[WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Neerav
Is the opinion of list members that only using web safe colours in html/css is still the way to go or not relevant anymore? this article published 6 Sep 2000 http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/00/37/index2a.html seems to support my suspicions that ive been using web safe colours for much

RE: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread theGrafixGuy
With the cell-phones and other portable devices we will likely see a resurgence of web safe colors in my opinion but it would be short lived at best as the technology is moving fast enough that TFT screens will soon be available in even low-end color phones as they are now for PDAs. I guess the

[WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one

2004-05-16 Thread theGrafixGuy
A client today asked a very valid question to me about web standards, SPAM and accessibility - I had to think on it and said I'd get back to him on it. Let's look at this issue by issue, but first let me set the stage so to speak. This is a US Company based in Oregon and has clients across the

RE: [WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one

2004-05-16 Thread Taco Fleur
If you got a server-side language you can then use regular expressions to check the tags and correct them. Taco Fleur Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-16 Thread James Ellis
Kay Yep, Netscape 7 (7.01 I think) is basically Mozilla 1.01. It's available on the Mozilla.org old releases page. I believe 7.1 is forked off the Mozilla 1.4 codebase and that's when support for OS8 and 9 got dropped. There's a roadmap somewhere on the Moz site with all this. Cheers James

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Neerav wrote: Is the opinion of list members that only using web safe colours in html/css is still the way to go or not relevant anymore? IMHO, Web safe colors are still important only so far as viewability. Even if the site doesn't look good, but usability and accessibility aren't impaired,

RE: [WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one

2004-05-16 Thread theGrafixGuy
quote(the web is not the (Internet)quote You are CORRECT in that, the Internet is a part of the web. However, RESPECTFULLY, you sir are completely INCORRECT in the claim that SPAM is NOT on topic. To say so would be like claiming the tail is not part of the cat and therefore should be ignored.

Re: [WSG] The joys of list management

2004-05-16 Thread Tenley Shewmake
I'm fairly new, and I like this list a lot! I agree with Jackie that an OT list could be beneficial (not essential), and that a forum would be undesirable(painful on dialup). One of the reasons OT topics get started and go so interestingly here is that the folks on this list are informed,

[WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?

2004-05-16 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey List, I have been toying with FireFox and the: -moz-border-radius CSS Attribute... I have to say that, i think its the *BEST* modification I have seen in a LONG time... I wish that IE had implemented something similar, I know its not valid CSS. Just wondering if the CSS2 or CSS3

RE: [WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one

2004-05-16 Thread Rob Unsworth
On Sun, 16 May 2004, theGrafixGuy wrote: quote(the web is not the (Internet)quote Yes that was correct. You are CORRECT in that, the Internet is a part of the web. However, RESPECTFULLY, you sir are completely INCORRECT in the claim that SPAM is NOT on topic. To say so would be like

Re: [WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?

2004-05-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 16, 2004, at 10:54 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: I have been toying with FireFox and the: -moz-border-radius CSS Attribute... I have to say that, i think its the *BEST* modification I have seen in a LONG time... I wish that IE had implemented something similar, I know its not valid CSS.

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Simon Jessey
I would argue that it depends on your target audience. Suppose you are developing for an audience that mostly uses cellular phones and PDAs. Few of these devices support more than 256 colors, so the web-safe colors are relevant for those devices. If you are aiming for just regular web browsers,

Re: [WSG] What is the Web? (was: Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one)

2004-05-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
theGrafixGuy wrote: quote(the web is not the (Internet)quote You are CORRECT in that, the Internet is a part of the web. No, the Web is part of the Internet. RESPECTFULLY, you sir are completely INCORRECT in the claim that SPAM is NOT on topic. Spam IS off topic (not that I mind, but that's a

Re: [WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?

2004-05-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Chris Stratford wrote: -moz-border-radius I have to say that, i think its the *BEST* modification I have seen in a LONG time... I wish that IE had implemented something similar, I know its not valid CSS. I read that Mozilla included it, as well as others, not to offer extra standard features,

RE: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread theGrafixGuy
I would argue that it depends on your target audience. Suppose you are developing for an audience that mostly uses cellular phones and PDAs. Few of these devices support more than 256 colors, so the web-safe colors are relevant for those devices. But if you are building for those devices, why

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Justin French
On 17/05/2004, at 1:21 AM, theGrafixGuy wrote: I would argue that it depends on your target audience. Suppose you are developing for an audience that mostly uses cellular phones and PDAs. Few of these devices support more than 256 colors, so the web-safe colors are relevant for those devices.

Re: [WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?

2004-05-16 Thread Chris Stratford
WOW, thanks heaps. What a great read! Does anyone know what the next IE (in the next XP service pack) will support? I bet it wont support this, but 10,000,000 non standard, useless mods... :o Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On May 16, 2004, at 10:54 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: I

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread scott parsons
But if you are building for those devices, why wouldn't you just build a WAP site Because most of the people who use handheld devices hate using crippled versions of sites! (gross generalisation, but certainly in my experience) Few devices capable of viewing the internet have only 256

Re: [WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?

2004-05-16 Thread Chris Eidhof
Chris Stratford wrote: WOW, thanks heaps. What a great read! Does anyone know what the next IE (in the next XP service pack) will support? probably no css-improvements, only fixes for security leaks. * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Andy Clarke
Comrades This topic was discussed a while back on Accessify Forum (if you are interested...) http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1149 Malarkey http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk (Malarkey's blog) Neerav wrote: Is the opinion of list members that only using web safe colours in html/css is

Re: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ?

2004-05-16 Thread Simon Jessey
Not all small screen devices need WML. Many support XHTML and rudimentary CSS. Simon Jessey - Original Message - From: theGrafixGuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] Web safe colours - still relevent ? I would argue that

[WSG] Brisbane meeting resources...

2004-05-16 Thread russ - maxdesign
Apologies for the delay... The first Brisbane meeting was a huge success. We had 28 people attend, which is quite an achievement for a first meeting. Tony Alsett did a great presentation on floats and forms. You can check out the powerpoint presentation at the meeting minutes page:

Re: [WSG] What is the Web?

2004-05-16 Thread Darian Cabot
I've never seen a discussion quite like this... I'm sorry is this OT? Just a sec, I'll check my dictionary (-_-; ) For all you avid dictionary readers out there - A reference book containing an alphabetical list of words, with information given for each word, usually including meaning,

[WSG] WSG design competition voting time

2004-05-16 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi all, The design competition closed last week. Those who submitted entries - thank you! Surprisingly, we only had four submissions, which is a bit of a disappointment, but for those that entered there is a much higher chance of winning the prize. :) The entries can be viewed and voted for