Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 2/28/2008 03:57 PM, alysia hill wrote: I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am really interested in some feedback. ... Here is an example website which I think is pretty good http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ Here is the company website http://www.powerfront.com/

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Avi Miller
On 29/02/2008, at 5:12 PM, Bruce wrote: Does this mean that I can add a menu below the banner by simply adding the html to the template, and css to the css file? Yes. Change the Doctype at will, edit any template or add new additional ones? Customize what shows in a menu using html in the

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread tee
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Bruce wrote: This conversation comes up frequently. Unfortunately most of what are called content management systems do not let the developer determine what shows in the published template, as they are wrapped around the core programming and difficult to custom

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Bruce
accessible in it's entirety for editing. If yes, I'll have to take a look cause haven't found but 2 in over 5 years, and I do this full time. Thanks Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: "Avi Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 29,

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Avi Miller
On 29/02/2008, at 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote: What is needed is a cms that has the template code in the open in {x}html format which allows unlimited customization of it. One of the goals of MySource Matrix is to allow the end-user to customise every single piece of output text without developme

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Bruce
thing, yes? Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: "Webb, KerryA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CMS review Alysia wrote: Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfr

RE: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Webb, KerryA
Alysia wrote: > > Hello. > > I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am > really interested in some feedback. > > Here is an example website which I think is pretty good > http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ > It prompts you to download Flash 9 - which people on locked-do

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread kevin mcmonagle
That code isn't standards based. Use textpattern. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Viable Design
Hi there, Alysia. The code on both sites looks awful to me: the huge list of styles in the header, the bloated table-based layout. Both are drawbacks as they tend to lengthen page-loading time and create a lag effect for the user. Not a pleasant, I-want-to-return sort of environment, to say the le

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread John Faulds
Please consider that a cms is a tool too allow people to add there own content. So the inline styling may in fact be added by the end user. For the example site linked to - http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ - I didn't even get as far down to what might've been user entered content. Incomplete d

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Adam Martin
Please consider that a cms is a tool too allow people to add there own content. So the inline styling may in fact be added by the end user. Most wysiwyg editors allow you to define styles for the content, however I find a lot of people do not go to this little effort, rather opting for the inline

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread John Faulds
Me, personally, I wouldn't use a CMS that produced mark-up like that. Especially not when I know there are others out there that will do a better job (haven't explored Powerfront too closely to find out whether it's possible to alter the output mark-up). I'd have to ask though: why are you

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread alysia hill
Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am really interested in some feedback. I'm a graphic designer, and I have worked with developers that build wonderful standards compliant websites with a CMS. I have looked at the source code of Powerfront websites, w

RE: [WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design

2007-12-04 Thread Amanda Snelling
=1009182# Cheers Amanda From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nate hanna Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2007 1:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design Lyn, I'm also a big Textpattern fan and have done some c

RE: [WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design

2007-12-04 Thread Amanda Snelling
=1009182# Cheers Amanda From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nate hanna Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2007 1:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design Lyn, I'm also a big Textpattern fan and have done some c

Re: [WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design

2007-12-04 Thread nate hanna
Lyn, I'm also a big Textpattern fan and have done some custom plug-in development for it on a per client basis. I find that for the end client Textpattern is easy to understand and follow once they grasp "Textile" the mark-up language. If they struggle with Textile there is a plug-in for Textpatte

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread lisa . kerrigan
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Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
This makes me think does anyone know of a really good comparison table, I have seen some that just have a few technical features listed but they actually are fairly useless for most concerns. Michael Horowitz wrote: What is it you like best about texpattern. I've done one Mambo site and reall

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Horowitz
What is it you like best about texpattern. I've done one Mambo site and really wasn't happy at all with they system once I learned it. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Rahul Gonsalves wrote: On 04-Dec-07, at 4:09 AM, Lyn Patterson wrot

[WSG] RE: [WSG} CMS and Site Design

2007-12-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
Thanks Stephen and Rahul Yes, I always try to do all updating myself and this is the first client that really needs to do it as it will be a fairly frequent event. I had a talk to him and it will only be replacing one photo with another and changing a bit of text so nothing too onerous. Will

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
I would firstly consider what the content that your client wants to be able to update himself actually is. If its highly complicated then you might want to try to convince your client that it is not a good idea to update it themselves. That said I try to convince all clients regardless of job n

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 04-Dec-07, at 4:09 AM, Lyn Patterson wrote: I have never had to use a CMS and know very little about them. I have a client who wants to update his site himself and my hosting company supports Joomla. My question is: do I design the site in the normal way and then append the CMS or is

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Minh D. Tran
Hi Lyn, Personally, I had a bad experience working with joomla, and as a CMS, my clients are not big fans either. I found it easier to build my own CMS for the clients. MT Adam Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Lyn, I have worked with Joomla! quite a bit - and do be honest I am not a great

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Adam Martin
Hi Lyn, I have worked with Joomla! quite a bit - and do be honest I am not a great fan. It is quite powerful in what you can do with it. Too answer your question you are not limited in your design, however there is a bit of a learning curve when it comes to Joomla! Also, you do not do your design w

Re: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread John Faulds
I'd think a little bit more about what you want your CMS to do before jumping in with Joomla. I've only given it a cursory look over before because I wasn't that impressed particularly by the sort of templating it uses and the code it outputs. If your client just wants to edit pages themsel

RE: [WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Paul Bennett
CMS driven sites before, there can be quite a learning curve... :) Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyn Patterson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:39 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CMS and site design I have ne

[WSG] CMS and site design

2007-12-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
I have never had to use a CMS and know very little about them. I have a client who wants to update his site himself and my hosting company supports Joomla. My question is: do I design the site in the normal way and then append the CMS or is the site designed within Joomla? Am I restricted in

Re: [WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your calendar on a "normal" web page.

2005-08-01 Thread ByteDreams
Probably address this to Wordpress' community or to http://www.codex.org/ which also has a forum - Original Message - From: Craig Rippon To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as

[WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your calendar on a "normal" web page.

2005-08-01 Thread Craig Rippon
Hi Guys,   I’m looking for a an easy to maintain calendar that will list events in a “list” format, rather than in a calendar format.   It has to be able to be used by people who have no real interest in computers, so I was wondering if you could somehow use Wordpress with one of the ca

RE: [WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread Peter Firminger
.mail-archive.com/cms@webstandardsgroup.org/ Regards, Peter > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tee > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:48 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] CMS list archive? > > Hi R

[WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread tee
Hi Russ or Peter, Where can I get to CMS list archive on WSG website? I don't see it in mail-archive.com. I saw a couple of thread on < http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm> after logged in, but it's hard to find related topic that I am interested in. It mix with WSG thread. Regards,

[WSG] CMS List

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Firminger
You are using them old command method to subscribe and this has been disabled. Log into the WSG site and change your email prefs to include the CMS list. P > I know this might be slightly off toic, but the CMS listserv > on WSG won't allow > me to subscribe: > > "Sorry, the mailing list cms@webst

RE: [WSG] CMS

2004-07-29 Thread Geoff Deering
When I have time I'll start a new thread addressing this issue over on the cms list where we should continue it. Geoff > -Original Message- > From: Amit Karmakar > > We use Interwoven's Teamsite at work. Going from version 5.5.2 to 6.1 > has been nothing but a disaster. The Standard versi

RE: [WSG] CMS [ADMIN] Moved to CMS List

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Friday, July 30, 2004 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [WSG] CMS > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vlad Alexander (XStandard) > > > > Hi Geoff, > > > > >>But still it is no guarantee to maintain the sites > > >>st

RE: [WSG] CMS

2004-07-29 Thread Geoff Deering
> -Original Message- > From: Vlad Alexander (XStandard) > > Hi Geoff, > > >>But still it is no guarantee to maintain the sites > >>standards compliance when you hand it over to the client > > Actually, we are working hard to address this specific issue. Check out > http://xstandard.com > >

Re: [WSG] CMS

2004-07-29 Thread Amit Karmakar
nal Message - > From: "Geoff Deering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:45 PM > Subject: RE: [WSG] CMS > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Amit Karmakar > > > > > > W

Re: [WSG] CMS

2004-07-29 Thread Vlad Alexander \(XStandard\)
SIWYG Editor - Original Message - From: "Geoff Deering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CMS > > -Original Message- > > From: Amit Karmakar > > > > When we say CMS we

RE: [WSG] CMS

2004-07-29 Thread Geoff Deering
> -Original Message- > From: Amit Karmakar > > When we say CMS we mean Content Management, well in a nut shell > managing the content, publishing etc. Content Management and > Validation of code are 2 different things. > What does the group think? > I think the boundaries are slightly blur

[WSG] CMS

2004-07-28 Thread Amit Karmakar
When we say CMS we mean Content Management, well in a nut shell managing the content, publishing etc. Content Management and Validation of code are 2 different things. What does the group think? Have a bit of an interesting conversation happening here http://www.karmakars.com/weblog/archives/2004

[WSG CMS] XHTML WSYWYG Editor

2004-03-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi lists, We were sent an email about an ActiveX control that may be of interest to CMS developers. Here is the message: I am one of the developers of XStandard - a standards-compliant XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor. It helps non-technical business users generate clean and accessible code. We have a

[WSG] CMS Discussion

2004-01-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, The "[WSG] New CMS / Framework" is now getting off-topic. I was willing for it to go on as it had a good chance of turning back to being about Web Standards. E.g. methodologies for making sure that user entered content (be it plain text or widget written HTML) is filtered appropriately

RE: [WSG] CMS question

2003-10-27 Thread Mark Stanton
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Re: [WSG] CMS question

2003-10-27 Thread Tonico Strasser
Hill, Tim wrote: Hi, I just recently joined, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction for this. At my work marketing emails are sent out to promote various products/events. My role is to provide the structured layout, and other people to input the text. My problem

RE: [WSG] CMS question [Now OT]

2003-10-27 Thread Peter Firminger
As it is pretty well off topic (though tempting for me to throw my hat in but I'd consider that to be taking advantage of the situation), can I please suggest that all answers be directed to Tim off list. The way I understood the question, it was a CMS to author HTML marketing emails within a set

RE: [WSG] CMS question

2003-10-27 Thread Ralph
Monday, 27 October 2003 4:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] CMS question Hi, I just recently joined, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction for this. At my work marketing emails are sent out to promote various products/events.

[WSG] CMS question

2003-10-26 Thread Hill, Tim
Hi, I just recently joined, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction for this. At my work marketing emails are sent out to promote various products/events. My role is to provide the structured layout, and other people to input the text. My problem lies with