2dbi vs 3dbi vs 5 dbi vs 100mw vs 400mw

[Jason Bailey]

Higher gain,lower power works best,in almost any situation. 

 On Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM, Colton Conor 
 wrote:
   

 We are comparing multiple SOHO routers and modems that have the same Broadcom 
chipsets. All of them have 802.11N 2x2 configuration. The only differences 
between them are if they have internal or external antennas and the gain of the 
antennas (either 2, 3, or 5dbi ratings). In addition, some sell a high powered 
wifi radio (400mw) while others have the basic (100mw).
How much a difference does each of these hardware features make in overall wifi 
performance?
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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released

[Jason Bailey]

I still can't find it either? Anyone else find the pricing?


On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
 


where is price on this? cant find it on website

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Jaime Fink  wrote:


Joe & Adair



Pricing details will be officially released in our press release at 8am PST, on 
our website www.mimosa.co, and products on display at the Streakwave Building 
Bridges event in San Francisco starting tomorrow. 

2 more hours guys!



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On Aug 5, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Adair Winter  wrote:

What's something like this going to cost? Or is that still a highly guarded 
secret? :)
>
>
>
>On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
>http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Gino A. Villarini
>>President
>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>www.aeronetpr.com   
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Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?

[Jason Bailey]

I've had 2 lines with Republic since the early beta. Upgraded them to Moto-X's 
and couldn't be happier!


On Friday, May 23, 2014 7:16 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
 


They've been doing this for a couple years now.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



From: "TJ Trout" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 12:58:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?


I've been wonding when this would happen, hopefully this will go main stream, I 
don't know why it hasn't already. All networks are suffering and wifi offload 
seems like an answer. I want to be able to make calls like I'm on network but 
when I only have wifi coverage.




On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

https://republicwireless.com/
>
>Sprint MVNO with WiFi <-> cellular handoffs.
>
>Also tried to resell\white-label and they weren't ready for that either.
>
>
>
>
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>>
>
>From: "Gino Villarini" 
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:24:06 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market  with Wifi gear?
>
>
>What bandwidth.com do? I don’t seem to grasp the whole deal…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>President
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>www.aeronetpr.com   
>@aeronetpr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Mike Hammett 
>Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 at 6:46 PM
>To: WISPA General List 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?
>
>
>
>*nods* I reached out to the guys that Bandwidth.com started up, but they said 
>they were too early in the business to worry about stuff like that.
>
>Hotspot 2.0 (according to the hype) could be nice for us - doing last mile to 
>the WiFi networks.
>
>
>
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>>
> 
>From: "Gino Villarini" 
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:17:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market  with Wifi gear?
>
>
>I think this is something Wispa could/should manage as part of WISPA 
>strategic/business development area
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>President
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>www.aeronetpr.com   
>@aeronetpr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Steve Barnes 
>Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM
>To: WISPA General List 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?
>
>
>
>The future is going to be interesting for sure.
> 
>A few questions come to mind. 
>Is there a business model where WISP’s can partner with a Google or Microsoft 
>to help advance our offerings or would you be just selling your soul to Satan.
>How do you compete against that level of investment if they start putting up 
>hotspots to offload from the LTE networks in your area since that will most 
>likely destroy 2.4 and 5.7-8 bands.
> 
>Steve Barnes
>General Manager
>PCSWIN.com
>Howard LLC.
> 
>From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>Of Gino Villarini
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:19 PM
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>Subject: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?
> 
>http://gigaom.com/2014/05/21/google-reportedly-plans-to-target-businesses-with-wi-fi/?
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] pay per use billing

[Jason Bailey]

We have many seasonals. We decided to give them two options. Annual 
payment,providing a one month discount. The most popular is our seasonal plan. 
We bill from the day they return and call for service to be restored till 
November 15. We send an invoice for the total.Keeps it simple for us. We wait 
till about Dec.1st and shut all seasonals off. No maintenance fees.No 
complaints.
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:00 AM, "wi...@mncomm.com"  wrote:
 
Possibly. We just recently got into hot spot last year at some state camp 
grounds. I might be a little grey in that area. We just set up a tower at a 
resort site where people have their fishing trailers, but they are willing to 
pay our full monthly and auto suspend when the weather gets cold 
From: ralph 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] pay per use billing
 

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Re: [WISPA] FS: RocketDish + Rocket M2s

[Jason Bailey]

Blair,I think Chris is in Hemlock.
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:41 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
 
I'm wondering where the seller is...  If in the mid-west, I'm interested...

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On 4/6/2014 2:22 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:

My mistake
I thought I was answering the seller
NGL
From: Blair Davis 
>Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:09 AM
>To: WISPA General List 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FS: RocketDish + Rocket M2s
>
>
Where are you/they?
>
>--
>
>On 4/4/2014 9:36 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
>
>I have a surplus of Ubiquiti RD-2G24 2ft dishes with Rocket M2s attached. Used 
>working pulls. $150ea or quantity discount, plus shipping.  
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Light Duty self-support

[Jason Bailey]

Chris,check out Universal,they build them here in Michigan. We have a few of 
them. Great solution and price!

http://www.universaltowers.com/products.html




On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:49 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
 
We have a few Tycon towers like that.  They are great if you have a bucket 
truck.  I feel like I'm climbing on tinfoil once I get near the top.  Pretty 
sketchy...



On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Rohn does a self supporter right around 100 feet.  Customer did it himself a 
while back.
>Josh Luthman
>Office: 937-552-2340
>Direct: 937-552-2343
>1100 Wayne St
>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>On Mar 27, 2014 9:32 AM, "Chris Fabien"  wrote:
>
>Who is your first call for an economical self support tower for a customer to 
>clear trees? 
>>
>>
>>We typically build guyed Rohn 25 towers but this customer doesn't want guy 
>>wires. 
>>
>>
>>Needs to be 100ft and enough wind load to hold a small repeater site, maybe 
>>10 sqft.  
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Re: [WISPA] Level 3

[Jason Bailey]

We are re-routed onto our Sprint fiber path and things are good. Level 3 seems 
to be the target as we have been seeing lately. Thank the good lord for 
bgp. 



On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:41 AM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
 
Are we the only ones getting beaten up right now? We can only get random pings 
through. We peer in at Chicago. Seems the buck stops there..Support seems 
overwhelmed. 
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[WISPA] Level 3

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Are we the only ones getting beaten up right now? We can only get random pings 
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Re: [WISPA] Net Hatchet ethernet interface appliance

[Jason Bailey]

Good find. I have never used these,but I am going to order one and give it a try.   On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:28 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:


 

 



Anyone used one of these to monitor a solar battery setup?
Any comments?
Thanx
NGL

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[Jason Bailey]

Chuck has it right. See below.
33.
Antenna Gain. Under Section 15.247, the assumed antenna gain is 6 dBi, with a 1 
dB 
reduction in power required for every 1 dB that the antenna gain exceeds 6 dBi. 
For fixed point-to-point 
systems, no power reduction is required. Section 15.407 assumes the same 
antenna gain of 6 dBi, with 1 
dB reduction in power required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 6 dBi. For 
fixed point-to-point systems, 
a 1 dB reduction in power is required for every 1 dB that gain exceeds 23 dBi. 
The only difference 
between the two rule parts is the maximum antenna gain that can be deployed 
without a penalty in 
transmitter power. We propose to apply the more stringent 23 dBi maximum 
antenna gain that is 
currently required under Section 15.407. We believe that using the more 
stringent antenna gain 
requirement will ensure that there is no increase in the potential for 
interference from unlicensed devices 
operating under the new combined rule parts. 




On Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:32 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
 
Revision of Part 15 of the Commission’s Rules to Permit Unlicensed National 
Information 
Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET Docket No. 13-49.



Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try to 
discern public information from internal information.
>
>
>
>
>
>-
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>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
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>>
>
>From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
>
>
>
>Chuck,
>Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically 
>discussing?
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>
>People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper 
>configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz band.  
>It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's webinar 
>about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be allowed any 
>longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are not running your 
>equipment inappropriately.
>>
>>
>>Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the 
>>process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes  
>>wrote:
>>
>>The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you just 
>>>said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on 
>>>frequencies they are not authorized to be on. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Please pack up and go home. 
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of 
>>>these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that 
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 
runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with 
it.
Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
5170-5875.


Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more 
money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both 
wisps and consumers.

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Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming?

[Jason Bailey]

We use Cisco/Meraki mx series routers. They have all the toys and give you a 
good view of your users and usage patterns.
https://meraki.cisco.com/products/appliances




On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:44 PM, timothy steele  
wrote:
 
Anyone still using NETEQ these days?
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Dennis Burgess  wrote:

yep, normally we just look at large connections and limit overall bandwidth, 
the best way is still to bill per bit once over..  All of that would require 
intergration into a billing system, or a billing system that does it already :) 
>
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>Edition" 
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>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>Of Matt Jenkins 
>Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 1:22 PM 
>To: WISPA General List 
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming? 
>
>And keep up with it on a daily basis as each video streaming company makes 
>changes. 
>
>On 01/02/2014 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>> or a lot of time developing regexs and other things needed for 
>> Mikrotik or various other routing\firewall engines. 
>> 
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>> *From: *"Matt Jenkins"  
>> *To: *"joey craig" , "WISPA General List" 
>>  
>> *Sent: *Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:00:49 PM 
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming? 
>> 
>> To regulate a specific application (Video Streaming) you will need a 
>> product like Procera. 
>> 
>> On 12/31/2013 10:55 AM, Joey Craig wrote: 
>> > 
>> > My employer is looking for a solution to monitor, regulate and bill 
>> > for video streaming to the customer if he/she goes over a 
>> > predetermined amount per month. Whether this is done by an add-on 
>> > appliance, software on a server or an added feature in a radius 
>> > server, etc. 
>> > 
>> > Does anyone know of such a solution? 
>> > 
>> > Joey Craig 
>> > 
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium ePMP1000 question about sync

[Jason Bailey]

The base-station radios each have a built in gps rec. with an included gps 
antenna. No extra hardware. Yes,you can do abab frequencies.



On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:05 AM, Scott Carullo 
 wrote:
 
I'm not familiar with cambiums new product or how their sync works so I have a 
question.

If I purchase 4 APs with sectors that supports GPS sync...  Do I have 
everything I need to utilize the sync feature between APs or is there 
additional hardware or accessories that I'd have to purchase to use the sync?  

What are the sync options?  N & S AP on freq 5780 and E & W AP on 5830 for 
instance?  Or will it support all APs even on one freq?

Basic questions but I have not been able to find the answers on their online 
info.  Thanks


Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

[Jason Bailey]

Do a little searching on the UBNT forums. There were a few batches of the 
AirGrid HP's that had this issue. I installed about ten of them. I then 
replaced 10 of them with grid/bullets and scrapped them.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:55 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 wrote:
 
dear all

lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:

1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not 
working)

Is that happening to you too?

Regards

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Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

[Jason Bailey]

That's why I said antenna. It happened frequently after changing the antenna.

--- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum  wrote:

From: David Hannum 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 10:01 AM

Moisture is not an issue.  Good drip loops on both the antenna cable and CAT-5 
Cables.  We actually sealed the entry of the radio with mastic to be sure.  The 
first radio lasted about 10 months.  When it went, we first swapped antennas, 
thinking maybe a lightning strike damaged it (we've had the same effect on 
signal from bad antenna).  That did nothing to help, so we next swapped the 
radio.  Signal back.  That lasted about four weeks.  Swapped radio again, and 
signal back.  Lasted about 12 hours this time.

 No visible damage to any of the radios.  No moisture found inside.  We don't 
have capability to test in-house.  Will send to SWG or Wireless Units to have 
them take a look. Dave Hannum

New Era Broadband 

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Fred Goldstein  wrote:


On 6/13/2013 7:43 AM, David Hannum wrote:

> We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is the

> situation.  We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a

> few homes around it.  So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP

> on the tower, both on Omni's.  The antennas are on a stand almost

> exactly 4' apart.  There are six subs on the 900MHz radio.  About a

> month ago, I had an issue where (after about 9 months) the signal to all

> of the customers just faded out, to the point that only two subs were

> still good.  I swapped the antenna and that did not help.  I swapped the

> radio, and that fixed the problem.  Trouble is, it only lasted about

> three weeks, and the same thing happened again.  I swapped the radio

> again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat.  The radio in the

> AP keeps going out.  I had the climbers check the grounding, and we

> actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank.  My knee

> jerk feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and

> the 2450 is burning up the 900.  Could this be the case?  Any ideas?

> Here is an example of what happens.  Customers that run signals -47 to

> -57 become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear

> off.  Swap the radio, and everything goes back to normal.  This is now

> three radios that have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the

> previous.  (this one did not make it 24 hours).

> I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded

> area.  But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the radio.

> Thoughts?



Interesting mystery!  Clearly you don't want to blow more radios this way.



Any more clues about what may have happened right before the failures?

I'm wondering about weather events.  Did it fail after a rain storm?

Water coming in to the radio or corroding the antenna connectors might

result.  And if the antenna's connector is flaky, re-attaching it to a

new radio might be a temporary fix, but reattaching it to an old radio

might "fix" it too (temporariy).  Have you examined the broken radios in

the shop?



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Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

[Jason Bailey]

Antenna has a dead short. Just a guess.

--- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum  wrote:

From: David Hannum 
Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 7:43 AM

We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is the 
situation.  We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a few 
homes around it.  So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the 
tower, both on Omni's.  The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart.  
There are six subs on the 900MHz radio.  About a month ago, I had an issue 
where (after about 9 months) the signal to all of the customers just faded out, 
to the point that only two subs were still good.  I swapped the antenna and 
that did not help.  I swapped the radio, and that fixed the problem.  Trouble 
is, it only lasted about three weeks, and the same thing happened again.  I 
swapped the radio again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat.  The 
radio in the AP keeps going out.  I had the climbers check the grounding, and 
we actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank.  My knee jerk 
feeling today is that maybe
 the radios are too close together, and the 2450 is burning up the 900.  Could 
this be the case?  Any ideas?  

 Here is an example of what happens.  Customers that run signals -47 to -57 
become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear off.  Swap 
the radio, and everything goes back to normal.  This is now three radios that 
have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the previous.  (this one did 
not make it 24 hours).

 I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded area.  
But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the radio. Thoughts? 

Dave HannumNew Era Broadband

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[WISPA] As if the spectrum wasn't trashed already.

[Jason Bailey]

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Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

[Jason Bailey]

If they worked,- the 900 and adding 3.65 I would buy a whole bunch of them!

--- On Sat, 2/9/13, Mike Hammett  wrote:

From: Mike Hammett 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Saturday, February 9, 2013, 6:53 PM

What's the status of this antenna?

Any plans for 3.65 GHz support?

What are the azimuth\elevation beamwidths?

Any consideration for noise between radios in the same antenna enclosure (ie: 
Ubiquiti 3.65 hearing a 5 GHz radio too loudly?

Any consideration for noise between radios in other antenna enclosures?




Does anyone else make antennas like this?



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To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:06:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!



Hi Gino, 

I wonder if our new 3 in 1 Sector Antenna design will be useful in this 
application that you mention here. 

We are designing this to save space and lower tower costs and we can fit 
different frequencies, gains & polarization. 

We will also be able to mix Sector and Panel antennas in the same enclosure. 

Our first standard model will be 3 Sectors: 900Mhz 11dBi Dual, 2.4GHz 15dBi 
Dual & 5GHz 18dBi Dual. 

We would really like some input on what combinations of antennas would be more 
useful for different markets. 

Pedro Ramirez 
Itelite Antennas, Inc 

On 01-Nov-12 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: 







I would like to see a Multiband Mimo PMP System similar to what is being 
developed in the LTE-Advanced RF protocol, where a BaseStation can use various 
spectrum bands to talk to CPEs… 



Imaging having an AP with multiple RF Sections using 2.4,3.x,5.x and aggregate 
all bands in a single Layer 1 medium to the CPE…also could split the 
downlink/uplink in various bands…youll need sync, plus some special sauce to 
organize Spectrum availability and Identify external interference.. but all 
that could be achieve out of the AP in a Cloud controller… 



So whos the taker? 



Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

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[WISPA] DirecTv On-Demand

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Is it just me,or is everyone being bombarded with constant traffic from the new 
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Re: [WISPA] Revised - Bullet in Station WDS

[Jason Bailey]

Yes,both ubnt devices need to be in wds mode for the bridge to be layer 2 transparent.--- On Thu, 1/3/13, ~NGL~  wrote:From: ~NGL~ Subject: [WISPA] Revised - Bullet in Station WDSTo: "WISPA General List" Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 11:43 AM


 

 



 

  Do both tht Access Point and the Station have to be WDS node to have the 
  station in level 2.
  I need this station to communicate with a Tranzeo 902 Access Point when 
  hard wired togeather.
  In Station Mode only the 802 does not have a DHCP source.
  Thanx
  NGL
  


  
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[WISPA] Wireless SLA for business class customers

[Jason Green]

Does anyone mind sharing their Service Level Agreement (SLA) for business
customers?  We are about to deploy Radwin HSU 510,520 and 550 units and
will offer our customers business class service with an SLA.



Thanks in advance!



*Jason P Green | Director of Sales & Marketing*

*M2 Connections, **a div. of JKM Consulting, Inc.***

*www.m2connections.com*

*E:*  *jgr...@m2connections.com*

*O:*  256.405.4311  |  *M:*  256.282.0188  |  *F:*  888.786.9503

1865 Hillyer Robinson Parkway  |  Anniston, AL  |  36207
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Re: [WISPA] Has Anyone seen this on 3.65

[Jason Bailey]

Do you have 5gig stuff co-located at the site?

--- On Fri, 10/5/12, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

From: Eric Muehleisen 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Has Anyone seen this on 3.65
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, October 5, 2012, 5:28 PM

That sounds about right. Noise at -55 is awfully loud. They'd need to be right 
on top of you.
-Eric

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Michael Geary  
wrote:

Good Evening Christian,

This had happened on some our APs. We had to replace them because of 
manufacturers defect that our AP cards were "bleeding"


There is a pretty lengthy post on Ubiquiti's forums as well



http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=33880
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On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Christian Palecek  
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We started having some issues with one of our ubiquiti 3.65 AP’s.  Everything 
has been working great for a while but recently it runs horrible.  Lot’s of 
packet loss and plenty of speed complaints.


 I ran a spectrum analysis from the AP itself and another we have on another 
tower about 10 miles WNW.  We use serveral different types of 3.65 equipment, 
but this is the first time we have had issues with any of them.  Everything is 
registered.  Everything looked clean on the spectrum views before but now, not 
so much. 


 Spectrum views attached.  FromCor.png is the affected access point. -Christian 
Palecek


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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

[Jason Hensley]

I have used them in the past and they were fantastic!  I don't think I ever
had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found.  I
connected to them in St. Louis for what  it's worth



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Adam Greene
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

Hi all,

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe.
Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive
or negative?

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

[Jason Bailey]

Looks good here in Michigan. I tested against 3 others locally and results look 
comparable.

--- On Thu, 8/30/12, Ralph  wrote:

From: Ralph 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012, 7:07 PM

Oops  again. Sorry, I changed the text of the link but not the link.  
http://brightlan.net/page26.html      From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?  Duh. 
Sorry.http://brightlan.net/page26.html    From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?  I have just finished installing 
Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would like some help testing it.If you 
have a “big pipe”, it would be especially helpful to have your feedback.  
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Re: [WISPA] What's this 900mhz Interference look like?

[Jason Bailey]

Chris,I am a ham and wisp down in Jackson. I know all to well what this is. ATV 
 amateur television. I see it on mine as well. A friend operates an amateur tv 
repeater on 910.250 near Lansing and the band is OPEN lately.  I was just 
changing frequencies to get around it this morning. Hit me off-list and I can 
give you more info if you like. Jason
--- On Sat, 8/25/12, Chris Fabien  wrote:

From: Chris Fabien 
Subject: [WISPA] What's this 900mhz Interference look like?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 10:16 AM

I've got an interference problem affecting two of my 900mhz towers.
Attached is a Airview scan of what I'm seeing, the 910mhz signal is
the concern. It is intermittent, usually occurring in the early to mid
morning for a few minutes or up to hours.

My first thought is baby monitor/cordless phone but I'm seeing it on
the south facing sector of two towers, separated by 3 miles
north-south distance. The south tower sees it at around a -60 and the
north tower around a -70. These are 100-120ft towers in a heavily
wooded area, I would not expect ground-level interference to be
visible from both, right?.

So, any suggestions as to possible sources? Driving around with an
antenna is my next step, but hard to do on an intermittent signal.

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Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

[Jason Bailey]

Thanks Rick!

--- On Thu, 8/23/12, Rick Harnish  wrote:

From: Rick Harnish 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
To: "'WISPA General List'" , a...@afmug.com, us...@wug.cc, 
color...@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 6:18 PM

Andrew,  (Andrew MacRae from the NTIA is BCC’d)  There seems to be some 
discrepancy in the Colorado and Michigan Data.  Can you assist as to why Wisp 
coverage is not represented?  Please read the email below my signature line.  
Also, here are some other comments from other providers.  · Merrill, 
MI: Our coverage area is not displayed on that map. Is it only including 
wireline providers?  · Jackson, MI:  My coverage update for the 2nd to 
last round is not there, but the rest is. The map is for 3Meg svc. and up also. 
 · Steamboat Springs: If you hover over a county a popup chart on the 
right shows up and displays the demographics for that county and % of broadband 
that is Fiber, Cable, DSL, or fixed wireless.  both the counties we serve show 
0% fixed wireless.  · Yuma: wow, they have my area as covered as 
NON-Rural DSL and Cable no wireless links at all..I think someone
 "fixed" the books on this info. As its completely BS..  1. everything out here 
in our area is Rural..2. No wireless listed at ALL ( there are 2 providers 
ourselves and the telco to the south of us) 3. The local cable company has only 
a handful of customers 4. says that over 3500 folks in my county have NO 
internet.. Complete and total BS.. This is farm country and I'd PAY to find 
more than 50 homes that don't have internet.  Again.. the books have been 
cooked, thanks to either bad info or competition.    Where there is a Wisp, 
there is a way!  Respectfully,  Rick HarnishExecutive DirectorWISPA260-307-4000 
cell866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA OfficeSkype: 
rick.harnish.rharnish@wispa.orgadm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)          > 
-Original Message-> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On> Behalf Of Sean Heskett> Sent: Thursday, 
August 23, 2012 5:29 PM> To: wireless@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc;
 color...@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report> > Hi 
all,> > Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems 
troubling to me.  We> submitted our coverage data to the state of Colorado and 
they submitted our> data for the national map.  However, this FCC broadband 
deployment report> includes this map which doesn't show our coverage.> > 
Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report> Map: 
http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map> > What 
gives???  WISPA???> > Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not 
included?> > Best regards,> > > Sean Heskett> ZIRKEL Wireless> High-speed 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

[Jason Bailey]

My coverage update for the 2nd to last round is not there,but the rest is. The 
map is for 3Meg svc. and up also.

--- On Thu, 8/23/12, Sean Heskett  wrote:

From: Sean Heskett 
Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report
To: wireless@wispa.org, a...@afmug.com, us...@wug.cc, color...@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 5:28 PM

Hi all,

Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems
troubling to me.  We submitted our coverage data to the state of
Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map.  However,
this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't
show our coverage.

Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map

What gives???  WISPA???

Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included?

Best regards,


Sean Heskett
ZIRKEL Wireless
High-speed Internet

www.zirkelwireless.com
970-871-8500
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question

[Jason Bailey]

What was the previous ap?

--- On Tue, 8/7/12, Bob Moldashel  wrote:

From: Bob Moldashel 
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 6:58 PM

OK   Quick question

Have a unit new out of the box will not connect to any subs.  Set up as 
an AP, 20 Mhz channel, 2.4 Ghz channel 1.

What am I missing???

Any input is appreciated.

-B-
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Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers

[Jason Bailey]

Never thought I could laugh so hard at 7 am on Saturday!

--- On Fri, 8/3/12, Mike Hammett  wrote:

From: Mike Hammett 
Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, August 3, 2012, 10:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xgyQy7TG_Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player



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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Jason Bailey]

700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?

--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer  wrote:

From: Victoria Proffer 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM

How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?  Victoria ProfferSTLWiMAX, 
LLC314-720-1000  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?  Anyone remember when sprint did this? The 
support headache killed it quickly

--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini  wrote:
From: Gino Villarini 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PMOldNews

Sent from my Motorola Startac...    
On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Jason Bailey"  
wrote:http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Jason Bailey]

Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it quickly

--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini  wrote:

From: Gino Villarini 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM



 


Old
News



Sent from my Motorola Startac... 






On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Jason Bailey"  wrote:










http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html









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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Jason Bailey]

Actually:
 $60 a month for 10 gigabytes.
• $90 a month for 20 gigabytes.
• $120 a month for 30 gigabytes. 
--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Justin Wilson  wrote:

From: Justin Wilson 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 5:50 PM

Data plans: $50 for 5 GB, $80 for 10 GB. $10 extra per 1 GB over. 
That’s why it doesn't worry me one bit.
From:  Jason Bailey Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PMTo:  WISPA General 
List Subject:  Re: [WISPA] 4g?

http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html

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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Jason Bailey]

http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html


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Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

[Jason Bailey]

Way out-dated..but it's good here too.

--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

From: Chuck Hogg 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 10:02 PM

Works for me
Regards,
Chuck



On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:

Worked for me



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Behalf Of Sam Tetherow

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?



Yes.



On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else?

>

> http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm

>

> Josh Luthman

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> Direct: 937-552-2343

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Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

[Jason Hensley]

Saw this once when I was masquerading ALL of my clients to one IP address.  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Theis
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

 


This all started last Wednesday.  We have had about 15 WiFi customers that
are all getting the same symptoms. Pages will not load properly (attached
screenshots).  i.e. youtube.com video boxes are just solid black with no way
to play, this includes videos on msn, yahoo, etc.
  
Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached, ignore the
teamviewer box on the images).  If someone is able to login to the yahoo
email they cannot check boxes to delete messages and with hotmail they
cannot select the emails at all.  We have not been able to isolate any
commonalities between the customer's computers, operating systems, antivirus
software, routers, radios, frequency, and even access points. At one point,
we thought that we had the problem narrowed down to Netgear routers but
after having a customer bypass it, issue still occurred. 

One of the customers had a computer consultant come look at their system and
when they switched to the consultants MyFi the problem stopped... Then as
soon as they went back onto our WiFi connection, the problem returned. 

Has anyone had something like this happen to your network?  Any ideas on
where to look next? 
-- 

Thanks!


Mark Theis 
Chief Technology Officer
Southern California Telephone & Energy - SCT&E

1278 Glenneyre Street #76 Laguna Beach, CA  92651
Direct: 951.294.5112 | Cell: 951.545.1013 | Fax: 949.715.5511

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Jason Bailey]

Looks to be powered by the stock cpe's poe. We need one that does both.

--- On Mon, 4/30/12, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)  
wrote:

From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012, 5:00 PM



 
 

Hmmm, anyone using them?  Who stocks 
them?
 
What do you do, plug your own power brick into 
it?  That would kind of defete the purpose wouldn't it?  That's not 
really much different than a standard install.
 
thanks,
marlon
 

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  McKenzie 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer 
  Routers
  
Marlon,

In response to your statement:

  
  
Some days I just wish the POE had a wifi 
  router built into it so we could include wifi like the telco does these 
  days.

ARC makes one.  It's the iFlex 
  indoor AP.  You could use any brand of POE (including Moto) from 9-24VDC 
  to power the device and then passthrough power to a client device on the 
  roof.


  
  Thanks,
  Ryan 
  McKenzie 
On 
  4/30/12 11:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: 
  



We use mainly Linksys units.  They are a 
bit more expensive but we don't deal with warranty issues etc.
 
I'll install them at hookup if the customer 
wants one.
 
We've been trying the ones from Readylink but 
so far the jury is out on them.  Sometimes they work nicely, other 
customers have nothing but trouble with them.  Half the cost of the 
Linksys and better antennas.
 
Some days I just wish the POE had a wifi router 
built into it so we could include wifi like the telco does these 
days.
 
marlon
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:31 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Customer 
  Routers
  
Hey guys, 
  

  What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you 
  include them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10 
  Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some 
  problems.  Could be a bad batch.
  

  I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with 
  external antennas and pretty good reviews.
  

  TP-Link TL-WR841N
  

  What are you guys 
  using?

  
-- 
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Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?

[Jason Bailey]

No,I'm not. I was just saying we sure could use it!!!

--- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves  wrote:

From: Jeromie Reeves 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:32 AM

Are you a cell co? I do not see anyone with out deep pockets getting
the RF. Not unless the FCC does this auction in very small
chunks.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Jason Bailey  wrote:
>
> That is exactly what I was thinking. We sure could use it!
>
> --- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves  wrote:
>
>
> From: Jeromie Reeves 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:22 AM
>
>
> Right. This is the next part of the puzzle. John Scrivner wrong to the
> list a email titled [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is
> buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi.
>
> This auction sums up my post in that thread. The cellco's are getting
> smarter about what the users want and about how to
> deliver it to them. Look at the partnerships that cellco's are making
> with cable co's. The cable companies already have large
> high speed footprints. Its trivial to throw a cable modem with a AP in
> it onto a pole. Suddenly you have a very large roamable
> footprint, if only that wifi chipset had a little more cellular sauce
> in it. Atheros chips very well could do it with some good
> firmware, look at Ubnt. They are pretty close with their GPS, for a
> small in house project. Look at what Ubnt did with just a
> highly experienced RF team? AirFiber. Now do the same with more money
> and in a cellular project aimed at very small and
> very fast cells. Sky is not falling, yet.
>
> Jeromie
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:54 AM,   wrote:
> > I see that going to the cellular guys.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:57:16 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] More spectrum?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502
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Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?

[Jason Bailey]

That is exactly what I was thinking. We sure could use it!

--- On Mon, 4/2/12, Jeromie Reeves  wrote:

From: Jeromie Reeves 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More spectrum?
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 9:22 AM

Right. This is the next part of the puzzle. John Scrivner wrong to the
list a email titled [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is
buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi.

This auction sums up my post in that thread. The cellco's are getting
smarter about what the users want and about how to
deliver it to them. Look at the partnerships that cellco's are making
with cable co's. The cable companies already have large
high speed footprints. Its trivial to throw a cable modem with a AP in
it onto a pole. Suddenly you have a very large roamable
footprint, if only that wifi chipset had a little more cellular sauce
in it. Atheros chips very well could do it with some good
firmware, look at Ubnt. They are pretty close with their GPS, for a
small in house project. Look at what Ubnt did with just a
highly experienced RF team? AirFiber. Now do the same with more money
and in a cellular project aimed at very small and
very fast cells. Sky is not falling, yet.

Jeromie

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> I see that going to the cellular guys.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason Bailey" 
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:57:16 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] More spectrum?
>
>
>
> http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502
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[WISPA] More spectrum?

[Jason Bailey]

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/fcc-carves-out-another--mhz-forms-spectrum-auction-task-force/212502
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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Jason Bailey]

What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and 
pointed it toward the majority of customers.

--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo  wrote:

From: Eduardo 
Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM



 
 
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I have some customers inside a 
1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket M900 with an omni 
antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find 
any 
MIMO 900MHz omni available.
 
Does anyone have 
any experience doing this?
 
Thanks,
Eduardo
Webjogger Internet 
Services
www.webjogger.net
 

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Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites

[Jason Bailey]

Seems like maintaining an annually update list that has what each wisp could 
offer,if needed. Climbers,I.T. guru's with what level 
of networking skill,bucket trucks etc..

--- On Wed, 2/22/12, Josh Luthman  wrote:

From: Josh Luthman 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during 
recovery/disaster sites
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 5:29 PM

Couldn't they just reach the WISPA members list?

http://www.wispa.org/member-directory

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Zach Mann  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Being that this list covers all 50 states, I wanted to throw out the idea of
> getting folks on-board and assembled to help a company that has a sole focus
> of providing relief/disaster response.  These WISP's/Individuals would
> basically be on stand-by and would be able to assist if needed.
>
> If a tornado event like Joplin took place, this company could call on the
> nearest WISP on the list to help bring up communications asap.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
> Zach Mann
> 913.710.7220
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Re: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during recovery/disaster sites

[Jason Bailey]

I'm in. You need to get with Rick Harnish to organize this.

--- On Wed, 2/22/12, Zach Mann  wrote:

From: Zach Mann 
Subject: [WISPA] Providing Data to rescue/rebuilding teams during 
recovery/disaster sites
To: wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 5:27 PM

Hello All,
Being that this list covers all 50 states, I wanted to throw out the idea of 
getting folks on-board and assembled to help a company that has a sole focus of 
providing relief/disaster response.  These WISP's/Individuals would basically 
be on stand-by and would be able to assist if needed.

If a tornado event like Joplin took place, this company could call on the 
nearest WISP on the list to help bring up communications asap.
Is this possible?  


Zach Mann913.710.7220


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Re: [WISPA] Ubnt RocketM2 stock

[Jason Bailey]

http://www.ubnt.com/stock

--- On Thu, 2/9/12, Scott Piehn  wrote:

From: Scott Piehn 
Subject: [WISPA] Ubnt RocketM2 stock
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 9:21 AM



 
 



Does anyone have any in stock they would be willing 
to part with.  Looking to purchase 15
 
 

Scott 
Piehn
JCWIFI Division Manager
Computer Dynamics
451 W. South 
St
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[WISPA] Las Vegas WISPs

[Jason Hensley]

Anyone operating in or near Vegas mind to hit me offlist please?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network

[Jason Bailey]

If you are bridging radios,whats to stop a client from plugging a router in 
backwards,or any other ip device? Route at the cpe,192.x or 10.x either way you 
should be good. 

--- On Fri, 11/11/11, rwall...@tigernet.us  wrote:


From: rwall...@tigernet.us 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network
To: "WISPA General List" , "Scottie Arnett" 

Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 6:31 PM




 Yes, I am bridging the radios, and using static addr's for each customer.
 

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network
From: "Scottie Arnett" 
Date: Fri, November 11, 2011 5:54 pm
To: "WISPA General List" 

 
So are you bridging the radios? It still sounds like a networking problem 
instead of the radio. If you are not bridging and using DHCP on the radio, try 
it in bridge mode and see if that changes anything.
 
Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com

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To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network


Thanks Scottie,
 
Actually what is happening is as follows, all users having this problem are 
using MS Vista or MS7.   We use Static IP's, 192.168.0.nnn or .10.nnn, .15.nnn, 
.20.nnn - when the assigned IP, mask, gateway and DSN's are entered at the user 
loc. "local area Connection properties" dialog and saved a yellow triangle w/ a 
! appears over the Local Area Connection Icon, lower right, in the "Quick 
Launch toolbar".  When the mouse pointer is rested over the icon the message 
"Unidentified Network, No Network Access" appears.
 
It seems "Internet Explorer" reads the addressing data as a security risk and 
will not allow access.  Notwithstanding, microsoft's long and arduous efforts 
to provide us with secure communications, I feel they have overstepped my 
customers and my own needs for Microsoft Security where internet access is 
concerned.
 
My question is How Do I over come their enthusiasm with security where our 
internet access is concerned.
 
Ron Wallace
Tigernet Internet
trying to claw our way past Microsoft onto the Inet
 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network
From: "Scottie Arnett" 
Date: Thu, November 10, 2011 8:52 am
To: "WISPA General List" 

 




Are you doing DHCP with the client radios? If so, I remember some having 
problems if they used the 169.254.x.x private IP structure. Changing to another 
private structure solved the problem.
 
Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com

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To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:07 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Problem with Access to Canopy network


To All,
 
I have a problem with about 15 users not able to access the net.  Their PC's 
network icon, lower right on quick launch toolbar - MS, has a yellow triangle 
w/!.  indicating that their ethernet interface has no access.  Each user has 
MS7.  
 
This is specific to one tower location and three of the four sectors, 2 Canopy 
900's w/180* sectors, 2 Canopy 2.4's w/ 180* sectors.  At first we thought it 
was specific to MS7 Users, that is still the case.  However, not all MS7 
users.  The setup of all CPE & AP devices is the same.
 
We have reset one 900 to factory default and reconfig'd that device with no 
affect on the ability to access the net.
 
Any suggestions, advice, questions or direction would be greatly appreciated.
 
Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc. (Tigernet Internet)
rwall...@tigernet.us
Phone:517-547-8410
Cel:517-740-0941
 






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Re: [WISPA] Installation videos

[Jason Bailey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iR9z5mGmP0
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdmOzGCG4XI


--- On Thu, 11/3/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:


From: Andy Trimmell 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:30 AM







Does anyone remember the episodes of the provider that was doing youtube 
videos? It was pretty funny. Showed a couple episodes, cleaning out the van, 
installing an empty house….
 


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos
 
There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn’t educational more 
for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though.
 


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos
 
We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and tower 
maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education of our 
customers.  Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they would like to 
share for ideas?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl

[Jason Bailey]

Thanks guys!

--- On Wed, 8/24/11, Dylan Bouterse  wrote:


From: Dylan Bouterse 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:05 AM






They aren’t far from each other. :oP
 
We can get to within a dozen miles of Deland, but not quite Deland. L
 
Dylan
 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jason Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl
 





UPDATE! It's Deland!   Sorry,my memory is failing!!!
--- On Wed, 8/24/11, Jason Bailey  wrote:

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Subject: [WISPA] Service in Deltona,Fl
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:57 AM






Have an old friend that needs service. Hit me offlist. Thanks! Jason

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Re: [WISPA] Service in Deland,Fl

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UPDATE! It's Deland!   Sorry,my memory is failing!!!
--- On Wed, 8/24/11, Jason Bailey  wrote:


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Subject: [WISPA] Service in Deltona,Fl
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Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

[Jason Bailey]

Mark,I think everyone knows you to be a very smart man.What do you suggest as a 
specific plan of action in the current situation.I think this is the best route 
to convey your message,with the impact you desire.  Jason

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From: MDK 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 12:59 AM


A "plan of action"?  If I said "this is what WISPA should do" and laid it 
out in detail, all you'd do is say "who are you?  Why should we hacve to do 
what you say?"

Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty.  You see, when you 
have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should 
do is crystal clear.   Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it 
becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. 
And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes 
up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true 
principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult.

Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan.   Not even ideological. 
It's simple straightforward business principles.   Principle Numero Uno is 
"have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or 
difficult about that.

You seem to be interested in mere expediency.   That's what's gotten us to 
this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism, etc, 
to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much.   That's what's BEEN going 
on.  Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who would 
with us, say with many voices, but one message - "hands off, and be a 
steward of what's entrusted to you", I think the landscape would look 
different.  The word "steward" is loaded.  It means one entrusted to manage 
things for the benefit OF THE OWNER, that's us.    The FCC and Congress are 
managing for the benefit of the federal treasury and the donations to 
campaigns - which is the polar opposite of managed for the good of the 
people.

In the previous post, I wrote an analogy, one where the city effectively 
puts every service and business up for licensure at auction.  It takes no 
imagination at all to see that the city coffers and the winning bidder are 
the beneficiaries and the people are the losers.   Spectrum is a public or 
national resource held in trust by the federal government.   Auctions to the 
highest bidder do not benefit anyone but the monopoly holder and the 
treasury, by creating monopolies or very limited competition.   Again, we as 
consumers and businessmen are the losers.  Imagine if there were enough 
spectrum delegated so that if us WISP's wanted to be mobile broadband 
providers we could, as well as cellular, or even video / audio broadcasters. 
Instead, such services have been delegated a minute slice of available 
spectrum, keeping up the price of the auctions - and the number of 
competitors down.

Why?   It is in the interest of politicians to separate us from our money. 
But their REAL job is to defend us keeping it.  There are NOW myriad 
political allies to spread this message, to change the discussion from "whom 
to screw out of lots of money" to "what is the best policy for the people 
and keep competition alive?"   And, that's the message that is NOT being 
advocated by WISPA, and it should be.

You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and 
the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or 
advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle.   They should be TACTICS 
to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its 
soundness and validity.

And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were 
advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation.  Not 
particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy.   The 
current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any 
way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the 
country.  STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality.



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From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

> Errr...  and your point is ?
>
> Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say
> I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of
> action from you 
>
> My friend you and I can agree or dis-agree on concepts all day long...
> but the point still remains ... I for 

Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters

[Jason Hensley]

We were using Deliberant AP Duos.  Worked it out with our city that they could 
bring power to a box, spliced into a cut-off computer power cord that plugged 
right into our POE device.  Worked really well.   I think they would charge us 
$50 one time for the setup and then $50/yr for pole rental.

 

Have used DigitalPath equipment as well.  They have a nice setup, but 
performance wasn’t what we wanted and it is VERY proprietary and expensive on a 
monthly basis. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters

 

You can order them online. They are about 50 in qty.





I'm looking for a source for just the adapter so if you stumble across one let 
me know.

 

 

 



Jerry Richardson

Sent Mobile


On May 3, 2011, at 4:42 PM, RickG  wrote:

Tropos had a unit as well.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:


Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a 
streetlight to get power.

-- Original Message --
From: Justin Wilson 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400

>   Used some of these in a few deployments
>
>   
> http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l
>ighting-poles-6618
>
>   Made in Illinois.
>--
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>Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
>
>On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, "Cameron Kilton"  wrote:
>
>>Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by
>>power/phone etc with success?
>>
>>I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power
>>bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area
>>coverage
>>--
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Cam Kilton
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch recommendation

[Jason Hensley]

The one I'm looking at has all 24 ports 10/100/1000.

Appreciate this one too though - for the price
difference we may stick with 10/100 for now





--- Original Message ---
>From: Travis Johnson[mailto:t...@ida.net]
Sent: 4/25/2011 10:39:20 AM
To  : wireless@wispa.org
Cc  : 
Subject : RE: Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch
recommendation

 Sorry guess the one I got was a little different:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122177 

Not sure what's different about this one vs. yours...
other than double 
the price. :)

Travis
Microserv

On 4/25/2011 9:24 AM, ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote:
> We like that one, and I've always had good luck with
> Netgear, but also open to other suggestions.  Where
> did you get it for $350?  Cheapest I can find is in
> the $600 range...
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> > From: Travis Johnson[ mailto:t...@ida.net ]
> Sent: 4/25/2011 10:19:42 AM
> To  : wireless@wispa.org
> Cc  :
> Subject : RE: Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch
> recommendation
>
>   Why not the Netgear switch you listed? We just
> installed one and it
> seems to work great, especially for $350 for 24 ports
> that are PoE, with
> GigE uplinks.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> On 4/25/2011 9:11 AM, ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote:
>> I know this is slightly OT, but anyone have a
>> recommendation for a 24-port POE switch - similar to
>> the NETGEAR GS724TP-100NAS, or possibly two 8-port
>> switches.  Prefer something managed but not 100%
>> necessary.  Will be used to run POE powered VoIP
>> phones primarily.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Usage Caps Examples?

[Jason Novinger]

They WISP that I work with actually implements no bandiwdth caps and
uses it as a marketing strategy against the local cable company. The
cable company uses the model of guaranteeing speeds, but charging $x
for y GB over some arbitrary cap. They also provide a package geared
for video that has no bandwidth caps, but also does not guarantee any
speed.

Also, given AT&T's, the other local competitor, decision to implement
caps, this WISP is the _only_ local provider that does have any sort
of caps.

Holler off-list if you would like more specifics.

Jason

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Dan  wrote:
> We operate a small WISP plant that is becoming outmoded and is scheduled
> to be replaced.  Previously we have had a tiered pricing scheme but the
> video explosion has had a severe impact on our existing plant.  We are
> looking at better future-proofing our next deployment with the right
> model, which we believe to be either the billed-for-heavy-usage model or
> block pricing.
>
> Without getting into discussion about the evils of bandwidth caps too
> much, are there any examples of how WISP's are managing this?  Can
> anyone provide examples of end-user agreement language pertaining to
> this, the simpler the better?
>
> Also, what software or management platform are people using to monitor
> and automate billing of overages, etc?
>
> Feel free to reply to me off-list if needed.
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Re: [WISPA] Cat5E

[Jason Bailey]

Blair,for your viewing pleasure.
 

http://www.americantechsupply.com/outdoorcat5ewithmessenger.htm

--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Blair Davis  wrote:


From: Blair Davis 
Subject: [WISPA] Cat5E
To: memb...@wispa.org, "WISPA General List" 
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 5:05 PM


Looking for an aerial, shielded, Cat5E with steel messenger wire 
suitable for a 250ft span.

Anybody got or seen such a thing?  Price and availability?





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Re: [WISPA] Colo DNS

[Jason Hensley]

Thanks all.  Reliability is a MUST.  Have talked to Rackspace - so far they
seem to have the best deal.  Very reasonable for a Windows based Virtual
server

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colo DNS

 

On 5 April 2011 17:00, Jason Hensley  wrote:

I know this is a bit OT, but.

 

I'm looking for options for DNS redundancy.  In a nutshell, we have two
datacenters in two different cities.  We need to have some redundancy for
our publicly accessible servers.  We do NOT want to do round-robin DNS,  and
auto-failover options are either not available or too costly at this time -
we will make manual DNS changes as needed if our primary datacenter goes
down.  I'm looking for some place that I can offers either a virtual server,
or that will do DNS hosting that is located in a highly redundant facility.
Prefer something on clustered servers in a colo center, NOT in the Dallas
metroplex.   We want something totally independent of our two current data
centers.  

 

Any recommendations?  Thanks!


We use VPS.net for offsite servers. Can't say super good things about their
reliability, but the flexibility is nice, and they seem to be getting their
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[WISPA] Colo DNS

[Jason Hensley]

I know this is a bit OT, but.

 

I'm looking for options for DNS redundancy.  In a nutshell, we have two
datacenters in two different cities.  We need to have some redundancy for
our publicly accessible servers.  We do NOT want to do round-robin DNS,  and
auto-failover options are either not available or too costly at this time -
we will make manual DNS changes as needed if our primary datacenter goes
down.  I'm looking for some place that I can offers either a virtual server,
or that will do DNS hosting that is located in a highly redundant facility.
Prefer something on clustered servers in a colo center, NOT in the Dallas
metroplex.   We want something totally independent of our two current data
centers.  

 

Any recommendations?  Thanks!

 




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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

[Jason Bailey]

Josh, I agree. I want to be able to solve my mess!Where is the 
solutionubnt??

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, can...@believewireless.net  
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From: can...@believewireless.net 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:28 PM


You could take a regular PoE switch and use Ubiquiti's Instant 802.3af 
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[WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

[Jason Bailey]

Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting 
kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason


  


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[WISPA] Job Posting

[Jason Scobbie]

Quick note about a job posting on the wispa.org classifieds 
(http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2298&id=236).  Looking for a couple staff for 
WISP installs and support in Afghanistan (on US / ISAF bases) and in Western 
Africa (Liberia/Sierra Leone).  More info on the posting URL above.

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS?

[Jason Bailey]

you can select internal,external, or internal and external for mimo.

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Robert West  wrote:


From: Robert West 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS?
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 4:17 PM






The 900L lists “External SMA Connector” but being a MIMO, I guessed it would 
have 2.  If just one, does the firmware allow you to choose 1 chain for the 
external for tx or rx?  Or both…….?  Just one?  Sounds like an exploratory 
mission.
 
 
 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:14 PM
To: j284...@yahoo.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS?
 
Locos have connectors?

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Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

[Jason Bailey]

seems wierd that we have moved so far in such a short time...What will come in 
the next ten years?iptv for all homes...ouch

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Greg Ihnen  wrote:


From: Greg Ihnen 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:40 PM


I remember using one only about 10 years ago.





On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:





Anyone remember the "webramp"?dial-up router?

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed  wrote:


From: Scott Reed 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM


Youngster.  I don't know that I have it, but my first "high-speed" modem 
was 9600.  What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class.

On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up.
>
> On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>> I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =)
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnish   wrote:
>>> Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly
>>> after we started a dialup business in 1995.  His payment for the next couple
>>> years was hardware.  Dang, he must be nearly 30 now.  I can promise you he
>>> was successful!
>>>
>>> I went into the office one day and my partner said "We've been hacked".  I
>>> looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with "hacked" meant.  He said I'm
>>> going to catch him next time.  The next day he said "I caught him, you will
>>> never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow."
>>>
>>> Ah the good ole days!  56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US
>>> Robotics modems. :)
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Scott Lambert
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote:
>>>>> When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry
>>>>> lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we
>>>> get
>>>>> a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all,
>>>>> shocked, angry, understanding, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little
>>>>> wrist-slap from dad...
>>>>>
>>>>> (names have been changed to protect the guilty)...
>>>>>
>>>>> ***
>>>>> Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just
>>>> informed
>>>>> me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding
>>>> the
>>>>> downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was
>>>>> labeled "Takers". I did download the film "Takers" from a bit torrent
>>>>> website and have since then deleted the film and any programs
>>>> affiliated
>>>>> with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again.
>>>> I
>>>>> do apologize for the inconvenience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Taylor Wisdom
>>>>> ***
>>>> Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13
>>>> year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's.  The parents had
>>>> no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the
>>>> kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends
>>>> from another state said he was going to use a password he found for
>>>> one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad
>>>> dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid.  He ended up talking
>>>> to me.  I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands.  The
>>>> shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log
>>>> file we could tail -f.  He gave me the location and name of the
>>>> other kid. We calle

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

[Jason Bailey]

Anyone remember the "webramp"?dial-up router?

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed  wrote:


From: Scott Reed 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM


Youngster.  I don't know that I have it, but my first "high-speed" modem 
was 9600.  What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class.

On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up.
>
> On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
>> I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =)
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnish   wrote:
>>> Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly
>>> after we started a dialup business in 1995.  His payment for the next couple
>>> years was hardware.  Dang, he must be nearly 30 now.  I can promise you he
>>> was successful!
>>>
>>> I went into the office one day and my partner said "We've been hacked".  I
>>> looked at him dumbfounded, not knowing with "hacked" meant.  He said I'm
>>> going to catch him next time.  The next day he said "I caught him, you will
>>> never believe who it is, He is 14 years old and he starts work tomorrow."
>>>
>>> Ah the good ole days!  56K Frame Relay backbone and (16) 19,200 baud US
>>> Robotics modems. :)
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scott Lambert
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote:
> When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry
> lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we
 get
> a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all,
> shocked, angry, understanding, etc.
>
> This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little
> wrist-slap from dad...
>
> (names have been changed to protect the guilty)...
>
> ***
> Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just
 informed
> me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding
 the
> downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was
> labeled "Takers". I did download the film "Takers" from a bit torrent
> website and have since then deleted the film and any programs
 affiliated
> with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again.
 I
> do apologize for the inconvenience.
>
> Sincerely,
> Taylor Wisdom
> ***
 Sounds like most of the conversations we used to have with the 13
 year old script-kiddy-wannabes in the late 90's.  The parents had
 no clue what the kids were up to, but got very serious with the
 kids when we called them at 2am to report their mis-behaviour.

 One kid's father scared hime enough that when one of his IRC friends
 from another state said he was going to use a password he found for
 one of our customer's on our shell server, the kid told Dad and Dad
 dialed the phone and handed it back to the kid.  He ended up talking
 to me.  I watched the other kid log in and run a few commands.  The
 shells were all patched to log every command run to a central log
 file we could tail -f.  He gave me the location and name of the
 other kid. We called that kids's phone number:

 Us: "Get off my server."

 Kid: "I don't know what you're talking about dude."

 Us: "You are logged in as user blah from IP address blither.  The
        last command you ran was blah blah blah."

 Kid: "I'm off."

 The change from cocky to "oh sh**" was fun for us.

 Us: "Go get your Dad."

 I think that one ended up in Juvie.  It wasn't his first offence
 and his dad had promised to send him up the river the next time he
 did any hacking.  We were the next time he got caught.  Dad said
 he had been caught messing with NASA before.

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Re: [WISPA] What is this?

[Jason Hensley]

These are very nice if you can get them to work.  I had one but had a LOT of
issues with it.  Didn't spend a lot of time on it, and wish I had it back
now, but yeah, it would be sweet...



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess @ LTI
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is this?

A 16 Port KVM with IP access :)  You shuld be able to hook 16 servers
up, and use a web page, or other IP connection to connect to it :) 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: December 16, 2010 12:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] What is this?

DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS

I just found one of these literally laying here.  Can anyone tell a 
technology impaired person what it is?   Is it still something of value?


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Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

[Jason Hensley]

I would second the Mikrotik option.  Very easy and very customizable. 


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:59 AM
To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?

Mikrotik Hotspot offers everything you are looking for.  Rotates 
advertisements, has walled-garden, etc.

On 12/6/2010 8:23 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is
> not then, please apologize.
>
> I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet
> service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this
> free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an
> advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the
> past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force
> this for all the pages.
>
> I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove
> the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service.
>
> I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip
> addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even have
> pop ups from time to time whichever is easier.
>
> Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server.
>
> Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software

[Jason Hensley]

www.easeus.com - data recovery wizard - can't beat it for the price.  Will
recover even after multiple reformats.  

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software

 

Marlon,

 

It depends on what you mean by "reload windows". You might need a file
recovery program such as Data Recovery Wizard, etc. Or it may be as simple
as rolling it back to an earlier restore date. For transferring files, I use
an invaluable tool: http://thetornado.com -  so easy a chimp can do it!

 

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:

Hi All,

I have a customer that decided to reload windows.  They now have no family
pictures left.  ug  I've told them to leave the computer off till I can
figure out how to get the files back.

My plan is to get a USB hard drive adapter and use that to pull off any pics
I can find.

Anyone know of a good program that'll dig through the drive and look for
jpgs and such?

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

[Jason Hensley]

Thought I would just chime back in a little bit on this subject:

 

No experience with Powercode, but with Platypus we can do RADIUS (PPPoE)
authentication and control the profiles from within Platypus with account
types, assign the appropriate rate limiting, static IP addresses, etc etc -
everything controlled within Platypus.  Took a little tweaking to get this
to work with VOP RADIUS and Mikrotik, but we made it happen (had more to do
with Mikrotik and VOP than it did Platypus though).  Probably going to move
to FreeRadius sometime soon as VOPRadius is no longer a supported product.
We're integrated with ModusMail as well, so all email management is within
Platypus.  We have been using Wombat for quite some time and love it.
Fantastic that it's now going to be an integrated part of Platypus.  Had a
little learning curve at first, but the last revision of it made it WAY more
user friendly.  Using IPPay now for CC billing - integrated into Platypus.
We use Tucows / Platypus for paper statements - click three buttons and our
printing is sent off for us at VERY reasonable rates.  

 

Monitoring is still not there within Plat though, but I have a feeling it's
just a matter of time.  We've also had difficulty getting Plat to do
everything we want with our web hosting customers from within Plat itself,
but it's not that big of a deal to do the things we need to do manually for
our size web hosting operation.  If we had hundreds of customers we'd
integrate with a control panel that works with Platypus as well.

 

Online customer pages, online staff use pages, online knowledgebase, and
more - all integrated with Platypus.  

 

Hope all this info helps out a little bit. 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

 

LOL that reminds me of Beavis & Butthead, where all things in the world are
lumped into two categories: "This RULES" and "THIS SUCKS".

Tony, your network may be much bigger than mine so billing problems show up
more frequently, but, IMHO, billing is alright, not great, not perfect, just
good.  It's not an accounting package, and our bookkeeper seems to get what
she needs out of it to do the books every month.

About half of my customers pay with a check, and we put it in through
Powercode, so I think your comment about "forget it in powercode" is a
little extreme.

On 12/2/2010 1:00 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: 

Powercode may be great with the BMU, but as for a billing system is really
sucks!

 

Forget about basic accounting reports and simply things like a check
deposit.  Yes, customers still pay with a check.   Forget about it in
powercode!   

> I agree.  Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you

> intend to integrate with the BMU (bandwidth) management.  That's

> where the real power is, though we're having problems still, with

> about 5 percent of our customers (those who have remote subnets,

> like a /30 or /29 or /24).  Also some little things.

> 

> Don't get me wrong, the product is usable and valuable.  It's just

> that with what they want to charge for it these days, I expect for

> EVERYTHING to work, in MY environment, and for there to be

> excellent support.  We're talking over $1200/mo for the number of

> subs that I have.  For that cost, I should have .15 of a programmer

> dedicated to fixing my problems, all day, every day.

> 

> On 12/2/2010 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> I believe that a major turn will be the Maxx.  I don't

>> understand how so much could be done via shell to begin with

>> (Imagestream).

>> 

>> 

>> The bmu is what makes the product work for your business.  If you 

>> just do tickets, bills and such you're wasting your money.

>> 

>> 

>> I care most about getting it done.  Phone, email, morse code I

>> don't care.

>> On Dec 2, 2010 3:12 PM, "Mark Nash"  
 wrote:

>> Dude, talk with Josh more before you decide that you don't go with

>> them. There's GOT to be something he's doing that I'm not. I've

>> got

>> alot invested in PowerCode, and I wish it would "turn the corner"

>> for me but it hasn't.

>> 

>> On 12/2/2010 12:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote:

>>> That is hilarious. I just tried it and you weren't

>> joking. I was going to inquire about pricing but guess I won't.

>> 

>>> Sent from my iPhone4

>>> 

>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Mark Nash 


>>> 

>> wrote:

>> 

 Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I

>> just tried calling

 their sales line. 920-351-1010.

 

 Go ahead, call it. I dare you.

 

 If I had a phone system like theirs I would have

>> been out of business

 long ago...

 

 Their MAIN greeting sounds like it was recorded A)

>> on a speakerphone and

 B) in a room with about 50 servers running with 10

>> fans each. Then you

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

[Jason Hensley]

Platypus 7 will be out in January and supposedly is going to include some of
the things that have been missing.  I know that Wombat (the help desk
system) will now be built into it as opposed to being an add-on component.
They are also touting improved services and features specifically for
WISP's.  Will have to wait until Jan to see I guess.  

I've personally been very pleased with Platypus for the past 6 years.  I've
been anxious for a new full-version since Tucows bought them to see what it
will be like, and am really excited about version 7 coming out.  I just hope
I'm not let down too much...





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

To do everything at once, your options are Powercode and Azotel.

Bits and pieces will require an expert on site (Freeside, Platypus, etc).

Platypus is not a back end system so it doesn't compare to Powercode.
Platypus only bills, but has some plugins to work with some things
here and there.

I am happy with Powercode.  It does all the things you listed.  Has
really good tools for Ubiquiti and Canopy (auto provisioning, BAM,
etc).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Shane MacDonald 
wrote:
> Has any of you ever tired Powercode as a backend systems?
> Does anyone have experience with it compared to Platypus?
>
> We have a number of customers ranging between the 300 to 700 clients.
> I am trying to find a solution I maybe able to recommend them.
> Billing is an important piece but it also needs to have a ticketing
> system, be able to monitor clients, record history, etc.
> The two above I have received the most endorsements for and just
> wonder which maybe better.
>
> Shane
> KP Performance
>
>
> On 24-Aug-10, at 10:18 AM, Jon Auer wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately that's a fact of life of enterprise software.
>> Any sufficiently powerfully piece of software will require a lot of
>> customization to do exactly what you want.
>> Witness all the Oracle/PeopleSoft/SAP consultants. :-/
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dennis Burgess > > wrote:
>>> This is where a single system still don't do everything needed.
>>> Kinda
>>> stinks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:51 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Cc: WISPA General List
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck, would you be willing to share or sell your code?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>
>>> Inventory stuff?  Gerard has built some custom PHP scripts to do
>>> some neat
>>> things...and I have done some as well.  Problem is, we keep saying
>>> "ooh it'd
>>> be neat to do this..." and then we go and do it. So our Platypus
>>> installation isn't the norm at all.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>
>>> Shelby Broadband
>>> 502-722-9292
>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>
>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Josh Luthman
>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck - did you ever get an automated system for your network
>>> equipment?  I thought you were working on something to do all that.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Chuck Hogg 
>>> wrote:
 We use Platypus as well.  The cost is well worth it, and is
 cheaper than
 most.  $100/mth for up to 1,000 customers,  $200/mth for 5000
 customers.
  It
 integrates with IPPay flawlessly.  It has the capability to do a
 lot of
 customizing.  $2000 for a full 2 day training course, in your
 office if
 you
 can't figure it out.


 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Gino Villarini
  wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> 
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of David Sovereen
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:07 PM
>
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>
>
>
> Have you looked at Platypus?  Costs less, does more, scales big,
> and is a
> proven solution (I've been using for 13 year

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

[Jason Hensley]

I'm curious if this ever got fixed and what the cause was?



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Look for an internal wireless system that's drowning out the AP.

Think x10 camera or other similar system.

Do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can look with?
marlon

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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:26 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Weird one of the month


> Help.
> I sent a Trendnet 432 SOHO wireless router with the installer to a
> customer.  He hooked it up, couldn't connect.  Does not show in list of
> available APs on his laptop or the customer's laptop.  Must be DOA.
> Send another one. Customer not home so installer left it.  Fine,
> customer can hook it up.  Customer calls, can't make it work.  I stop in
> and it doesn't show up on my laptop or her laptop.  Two of them DOA
> seems unlikely, but ...
> I setup another one.  Take it to customer house. Can't see it.  Moved it
> to another room.  Still doesn't show up.  Get my laptop.  Same thing.
> Now I am sure it is something else because I don't have 3 DOA units.
> Haven't had that many in 4 years or whatever it is of using these.
> I just setup the second one on the test bench.  It is working fine.
> Connected with my laptop and passes traffic just like it should.
> What do I need to look for at the customer house that would make 3
> routers not show up on multiple computers when doing a scan for wireless
> networks?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

[Jason Hensley]

Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too.  I had to break
it out better than what I had.  My issues were similar to what you're seeing
- just really unpredictable behavior from some sites.  Was going over the
max possible NAT connections.  I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the
time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details.  

With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL
connections.  




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network.

Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24.
Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need
squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running
videocache which needs squid.

I'll let you know how things go from here.


On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote:
> > profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
> > 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
> 
> Just curious, do you NAT everyone?
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Equipment list?

[Jason Hensley]

Hmm, I'm in need of an ODH24-9 or something similar. Anyone have one they
want to get rid of?  Hit me offlist if you've got one please. 

 

 

 

From: RafmanR [mailto:shortwa...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:53 AM
To: ja...@jaggartech.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equipment list?

 

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[WISPA] Equipment list?

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I don't see one at WISPA.  Is there an active equipment (buying / selling)
list anywhere?




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations

[Jason Hensley]

I would personally run far away from Dell.  They used to be rebranded
Lexmarks, but were proprietary in their ink config.  Their cartridges and
toner seem to be more expensive than some of the others and like someone
else mentioned, hard to come by without ordering direct from Dell.  

We have had great luck over the years with HP, but I agree that some of the
later stuff has been a little shaky.  I'll add one more plus for Epson -
they seem to really be moving to the head of the pack with inkjet and
officejet level printers.  IMHO HP is still then best in the laser printers
though. 




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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations

I was considering their Office Jet Laser series, but was hesitant to 
spend even more money on an HP when they've continually failed me.

One of my clients has dozens of the Dell laser printers and MFPs.  They 
seem to do well for them.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 11/23/2010 8:32 AM, Robert West wrote:
> I see the same issues with the OfficeJets but only with the Inkjet models.
> The laser models work flawlessly for me but they are only black and white,
> at least the ones I have.  I only use the InkJet Hp for printing of maps
and
> it's usually a fight even with a static IP set in the thing.
>
> As far as Dell, they used to be made by Lexmark but I've seen some that
were
> HP.  I'd actually steer clear of Dell and just go with whoever makes the
> Dell model you're looking at due to their hard to find proprietary ink.
>
> I HAVE had some luck with the Kodak printers now that they seem to have
> their firmware figured out.  The ink is way cheap as a bonus.  Not a heavy
> duty machine but they seem to do the job.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations
>
> I've used HP OfficeJets for most of the previous decade.  I've used HP
> printers period for...  20 years?
>
> However, the OfficeJets continue to have paper handling and other
> issues.  They are used far less than their service duty allows.  I also
> have a problem with the printer disappearing on some computers.
>
> I was recommended to Dell all in one printers, but their user interface
> for the scanning, faxing, etc. features is horrible.
>
> I need something that works, does copy, fax, scan, print, and is easy
> enough for non-techies to use.  Recommendations?
>
>
>




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Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

[Jason Hensley]

Check for wireless cameras in their house.  We've seen those (especially
those cheap X10 type cameras) absolutely kill all 2.4 anywhere near them. 



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Help.
I sent a Trendnet 432 SOHO wireless router with the installer to a 
customer.  He hooked it up, couldn't connect.  Does not show in list of 
available APs on his laptop or the customer's laptop.  Must be DOA. 
Send another one. Customer not home so installer left it.  Fine, 
customer can hook it up.  Customer calls, can't make it work.  I stop in 
and it doesn't show up on my laptop or her laptop.  Two of them DOA 
seems unlikely, but ...
I setup another one.  Take it to customer house. Can't see it.  Moved it 
to another room.  Still doesn't show up.  Get my laptop.  Same thing. 
Now I am sure it is something else because I don't have 3 DOA units. 
Haven't had that many in 4 years or whatever it is of using these.
I just setup the second one on the test bench.  It is working fine. 
Connected with my laptop and passes traffic just like it should.
What do I need to look for at the customer house that would make 3 
routers not show up on multiple computers when doing a scan for wireless 
networks?

-- 
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Owner
NewWays Networking, LLC
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
Mikrotik Advanced Certified
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee

[Jason Hensley]

Wow, so I get free radios??  Hey, UBNT, I want 1500 XR3's!!!  

 

Sorry, I couldn't resist..  J

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of rwf
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:54 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee

 

After the 200.00, there is no fee for the actual radios.

Not a bad deal, actually

Ralph

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee

 

$200

Phil

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

What is the #.65 license fee?

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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

[Jason Hensley]

Concur on this as well.  Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have
never had it lock up on those.  It's my understanding though, and I may be
wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version
5, but again, I may be wrong on this.  There was a thread on this a week or
two ago. 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 

Same here.  I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am.



 
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: 

Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry
 wrote:

Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network
and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however
have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the
back-end database gets to 2GB. 

  

  _  

   

From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] 
Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 


To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

  

Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
versions ago.  

  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude 

  

I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley  wrote:


One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. 





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Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros & cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] New Job Posting in WISPA Classifieds

[Jason Bailey]

Wow,sounds like what I do for free.;)

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Rick Harnish  wrote:


From: Rick Harnish 
Subject: [WISPA] New Job Posting in WISPA Classifieds
To: memb...@wispa.org, wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 1:42 PM








Field Technician
 
Contact Information
Contact Todd Bergstrom
Phone: 303-376-3760 
Location : Frederick, Colorado, USA 
Visit Website
More Information
Responsibilities:

The field technician is responsible for all wireless networking integration 
services 3-dB Networks offers. Duties will include but not be limited to 
wireless site surveys, installation of wireless networking devices and 
maintenance of networks. 

Qualifications:

• A minimum of three years of related work experience is required

• Good working knowledge of switched/routed networks

• Knowledge of broadband wireless systems, including licensed microwave, WiFi, 
WiMAX, and Motorola Canopy

• Ability to safely work on rooftop utilizing ladders

• Willingness to work from telecommunications towers at heights up to 200’

• Safe driving record and valid driver’s license

• Willingness to work in a wide range of weather conditions
 
Respectively,
 
Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
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Skype: rick.harnish.
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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

[Jason Hensley]

Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of
versions ago.  

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

 

I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.





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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to
hear pros & cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

Mark






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Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

[Jason Hensley]

One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying
to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare.  We scrapped that pretty
quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system.  




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude

I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free 
products to the other.

I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to 
hear pros & cons of either.

What did you switch from/to, and why?

Thanks !

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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

[Jason Hensley]

I have considered doing this but have not yet implemented. 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

 

Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore,
we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term
agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms.
This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.

Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.






-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Don Grossman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

> Yes...everything electronically.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp  wrote:
> All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
> lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
> don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
> similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
> have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
> playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
> the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
> customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
> cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
> prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
> winding down.
>
> We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
> the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
> Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
> paper.
>
> We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
> setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
> We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
> through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
> customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
> customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
> contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
> we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
> reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
> photocopy of the one they signed.
>
>





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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

[Jason Hensley]

Well, personally we just did away with contracts.  They became cumbersome
and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town
without paying anyway.  We tout this as a positive to our customers - that
even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into
a long-term agreement.  Works GREAT for our college customers.  

Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides.  It lays out just
the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't
return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then
references our TOS for more info.  Our installer fills it out with their
info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet,
gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done.  





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Don Grossman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip?  Our
collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the
terms.

Don

On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

> Yes...everything electronically.
> 
> Cameron
> 
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp  wrote:
> All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to
> lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I
> don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the
> similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to
> have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around
> playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when
> the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The
> customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the
> cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or
> prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is
> winding down.
> 
> We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but
> the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands.
> Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving
> paper.
> 
> We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher
> setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when.
> We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow
> through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the
> customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for
> customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a
> contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem
> we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for
> reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a
> photocopy of the one they signed.
> 
> 





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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter

[Jason Hensley]

To answer your question from  my end, I've had great luck with Sonicwalls
and their content filtering.  For a very large enterprise it can tend to get
a bit costly, but it works great.  I'm not a fan of their stuff for a
head-end router though, but for content filtering it does pretty good -
especially if you need to integrate it with Active Directory. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter

 

Recommendations on content filtering software?  I'm aware of OpenDNS,
thanks..

 

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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter

[Jason Hensley]

Wow, this is a great looking piece of software.  Does it work as well as it
looks?  They're obviously not touting themselves for large organizations but
for a small office that doesn't want to fork out $1500 for a Sonicwall or
something similar this might be just want they need.  

Thanks for the info!
 



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:42 AM
To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter

ClearOS - CentOS based and very clean web interface.  if you want
updates to dansguardian rules you have to pay for a subscription.

On 11/07/2010 06:41 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
> untangle.com ?
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Scott Vander Dussen 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:49:58 -0800
>
>> Recommendations on content filtering software?  I'm aware of OpenDNS,
thanks..
>>
>> `S
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[WISPA] NS2 with 24v

[Jason Hensley]

Will an NS2 run on 24v or will it fry it?




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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

[Jason Hensley]

Our local radio station puts access to the cameras on their web site and
then sells advertising / sponsorship for them.




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam

Would love to put cammers, but haven't found a way to have them paid for or 
justify.
Has anyone found grants, or tv station that what would pay for the upfront 
cost?


Scott Piehn
- Original Message - 
From: "Forbes Mercy" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam


> I'm interested in putting one to two cameras at each tower then having
> them stream into a single DVR at our head-end.  How do we accomplish that?
>
> On 10/26/2010 8:01 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
>> Axis camera
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

[Jason Hensley]

If money is not an issue then an Axis camera is GREAT.  But, I've done a
cheap setup too with a $100 camera and windows media encoder streaming to
windows media server.  Works great until there is a blip in connectivity and
the encoder loses connection to the server.  Encoder has to be restarted.
I've put in a nightly reboot routine to counteract that. 



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Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Webcam

A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would
like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their
website. Any suggestions on hardware and configuration?

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Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

[Jason Hensley]

Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have
never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM
To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)

I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. 

I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an
order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or
so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600
and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending
an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just
an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried
calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple
messages and never got a return call. 

If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge
back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed
an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
 
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports

Suggested alternates :-

 
http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a-
CAT5.html


http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx
http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449

Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom


On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
> POE Injectors
>
> I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light
> would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus
>
> I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the
> shields) to each other or to power ground as well.
>
> I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights
> but everybody shows them out of stock.
>
> Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are
> going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue?  I’ve been 
hesitant to move to it since it’s still beta. 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM
To: wireless
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to 
store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph 
that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back 
months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network 
usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this 
functionality so isn’t really an option either. 

 

Many thanks, 

 

Paul. 

 

  _  

   

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation 

 

Yes I did.  I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite 
instead of file storage.  Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 
3.6 and see if you run into this issue.

Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades?  I found this was an issue when I 
tried to back up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry  
wrote: 

Josh, 

  

Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta 
versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and 
it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The 
question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work 
around? 

  

Paul. 

  

  _  

   

   

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation 

  

I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS.

I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude 
in terms of storage.  It simply stores it in files.

I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this 
number?  Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if 
the issue is seen there as well?  Some linux distro?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry  
wrote: 

Hi guys, 

  

I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we 
get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, 
SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? 

  

Many thanks, 

  

Paul. 

  

  _  

   

   

   

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] 
Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation 

  

I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. 



Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene.  I 
don't want to use my time on that.

Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen  wrote: 

Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? 

  

Greg 

  

On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

  

Every Tuesday for Windows.

How often for RouterOS?  I still have 2.9.x boxes out there.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith  wrote: 

  

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman  
wrote: 

This is what I was referring to.  I don't want to spend my nights updating 
Windows. 

  

Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what 
you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try 
to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users 
affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if 
something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming 
mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and 
one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. 

  

David Smith 

MVN.net 

  





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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

I do auto download on the updates, but I install them myself - normally late
at night.  Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a
critical server.  

 

Hardware firewall - or something dedicated to firewalling.  Windows firewall
sucks - not very configurable and gets in the way when you don't want it to,
and won't move out of the way when you do want it to. 

 

Avira is fantastic and we're migrating all of our commercial stuff to it
(paid version).  Have had more than one instance now of a suspicious file on
a customer's pc that we upload to www.virustotal.com and Avira was the only
one that picked up on it being a bad file.  

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Do you recommend turning on automatic updates?

 

Software or hardware firewall?

 

Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for
antivirus). It's the best I've used. 

 

Greg

On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:





I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all
critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc.  Key to Windows servers is
configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling,
don't overload, etc. 

 

Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB?

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and
such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel
they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time.

I really hate the storage issues, though.  Backups have to be done manually
- keep that in mind!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley 
wrote:

Oh, I remember now.  Dude from time to time would just stop responding for
no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again.
We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became
real inconvenient to reboot.  It got to the point that it was becoming a
daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP.  If I go
back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. 

 

We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding
- worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested
in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup.  That
has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then.  We
also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was
because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an
RB433.  At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we
had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box
and go on. 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6.  I check it with my Droid X
from time to time.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley 
wrote:

Wish I would remember.  I'll try to look / think back and see.  It may have
to do with the web interface, but maybe not.  Ug!  J 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

What features?  It's the exact same application.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember
what they were.   I don't think it was performance - had more to do with
features available or something like that.  I know I moved off of RouterOS
back to an XP machine.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Use RouterOS?

On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, "Paul Hendry" 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to
> monitor bandwidth on some devices and have

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all
critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc.  Key to Windows servers is
configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling,
don't overload, etc.  

 

Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB?

 

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and
such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel
they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time.

I really hate the storage issues, though.  Backups have to be done manually
- keep that in mind!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley 
wrote:

Oh, I remember now.  Dude from time to time would just stop responding for
no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again.
We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became
real inconvenient to reboot.  It got to the point that it was becoming a
daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP.  If I go
back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude.  

 

We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding
- worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested
in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup.  That
has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then.  We
also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was
because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an
RB433.  At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we
had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box
and go on.  

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6.  I check it with my Droid X
from time to time.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley 
wrote:

Wish I would remember.  I'll try to look / think back and see.  It may have
to do with the web interface, but maybe not.  Ug!  J  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

What features?  It's the exact same application.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember
what they were.   I don't think it was performance - had more to do with
features available or something like that.  I know I moved off of RouterOS
back to an XP machine. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Use RouterOS?

On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, "Paul Hendry" 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to
> monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems
> that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run.
> File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view.
> Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work
> arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Hendry
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

Oh, I remember now.  Dude from time to time would just stop responding for
no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again.
We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became
real inconvenient to reboot.  It got to the point that it was becoming a
daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP.  If I go
back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude.  

 

We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding
- worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested
in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup.  That
has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then.  We
also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was
because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an
RB433.  At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we
had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box
and go on.  

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6.  I check it with my Droid X
from time to time.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley 
wrote:

Wish I would remember.  I'll try to look / think back and see.  It may have
to do with the web interface, but maybe not.  Ug!  J  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

What features?  It's the exact same application.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember
what they were.   I don't think it was performance - had more to do with
features available or something like that.  I know I moved off of RouterOS
back to an XP machine. 

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Use RouterOS?

On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, "Paul Hendry" 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to
> monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems
> that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run.
> File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view.
> Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work
> arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Hendry
> 
> Technical Director
> 
> 
> 
> Skyline Networks & Consultancy Ltd
> 
> Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate,
> 
> Woodside,
> 
> Thornwood,
> 
> Epping,
> 
> Essex
> 
> CM16 6LJ
> 
> 
> 
> Tel: 0845 004 0404
> 
> Mob: 0783 492 1803
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

Wish I would remember.  I'll try to look / think back and see.  It may have
to do with the web interface, but maybe not.  Ug!  J  

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

What features?  It's the exact same application.

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley  wrote:

I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember
what they were.   I don't think it was performance - had more to do with
features available or something like that.  I know I moved off of RouterOS
back to an XP machine. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Use RouterOS?

On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, "Paul Hendry" 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to
> monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems
> that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run.
> File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view.
> Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work
> arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Hendry
> 
> Technical Director
> 
> 
> 
> Skyline Networks & Consultancy Ltd
> 
> Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate,
> 
> Woodside,
> 
> Thornwood,
> 
> Epping,
> 
> Essex
> 
> CM16 6LJ
> 
> 
> 
> Tel: 0845 004 0404
> 
> Mob: 0783 492 1803
> 
> Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
> 
> Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

[Jason Hensley]

I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember
what they were.   I don't think it was performance - had more to do with
features available or something like that.  I know I moved off of RouterOS
back to an XP machine. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation

 

Use RouterOS?

On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, "Paul Hendry" 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to
> monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems
> that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run.
> File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view.
> Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work
> arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Hendry
> 
> Technical Director
> 
> 
> 
> Skyline Networks & Consultancy Ltd
> 
> Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate,
> 
> Woodside,
> 
> Thornwood,
> 
> Epping,
> 
> Essex
> 
> CM16 6LJ
> 
> 
> 
> Tel: 0845 004 0404
> 
> Mob: 0783 492 1803
> 
> Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com
> 
> Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday

[Jason Bailey]

Fred,many of those tvws channels are untouchable,unless you run your tx at 
40mw.A full duplex system has the ap at full power on one channel,the s/u  tx 
ing on a low power only channel in full duplex.Many more channels are then 
available and you may now see the reason for this...BTW,those low power 
channels are considered mobile and wouldnt have all the restrictions.Do you see 
my point?Jason

--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Fred Goldstein  wrote:


From: Fred Goldstein 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:58 PM


At 10/14/2010 08:35 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:

In the days of two way radio,we had a great tx site,but low power 
handhelds(customer radios) couldnt be heard well by the reciever at that main 
tx site.We then installed remote reciever sites to be able to better hear the 
handhelds(customer radios)They uaually heard the main tx site fine.  Jason

That makes sense when power is highly asymmetrical, as with an HT.  However, 
power limits on TVWS are all low -- 4 W ERP max for a fixed unit -- so there's 
little reason to do that.  A wireless mic ("personal/portable") system just 
might, if it has to cover a fairly large area, but that's not what WISPs need.  
And wireless mics (non-fixed devices) aren't subject to the HAAT limit; their 
receivers can be anywhere too.  Channels up to 20 are only usable by Fixed 
devices.

The term "receive only" is not defined in the recent TVWS Order.  It was used 
in the old days for satellite receivers, back when you needed a license to 
legally pick up a satellite signal.  They dropped "TVRO" licensing after a lot 
of rural people had put in unauthorized dishes (remember those), prior to the 
start of DBS services.

ju> the only "snarky insults" are the ones that you contributed.

Oh, and Jack, I actually did read the whole new policy.  Why do you think I 
joined the great silence greeting a certain other poster's partisan comments 
earlier today?  I'm seriously asking about what you meant, and what position 
was expressed to the FCC.  Really.  You didn't answer me.  Unless you think 
"worth precisely zero" was an insult, though I meant it quite literally.

I work with an organization that is pulling a ton of middle-mile fiber which we 
hope will be attractive to WISPs, to serve currently "unserved" areas.  I've 
even done some strawman designs in RadioMobile to test the feasibility.  But 
those areas (hill towns) have houses, not to mention CAIs (on fiber) and thus 
obvious AP sites, higher than 75m HAAT.  So the height rules are a real problem 
in both directions.  I read your FCC posting and saw the term "receive only".  
It also talked about moving towers below the 75m limit, and didn't directly 
address subscribers.  But the Fixed rules apply to subscriber sites too.  A 
WISP could often beam uphill, rather than downhill, if it were only the towers, 
but Fixed APs will more often talk to Fixed subscribers than to 
personal/portable ones.  Especially when the available channels are below Ch. 
21. So it's a real technical/regulatory issue I'm raising.

Does anyone else here think I'm being insulting?  Have I made the question 
clear?  Or is Jack just being overly defensive?


--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Josh Luthman  wrote:



From: Josh Luthman 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday

To: "WISPA General List" 

Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:26 PM


Maybe explain what it means to WISPs?

On Oct 14, 2010 8:17 PM, "Jack Unger" < jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:

> Fred,

> 

> If you don't know how to use this then don't use it. Simple.

> 

> Thank-you for your opinion and have a good day.

> 

> jack

> 

> 

> On 10/14/2010 5:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

>> At 10/14/2010 06:35 PM, you wrote:

>>> Fred,

>>>

>>> Sites with TVWS receiving equipment instead of TVWS base stations

>>> that transmit.

>> Yes, which is worth precisely zero to a WISP, since we need two-way

>> transceivers. The only receive-only equipment is what goes with

>> wireless mics; the mics themselves are transmit only.

>>

>>> jack

>>>

>>>

>>> On 10/14/2010 3:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

>>>> At 10/14/2010 06:12 PM, you wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Steve Coran (respresenting WISPA), Comsearch, Motorola and Spectrum

>>>>> Bridge met with Julius Knapp and others from the FCC OET office

>>>>> yesterday in regard to certain limiting factors in the TVWS

>>>>> Memorandum Report& Order language. Below is the Ex parte Filing

>>>>> that was made today.

>>>> Rick, when you guys said "

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday

[Jason Bailey]

In the days of two way radio,we had a great tx site,but low power 
handhelds(customer radios) couldnt be heard well by the reciever at that main 
tx site.We then installed remote reciever sites to be able to better hear the 
handhelds(customer radios)They uaually heard the main tx site fine.  Jason

--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Josh Luthman  wrote:


From: Josh Luthman 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Ex Parte Filing from yesterday
To: "WISPA General List" 
Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:26 PM



Maybe explain what it means to WISPs?
On Oct 14, 2010 8:17 PM, "Jack Unger"  wrote:
> Fred,
> 
> If you don't know how to use this then don't use it. Simple.
> 
> Thank-you for your opinion and have a good day.
> 
> jack
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2010 5:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>> At 10/14/2010 06:35 PM, you wrote:
>>> Fred,
>>>
>>> Sites with TVWS receiving equipment instead of TVWS base stations
>>> that transmit.
>> Yes, which is worth precisely zero to a WISP, since we need two-way
>> transceivers. The only receive-only equipment is what goes with
>> wireless mics; the mics themselves are transmit only.
>>
>>> jack
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2010 3:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>>>> At 10/14/2010 06:12 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Coran (respresenting WISPA), Comsearch, Motorola and Spectrum
>>>>> Bridge met with Julius Knapp and others from the FCC OET office
>>>>> yesterday in regard to certain limiting factors in the TVWS
>>>>> Memorandum Report& Order language. Below is the Ex parte Filing
>>>>> that was made today.
>>>> Rick, when you guys said "to remove the HAAT restriction for
>>>> receive-only sites", did you really mean receive-only, or did you
>>>> mean the PtP subscriber (slave) station that talks to the "tower"?
>>>>
>>>> I am glad to see action this soon on the 76-meter issue, since it not
>>>> only impacts tower locations, but subscriber sites.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
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>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater

[Jason Hensley]

Or just get a Deliberant Duo and be done with it...  :-)



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Greg Ihnen  wrote:
> But I think in the open mesh thing the units are in the ad-hoc mode. I
> thought someone said there was some way for the unit to repeat an AP.

You can bridge the units together using WDS.  I'm *pretty sure* that
you can connect them back to back with cat5 to get basically a dual
radio setup and push full speed over one hop:

base unit <= wds backhaul => receiver wds <=> ubnt configured as access
point

If you go ad hoc, you'll lose 50% of your speed over a one hop link.
If you have a cheap linksys router, you can create a triple radio and
go full speed up to 4 or 5 hops.  I've done this with Engenius gear
(with 5ghz for the backhaul), I learned it from a guy who has done it
several hops deep with the Ubiquiti gear.


> Greg
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Chuck Profito wrote:
>
> You mean like open mesh with picos?
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater
>
> I think the OpenWRT image will do that, but the stock firmware will not.
>
> - Jerry
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:01 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater
>
> Yeah, not that either. I must have dreamt there was a way to use UBNT gear
> as a repeater/extender.
>
> Greg
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:23 PM, RickG wrote:
>
>
>
> Not looking good for
> this: http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24089&highlight=repeater
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Greg Ihnen  wrote:
> I remember (I think) reading on this forum about how to use a UBNT radio
as
> a repeater (not WDS) by leaving the SSID blank and choosing Station mode.
> Can anyone tell me how to do that? I'm near an open network (no
encryption)
> and I have permission to extend it. Can't do WDS, the existing AP doesn't
> support it.
>
> Thanks!
> Greg
>
>
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