Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Well hell Gino Where are you buying? i want a piece of that too. Original message >Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:23:49 -0700 >From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >To: WISPA General List > >great prices! > >G.Villarini wrote: > >>$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for >>around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 >> >>Gino A. Villarini, >>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>www.aeronetpr.com >>787.767.7466 >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of A. Huppenthal >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >> >>we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. >>never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. >>some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging >>even for 900 mhz. >> >>$295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a >>900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the >>learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are >>much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same >>gain, but that's obvious. >> >>Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone >>alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports >>vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported >>by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at >>least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a >>time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, >>no crap-outs... >> >>Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. >> >>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >>>I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices >>>is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". >>> >>>A. Huppenthal wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I >>>>want to research on behalf of the list. >>>> >>>>google: >>>>motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. >>>> >>>>I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. >>>> >>>>I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. >>>> >>>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>$26,250 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k >>>>> >>>>>Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can >>>>>avoid at all costs. >>>>> >>>>>The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. >>>>>HOLY CRAP! >>>>> >>>>>Unless I am reading something wrong... >>>>> >>>>>http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>A. Huppenthal wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. >>>>>>However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - >>>>>>I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your >>>>>>ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power >>>>>>and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. >>>>>> >>>>>>Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than >>>>>>Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity >>>>>>of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is >>>>>>a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained >>>>>>i
RE: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Canopy 900 have a n male connector on a 12 inch pigtail ... wepeee!!! Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices Not sure what a Canopy 900 su looks like but a Trango 900 SU needs something to to adapt up to a N connector and the Yagis I use don't have any cable attached to them. George G.Villarini wrote: > Huh? > > They are included ... > > Gino A. Villarini, > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.aeronetpr.com > 787.767.7466 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of George > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices > > Plus the piggy or cable and connectors. > > George > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Not sure what a Canopy 900 su looks like but a Trango 900 SU needs something to to adapt up to a N connector and the Yagis I use don't have any cable attached to them. George G.Villarini wrote: Huh? They are included ... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices Plus the piggy or cable and connectors. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Huh? They are included ... Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices Plus the piggy or cable and connectors. George G.Villarini wrote: > $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for > around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 > > Gino A. Villarini, > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.aeronetpr.com > 787.767.7466 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of A. Huppenthal > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices > > we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. > never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. > some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging > even for 900 mhz. > > $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a > 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the > learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are > much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same > gain, but that's obvious. > > Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone > alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports > vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported > by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at > least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a > time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, > no crap-outs... > > Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > >>I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices >>is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". >> >>A. Huppenthal wrote: >> >> >>>I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I >>>want to research on behalf of the list. >>> >>>google: >>>motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. >>> >>>I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. >>> >>>I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. >>> >>>Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >>> >>> >>>>432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber ModulesBP9000SM-50 > > >>>>$26,250 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k >>>> >>>>Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can >>>>avoid at all costs. >>>> >>>>The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. >>>>HOLY CRAP! >>>> >>>>Unless I am reading something wrong... >>>> >>>>http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>A. Huppenthal wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. >>>>>However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - >>>>>I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your >>>>>ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power >>>>>and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. >>>>> >>>>>Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than >>>>>Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity >>>>>of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is >>>>>a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained >>>>>in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs >>>>>at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at >>>>>ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really >>>>>needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a >>>>>WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rul
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Plus the piggy or cable and connectors. George G.Villarini wrote: $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz. $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same gain, but that's obvious. Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, no crap-outs... Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". A. Huppenthal wrote: I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber ModulesBP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber M
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
great prices! G.Villarini wrote: $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz. $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same gain, but that's obvious. Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, no crap-outs... Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". A. Huppenthal wrote: I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber ModulesBP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber M
RE: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz. $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same gain, but that's obvious. Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, no crap-outs... Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices > is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". > > A. Huppenthal wrote: > >> I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I >> want to research on behalf of the list. >> >> google: >> motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. >> >> I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. >> >> I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. >> >> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >>> 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber ModulesBP9000SM-50 >>> $26,250 >>> >>> >>> >>> Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k >>> >>> Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can >>> avoid at all costs. >>> >>> The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. >>> HOLY CRAP! >>> >>> Unless I am reading something wrong... >>> >>> http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f >>> >>> >>> >>> A. Huppenthal wrote: >>> >>>> I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. >>>> However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - >>>> I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your >>>> ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power >>>> and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. >>>> >>>> Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than >>>> Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity >>>> of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is >>>> a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained >>>> in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs >>>> at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at >>>> ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really >>>> needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a >>>> WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules >>>> (FCC and others through a louder voice). >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and >>>> figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) >>>> >>>> Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. >>>> Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. >>>> >>>> Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 432679 900 Mhz Access Point9000AP $1,895 >>>> 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES9001AP $2,395 >>>> 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) >>>> 9000APC$1,855
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Yes, I agree with you. I'd be a great deal @ $295. On the other hand, me personally, I don't need any 900 mhz at the moment. When we open our PNW offices we will of course. :-) next month (Jan 2005) Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Yes, I believe I was looking at all 900 products. If a 100 pack is 295, a 500 pack (buying group) might just be affordable for ma and pa WISP. A. Huppenthal wrote: check if you are comparing apples to apples. 900 Mhz units are much more expensive. Have fun, whatever you decide. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized TK10028 $30,000 Peter R. wrote: Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world. *Right Brain* Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. Regards, Peter 4isps.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - R
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz. $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same gain, but that's obvious. Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, no crap-outs... Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". A. Huppenthal wrote: I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized TK10028 $30,000 Peter R. wrote: Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Yes, I believe I was looking at all 900 products. If a 100 pack is 295, a 500 pack (buying group) might just be affordable for ma and pa WISP. A. Huppenthal wrote: check if you are comparing apples to apples. 900 Mhz units are much more expensive. Have fun, whatever you decide. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own". A. Huppenthal wrote: I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
check if you are comparing apples to apples. 900 Mhz units are much more expensive. Have fun, whatever you decide. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized TK10028 $30,000 Peter R. wrote: Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get good stuff from the FCC and WISPs ru
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized TK10028 $30,000 Peter R. wrote: Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reas
Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP! Unless I am reading something wrong... http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f A. Huppenthal wrote: I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price. Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice). I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-) Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead. Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier. 432679 900 Mhz Access Point 9000AP $1,895 427612 900 Mhz Access Point AES 9001AP $2,395 498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935 435698 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna AN900 $100 446693 Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-50 $4,500 413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000 483655 900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized TK10010 $3,000 495685 900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized TK10028 $30,000 Peter R. wrote: Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world. *Right Brain* Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. Regards, Peter 4isps.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/
