Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Wed Aug 26 2015 13:02:49 CDT, Hunter Fuller hf0...@uah.edu wrote: Of course I can't speak for everyone, and I don't know that I would lay out an SLA saying wireless will be up 99.999% of the time or anything, but it just doesn't seem as fragile as one might think initially. The next

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Frank Sweetser
If you're going to be really measuring yourself against an SLA, the only sane way I can see would be to do so with a metrics tool like 7Signals, Streetwise, or NetBeez. This would also force you to specify exactly *where* you're trying to offer a given SLA, allowing you to focus on critical

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Hunter Fuller
in residential areas, I could see potential problems with students' APs overrunning the institution's APs. But I haven't seen that level of disruption from the occasional rogue in an academic or administrative area. If we spec a room for putting 50 students in it, I feel pretty confident that we

RE: WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
A large cost of a wired connection is the actual switch port. When we reduced the wired connections in our dorms a few years ago, we pulled out $1 million worth of switches which have been redeployed elsewhere.   Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure Media Solutions   (434)

RE: WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
How do you plan on imaging those machines? I assume they are Windows? I have not found a commercially supported solution for this.   Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure Media Solutions   (434) 592-4229   LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 -Original

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Thomas Carter
I do not have the same confidence in wireless as I do wired. There is no control over the airwaves like there is over physical cabling, and some interference cannot be dealt with (like visitor's mobile hotspots). Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564

RE: WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
The other piece to consider here is the life-cycle of an AP against the life-cycle of a switched port. In most cases, an AP will be replaced at around the 5 year mark, mostly to advance to newer technology, but also because of more aggressive EOL on the vendor side. Contrast this with a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Turner, Ryan H
Exactly. As much as we try, wireless cannot be promised or guaranteed the same level of service as wired. But as we've seen, people are often just as happy with a convenient service that works well 80% of the time, as an inconvenient (wired) service that works without issue almost 100% of the

RE: WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Cunningham
In some locations where there are many offices concentrated we think we can eliminate at least 30% of our switch stack ports which means in a few years instead of needing to replace 10 switches I only need to replace 7. Saving about $10,000 which would pay for additional access points if they

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Chuck Enfield
You're point is well taken, but the logic is a little flawed. You're examining some of the factors which affect the marginal cost of providing a single connection. The proper thing to examine is the total cost of providing and supporting the two networks at different scales. Sometimes the two

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread John York
We tried putting classroom computers on wireless, but ran into problems with waking computers. Our patch management procedures rely heavily on waking computers during a maintenance period at night, and we couldn't find a way to do that. For some, we went to wakeup times into BIOS. We had

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi Service Level Agreement

2015-08-26 Thread Patrick Mauretti
While wireless classrooms may experience growing pains at the present time, I do not see how they won't progress as time marches on, as is the case with all computing. As is the case with decisions regarding other technical challenges, there will be a place for wired and a place for wireless.