[WSG] List item spacing problem

2005-01-18 Thread Marwan Farha
Hi all, I'm having a problem with a list based menu, using a the sons of suckerfish method. http://www.handinhandnursery.com/index.htm In IE6 the spacing between the subNav list items is perfect but in Firefox they become all squashed up against each other, and i can't seem to find the problem.

Re: [WSG] List item spacing problem

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:49:54 +0400, Marwan Farha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In IE6 the spacing between the subNav list items is perfect but in Firefox they become all squashed up against each other, and i can't seem to find the problem. I'd say that in Firefox list is as it should be, and IE6

[WSG] suckerfish and ie 5.2 mac

2005-01-18 Thread Peter Costello
Hi, ie 5.2 mac seems to be ignoring the styles for my menu. I've had a quick look on google and have found some other issues but not what I need. My Nav should be displaying inline but isn't in ie 5.2 mac? Is this a common issue? the site validates as xhtml 1 transitional and is at:

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Rob Mientjes
IE has some sort of auto-clearing, so yeah, it does that. I'm not sure about the fix though. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:55:23 +0800, Lyn Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all www.westernwebdesign.com.au/host.html Have a floated box that I want to sit inside and overhang another box. This

Re: [WSG] Your opinions about my weblog's new layout

2005-01-18 Thread Anthony Timberlake
Nice. I like how it looks on the screen. Works out nice :) On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:45:21 -0200, Bruno Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: I tried taking a look at your old (current) layout, but something crashes Safari every time. Not sure what causes it. HTH /Roger Hello,

Re: [WSG] A question of semantics

2005-01-18 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Hi gang! You all must have heard my head banging over the last couple of days! The semantic form that I got from Patrick works great when it's got room, the problem is, I don't have that much room. This is a small 200px wide quick search form that needs a bit of padding. If you add divs to the

[WSG] stretch them columns

2005-01-18 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I know this has been covered, but I can't remember where to look. I just put together a quick, and I do mean quick, sample site, http://www.tdrake.net/greens to test a design concept. I want the two content bars to stick to the outside edges and the empty space between to expand and

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Patterson wrote: www.westernwebdesign.com.au/host.html Have a floated box that I want to sit inside and overhang another box. This works fine in FF and Opera but IE is clearing the normal box and putting it underneath the floated box. How do I make this work in IE? You can make it work -

RE: [WSG] stretch them columns

2005-01-18 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:56 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] stretch them columns Hi All I know this has been covered, but I can't remember where to look. I just put

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-18 Thread Charlie Barr
How does one go about doing this? Mordechai Peller has created a disturbance in the Force. I felt its presence on 1/6/2005 7:13 PM. Its substance was as follows: Actually, with the help of filters, IE can render PNGs properly. With that in mind, you can use JavaScript in the header to set a

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-18 Thread JohnyB
I'm pushing transparency to IE this way: #logo { background: url('img/logo.png') no-repeat; } * html #logo { background: none; filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='img/logo.png',sizingMethod='scale'); } and it's even better to place all this non-standard crap in

[WSG] Required by Depreciated attributes

2005-01-18 Thread David R
'Lo I'm in a pickle... I've got an ol, and one of the ol's li's contains another ol Like so: ol liHello/li liWorld!/li lih2Sublist/h2 ol liHello/li liAgain/li /li liEnd.../li /ol Thing is, I need the ol li ol element to start at a specified number. The HTML4.01 spec says I can use the

Re: [WSG] A question of semantics

2005-01-18 Thread Terrence Wood
div's have no inherent dimensions and can be enclosed by fieldsets. Terrence Wood. Wayne Godfrey wrote: If you add divs to the input fields, won't that effect the fieldset? Or am I missing something here? I've been avoiding this form thing like the plague, but I've got no choice now...gotta get it

Re: [WSG] Required by Depreciated attributes

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Thing is, I need the ol li ol element to start at a specified number. The HTML4.01 spec says I can use the start= attribute, but that its depreciated... So what replaces the start= attribute in XHTML1.1? I couldn't see anything in CSS about it. Ignore XHTML/1.1. Removal of start is a

Re: [WSG] Popups

2005-01-18 Thread Ben Curtis
For when you ever have links that open in a new window, it helps to have that little image, would this be appropriate: ? a href=# onclick=newwindow() rel=external/a a[onclick=newwindow()] { padding: 10px; background: url(newwindow.png) no-repeat 0 0; } Yes, but... The point of having

[WSG] Unusual Mac IE flow error fixed with comment tags

2005-01-18 Thread Ben Curtis
Over the weekend I ran into a series of rendering errors in Mac IE that amount to certain circumstances that involve elements taken out of the flow (via position:absolute or float:left|right), where the fix involves placing a comment tag in the HTML in a certain place. I've documented it all,

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Lyn Patterson
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You can make it work - partially at least - by removing div class=intro from the unnatural flow in IE/win through style-changes. That is negative back-side margins on floats - for short... :) Thanks, Georg - before I received your reply I kept researching and found that

Re: [WSG] Required by Depreciated attributes

2005-01-18 Thread David R
Kornel Lesinski wrote: Ignore XHTML/1.1. Removal of start is a mistake. Start is dropped in favor of CSS2.1 generated content counters, which are currently supported only by Opera. I've since done some reading into the matter, yes, 'tis a shame... Isn't the XHTML2.0 working group still in session?

[WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Carmelyne Thompson
Maybe I was dreaming but I recall reading somewhere that it is possible to put links on images in the background-image: property. Any direction toward that article will be greatly appreciated. I've looked far and wide, now I just want to know if I was just dreaming that I thought I read this

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Helen . Rysavy
This site seems to do it http://www.qrow.com/home.php div id=banner a href=home.php style=display: block;height: 198px;width:700px/a /div Cheers *** Helen Rysavy Web Designer, Teaching Learning Development Charles Darwin University, Northern

[WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?

2005-01-18 Thread David R
Its a problem plaguing web-standards enthusiasts much like ourselves for years, which is IE's lack of compliance. But consider... what if Microsoft did keep on updating its HTML Parser and Rendering engines? ...Theoretically, wouldn't we be in a worse-off state, with even more non-standard

RE: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Mary Ann
Carmelyne- Not sure if this will help, but the following link refers to links and background-image property: http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_background-image.asp Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carmelyne Thompson Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread David R
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This site seems to do it http://www.qrow.com/home.php div id=banner a href=home.php style=display: block;height: 198px;width:700px/a /div How about this ALA article? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/imagemap/ -- -David R

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Carmelyne Thompson
Thanks. :) -- Carmelyne Thompson Web Architect/Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This site seems to do it http://www.qrow.com/home.php div id=banner a href=home.php style=display: block;height: 198px;width:700px/a /div Cheers *** Helen Rysavy Web

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.qrow.com/home.php div id=banner a href=home.php style=display: block;height: 198px;width:700px/a /div For accessibility reasons (and, heck, common sense) you should never have a completely empty link element. If anything, you could use a span or similar within

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Carmelyne Thompson
Thanks, Mary, I appreciate it. Helen has given me an example of what I exactly had in mind. div id="banner" a href="" style="display: block;height: 198px;width:700px"/a /div :) -- Carmelyne Thompson Web Architect/Developer Mary Ann wrote: Carmelyne- Not sure if this will help, but the

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread JohnyB
Hi Patrick, a span { display: block; text-indent: -999em; } is this safe? (won't it bring some scrollbars somehow etc.?) I recently tried something like .hide { display: block; width: 0; height: 0; overflow: hidden; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-size: 0px; position: absolute; } and

RE: [WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?

2005-01-18 Thread Chris W. Parker
David R mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:56 PM said: Its a problem plaguing web-standards enthusiasts much like ourselves for years, which is IE's lack of compliance. But consider... what if Microsoft did keep on updating its HTML Parser and Rendering engines?

Re: [WSG] required attribute rows not specified problem

2005-01-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Jackie Reid wrote: /Line 156, column 69/: required attribute rows not specified [...] this is the bit its referring to textarea name=question cols=30 id=question/textarea [...] what's it all about? Aeh...specify the rows attribute, as it's required ;) textarea name=question cols=30 rows=5

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Patterson wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You can make it work - partially at least - by removing div class=intro from the unnatural flow in IE/win through style-changes. That is negative back-side margins on floats - for short... :) Thanks, Georg - before I received your reply I kept

Re: [WSG] required attribute rows not specified problem

2005-01-18 Thread Jackie Reid
how embarrassing...sorry must be having a real blonde day!!! Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Jackie Reid wrote: /Line 156, column 69/: required attribute rows not specified [...] this is the bit its referring to textarea name=question cols=30 id=question/textarea [...] what's it all about? Aeh...specify

RE: [WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?

2005-01-18 Thread Chris Blown
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:20, Chris W. Parker wrote: David R mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think so. It'd just be more of the same. Some people would have old browsers that don't work right and other people would have newer browsers that do work right. Which browsers they are makes no

Re: [WSG] stretch them columns

2005-01-18 Thread Rob Unsworth
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Ted Drake wrote: Hi All I know this has been covered, but I can't remember where to look. I just put together a quick, and I do mean quick, sample site, http://www.tdrake.net/greens to test a design concept. I want the two content bars to stick to the outside edges

[WSG] empty named anchors

2005-01-18 Thread Focas, Grant
Empty link elements are not good (as Patrick pointed out)but what about named anchors (destination anchors)? Is there any reason why they should not be empty? I ask this because I am evaluating a site management application called Watchfire WebXM and it warns me of accessibility problems

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread matt andrews
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:08:53 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Patrick, a span { display: block; text-indent: -999em; } is this safe? (won't it bring some scrollbars somehow etc.?) I recently tried something like .hide { display: block; width: 0; height: 0;

RE: [WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?

2005-01-18 Thread Rob Unsworth
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Chris Blown wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:20, Chris W. Parker wrote: David R mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think so. It'd just be more of the same. Some people would have old browsers that don't work right and other people would have newer browsers that do

[WSG] Why does my menu float high in IE?

2005-01-18 Thread Mike Kear
Can anyone see why my menu is floating above the content div in IE6? It's supposed to be touching the white area below it, as it does in Firefox and Netscape, but for a reason I can't find, in IE6 it floats above and resists any attempt I've made to bring it to heel. Obviously it's possible

[WSG] mysterious little movement

2005-01-18 Thread Andreas Boehmer
Hi guys, I am having a problem with my layout and I just can't figure out what it is. I was hoping perhaps one of you can see what I seem to be overlooking. If you look in IE/PC at http://dev.rmittestlab.com/ you will notice that there is a little blue space under the Services heading. Something

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Lyn Patterson
Hi Georg Thank you so much for taking the time to explain everything. I have a much clearer idea now. Yes, that's another way to fix things in IE/win for that layout. IE/win does a much better job if we let it decide width-issues by itself... :) I decided the best way out was just to re-design

Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question

2005-01-18 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:47:53 -0200, Bruno Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you can hide the css from it also using link, providing two media types separated bya a comma and a space: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=style.css media=screen, projection / Sorry for being anal, but

Re: [WSG] background-image:

2005-01-18 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:08:53 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a span { display: block; text-indent: -999em; } is this safe? (won't it bring some scrollbars somehow etc.?) I've never gotten that technique to work properly in Opera. It always either a) makes scrollbars b) displays

Re: [WSG] footer placement

2005-01-18 Thread Hugh Todd
Dennis, You have positioned all of your main divs absolutely. This takes them out of the normal positioning 'flow' of the page, which means that your footer will sit right at the top of the page. You will need to find another way of laying out your page. Using floats works. (And a clearer

[WSG] Where is my navbar?

2005-01-18 Thread Lori Leach
I am stumped. I have a CSS Drop Menu navigation on the following page - I can see it in FF but not in IE. My page validates. My css validates. I can't see where my error is... http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/gu/ The menu is customized from this one - which DOES work in IE: