Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-12 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Peter, I'd like to see the powerpoints! Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 608-588-8010 PO Box 668 Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermai

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Peter R.
wispa wrote: The RIGHT way this is to be done, is for the FCC to "un" rule we're telecommunications providers, the same for VOIP and so on, and let the DOJ and FBI go back to Congress, who re-writes the rules, and supplies the funds to implement whatever it is they really want, and complies wi

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi > For about 20% of my users, that is all I can do packets from/to my > MESH based towers I can't break down to indi

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Blair Davis
t;WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:24:12 -0800, Jack Unger wrote Mark and Butch, I want to thank both of you. I feared that the quality and tone of this discussion was taking a negat

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
e - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi > On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:24:12 -0800, Jack Unger wrote > > Mark and Butch, > > > > I want to thank b

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread wispa
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:24:12 -0800, Jack Unger wrote > Mark and Butch, > > I want to thank both of you. > > I feared that the quality and tone of this discussion was taking a > negative turn but I WAS WRONG. > > I've found your discussion of the CALEA issue and the ramifications > to the WISP

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Jack Unger
Mark and Butch, I want to thank both of you. I feared that the quality and tone of this discussion was taking a negative turn but I WAS WRONG. I've found your discussion of the CALEA issue and the ramifications to the WISP industry to be interesting, informative and valuable. I'd like to co

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread wispa
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:22:57 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, wispa wrote: > > >While you're there... or, perhaps on your way there, please > >consider the fact that you and whoever is meeting there are > >deciding how every other WISP will structure his network and what > >t

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi Great solution Marty. Really. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dough

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-08 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, wispa wrote: While you're there... or, perhaps on your way there, please consider the fact that you and whoever is meeting there are deciding how every other WISP will structure his network and what they will be forced to spend or do. You will...or will not... set a stand

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:16:38 -0600, Dave Brenton wrote > Folks, > > I do not want to rant or in anyway fan flames here, > > but I Do want to ask the question: > > What are the "Big Kids" doing about CALEA and the > > talk seeping out, about data monitoring / logging from DOJ? > > Ea

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Brenton
Folks, I do not want to rant or in anyway fan flames here, but I Do want to ask the question: What are the "Big Kids" doing about CALEA and the talk seeping out, about data monitoring / logging from DOJ? Earthlink, AOL (and it's clones), MSN, AT&T? Are those guys on the s

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
rnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 > > Founding Member of WISPA-Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM To: > 'WISPA General

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Harnish
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi Thank you Marlon! I can now delete my saved response that I had composed earlier and was contemplating sending. Anyone can respond bett

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Mac Dearman
that come to mind real fast) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi Sigh. First, the mission

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Fourth, certainly I know I'm not speaking for all WISPs. I'm speaking for WISPA. YOU get to choose whether or not you wish to agree. You can always file a statement saying you don't agree and why. The FCC loves to hear from us. Last I knew the IEEE never asked for my opinion on a standard th

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
H, interesting idea! I believe there is something not too far from that on my phone bills already. marlon How about all of the other things you will have to do in order to operate your business- especially taxes and insurance. Did you put them into your business plan? If so, then would

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:44:56 +, Ron Wallace wrote > I'm with you Marlon. I support your position. > However, if I am all the support you have you better use a cane. > Ron Wallace I dunno if you've met Marlon, but he's got pretty decent legs of his own... he'll be alright :) --

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:36:20 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote > Sigh. > > First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the > same page about motivations: Wireless Internet Service Providers > Association is dedicated to promoting and improving the WISP industry. >

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Patrick Leary
Great solution Marty. Really. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi ..."How about we pass

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Patrick Leary
K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi Sigh. First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the same page about motivations: Wireless Internet Service Providers Associa

RE: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marty Dougherty
inal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wispa Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:35:29 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote > Hi All, > > We ha

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Peter R.
deal with small businesses. Regards, Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. - Original Message - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi I know several sites where I can reach

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
ral List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi > >Sigh. > >First, the mission statement for WISPA, just so's we're all on the same page >about motivations: >Wireless Internet Service Providers Association is dedicated to promoting >and improving t

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "wi

Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread wispa
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:35:29 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote > Hi All, > > We have a meeting set up for the 22nd in Va. I have 4 people set > to go to it at this time but I'd like a 5th. I'm after a network > admin type. Anyone have the time and recourses available? Or if > I m

[WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi

2007-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, We have a meeting set up for the 22nd in Va. I have 4 people set to go to it at this time but I'd like a 5th. I'm after a network admin type. Anyone have the time and recourses available? Or if I missed your offer earlier, please let me know. I have to get info to the FBI ASAP so