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Harold,
One more question for you on your APs. I see they support WPA, WPA2 TKIP
and AES as
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One reason the non certified manufacturers are not certifying their
equipment is because of the changes that take place in such short time
periods.
To certify a system, the radio card, the antenna AND "the board&quo
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One reason the non certified manufacturers are not certifying their
equipment is because of the changes that tak
r our horn tooted. :-)
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Hi Tom, I remember our nice little seafood feast afterward too (is George on
the WISPA list also?). As I recall,
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Patrick,
Man, you coughed those URLs up pretty fast. Thanks
for your participation in this list
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> I was in the room where Marlon pressed them on this point hard and they
> would not bend.
http://www.rapiddsl.net/latest_news/FccVisitOct2004.ht
One reason the non certified manufacturers are not certifying their
equipment is because of the changes that take place in such short time
periods.
To certify a system, the radio card, the antenna AND "the board" which
drives the card has to be certified together as a complete system.
The ro
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Matt,
I agree with John's suggestion th
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:02 PM
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No need to push manufactures when you can just not buy their
Jack Unger wrote:
First, our "small group" can certainly influence manufacturers. The
voice of an industry trade organization (which is what we are) carries
a lot of weight if we simply decide to use that voice to speak out.
Only if we say nothing, will our voice carry no weight. In that case,
oduct don't
have to worry about certification and compliance issues.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
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Matt,
My response to your questions are inline, below.
jack
Matt Liotta wrote:
Jack Unger wrote:
You ask - "Why would we need to push manufacturers when a WISP could
just NOT buy a non-certified product"? Because half of the WISPs out
there don't even realize that certification is require
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Patrick,
From my perspective
Jack Unger wrote:
You ask - "Why would we need to push manufacturers when a WISP could
just NOT buy a non-certified product"? Because half of the WISPs out
there don't even realize that certification is required by law. WISPA
can perform a valuable public service by simply providing knowledge
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That's easy. From the FCC site:
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearchResult.cfm
And here is the search location:
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearc
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Patrick,
From my perspective, Alvarion HAS set a pretty high standard in
Matt,
I agree with John's suggestion that we need to push manufacturers to
certify. We could request that manufacturers indicate the certification
status of their equipment on their websites, their spec sheets, and
their advertising material. We could even create the artwork and make
availabl
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This sounds like a good idea. I am sure we could add a link to a listing
of certification labs. We also need to push
All,
$0.02: A while back there was a discussion (The FCC even included
it in the latest dialog about part 15, I think) about the possibility of
a person becoming certified to work with unlicensed equipment. If this
afforded a person a real advantage (say being able to mix and match
compo
No need to push manufactures when you can just not buy their product.
Why would you want to take the business risk of not buying a certified
radio? I mean Trango sells radios plenty cheap and they're certified.
Canopy is also cheap and also certified.
-Matt
John Scrivner wrote:
This sounds li
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This sounds like a good idea. I am sure we could add a link to a listing
of certification labs. We also need to push manufacturers to certify.
Without
This sounds like a good idea. I am sure we could add a link to a listing
of certification labs. We also need to push manufacturers to certify.
Without some pressure from us the certification will just look like more
cost with little to gain to manufacturers. Pressure from customers would
make t
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Patrick,
Not exactly. What you said is mostly true, and to the letter of the ori
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Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:29 PM
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John is 100% accurate. Also, with respect to using your own antenna, even
with that new relaxation of the rules, it ONLY applies to manufacturers,
NOT
operators. Wh
John,
Should WISPA consider publishing on our website a list of certification
labs? It seems that our industry needs someone to step up and take on a
leadership role and WISPA seems (to me anyway) to be the perfect
organization to perform this role.
We could start by simply polling our list
this topic.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From:
chris
cooper
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Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:05
PM
Subject: [WISPA] roll your own
radios..
It sounds
] roll your own radios..
The rules state that any radio / antenna combination has to either be a
certified system or that a substitute antenna used would have to meet
the same specs as one used for certification in a system. Many think
that this means "anything goes". The truth is that
The rules state that any radio / antenna combination has to either be a
certified system or that a substitute antenna used would have to meet
the same specs as one used for certification in a system. Many think
that this means "anything goes". The truth is that there are almost
certainly a good
It sounds like several of you here build your own radios and
use off the shelf antennas. So if I buy a board, cards and an antenna what are
my obligations to FCC as far as having a certified system in production?
Thanks for the education
Chris
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