[WSG] OT: Intranet Search utility

2004-06-14 Thread Amit Karmakar
Howdy People, I am looking for a (preferably free) software to be able to do searches on an Intranet site. The Intranet is hosted on a local Unix Server. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com * The

RE: [WSG] OT: Intranet Search utility [ANSWER TO SENDER ONLY PLEASE]

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Please answer this off list as it has nothing to do with Web Standards. P I am looking for a (preferably free) software to be able to do searches on an Intranet site. The Intranet is hosted on a local Unix Server. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Amit Karmakar

[WSG] re: using wildcard * in css

2004-06-14 Thread Neerav
Hi I was trying to think of a way to set the same margin for all elements inside my content div at http://www.algae.info/ and decided to try .content * { margin-left: 15px; } Just for the heck of it. To my surprise, this worked in Firefox 0.8, IE6, and Opera 7.23 So have I accidentally

Re: [WSG] OT: Intranet Search utility

2004-06-14 Thread Mark Dale
Perlfect - www.perlfect.com - does a good job and is free. Cheers Mark Dale On 14/6/04 4:31 PM, Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy People, I am looking for a (preferably free) software to be able to do searches on an Intranet site. The Intranet is hosted on a local Unix Server.

[WSG] Minimizing Flickering CSS Background Images in IE6

2004-06-14 Thread Neerav
Several possible solutions at http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 403 8000 27 http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] re: using wildcard * in css

2004-06-14 Thread Andy Budd
Sorry to dash your hopes, but that's just the Universal Selector http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html#universal-selector Neerav wrote: I was trying to think of a way to set the same margin for all elements inside my content div at http://www.algae.info/ and decided to try .content * {

[WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Marc Greenstock
A friend of mine sent me this link; http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx He loves to play devils advocate so he just refuses to adopt current standards, it's ok though cause he's the competition. Happy reading :) * The

RE: [WSG] re: using wildcard * in css

2004-06-14 Thread Bert Doorn
As Andy said, it's the universal selector. I'd be careful with it, as the rule will most likely cascade down. Simple example: div class=content pstrongNote:/strong be careful with the universal selector!/p /div You may find that the strong note gets the margin applied twice. It gets worse

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/14/04 3:00 AM Marc Greenstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: A friend of mine sent me this link; http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx He loves to play devils advocate so he just refuses to adopt current standards, it's ok though cause he's the competition. Yeah

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauke
How cute. What good are standards when browsers change so fast by adding new features every month? Or, the needs and demands of the users change with the latest killer app? It appears that your friend has been living in a cave since the browser wars... The rest is the usual well, these big sites

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Michael Kear
The author's an idiot. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Greenstock Sent: Monday, 14 June 2004 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Interesting

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Michael Kear
Ok let me expand on my earlier opinion and give a bit more detail He's a bloody idiot. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Greenstock Sent: Monday,

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/14/04 3:34 AM Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: It appears that your friend has been living in a cave since the browser wars... The rest is the usual well, these big sites are not valid, so why bother drivel. Kept me entertained for all of 17 seconds. Yeah, but you

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:00:45 +1000, Marc Greenstock wrote: http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx Gentlemen, The article in question uses inflammatory language and fails to back up its claims. Might I suggest we retain our professional demeanour and not sink to the author's

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauke
Yeah, but you should s'plain a bit, IMO. If the biggies ignore the standards scenario, what are *we* doing? Ok, let's expand a bit. There are at least two reasons why the biggies are ignoring standards: the speed of change in large organisations (management can often move at the speed of

[WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles

2004-06-14 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I'm attempting to find out what support browsers on mobile devices such as PDA's and phones have for the handheld media type. Has anyone got any of experience of this? I've supplied a bit of background info here: http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/55.php And if anyone with a web-ready PDA

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Ian Fenn
Hi Rick, If the biggies ignore the standards scenario, what are *we* doing? I suspect the problem with the biggies is normally that they have grown so big that making significant changes in the name of web standards isn't as big a priority as other business aims, such as increasing sales, etc.

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Mike Foskett
There is a fair point in there. We need people to bend, stretch and break standards in order to push out the boundaries of the technologies we use. Who would be completely happy with the Standards set in 1992? Didn't the late nineties Browser wars come up with non-standard stuff that's now

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread dan
I think any of us that have worked in big companies know just how slowly things move in terms of technology. Im working on a redesign of a fairly high profile site now and, although the company Im working for and the client are both reasonably knowledgable about standards and realise there

RE: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles

2004-06-14 Thread Mike Foskett
Patrick, I have an interest in this too. I coded a site (valid XHTML v1.0 strict) at the weekend that works in IE from v3+ and Netscape from v2+. It should have been fine on a PDA but it crashed the browser (Internet Explorer). And that's before I add any J/S functionality. Today I've

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauke
Who would be completely happy with the Standards set in 1992? Didn't the late nineties Browser wars come up with non-standard stuff that's now included in the standard. Yes, but: before becoming part of the standard, most of these innovations were extended, expanded, generalised and made

[WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-14 Thread Justin French
Hi all, I've got a client who wants a scrollable area of text within a web page layout. My instant reaction was to use overflow: auto; or an iframe to solve the problem, but he doesn't like the visual appearance of the GUI-native scroll bars, and I'm having a few problems with browser

Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles

2004-06-14 Thread Chris Stratford
I have a NEC e616 3Mobile. I am in the process of loading that page for you... But it seems that its not working at the moment... :) hehehe Ahhh actually its working ... Waiting... Damn thsi cruddy 3 reception... ... ... ok reception lost again.. hold on a second... moving the fone

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Then again, according to the article (rant): changing standards = OXYMORON That's why there are different versions and subversions. 3.2, 4.0 and 4.01 are all different beasts. They don't change. If you're an idiot that doesn't think a doctype is required because you don't understand it, then

Re: [WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-14 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Monday, June 14, 2004, at 11:29 PM, Justin French wrote: So, I'd like to experiment with a javascript/css based solution which (preferably) is 100% accessible, based on a scroll box with simple up and down arrows, etc. Justin, take a look at the solution I came up with for two sites last

[WSG] Request check - redesign to accessibility standards

2004-06-14 Thread John Penlington
Hi all, I'm in the process of rebuilding a site to comply with Australian legal requirements for accessibility. After much hard work, I've got a reconstructed Home Page working in Mozilla Firefox 0.8, IE 6 and Opera 7.23 on Win XP Pro - except that the unordered list in the main text area only

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Michael Kear
I guess my characterisation of this author didn't meet with universal approval. Fair enough Lea, but I don't take any of it back. Some thoughts about what he's written: IF Microsoft introduced the most fantastic, whiz-bang, easy-to-use new feature in the next version of IE, that wouldn't be

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Chris Keane
Has anyone else seen any changes in larger organisations? Yep, we do work for some medium-to-large companies and nonprofits in the US (Clairol, Marriott, Disney), and while individual client interest in standards varies (usually dependent on clients' general technical awareness, IMO), we do get

Re: [WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-14 Thread Tim Lucas
Justin French spoke the following wise words on 14/06/2004 11:29 PM EST: So, I'd like to experiment with a javascript/css based solution which (preferably) is 100% accessible, based on a scroll box with simple up and down arrows, etc. Travis Beckham's divscroller works a treat:

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Chatham, Will
Has anyone else seen any changes in larger organisations? I was hired by Ingles Markets (15,000 employee grocer chain) back in Fenruary, and was lucky enough to have free range over how to best upgrade our web site. Naturally, I went with a standards-based solution. No one here would know the

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El lun, 14-06-2004 a las 12:00, Marc Greenstock escribió: A friend of mine sent me this link; http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_05.aspx He loves to play devils advocate so he just refuses to adopt current standards, it's ok though cause he's the competition. Happy reading

RE: [WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-14 Thread Mike Foskett
Erm, Not very accessible. No keyboard access I could figure out. Would it not be better to use inline frames and apply IE only CSS to the scrollbars? mike 2k:)2 -Original Message- From: Tim Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2004 16:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Marie
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even comment - it's pretty obvious to this newbie to css standards, he's trolling - he got you ~ I think enough has been said about his dubious commentaries ~ let it go - please Marie About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even comment - it's pretty obvious to this newbie to css standards, he's trolling - he got you ~ I think enough has been said about his dubious commentaries ~ let it go - please Marie About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Mordechai Peller
Marie wrote: I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously enough to even comment I can. I'm guessing that the reason so many have commented is that they are so blown away by the nonsensical idiocy put to HTML. Often in situations, such as this one, where one is overwhelmed by the conflict

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Marc Greenstock
Hahaha, I knew this would ruffle a few feathers. Marc. - Original Message - From: Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Interesting reading Marie wrote: I can't believe y'all are taking this guy seriously

Re: [WSG] Request check - redesign to accessibility standards

2004-06-14 Thread Hugh Todd
John, You're going well. I'm in the Blue Mountains and belong to a bushcare group, so it's great to see you doing this. Combines two of my passions! I've posted your page (minus pictures) in which I've made quite a number of changes to your code (on the way to finding out what was going on

Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles

2004-06-14 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Chris Stratford wrote: So its incorrectly loading the media for SCREEN... and wont load CSS from one method either... the @import seems not to work... This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS properly yet, and many of those who do don't create

[WSG] OT: Strict Doctype New Window Links Javascript With Multiple REL Values

2004-06-14 Thread Mike Rainey
To anyone interested: I have written a tutorial that expands on Kevin Yank's (http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1041) javascript from his article. It allows for the use of the rel= attribute of the anchor tag to have the value external to open links in new windows or internal to open links in

[WSG] re: using wildcard * in css (now IE vertical spacing between li's)

2004-06-14 Thread Neerav
Tim You're right, the different colouring was there just for separation. I like your idea of using spacing to differentiate groups of links and have applied it at http://www.algae.info/ Works fine in Firefox 0.8/Mozilla , Opera 7.23, and Safari 1.2 Unfortunately IE wont come to the party, it

[WSG] OT: Strict Doctype New Window Links Javascript With Multiple REL Values

2004-06-14 Thread Mike Rainey
To anyone interested: I have written a tutorial that expands on Kevin Yank's (http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1041) javascript from his article. It allows for the use of the rel= attribute of the anchor tag to have the value external to open links in new windows or internal to open links in

Re: [WSG] OT: Strict Doctype New Window Links Javascript With Multiple REL Values

2004-06-14 Thread Chris Stratford
If you like, you can use the DTD I have modified to allow XHTML 1.0 to utilise the TARGET attribute. !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.01 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; I named it XHTML 1.01 Strict... the .01 is just for the tartget attribute. :) If you are interested that is.

Re: [WSG] re: using wildcard * in css (now IE vertical spacing between li's)

2004-06-14 Thread Tim Lucas
I'll check it out for you when I get home later this evening. -- tim Quoting Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tim You're right, the different colouring was there just for separation. I like your idea of using spacing to differentiate groups of links and have applied it at http://www.algae.info/

[WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-14 Thread Chris
Hi, I the process of a design that begs overflow: auto; what is the opinion on this wonderful alternative to frames? Computers need more Africa in them. -Brian Eno Chris

Re: [WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-14 Thread Justin French
On 15/06/2004, at 1:23 AM, Tim Lucas wrote: Justin French spoke the following wise words on 14/06/2004 11:29 PM EST: So, I'd like to experiment with a javascript/css based solution which (preferably) is 100% accessible, based on a scroll box with simple up and down arrows, etc. Travis Beckham's