[WISPA] Waverider Equipment
I have alot of Waverider equipment I need to get rid of.. 2004-2005-2006 and CCU'S.. anyone interested? please hit me off list.. webbil...@surfmore.net jeanh...@surfmore.net or phone the office or my cell. 931-363-7700 office 931-638-7873 cell.. Thanks Jean WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed
I am in need of some of the early 3000 EUM radio connectors for LMR200 cable. We do not deploy them any longer, but I have customers who still pick up the radios and yank the connector off the cable or break them. Anyone know where I might find them or have any laying around on a shelf? Thank you, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed
We have used ends from L-COM in the past. http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21041 leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed I am in need of some of the early 3000 EUM radio connectors for LMR200 cable. We do not deploy them any longer, but I have customers who still pick up the radios and yank the connector off the cable or break them. Anyone know where I might find them or have any laying around on a shelf? Thank you, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed
I ordered 10 of them a few months ago but they only fit LMR195 and we have LMR200 everywhere. If we need to replace the cabling I guess we will - much easier to replace the end than run a new cable and re-tape the antenna connection, especially this time of year. Thanks for the info. Dave On 1/11/2012 1:29 PM, Leroy Koglin wrote: We have used ends from L-COM in the past. http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21041 leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed I am in need of some of the early 3000 EUM radio connectors for LMR200 cable. We do not deploy them any longer, but I have customers who still pick up the radios and yank the connector off the cable or break them. Anyone know where I might find them or have any laying around on a shelf? Thank you, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed
Use some sandpaper to slightly reduce the diameter of the center conductor of the LMR200 where the pin connects to. I have not found other 3rd party source. You could try Vecima direct. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed I ordered 10 of them a few months ago but they only fit LMR195 and we have LMR200 everywhere. If we need to replace the cabling I guess we will - much easier to replace the end than run a new cable and re-tape the antenna connection, especially this time of year. Thanks for the info. Dave On 1/11/2012 1:29 PM, Leroy Koglin wrote: We have used ends from L-COM in the past. http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21041 leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hulsebus Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WaveRider connectors needed I am in need of some of the early 3000 EUM radio connectors for LMR200 cable. We do not deploy them any longer, but I have customers who still pick up the radios and yank the connector off the cable or break them. Anyone know where I might find them or have any laying around on a shelf? Thank you, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
An elevated noise floor will push your avg rssi levels up basically making your acceptable EUM signal levels higher than usual. A typical EUM under perfect conditions can have link up to -89, but with an elevated noise floor the acceptable signal level becomes higher and higher. You'll need to run a spectrum analysis at the CCU to see what noise floor you get. A good way to test is with the file get and file put commands either from the EUM or CCU. This performs a bandwidth test between radios. My experience is that with a unacceptable connection the upload will be really slow or non existent. By the way, I have an excess inventory of these radios that I'm looking to sell real cheap. Contact me off list if you're interested. Jon On 9/12/2010 12:53 AM, Chris Hudson wrote: In the eum (client) use 'ra li' and make sure you see at least 6 for signal strength and 3 for quality. Waveriders are polling protocol and high latency is normal unless you keep the data connection active. Chris Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all of our testing we are seeing high ping spikes. Is there any other commands than air that you would recommend for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them? Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side. I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though, especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer. Jon On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side. I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though, especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer. Jon On 9/10/2010 6:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
Mac OS X (bash) says: ping -i.4 192.168.7.1 ping: -i interval too short: Operation not permitted using sudo makes it work. It might be the same for Linux. Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote: On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all of our testing we are seeing high ping spikes. Is there any other commands than air that you would recommend for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them? Try ping -i.4 in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping iterations under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously. -- Regards, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
What about using flood ping -f. Does that work in Linux. I use that in Mac OS X. Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote: On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all of our testing we are seeing high ping spikes. Is there any other commands than air that you would recommend for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them? Try ping -i.4 in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping iterations under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously. -- Regards, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
Part of their mac polling will turn it off if their is not traffic for a while. If I remember correctly their is a high priority setting that will keep it up. I will check all that at the office Monday. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net wrote: On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all of our testing we are seeing high ping spikes. Is there any other commands than air that you would recommend for trouble shooting and if there are do you mind explaining them? Try ping -i.4 in *nix or the equivalent. You need to keep the ping iterations under 400 milliseconds to force the modem to be active continuously. -- Regards, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000
I had some links like that when we used waverider but it was on sectors with little interference. They will probably work if you have a low noise floor. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Does anyone use this equipment or have experience in using this equipment? With Canopy/UBNT/MikroTik we have pretty much set the standard for QoS reasons that the signal should not be worse than -75. I have seen another WISP using this older WaveRider gear, and most of his clients are at -80 to -95. Are signals using this equipment that usable at those rates? Can anyone shed some light on this really old gear? Any information is appreciated... Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed
Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear. If you have the following available, please contact Brent offlist. bhav...@marktwain.coop His request is: Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's. Thanks Brent Respectfully, Rick Harnish President WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed
I saw a lot of Vecima 900 MHz peanuts dormant in a closet at Atria Networks in Peterborough, ON F. On 2010-05-13, at 1:09 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear. If you have the following available, please contact Brent offlist. bhav...@marktwain.coop His request is: Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's. Thanks Brent Respectfully, Rick Harnish President WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Francois D. Menard Project Manager Xit telecom inc. 1350 Royale #800 Trois-Rivieres, QC, G9A 4J4 Canada Tel: +1 819 601-6633 Fax: +1 819 374-0395 fmen...@xittelecom.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU 3100's needed
I saw a lot of Vecima 900 MHz peanuts dormant in a closet at Atria Networks in Peterborough, ON F. On 2010-05-13, at 1:09 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Brent Havens of Mark Twain Coop is looking for some Waverider gear. If you have the following available, please contact Brent offlist. bhav...@marktwain.coop His request is: Do you know of anyone that has either stopped using the waveriders or a vendor that sells used Vecima gear. I need a couple of CCU 3100's. Thanks Brent Respectfully, Rick Harnish President WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Francois D. Menard Project Manager Xit telecom inc. 1350 Royale #800 Trois-Rivieres, QC, G9A 4J4 Canada Tel: +1 819 601-6633 Fax: +1 819 374-0395 fmen...@xittelecom.com -- Francois D. Menard Project Manager Xit telecom inc. 1350 Royale #800 Trois-Rivieres, QC, G9A 4J4 Canada Tel: +1 819 601-6633 Fax: +1 819 374-0395 fmen...@xittelecom.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] waverider vs alvarion
I think ther are specific issues regarding ofdm and 900 MHz that causes problems. We did everything possible to fix noise and radio issues. We use all tiltek sector antennas with lmr cabling and cavity filters at each radio. We were able to get sporadic speeds up to 8mbps. We did a radio firmware upgrade that did nothing to improve the problem. One of the big problems we saw was the radio would seem to lose connectivity with the access point. We would run continuous ping tests and they would stop for long periods of time. We replaced them with alvarion dsss radios and have had no problem since. Also we no longer needed the cavity filters. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
So far, I'm a huge fan of the Alvarion VL 900. The latest revision is much better than the original release. Speeds are quite impressive. We have not tested it yet, but supposed to do up to 8mbit in a 5mhz channel. Assuming you get a real clean channel. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
The last I check waverider was claiming their ccu8000 would push 13mbps. I have used the CCU8000 with the eum8000 and was only able to pull a 4mb test from the ccu. At that point the customer was thrilled. 4mbps beats dialup any day. But the point remains that I was only able to get 4mbps. On a side note if you are considering Waverider equipment. Invest in rubber tape and dielectric grease. I have a whole shed full of dead radios because water got into the ethernet connector. Good luck, Ron On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: So far, I'm a huge fan of the Alvarion VL 900. The latest revision is much better than the original release. Speeds are quite impressive. We have not tested it yet, but supposed to do up to 8mbit in a 5mhz channel. Assuming you get a real clean channel. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
The Ethernet setup for the Alvarion VL is nice same as other VL units. However the SU-VL-900 units only come in a SU-E form required the use of external antenna. I'm fine with this, but one thing to keep in mind. I hope the will have the option for the future with a built in 9 or 10dbi antenna but for now, just external. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Calhoun Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 The last I check waverider was claiming their ccu8000 would push 13mbps. I have used the CCU8000 with the eum8000 and was only able to pull a 4mb test from the ccu. At that point the customer was thrilled. 4mbps beats dialup any day. But the point remains that I was only able to get 4mbps. On a side note if you are considering Waverider equipment. Invest in rubber tape and dielectric grease. I have a whole shed full of dead radios because water got into the ethernet connector. Good luck, Ron On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: So far, I'm a huge fan of the Alvarion VL 900. The latest revision is much better than the original release. Speeds are quite impressive. We have not tested it yet, but supposed to do up to 8mbit in a 5mhz channel. Assuming you get a real clean channel. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
Most of the customer I'll be upgrading have external antennas already, so I'm hoping that upgrade process will be relatively easy by just changing the indoors radio. For new customers I think it's good that it has an external antenna anyway, because where we are there a lot of trees and very often we need use yagi antennas. Thanks -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 Cameron Kilton wrote: The Ethernet setup for the Alvarion VL is nice same as other VL units. However the SU-VL-900 units only come in a SU-E form required the use of external antenna. I'm fine with this, but one thing to keep in mind. I hope the will have the option for the future with a built in 9 or 10dbi antenna but for now, just external. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Calhoun Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 The last I check waverider was claiming their ccu8000 would push 13mbps. I have used the CCU8000 with the eum8000 and was only able to pull a 4mb test from the ccu. At that point the customer was thrilled. 4mbps beats dialup any day. But the point remains that I was only able to get 4mbps. On a side note if you are considering Waverider equipment. Invest in rubber tape and dielectric grease. I have a whole shed full of dead radios because water got into the ethernet connector. Good luck, Ron On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: So far, I'm a huge fan of the Alvarion VL 900. The latest revision is much better than the original release. Speeds are quite impressive. We have not tested it yet, but supposed to do up to 8mbit in a 5mhz channel. Assuming you get a real clean channel. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
I would act soon. Alvarion has a great special ending tomorrow. Buy one AU get one Free. I just ordered 5 of them last week. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Most of the customer I'll be upgrading have external antennas already, so I'm hoping that upgrade process will be relatively easy by just changing the indoors radio. For new customers I think it's good that it has an external antenna anyway, because where we are there a lot of trees and very often we need use yagi antennas. Thanks -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 Cameron Kilton wrote: The Ethernet setup for the Alvarion VL is nice same as other VL units. However the SU-VL-900 units only come in a SU-E form required the use of external antenna. I'm fine with this, but one thing to keep in mind. I hope the will have the option for the future with a built in 9 or 10dbi antenna but for now, just external. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Calhoun Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 The last I check waverider was claiming their ccu8000 would push 13mbps. I have used the CCU8000 with the eum8000 and was only able to pull a 4mb test from the ccu. At that point the customer was thrilled. 4mbps beats dialup any day. But the point remains that I was only able to get 4mbps. On a side note if you are considering Waverider equipment. Invest in rubber tape and dielectric grease. I have a whole shed full of dead radios because water got into the ethernet connector. Good luck, Ron On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: So far, I'm a huge fan of the Alvarion VL 900. The latest revision is much better than the original release. Speeds are quite impressive. We have not tested it yet, but supposed to do up to 8mbit in a 5mhz channel. Assuming you get a real clean channel. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900 Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
I'd really like to hear some success stories from people using Name brand 900Mhz OFDM, compared to non-OFDM.. Or more importantly, if anyone has had bad experience with Name brand 900Mhz OFDM, compared to non-OFDM.. I'd also like input from Name Brand OFDM 900Mhz manufacturers regarding what embedded filering they might have in their radios, to combat noise which is just about everywhere with 900Mhz. Let me explain I recognize in a noise free environment, it likely works well, but I'm also concerned with the amount of after-rain fade 900Mhz has, and what that does to OFDM and higher QAM modulations that require higher SNR budgets. Over the last 5 years, I of course have evaluated ALL non-OFDM 900Mhz products. I've done most of my OFDM testing with ALL the OEM (Atheros mPCI) brand 900Mhz products. But I avoided spending the big bucks on Name brand OFDM gear, just to do Demos. But in my Live Testing, I'm regularly running into quality issues with the Oem OFDM products, and the stories all end the same. Eventually the final solution is I put a Trango DSSS 900Mhz sector in its place, and then I finally get consistent quality and gain a happy customer. Since the beginning of time, Trango had always been a strong 900Mhz product to get the job done because its ability to work in high noise enviroments, due to its high quality built-in filtering, which is near equivelent to a Cavity Filter. In my experience, I've successfully run quality Trango links at receive strengths lower than the scanned noise floor, where as with Atheros running at the noise floor is a formula for prompt dis-association and sporatic high latency, even w/ the spec sheet showing embedded filtering. At first, I questioned the OEM OS that included the Atheros, but I've seen similar results with all OEM OSes. Please recognize these comments are not mean to bash any product or promote any specific product. We successfully use Atheros OEM systems in many locations also. So what I'm trying to establish is... Has my experience been fairly compairing DSSS to OFDM, or Should the real comparison be about the difference between high quality gear versus low budget lower quality gear? Is there an equivellent to a Trango 900Mhz (quality against noise), in OFDM? Has anyone taken a challenging 900Mhz DSSS deployment (Canopy/Trango/First-gen Waverider) and successfully upgraded it to OFDM 900Mhz with out loosing significant amount of customers and/or coverage? And if so, Have you successfully been about to get three Horizonal sectors colocated? With Trango, we were able to get three horizontal sectors colocated, wth minimal self-interference as long as we used Titlek high quality antennas, and had about 10 feet min verticle seperation between them. I see that it would be a tougher challenge to accomplish the same with OFDM that required higher SNR. Sure the 900Mhz OFDM looks good on a spec sheet or likely good for PTP links, but now that its 6 months to a year down the road, whats the real world take for PtMP cell sites? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc 301-515-7774 IntAirNet - Fixed Wireless Broadband WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
You shouldn't have to worry too much about the old product because I think they did a 100% field upgrade at no cost to owners of those AUs, right? You should still check, but I would hope it'd be unusual to find an upgraded unit for sale. Chuck On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Nick Huanca wrote: Hi Jon, We've had extensive experience with the VL900 product line, even through its rough release to market. After Alvarion fixed their hardware and software bugs I could recommend this product hands down based on our experience. Beware of used equipment that may not operate *at all* in minimal noise. There was a revision to the hardware on the AUs to remedy this. Thanks, --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: I have no experience with the Waverider equipment, but Alvarion's pretty darn good (and we do have experience with that). Chuck On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
They have upgraded one of my older units as well. I have two more of the older units left, thankfully they are in the air and in low noise areas, I hope to have them upgraded soon just because. -Cameron You shouldn't have to worry too much about the old product because I think they did a 100% field upgrade at no cost to owners of those AUs, right? You should still check, but I would hope it'd be unusual to find an upgraded unit for sale. Chuck On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Nick Huanca wrote: Hi Jon, We've had extensive experience with the VL900 product line, even through its rough release to market. After Alvarion fixed their hardware and software bugs I could recommend this product hands down based on our experience. Beware of used equipment that may not operate *at all* in minimal noise. There was a revision to the hardware on the AUs to remedy this. Thanks, --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: I have no experience with the Waverider equipment, but Alvarion's pretty darn good (and we do have experience with that). Chuck On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
I have no experience with the Waverider equipment, but Alvarion's pretty darn good (and we do have experience with that). Chuck On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] waverider vs alvarion vl 900
I had around 12 waverider lms8000 radios installed. They were a nightmare. We had problems from day one and pulled all of them. Unless they have made some changes I would stay away from them. Also the dongle on the 8000's were a big problem. Sent from my iPhone - End of message - Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider Vs Alvarion VL 900
Hi Jon, We've had extensive experience with the VL900 product line, even through its rough release to market. After Alvarion fixed their hardware and software bugs I could recommend this product hands down based on our experience. Beware of used equipment that may not operate *at all* in minimal noise. There was a revision to the hardware on the AUs to remedy this. Thanks, --Nick Huanca On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: I have no experience with the Waverider equipment, but Alvarion's pretty darn good (and we do have experience with that). Chuck On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi, We're planning to upgrade a lot of our 900MHz equipment which is currently predominantly Alvarion Breeze Access 900. The main goal is to provide the customer with better speeds The 2 options I'm considering are Alvarion VL900 and Waverider CCU8000 I was wondering if anyone has experience with using both of these radios, and if so, all considered which one do you think is generally better? Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider CCU (old model)
Try these guys http://www.surpluswirelessgear.com/. jack John Scrivner wrote: I am searching for spare gear. Lightning just took another old Waverider CCU. If any of you have some collecting dust I am buying. Hit me offlist with subject line of Waverider CCU. Thanks guys, Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Public Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider CCU (old model)
I am searching for spare gear. Lightning just took another old Waverider CCU. If any of you have some collecting dust I am buying. Hit me offlist with subject line of Waverider CCU. Thanks guys, Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU
I have a customer with one of these and they just want the RouterOS box in front of it to pass DHCP out. Simple BRIDGE as easy as pie, anyone have any docs, suggestions on how to make this thing work? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU
Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a customer with one of these and they just want the RouterOS box in front of it to pass DHCP out. Simple BRIDGE as easy as pie, anyone have any docs, suggestions on how to make this thing work? I think you're looking for the protocol command. Probably protocol through (your other choices are routed and switched). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU
Dennis, Three things.. 1. The radio does need to be in switched mode not routed if you are using the MKTK as the router. protocol switched 2. The DHCP relay server IP needs to be added DHCP add X.X.X.X 3. Enable the DHCP relay DHCP enable That should do it. Make sure the CCU knows how to get to the DHCP relay. If it's in the same subnet shouldn't be a problem, if not you will have to add a route to the CCU. Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a customer with one of these and they just want the RouterOS box in front of it to pass DHCP out. Simple BRIDGE as easy as pie, anyone have any docs, suggestions on how to make this thing work? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WaveRider AP issue
I have a WaveRider CCU3000 that has been rebooting itself randomly for a couple of months, it started out every day or two, now it's multiple times a day. I've changed transmitters, power supply, etc... everything but the LDF6 and Antel antenna, and it continues. Has anyone seen a client radio cause this issue? Basically the transmitter rf stops and within a few seconds reboots. Here's a basic screen shot: RSSI[dBm]RX; TX; R1; R2; R3; F; Retry%; SQ; RNA; RNB RSSI: N/A 412; 130; 4; 0; 0; 0; 3; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 384; 126; 3; 0; 0; 0; 2; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 352; 86;0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 328; 83;1; 0; 0; 0; 1; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0;0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0;0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0;0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0;0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0;0; 0; Reboot and back in operation within a few seconds, but tends to drop terminal server app's and VPN tunnels. Thanks, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WaveRider AP issue
I had this same problem with my CCUs. My support guy said that it was a buffer problem. I solved the problem by doing a firmware upgrade. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:14 PM, David Hulsebuscont...@portative.net wrote: I have a WaveRider CCU3000 that has been rebooting itself randomly for a couple of months, it started out every day or two, now it's multiple times a day. I've changed transmitters, power supply, etc... everything but the LDF6 and Antel antenna, and it continues. Has anyone seen a client radio cause this issue? Basically the transmitter rf stops and within a few seconds reboots. Here's a basic screen shot: RSSI[dBm]RX; TX; R1; R2; R3; F; Retry%; SQ; RNA; RNB RSSI: N/A 412; 130; 4; 0; 0; 0; 3; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 384; 126; 3; 0; 0; 0; 2; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 352; 86; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 328; 83; 1; 0; 0; 0; 1; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; N/A; N/A; N/A RSSI: N/A 0; 0; 0; 0; Reboot and back in operation within a few seconds, but tends to drop terminal server app's and VPN tunnels. Thanks, Dave Hulsebus WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- ~Ron Calhoun KCnet Wireless Administrator WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider EUMs for sale
Forbes Mercy wrote: What brand of AP's can a 900 MHZ EUM connect to? Waverider EUMs will only connect to Waverider CCUs, as far as I know. I'm reasonably certain the CCU (head-end) stuff is backwards-compatible, so these 3000-series EUMs should be able to talk to the newer CCUs, but double-check that yourself before you buy. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider EUMs for sale
What brand of AP's can a 900 MHZ EUM connect to? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:00 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Mike Scrivner Subject: [WISPA] Waverider EUMs for sale We have 30 surplus used Waverider 900 MHz EUMs and power supplies for sale. These units were all fully functional when removed from service. Guaranteed no DOA.. Asking $100 each or best offer. We will split these up if you do not want all 30 of them. Contact m...@mvn.net offlist to arrange for purchase. We will accept VISA or Paypal. Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.32/2030 - Release Date: 04/07/09 06:41:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider EUMs for sale
We have 30 surplus used Waverider 900 MHz EUMs and power supplies for sale. These units were all fully functional when removed from service. Guaranteed no DOA.. Asking $100 each or best offer. We will split these up if you do not want all 30 of them. Contact m...@mvn.net offlist to arrange for purchase. We will accept VISA or Paypal. Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider auction ending in 20 minutes
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[WISPA] waverider power supplies
Im looking for some power supplies for WR eum 3003 and 3004. If you know where I can find some hit me offlist. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider
So does anyone have the latest scoop on WaveRider? Stability, product pipeline etc. It seems like most of the old names/faces are gone. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider
What do you want to know? Stability and software is excellent, great polling mechanism. 2mb Ethernet through put. I have seen them maintain a connection (in a clean rf environment) down to about -98db 10db below spec. Erik chris cooper wrote: So does anyone have the latest scoop on WaveRider? Stability, product pipeline etc. It seems like most of the old names/faces are gone. Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Waverider Specs
We are testing a new WR cell. The target rssi generated by the design guide and real field tests show 10-12 db performance delta. Anyone care to weigh in on this? Is this reality- the difference between vendor spec and real world tests or should we look deeper for a problem? We've already worked through most of the cabling and the grounds. That brings up a 2nd question- If an antenna is grounded to a tower, the cabling grounded separately prior to building penetration and the equipment grounded to house power - does this set up a potential between the 3 different grounding sources? We pulled the cable ground on our last new cell and the cell performance jumped noticeably. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] waverider ccu
hello anyone running waverider 900 mhz understand what packets nomatch means.about a week ago our ccu started showing about 85% packets nomatch.contacted waverider and they said it meant someone was broadcasting on the same frequency we were using and recomended we remove our filter and change to 918.4 mhz from 911.6 mhz.We did that and it solved the problem till today.now the CCU is showing 0 no matches but all the EUMs are showing about 85% packet nomatches.does anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem? Any input would be appreciated we are stumped as to why all eums can be hearing these nomatch packets but not the ccu? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
Canopy 900 has close to 4 Mb of aggregate *REAL* thoughput now in 2x mode -Charles --- WISPNOG Park City, UT http://www.wispnog.com August 15-17, 2005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput I do not think you will find any 900 Mhz 2M X 2M solutions out there that will scale well. I use Waverider and it works really well for my service. I offer two plans. 768K and 256K up and down. I can get about 70 to 100 clients per sector with Waverider running this way. I think the polling MAC in Waverider keeps the max speed per client at about 1.5 meg up and down. If I have someone needing 2M or more I sell them a connection to my Trango AP. Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Anyone with real-world experience with them? I sell 2M X 2M connections... will WR gear keep up with this, and what is the maximum available real throughput? Not radio rates, but real-world throughput? North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! --- - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
I take it from this post regarding Canopy that the other systems you tested were not as much speed? Waverider has more aggregate throughput than what each client individually will get because of polling. So maybe three Waverider clients running at full speed could be the same as Canopy aggregate? I just don't know. I do believe that Waverider aggregate max is about 3 meg per sector. If you want to compare then let us see what you have seen for all the systems you have tested. Let's compare apples to apples. Canopy allows one single client to use full aggregate speed while Waverider does not as far as I know. I believe this is a matter of design choice and not a limitation in Waverider. I could be wrong but I am certain I was told this by Waverider representatives in the past. I welcome your input. I do not know what other systems use for site survey tools but Waverider has an incredible spectrum analyzer tool which develops a spectrum scan readout of the entire 900 Mhz band. This is a full color chart in PDF format created in the CCU itself. It works fantastic and helps identify any possible interference right away. I am very satisfied with the Waverider systems we have in place. We currently are running 4 towers of Waverider. Two of them have omni's. One has two sectors and another has three sectors. We have about 230 Waverider customers online right now. They are the most reliable wireless systems we have online. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Canopy 900 has close to 4 Mb of aggregate *REAL* thoughput now in 2x mode -Charles --- WISPNOG Park City, UT http://www.wispnog.com August 15-17, 2005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput I do not think you will find any 900 Mhz 2M X 2M solutions out there that will scale well. I use Waverider and it works really well for my service. I offer two plans. 768K and 256K up and down. I can get about 70 to 100 clients per sector with Waverider running this way. I think the polling MAC in Waverider keeps the max speed per client at about 1.5 meg up and down. If I have someone needing 2M or more I sell them a connection to my Trango AP. Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Anyone with real-world experience with them? I sell 2M X 2M connections... will WR gear keep up with this, and what is the maximum available real throughput? Not radio rates, but real-world throughput? North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! --- - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
Canopy claimed long and loud about real aggregate throughput. However, last February Moto put out an application note that discloses real Canopy aggregate throughput will be significantly less with short packet traffic, while claiming that real internet traffic would never be short enough to be of concern. I did an informal survey of packet length distributions from 4 different wisp systems that volunteered and found that average packet lengths were short enough to cause significant Canopy capacity loss ... according to Canopy's own application note, real aggregate throughput may be as low as only 1/10th of the advertised aggregate throughput. No clarification has ever been offered to help project actual throughput given your average packet length traffic profile, but I'd be skeptical of real Canopy aggregate throughputs as real traffic seems skewed towards short packet lengths (more-so with VPN VoIP traffic). All systems may also have real-traffic capacity loses, but I don't believe the 802.11 physical systems will lose capacity due to the fixed slot sizes as Canopy employs (I think all the 802.11 systems utilize variable length transmissions over-the-air). According to the Moto application note, short packet length suffers a significant capacity loss to Canopy due to their fixed length slots over-the-air. I'm not familiar with Waverider's physical to offer any comparison. Can anyone? Rich - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput I take it from this post regarding Canopy that the other systems you tested were not as much speed? Waverider has more aggregate throughput than what each client individually will get because of polling. So maybe three Waverider clients running at full speed could be the same as Canopy aggregate? I just don't know. I do believe that Waverider aggregate max is about 3 meg per sector. If you want to compare then let us see what you have seen for all the systems you have tested. Let's compare apples to apples. Canopy allows one single client to use full aggregate speed while Waverider does not as far as I know. I believe this is a matter of design choice and not a limitation in Waverider. I could be wrong but I am certain I was told this by Waverider representatives in the past. I welcome your input. I do not know what other systems use for site survey tools but Waverider has an incredible spectrum analyzer tool which develops a spectrum scan readout of the entire 900 Mhz band. This is a full color chart in PDF format created in the CCU itself. It works fantastic and helps identify any possible interference right away. I am very satisfied with the Waverider systems we have in place. We currently are running 4 towers of Waverider. Two of them have omni's. One has two sectors and another has three sectors. We have about 230 Waverider customers online right now. They are the most reliable wireless systems we have online. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Canopy 900 has close to 4 Mb of aggregate *REAL* thoughput now in 2x mode -Charles --- WISPNOG Park City, UT http://www.wispnog.com August 15-17, 2005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput I do not think you will find any 900 Mhz 2M X 2M solutions out there that will scale well. I use Waverider and it works really well for my service. I offer two plans. 768K and 256K up and down. I can get about 70 to 100 clients per sector with Waverider running this way. I think the polling MAC in Waverider keeps the max speed per client at about 1.5 meg up and down. If I have someone needing 2M or more I sell them a connection to my Trango AP. Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Anyone with real-world experience with them? I sell 2M X 2M connections... will WR gear keep up with this, and what is the maximum available real throughput? Not radio rates, but real-world throughput? North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! --- - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
I take it from this post regarding Canopy that the other systems you tested were not as much speed? Yes If you want to compare then let us see what you have seen for all the systems you have tested. Let's compare apples to apples. We have already done that -Charles -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
Please keep private show only emails off list unless you have data to share with the group. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Hi Dylan, We are working on gathering all the presentations Trust me, with our testing, there is A LOT of behind the scenes wrangling (including bitching/threats from losing manufacturers) that goes on -Charles --- WISPNOG Park City, UT http://www.wispnog.com http://www.wispnog.com/ August 15-17, 2005 -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dylan Oliver *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:31 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput Regarding which, when will the reports on 900 MHz et al be released to attendees of the conference? Wondering what to do with my waverider given new dedication to Moto... ooh, I think I'll coin a new term: Moto Ho -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
