Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread RickG
than WISPA to represent them? I cant think of anyone better.
>>>
>>> I'll be honest, this whole DUES thing is a big frustration to me, Its a
>>> topic that has been discussed for 5 years now. I cant fathom to understand
>>> what the hold up is to join or pay more. What more could WISPA possibly do
>>> to show they provide over $250 of value? WHy would a WISP not want to join
>>> and contribute, when there is so much to gain by contributing the little
>>> amount asked to have contributed?
>>>
>>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get
>>> harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in Congress and
>>> FCC.
>>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get
>>> re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and effect
>>> possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight for...  I'd
>>> even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues, that they include a
>>> note that says, and please allocate some of my dues to fight for topic
>>> X.  Tell the Director what is important to you, and back it with a
>>> check.
>>>
>>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my life
>>> the last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because what WISPA
>>> does is important. It was important enough, that I wanted to be there
>>> involved. But I can tell, since I left the board, and started focusing more
>>> time on my own business, my business profitabilty has increased
>>> substantially. I can tell you, $250 is a steal for me, to be able to rest
>>> assured knowing that others are working hard for the interests of my company
>>> at federal levels, so I can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I
>>> say, help WISPA do their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>  *From:* Rick Harnish 
>>> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>
>>>  Kurt,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
>>> else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
>>> in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
>>> almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
>>> Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
>>> a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
>>> country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
>>> are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
>>> expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
>>> low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
>>> type efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were
>>> almost $100,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>>> industry.  Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick Harnish*
>>>
>>> Executive Director
>>>
>>> WISPA
>>>
>>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>>
>>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>>
>>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>>
>>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I had
>>> no idea that there was as much 

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I contributed money before in a fund-raising effort.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 1/26/2011 3:02 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
> What about simply a fundraising effort? That would test the waters without
> committing to any type of rate increase and the like.



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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Jon,

I personally like Chucks suggestion... Charging for subsriber count ranges 
via tiers, and using the honor system.  It gives WISP an option to pay more, 
with the likelihood they will do the right thing, and those with more stake 
in the game with more to gain, will havea mechanism enabling to help more 
for mutual benefit.

However, I recognize your point, of not wanting to turnoff members. But we 
cant ignore there is a clear benefit to having tiers. If concerned about 
turning off people by a tiered method, a possible solution is to reduce 
number of tiers to fewer, the bare mminimum to address the problem. The 
biggest reason for tiers is to never have a dues amount to large that it 
prevents some smaller but interested parties from justifying joining, but 
yet having Due at a higher rate for most members, in line with what can best 
help accomplish the goals the members desire.  A small startup being exposed 
to WISPA, might question $500, but likely wouldn't question $250.  But $500 
dues is really needed to make a large neough impact. There is jsut as much a 
risk of loosing large WISPs as members, because WISPA doesn;t charge enough 
to afford to make a large enough impact, and therefore looks less relevent 
to the larger WISP. A mechanism must be in place to accommodate both profile 
companies..

For example, the Tiers could be just two... $250 for under 100subs, and $500 
for over 100.

Another option could be to have a first year discount. Allow Startups to pay 
$250, to experience the benefit of WISPA, with the assumption that the 
startup needs a year of growth before they are made to put in equal 
contribution as other more established WISPs.  And again, because of the 
honor system, it could be left up to the applicant to state whether they 
considered themselves a startup or not to get a discount.. But even then, 
Associate membership might serve the purpose of low cost membership for 
startups.

However, I personally believe that the very best way to accomplish WISPA's 
revenue goals is the accumulative effort of many. The easiest sell, and 
biggest impact could be obtained if every WISPA member stepped up to pay 
just a little bit more. As I stated before in this thread

I beleive the lowest tier WISP Principle membership fee should be $350 (not 
250). I beleive all of us should be able to afford $350.  (and if I'm wrong, 
the honor system can assist with that). And that alone would raise $30k, 
right off the bat.  I feel strongly about that.

So in compromise I think a good dues structure might be

Assoicate $150
Principle upto 1000subs- $350
Principle over 1000subs- $600

Now if that is not enough revenue, well then I beleive that at this time, 
the additional revenue beyond that needs to come from elsewhere.
Preferrably via new membership recruiting. Or additional fund raising 
events.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Auer" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)


> And would turn off more people than simply doubling the membership fee
> from $250 to $500...
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>>
>> That does add overhead...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it should be based on customer count. Have a base rate, and then 
>>> have the extra based on customer count. It's up to the WISP to report 
>>> correctly.
>>> 1-500 base rate
>>> 500-1000 +100
>>> 1000-2000 +250
>>> etc.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> $250 first year
>>>>
>>>> $500 second+ year
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom DeReggi 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'd gladly pay another $250 per year more, if everyone would, and 
>>>>> it guaranteed that WISPA would double their legal spending, for twice 
>>>>> the FCC lobbying effort. My only complaint is that we could be doing 
>>>>> more, if more money was collected to fund it.
>>>>> I'd argue after 6+ years at it, even just to cover inflation, a price 
>>>

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I believe more than half will pay the $500 year two which would more
than cover any losses due to the year 2 increase.

 

Now is it advantageous to have more members even if they don't want to
pay more? If we lose 25%, but have more fees overall, is that going to
hurt our power in numbers?

 

Dylan

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 

But if the first year was $250 and they could either a) see the value
and pay more or b) not see the value and get out it makes sense to me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:

And would turn off more people than simply doubling the membership fee
from $250 to $500...

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman

 wrote:
>
> That does add overhead...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chuck Hogg 
wrote:
>>
>> I think it should be based on customer count.  Have a base rate, and
then have the extra based on customer count.  It's up to the WISP to
report correctly.
>> 1-500 base rate
>> 500-1000 +100
>> 1000-2000 +250
>> etc.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
>>>
>>> $250 first year
>>>
>>> $500 second+ year
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom DeReggi
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And I'd gladly pay another $250 per year more, if everyone would,
and it guaranteed that WISPA would double their legal spending, for
twice the FCC lobbying effort. My only complaint is that we could be
doing more, if more money was collected to fund it.
>>>> I'd argue after 6+ years at it, even just to cover inflation, a
price increase of 3% per year is in line.
>>>> Even if dues were raised jsut a little to $350 principle, and $150
Associate, the increase would be substantial for the organization, but
almost unnoticed by the paying member. Just about anyone can afford an
extra $50-100 per year.
>>>> That combined with a target increase of 10% in membership
recruitment, it would add up.
>>>>
>>>> I'd agree... $500-$1000 Dues might deter some people from staying
members or joining. But I'll never understand why a small increase in
dues has not been initiated. At minimum just to slowly test the waters
on what members would be OK with.
>>>>
>>>> I can tell you, without a doubt, its impossible for a WISP not to
get $350 of value from this organization.
>>>> There is an arguement, why pay, if someone else will foot the bill.
But at WISPA, there is no one else to foot the bill.
>>>> Either members do it, or it doesn't get funded.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that this year that both the board raises dues, and that
more general list participants step up to become paying members, and
join our fight to steer the FCC and Congress into better decissions for
our industry.
>>>>
>>>> I know WISPA's voice has made a difference, even of the victory is
not clear. Even with NetNeutrality, some of us felt it was a loss and
WISPs were ignored. But in reality it was a victory because the rules
were not as restrictive as so many experts thought they would be.
>>>>
>>>> What we need is EVERY small, local, grassroots WISP joining our
team. The smaller the member company the better. I dont want to tell the
world that we are made up of mostly big WISPs that each have a million
subs, incorrectly suggesting the bigger WISPs are the most relevent
ones. Instead, I want the world to know that WISPA is the voice for the
MILLION small WISP Providers across the country. (I'll settle for a 1000
:-)
>>>> But I KNOW we can do better than 300.
>>>>
>>>> And heck, even being a 10year old isn't an excuse not to join as an
assoicate member. Most parents would pay $100/year for a Toontown
subscription. I cant imagine that a parent wouldn't JUMP at the
opportunity to pay $100 to steer their kid (from toontown) into a
learning opportunity to interact with experienced WISP CEOs on a full
membership list.  Thats as good as any intern program.
>>>>
>>>> And now for the full fledged WISP company... $250 is NOTHING! Just
think about everyt

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Justin Wilson
>>>>subscription. I cant imagine that a parent wouldn't JUMP at the
>>>>>opportunity to pay $100 to steer their kid (from toontown) into a
>>>>>learning opportunity to interact with experienced WISP CEOs on a full
>>>>>membership list.  Thats as good as any intern program.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now for the full fledged WISP company... $250 is NOTHING! Just
>>>>>think about everything that you can buy for $250. Some of us exect to
>>>>>pay more than that for a nice dinner on the town or a pair of shoes.
>>>>>$250 is Peanuts comparatively to what similar associations charge.
>>>>>I'm pretty sure WISPA should go into the guinees book of World record
>>>>>as the assoication with the lowest Dues of all time. Id argue that if
>>>>>someone cant justify $250 represent the intereests of their business
>>>>>and liveihood, should they even be in this business? And even then,
>>>>>I'd argue, if money is that tight, even more of a reason to join
>>>>>WISPA, to get more bank for the buck, cause they aren't going to be
>>>>>afforing their own lawyers anytime soon. And when picking an
>>>>>organization to support who else would a WISP choose more worthy than
>>>>>WISPA to represent them? I cant think of anyone better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be honest, this whole DUES thing is a big frustration to me,
>>>>>Its a topic that has been discussed for 5 years now. I cant fathom to
>>>>>understand what the hold up is to join or pay more. What more could
>>>>>WISPA possibly do to show they provide over $250 of value? WHy would
>>>>>a WISP not want to join and contribute, when there is so much to gain
>>>>>by contributing the little amount asked to have contributed?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get
>>>>>harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in
>>>>>Congress and FCC.
>>>>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get
>>>>>re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and
>>>>>effect possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight
>>>>>for...  I'd even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues,
>>>>>that they include a note that says, and please allocate some of my
>>>>>dues to fight for topic X.  Tell the Director what is important
>>>>>to you, and back it with a check.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my
>>>>>life the last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because
>>>>>what WISPA does is important. It was important enough, that I wanted
>>>>>to be there involved. But I can tell, since I left the board, and
>>>>>started focusing more time on my own business, my business
>>>>>profitabilty has increased substantially. I can tell you, $250 is a
>>>>>steal for me, to be able to rest assured knowing that others are
>>>>>working hard for the interests of my company at federal levels, so I
>>>>>can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I say, help WISPA
>>>>>do their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Rick Harnish
>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very
>>>>>expensive.  Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just
>>>>>about everything else is twice what it is in the common world.
>>>>>However, to be clued in and in touch with the daily events that
>>>>>happen at the FCC and Congress, it is almost essential that we
>>>>>maintain a presence there through our attorney.  Many associations
>>>>>have their corporate offices in the

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
G! Just
> think about everything that you can buy for $250. Some of us exect to pay
> more than that for a nice dinner on the town or a pair of shoes. $250 is
> Peanuts comparatively to what similar associations charge. I'm pretty sure
> WISPA should go into the guinees book of World record as the assoication
> with the lowest Dues of all time. Id argue that if someone cant justify $250
> represent the intereests of their business and liveihood, should they even
> be in this business? And even then, I'd argue, if money is that tight,
> even more of a reason to join WISPA, to get more bank for the buck, cause
> they aren't going to be afforing their own lawyers anytime soon. And when
> picking an organization to support who else would a WISP choose more worthy
> than WISPA to represent them? I cant think of anyone better.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll be honest, this whole DUES thing is a big frustration to me, Its
> a topic that has been discussed for 5 years now. I cant fathom to understand
> what the hold up is to join or pay more. What more could WISPA possibly do
> to show they provide over $250 of value? WHy would a WISP not want to join
> and contribute, when there is so much to gain by contributing the little
> amount asked to have contributed?
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get
> harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in Congress and
> FCC.
> >>>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get
> re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and effect
> possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight for...  I'd
> even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues, that they include a
> note that says, and please allocate some of my dues to fight for topic
> X.  Tell the Director what is important to you, and back it with a
> check.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my life
> the last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because what WISPA
> does is important. It was important enough, that I wanted to be there
> involved. But I can tell, since I left the board, and started focusing more
> time on my own business, my business profitabilty has increased
> substantially. I can tell you, $250 is a steal for me, to be able to rest
> assured knowing that others are working hard for the interests of my company
> at federal levels, so I can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I
> say, help WISPA do their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Respectfully,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom DeReggi
> >>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: Rick Harnish
> >>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kurt,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
> else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
> in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
> almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
> Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
> a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
> country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
> are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
> expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
> low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
> type efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year
> were almost $100,000.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
> industry.  Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Respectfully,
> >>>>
> >>>>
&g

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Jon Auer
retty sure 
>>>> WISPA should go into the guinees book of World record as the assoication 
>>>> with the lowest Dues of all time. Id argue that if someone cant justify 
>>>> $250 represent the intereests of their business and liveihood, should they 
>>>> even be in this business? And even then, I'd argue, if money is that 
>>>> tight, even more of a reason to join WISPA, to get more bank for the buck, 
>>>> cause they aren't going to be afforing their own lawyers anytime soon. And 
>>>> when picking an organization to support who else would a WISP choose more 
>>>> worthy than WISPA to represent them? I cant think of anyone better.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be honest, this whole DUES thing is a big frustration to me, Its a 
>>>> topic that has been discussed for 5 years now. I cant fathom to understand 
>>>> what the hold up is to join or pay more. What more could WISPA possibly do 
>>>> to show they provide over $250 of value? WHy would a WISP not want to join 
>>>> and contribute, when there is so much to gain by contributing the little 
>>>> amount asked to have contributed?
>>>>
>>>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get 
>>>> harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in Congress and 
>>>> FCC.
>>>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get 
>>>> re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and effect 
>>>> possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight for...  I'd 
>>>> even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues, that they include a 
>>>> note that says, and please allocate some of my dues to fight for topic 
>>>> X.  Tell the Director what is important to you, and back it with a 
>>>> check.
>>>>
>>>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my life the 
>>>> last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because what WISPA does 
>>>> is important. It was important enough, that I wanted to be there involved. 
>>>> But I can tell, since I left the board, and started focusing more time on 
>>>> my own business, my business profitabilty has increased substantially. I 
>>>> can tell you, $250 is a steal for me, to be able to rest assured knowing 
>>>> that others are working hard for the interests of my company at federal 
>>>> levels, so I can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I say, 
>>>> help WISPA do their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Rick Harnish
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>>
>>>> Kurt,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.  
>>>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything 
>>>> else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and 
>>>> in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is 
>>>> almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.  
>>>> Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We 
>>>> are a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across 
>>>> the country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in 
>>>> Indiana.  We are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance 
>>>> and other expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we 
>>>> can maintain low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to 
>>>> go to lobbying type efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were 
>>>> almost $100,000.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the 
>>>> industry.  Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our 
>>>> efforts.
>>>

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
ation to support who else would a WISP choose more worthy
>>> than WISPA to represent them? I cant think of anyone better.
>>>
>>> I'll be honest, this whole DUES thing is a big frustration to me, Its a
>>> topic that has been discussed for 5 years now. I cant fathom to understand
>>> what the hold up is to join or pay more. What more could WISPA possibly do
>>> to show they provide over $250 of value? WHy would a WISP not want to join
>>> and contribute, when there is so much to gain by contributing the little
>>> amount asked to have contributed?
>>>
>>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get
>>> harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in Congress and
>>> FCC.
>>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get
>>> re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and effect
>>> possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight for...  I'd
>>> even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues, that they include a
>>> note that says, and please allocate some of my dues to fight for topic
>>> X.  Tell the Director what is important to you, and back it with a
>>> check.
>>>
>>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my life
>>> the last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because what WISPA
>>> does is important. It was important enough, that I wanted to be there
>>> involved. But I can tell, since I left the board, and started focusing more
>>> time on my own business, my business profitabilty has increased
>>> substantially. I can tell you, $250 is a steal for me, to be able to rest
>>> assured knowing that others are working hard for the interests of my company
>>> at federal levels, so I can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I
>>> say, help WISPA do their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>  *From:* Rick Harnish 
>>> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>
>>>  Kurt,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
>>> else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
>>> in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
>>> almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
>>> Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
>>> a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
>>> country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
>>> are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
>>> expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
>>> low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
>>> type efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were
>>> almost $100,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>>> industry.  Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick Harnish*
>>>
>>> Executive Director
>>>
>>> WISPA
>>>
>>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>>
>>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>>
>>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>>
>>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just seen the total expenses sheet,

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
ount asked to have contributed?
>>
>> There is a long road ahead of us, and every year its gonna just get
>> harder. The lobby battle is not over, it is just beginning in Congress and
>> FCC.
>> And I can tell you that in the next 2 years telecom policy will get
>> re-written, and there is no better time than now, to contribute and effect
>> possitive change. There is not a shortage of topics to fight for...  I'd
>> even suggest when folks send in their membership Dues, that they include a
>> note that says, and please allocate some of my dues to fight for topic
>> X.  Tell the Director what is important to you, and back it with a
>> check.
>>
>> I can tell you from experience... That I spent a large part of my life the
>> last 4 years engaged on WISPA board, and I did it, because what WISPA does
>> is important. It was important enough, that I wanted to be there involved.
>> But I can tell, since I left the board, and started focusing more time on my
>> own business, my business profitabilty has increased substantially. I can
>> tell you, $250 is a steal for me, to be able to rest assured knowing that
>> others are working hard for the interests of my company at federal levels,
>> so I can do my job and focus on my company's operation. I say, help WISPA do
>> their job, and help fund their efforts via Dues.
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>  *From:* Rick Harnish 
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>>  Kurt,
>>
>>
>>
>> You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
>> else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
>> in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
>> almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
>> Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
>> a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
>> country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
>> are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
>> expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
>> low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
>> type efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were
>> almost $100,000.
>>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>> industry.  Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I had
>> no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running WISPA.
>> Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP compared to the
>> overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty much everyone that is a
>> WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is getting benefit from this
>> organization from the lobbying efforts and FCC agenda. I encourage anyone
>> that is not a current member to sign up. I know that there are a TON of
>> wisps out there that are not members. I would estimate that possibly only
>> 25-50% of all total WISPS are members.
>>
>>
>>
>> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
>> because of all that they are benefitting from at the expense of the rest of
>> us….
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, O

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
%#$! kids get off my lawn!

On 1/26/2011 12:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  
  
  

  

  

  



  Lets
all unite and take over the world!
   
  
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc
  Communications
P.O.
  Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
419-562-6405
 
Sent from Microsoft
  Outlook
 
  
  

  

From:
  wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
  Of Josh Luthman
  Sent:
  Wednesday, January 26, 2011
  12:50 PM
  To:
  WISPA General
List
  Subject:
  Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -
  
   
  Punk kids unite!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Wayne St
Suite
  1337
Troy,
  OH 45373


  
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM,
  Blake Covarrubias <bl...@beamspeed.com>
  wrote:

  On Jan 26,
2011, at 8:15
AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17
in 2005!

I was 19 in 2005.
  
  Neat to see other people my age on the
  list.
  
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
All of you young people...

I'm 28.   ;-)

-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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On 1/26/2011 11:48 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
> I was 19 in 2005.
>
> Neat to see other people my age on the list.
>
> --
> Blake Covarrubias
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Jon Auer
I was 20.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Mike Bushard Jr  wrote:
> I was 21.
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Blake Covarrubias 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> > Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>>
>> I was 19 in 2005.
>>
>> Neat to see other people my age on the list.
>>
>> --
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread ~NGL~
YOU CAN HAVE IT, WE SCREWED IT UP
  From: Kurt Fankhauser 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:55 AM
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -


  Lets all unite and take over the world!

   

  Kurt Fankhauser

  Wavelinc Communications

  P.O. Box 126

  Bucyrus, OH 44820

  http://www.wavelinc.com

  419-562-6405

   

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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:50 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

   

  Punk kids unite!!!

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Blake Covarrubias  
wrote:

  On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  > Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

  I was 19 in 2005.

  Neat to see other people my age on the list.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread ~NGL~
I WAS 42
  From: Mike Bushard Jr 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:55 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -


  I was 21.


  On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Blake Covarrubias  
wrote:

On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!


I was 19 in 2005.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Lets all unite and take over the world!

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

419-562-6405

 

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

 

Punk kids unite!!!

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Blake Covarrubias 
wrote:

On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

I was 19 in 2005.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Mike Bushard Jr
I was 21.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:

> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> > Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>
> I was 19 in 2005.
>
> Neat to see other people my age on the list.
>
> --
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>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Punk kids unite!!!

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:

> On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> > Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>
> I was 19 in 2005.
>
> Neat to see other people my age on the list.
>
> --
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>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

I was 19 in 2005.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Forbes Mercy

Hey me too I was 17 in 1975 :)

On 1/26/2011 7:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett" <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]

>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> 
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>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]

>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org <mailto:rharn...@wispa.org>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]

>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is
>> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and
>> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign
>> up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not
>> members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS
>> are members.
>>
>> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
>> because of all that th

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
So buy some new shoes!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists
wrote:

>  Sigh…I think I have a couple pairs of shoes that are older than you
> guys…  J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
> ImageStream Sales Manager
> 800-813-5123 x106
>   --
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -
>
>
>
> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>
> On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> > 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
> >>
> >> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
> >> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
> >> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
> >> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
> >> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
> >> Meeting didn't you?
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
> >> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>
> >> Wavelinc Communications
> >>
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >>
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>
> >> http://www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >> 419-562-6405
> >>
> >> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Kurt,
> >>
> >> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
> >> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
> >> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
> >> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
> >> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
> >> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
> >> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
> >> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
> >> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
> >> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
> >> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
> >> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
> >> lobbying type efforts.
> >>
> >> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
> >> were almost $100,000.
> >>
> >> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
> >> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >>
> >> *Rick Harnish*
> >>
> >> Executive Director
> >>
> >> WISPA
> >>
> >> 260-307-4000 cell
> >>
> >> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> >>
> >> Skype: rick.harnish.
> >>
> >> rharn...@wispa.org
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread St. Louis Broadband
LOL Jeff, I hear ya . ;-)

 

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www.ShowMeBroadband.com

www.StLouisBroadband.com

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314-974-5600

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:36 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

 

Sigh.I think I have a couple pairs of shoes that are older than you guys.  J

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

 

Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in 
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and 
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is 
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur 
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis 
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one 
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> --------
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive. 
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about 
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to 
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC 
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there 
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices 
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we 
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member 
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative 
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses 
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low 
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to 
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year 
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the 
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our 
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I 
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running 
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP 
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty 
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not)

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sigh.I think I have a couple pairs of shoes that are older than you guys.
:-)

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

 

Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in 
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and 
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is 
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur 
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis 
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one 
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> --------
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive. 
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about 
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to 
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC 
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there 
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices 
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we 
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member 
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative 
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses 
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low 
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to 
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year 
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the 
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our 
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I 
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running 
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP 
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty 
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is 
>> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and 
>> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign 
>> up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not 
>> members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS 
>> are members.
>>
>> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves 
>> because of all that they are benefitting from at the exp

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Sneaky, sneaky sir.

I don't do much on Facebook.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

>  You should have known that! We are facebook friends! Where were you
> hiding all these years Josh? I have been active on the lists since 2004 and
> don’t ever remember seeing your name, but just out of no-where you seem to
> have appeared and already know everything and now I am seeing your name all
> over the place, all the lists, whats up with that?
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
>
> Wavelinc Communications
>
> P.O. Box 126
>
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
> http://www.wavelinc.com
>
> 419-562-6405
>
>
>
> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>
>
>   --
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -
>
>
>
> Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
>
> On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> > 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
> >>
> >> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
> >> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
> >> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
> >> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
> >> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
> >> Meeting didn't you?
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
> >> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >>
> >> Wavelinc Communications
> >>
> >> P.O. Box 126
> >>
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >>
> >> http://www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >> 419-562-6405
> >>
> >> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
> >> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
> >>
> >> Kurt,
> >>
> >> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
> >> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
> >> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
> >> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
> >> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
> >> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
> >> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
> >> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
> >> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
> >> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
> >> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
> >> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
> >> lobbying type efforts.
> >>
> >> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
> >> were almost $100,000.
> >>
> >> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
> >> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >>
> >> *Rick Harnish*
> >>
> >> Executive Director
> >>
> >> WISPA
> >>
> >> 260-307-4000 cell
> >>
> >> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
> >>
> >> Skype: rick.harnish.
> >>
> >> rharn...@wispa.org
> &g

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
You should have known that! We are facebook friends! Where were you hiding
all these years Josh? I have been active on the lists since 2004 and don't
ever remember seeing your name, but just out of no-where you seem to have
appeared and already know everything and now I am seeing your name all over
the place, all the lists, whats up with that?

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

419-562-6405

 

Sent from Microsoft Outlook

 

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

 

Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in 
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and 
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is 
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur 
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis 
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one 
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> --------
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive. 
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about 
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to 
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC 
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there 
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices 
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we 
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member 
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative 
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses 
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low 
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to 
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year 
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the 
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our 
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I 
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running 
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP 
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty 
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is 
>> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and 
>> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that i

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES -

2011-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!
On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> --------
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is
>> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and
>> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign
>> up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not
>> members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS
>> are members.
>>
>> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
>> because of all that they are benefitting from at the expense of the
>> rest of us
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> 

Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

2011-01-26 Thread Stuart Pierce
Mac Dearman, that Scottish guy. Michelob Ultra, what the heck is up with that.

-- Original Message --
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:44:30 -0500

>Yes I won a nice 5ghz moto starter pack. Talked moto into changing that out
>to a 4.9ghz PTP link with the help of Ray Savich from Motorola. Here is a
>link to the case study.
>http://www.motorola.com/web/Business/Products/Wireless%20Networks/Wireless%2
>0Broadband%20Networks/Point-to-Point/_Documents/staticfiles/Breaking%20the%2
>0Shackles%20of%20Inmate%20Transport%20Costs.pdf?localeId=33
>
> 
>
>Rick,
>
> 
>
>I loved the WISP-NOG show, it was one of the best show I have attended. I
>consider that to be back in the early days and I still look back upon that
>show as a historic memory, Moto was just announcing their 900mhz Canopy
>platform. Not too many vendors there at all, think WISP-ROUTER was the only
>one. I learned more from sitting down in the hotel bar talking with a lot of
>the big names like Mac Dearman, Butch Evans, John Scrivner, Charles Wu and
>probably a few others I forget about. I think I had about 35 clients back
>then. Never though I would get past the 100 mark or even the 200 or 300. I
>remember the presentation that Todd Bergstrohm gave and at that time 3db
>networks had about 3500 clients I think. Oh remember the dinner we all went
>to? Remember that "butt paste" or whatever it was called, lol. Then we had
>the "Beer-n-Wireless-Gear" and I wasn't even old enough to drink.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Kurt Fankhauser
>
>Wavelinc Communications
>
>P.O. Box 126
>
>Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
>http://www.wavelinc.com
>
>419-562-6405
>
> 
>
>Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Rick Harnish
>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:25 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>
> 
>
>Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in 2005.
>He was 18 at the time I think.  He took a few years off and came back last
>summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting.  It is good to have you back!
>You have been an impressive young entrepreneur to watch.  I think you won a
>pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis Meeting didn't you?
>
> 
>
>Rick
>
> 
>
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>
> 
>
>Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
>investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>
> 
>
>Kurt Fankhauser
>
>Wavelinc Communications
>
>P.O. Box 126
>
>Bucyrus, OH 44820
>
>http://www.wavelinc.com
>
>419-562-6405
>
> 
>
>Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Rick Harnish
>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>
> 
>
>Kurt,
>
> 
>
>You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
>else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
>in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
>almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
>Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
>a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
>country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
>are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
>expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
>low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
>type efforts.
>
> 
>
>For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were
>almost $100,000.
>
> 
>
>I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the industry.
>Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.
>
> 
>
>Respectfully,
>
> 
>
>Rick Harnish
>
>Executive Director
>
>WISPA
>
>260-307-4000 cell
>
>866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>
>Skype: rick.harnish.
>
>rharn...@wispa.org
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
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