[WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread wispa
...or not going on? Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Some "unlicensed" history....

2007-03-02 Thread wispa
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Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today

2007-03-01 Thread wispa
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[WISPA] Some "unlicensed" history....

2007-03-01 Thread wispa
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Re: Fw: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration

2007-03-01 Thread wispa
m: "Ellen Burton" <> > To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "477INFO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:49 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Final Form 477 Consideration > > Hi, Marlon, > > For Forbes

Re: [WISPA] Free advertizing

2007-03-01 Thread wispa
p://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/DuneCityPlug/ > > Just proves that if you work hard enough word of mouth advertizing works. > > -- > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wi

Re: [WISPA] Makes you feel a bit... errrr.... what's the word?

2007-03-01 Thread wispa
, I trust Congress... the feds in general... about... well... ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE IOTA. Government by nature is adversarial to the welfare of the individual. That's why we had (past tense) such an unusual nation, where a government was forced to get OUT of our business turned the people free and

[WISPA] Makes you feel a bit... errrr.... what's the word?

2007-02-28 Thread wispa
ongress or the Big Boys first, and wishes for favors a very distant 2nd. Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread wispa
We should be building our networks with the idea that there's a future beyond surfing. We can be competitive, especially if we team up in numbers. / ---- Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] For those in business just about a year...

2007-02-20 Thread wispa
the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simplyabout being"stickerconscious" or not??

2007-02-19 Thread wispa
putting together "pieces parts" radios for use > in the US without going through the formality of FCC certification > as a system SHOULD be illegal is irrelevant. It's relevant, as to why we should lobby for change, Steve. > ---

Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

2007-02-19 Thread wispa
"certified component" idea would put the onus on the various manufacturers to assure that ongoing QC would keep things compliant. Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8

Re: [WISPA] Getting the sticker.

2007-02-19 Thread wispa
re's the AP use, where EVERY combination has to be certified separately with each sector or omni, blah, blah. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http:/

RE: [WISPA] No, Patrick, it's not about the stickers...

2007-02-19 Thread wispa
small guys, and it needs to be changed. Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Time off from WISPA

2007-02-18 Thread wispa
emotional stress. > Guys I am taking a vacation from WISPA for a while. I am scheduled > to speak in D.C. before New America's caucus at the Senate Office > Building before Commerce Committee on this Thursday to lobby for > unlicensed access to TV channel spectrum. My Mother

RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simplyabout being"stickerconscious" or not??

2007-02-18 Thread wispa
be stifled by a rigid and corporate-centric regulatory straightjacket. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ---- Mark Koskenmak

[WISPA] No, Patrick, it's not about the stickers...

2007-02-18 Thread wispa
tead of attempting to bottle it up. Or is your loyalty purely to the company and not to US? > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- &

Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

2007-02-18 Thread wispa
ot of small businesses innovating with commodity components. Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wisp

Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ?????

2007-02-18 Thread wispa
ic listserve, and I hope we all remember it. Maybe we'll learn something for our "next" life. > > Regards, > > Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. > Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Industry, FCC and WISPA observations

2007-02-17 Thread wispa
y not these 2 ? > > JohnnyO > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:03 PM To: > WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Industry, FCC and WISPA observations > > On Sa

RE: [WISPA] Industry, FCC and WISPA observations

2007-02-17 Thread wispa
gt; Regards, > > JohnnyO > Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

2007-02-17 Thread wispa
thin 18 months. Man, anything but the status quo. > > -- > Butch Evans > Network Engineering and Security Consulting > 573-276-2879 > http://www.butchevans.com/ > My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > Mikrotik Certifi

Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

2007-02-17 Thread wispa
verpriced stuff selling overpriced services at a loss, screwing the investors. Which is being defended in practice by people who claim to be my "friends". Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

2007-02-16 Thread wispa
h the certification process for compliance. They are > much more concerned on the compliace of 5.4 gear because the > importance NOT TO INTERFERE with DOD applications. So using > uncertified 5.4 gear is on the Radar for enforcement, without > sympathy. They did however say its

Re: [WISPA] Re: Feb 22

2007-02-15 Thread wispa
What, exactly? > Frannie, > I have copied the WISPA list server on this email. Please reply to > me and let me know exactly what you would like for me to have these > contacts do who are in the districts listed below. I am sure you > want to see them express their nee

RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-13 Thread wispa
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:40:07 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, wispa wrote: > > >Uhmm, Butch... No, they're not "asking for a means". They're > >insisting that we build the tap into our network, at our expense, > >prior to a

RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:41 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote > On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, wispa wrote: > > >This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE > >PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry. > > WHAT? You are not correct. This is the LEA asking for a mea

Re: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
ty, free, and other informal networks who FOR SURE are not filing, nor even know about it. > > Superior Wireless > New Orleans,La. > www.superior1.com > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.

Re: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:44:20 -0800, George Rogato wrote > wispa wrote: > > > You actually think that the "big guys" will actually let that happen? > > Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into > a profit center. > > Anyways if you

RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
u Mark? Or would you be hollering foul then as well?? Mac, this is apples and oranges. This is the FCC declaring that EVERY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BE PRE-TAPPED at the expense of industry. ---- Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for th

Re: CALEA - HOW? RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
e to pay a license to those who created them. ---- Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
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Re: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
rements?" I would like the answer to those on tape and in writing. And then we need to work at launching the largest "industry and public" backlash ever, to end this sort of stuff and ensure it NEVER comes back. Mark Koskenmaki <

RE: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
ived will derived with the input from the telecoms to bankrupt as many small ISP's as possible. I predict that in 2 years there will not be enough WISP's left to fund WISPA at all, unless the dues go up on the order 20 to 50 times. > This, in my opinion, is just big brother lic

[WISPA] So what do you think

2007-02-12 Thread wispa
you folks. Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives

Re: [WISPA] Powerconsumption

2007-02-05 Thread wispa
a > was collected. > > 330 Hours > 1.85 KWH > ..07 A > 05 WATT > 07 VA > > I could use some help deciphering. > > I need to understand battery capacities and how to calculate run times > based on the above info and a given battery size. Also charging

Re: [WISPA] Typical OFDM CPE antennas

2007-02-04 Thread wispa
to implement is irresponsible, in my view. > > Lonnie > > -- > Lonnie Nunweiler > Valemount Networks Corporation > http://www.star-os.com/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Typical OFDM CPE antennas

2007-02-03 Thread wispa
n OFDM clients work fine for 900 mhz at -85, so long as you weren't hoping to get past 1M throughput in a 5mhz wide channel. My first 40 clients were ALL 18 db grids, be they 1 mile or 23 miles. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Br

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-28 Thread wispa
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Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-27 Thread wispa
d that's not going to make me rich in any sense of the word.  Different market, different service, different universe.   :)  > > Travis > Microserv > > wispa wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:27:22 -0800, George Rogato wrote Blake Bowers wrote: You know, the only real difference b

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-27 Thread wispa
uot;Rubbermaid" story. > Walmart, dropped Rubbermaid off at the door of bakruptcy. Popular > story about the way they do business. > > All Walmart business practices do is give everyone an example of > extreme agressiveness of those sharks out there. > > -- > WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Form FCC477 - I called CPI

2007-01-26 Thread wispa
n never really > trust their intent. > > Forbes Mercy > President - Washington Broadband, Inc. > www.wabroadband.com > I tried emailing them, but they don't respond to emails that say "I don't like what you're trying to do, why are you doing this?" It&

Re: [WISPA] Form FCC477

2007-01-26 Thread wispa
ould having a dumb pipe delivering bits to customers make me required to risk my information in the first place? It may seem against our interests, but I really think we should be on the offensive against CPI on this in terms of "It's not really a federal case... The nation's fut

Re: [WISPA] My apologies...

2007-01-24 Thread wispa
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:35 -0700, wispa wrote > On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:36:49 -0600, John Scrivner wrote > > The government cannot request data with a note saying it is My apologies. I didn't realize my webmail client didn't have a full signature set up. I posted "an

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetitionin the US

2007-01-24 Thread wispa
e, that would help. If it meant telling the federal land managers (USFS, BLM, etd) to stop demanding a half million dollar EIS to build a tower for a WIFI backhaul, and other such nonsense, that's "getting out of the way", too. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscrib

Re: [WISPA] CPI suing FCC to get at real state of broadbandcompetition in the US

2007-01-24 Thread wispa
information. That someone will come along later and get to that information when it was promised to be confidential... well... even WISPA could find itself in that position if it collected it. I don't know why or how WISPA could get sued, but I don't think any of us foresaw the FC

Re: [WISPA] Canopy Site, off-power-grid

2006-03-06 Thread wispa
Canopy AP, one Canopy > SM and a router, like Mikrotik in between ? > > This is in NJ, not too good an environment for solar I imagine, > although we'll be on a real high hill top (1250' elev) for this area... > > R > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wis

Re: [WISPA] Back to the hurricaine......A time to focus

2005-08-31 Thread wispa
government and private, but we're unique, in that we can do what nobody else c an do easily. The HAM radio guys are mobilized in considerable numbers, to try to help people find thier families and whatnot, by patching in phone service from places its working. We ARE behind the curve on

Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-21 Thread wispa
9 per month for the first 6 months, and they say DSL can't do that. So I'm wondering how the heck wisps here are competing against 6 megs at 19.99 per month for the first 6 months? George -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailm

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