Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-20 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Webb, KerryA wrote: Johan Douma wrote: Flash is on 99.9% of the computers. Which is the sort of claim made often by Adobe. But, if we're talking about a recent version of Flash on 99.9% of computers, that's a different matter. I think that's somewhat unfair. Adobe go out of their way to

php4 and encoded ampersands (was Re: [WSG] google and validation)

2008-10-20 Thread Michael MD
not a third party on the planet that knows how to write a valid script tag or encode ampersands... I've sometimes had to modify existing php and perl scripts to handle encoded ampersands. It seems that neither php 4's $_GET or $_REQUEST nor perl's param handle encoded ampersands in query

Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-20 Thread Michael MD
Kerry I agree with you there - while 99% of computers online may have access to flash 2 or 3 some higher (of course) I think that we would be extremely hard pressed to find a majority of online machines with flash above flash 8. Myself, a web developer, only has flash 8 on my machine (I don't

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Gareth Senior
I use TextMate. Extensible for all kinds of use. It has a good CSS bundle. It¹s rubbish for printing though - I use textwrangler for printing out code. On 20/10/2008 11:09, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Ollie
I use textmate, http://macromates.com/ as it has really good plug-in support, I have heard good things about Coda though. Ollie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the

RE: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Simon
Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.html It did the job _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: 20 October 2008 10:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject:

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread James Jeffery
I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like BBEdit when I am doing Java, C/C++ and general programming, but depending on the task I will use XCode aswell. If it's just

Re: SPAM-LOW: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread kevin mcmonagle
there is a free version of bbedit called textwrangler if you can hardcode. Gicela Morales wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Muswardi
I'm using CODA too... I think it's a great tools since when still using PC, I'm get used to EditPlus. Rgds, Muswardi On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Gicela Morales
Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread designer
Does no-one use Topstyle? http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help:

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Nancy Johnson
I'm Dreamweaver and hand write code. Years ago I used to use BBedit and loved it, however, I also moved from mac to pc years ago. I'm sorry that Barebones didn't develop versions for the pc. The companies I tend to work for are PC only Nancy On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:52 AM, designer [EMAIL

[WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Gicela Morales
Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences?

[WSG] Email form builder

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Johan Douma
I'm still using Dreamweaver mainly. Textmate (http://macromates.com/) for anything else, especially if I don't want to wait for Dw to open. I have coda as well (http://www.panic.com/coda/), but it is damn slow on my old mac, I don't know how it is on newer G5/Intel machines. If it wasn't that slow

Re: [WSG] Email form builder - ADMIN

2008-10-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
ADMIN As this is off topic, please email Paul directly off-list. Thanks Russ Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to

Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 20 Oct 2008, at 10:26, kevin mcmonagle wrote: micheal md wrote: I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 How about flv? IIRC flv came in with Flash 8 -- Rick

Re: [WSG] Email form builder

2008-10-20 Thread kevin mcmonagle
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am

RE: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:51 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS editors Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook  :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for

Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?

2008-10-20 Thread kevin mcmonagle
micheal md wrote: I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 How about flv? -best kevin *** List

Re: php4 and encoded ampersands (was Re: [WSG] google and validation)

2008-10-20 Thread David Dorward
Michael MD wrote: not a third party on the planet that knows how to write a valid script tag or encode ampersands... I've sometimes had to modify existing php and perl scripts to handle encoded ampersands. It seems that neither php 4's $_GET or $_REQUEST nor perl's param handle encoded

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Rob Enslin
Don't know about 'best' but I use Dreamweaver. Rob 2008/10/20 Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around (

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL

[WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Foskett, Mike
Hi all, Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically accurate? a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a ... div id=tandc ... /div a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a I'm currently developing a pop-up method specifically for Terms Conditions. One where

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Gregory Alan Gross
Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS Edit and Coda? .greg These are the days of miracle and wonder. On Mon 20/10/08 03:00 , Prisca schmarsow [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :)

[WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread James O'Neill
Greetings all, I am in the process of working with a developer on a Drupal project and I was wondering if there was any Standards Compliant and/or Semantically Correct widgets for Drupal out there... specifically for dropdown navigation (which is a primary concern of mine) or other things... I

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Nick Tomczek
Prisca, I have a graphic designer that swears by CSS Edit for all of his CSS modifications. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Gregory Alan Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS

Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Sorry, resending this, as I don't think my gmail account is signed up to the list. (if it posted anyway, apologies for the doubler) On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Foskett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
I am in the process of working with a developer on a Drupal project and I was wondering if there was any Standards Compliant and/or Semantically Correct widgets for Drupal out there... specifically for dropdown navigation (which is a primary concern of mine) or other things... Thanks, Jim

Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically accurate? a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a ... div id=tandc ... /div a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a I'm currently developing a pop-up method specifically for Terms Conditions. One where the TCs

[WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Christian Montoya
Hello list, I am currently investigating the disparities between various screen fonts and trying to come up with good font stacks that I can use in Blueprint CSS [1]. I found this page: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/pr_font_font-size-adjust.asp which explains how Verdana and Times, for example,

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Greg, how do they compare... that really depends on what you need your code editor to do ;) You've got to give Smultron credit for being such a good editor, syntax highlighting etc - and being open source. So as an editor - if this is all you need - it's perfect. If, like me, you work a

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Nick, yes, CSS Edit is fantastic ;) for my students, entirely new to webdesign as well as coding (I am teaching webdesign, the web standard's way - and full on handcoding) - CSS Edit is proving a great help :) The fact that we can go and not only take a closer look at any given site's CSS - but

Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Susan Grossman wrote: Since there are no standard values for rel http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.12 are the standard link types for REL and REV. They are open to use with other values, as specified by a scheme specified by a PROFILE link on HEAD (not that PROFILE has seen

Re: [WSG] Email form builder

2008-10-20 Thread Scott Elcomb
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend.

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread James O'Neill
Susan, That give me an idea. I am just starting to learn PHP and Drupal so making changes on my own will be fun. I am looking forward to tacking some. Thanks, Jim I am currently working on a large Drupal project using lots of modules. I have created my own Theme that is 508 compliant (and

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2008-10-20 Thread Helen McGee
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Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread tee
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Gicela Morales wrote: Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is

Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan Grossman wrote: Since there are no standard values for rel http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.12 are the standard link types for REL and REV. They are open to use with other values, as

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread info
Quoting tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Gicela Morales wrote: Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Mathew Robertson
Just to throw this in the mix - stop trying to control the font size! I dont require reading glasses (yet...), but due to weak eyesight for small fonts and high-resolution screens causing poor font scaling, I choose to increase the size of the default values for some fonts eg: I setup fonts to

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Hassan Schroeder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Ignoring the fact that the OP requested a Mac -- not Windows-only -- solution :-) So I'll mention jEdit

Re: [WSG] Email form builder

2008-10-20 Thread Mick Doherty
www.wufoo.com from memory does ... ? On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Scott Elcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread Nick Tomczek
I use Aptana for all of my web development (XHTML/CSS/Rails/PHP). It was just purchased by another company, but they do offer a community version for free (Pro version for $99). (Link: http://www.aptana.com/studio/). They do have a Mac version, although I've never used it, I'm a PC guy, but it's

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread jp29
I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Here is an expanded and updated compilation for zooming and/or changing text

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Dave Lane
To Susan and Jim, Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread jp29
I use HTML-Kit which is free Web page Editing/Authoring facility that provides the following features: * Multiple File type editing: .html, .xml, .css, .rdf, .php, .js etc. * Can be used for hand coding ala MS Notepad * Pre-formed constructs, elements attributes can be used via drop-down

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being -

Re: [WSG] Accessibility Transcripts for Audio and Video

2008-10-20 Thread Jennie K
Thanks John - I'll have a look into it. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Jennie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Jennie, Granted it was at the product launch of CS4 for Adobe, but one of the items they promoted was a feature in their sound

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread jp29
Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:36:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing body copy? Would this kill sheep? - Has anyone done this before? Is

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Dave Lane
Hi Susan, Yes, some very useful modules are written by people sometimes don't have a full appreciation of how they can take advantage of Drupal's capabilities - and fair enough too (I'm sure we did that too, when we started, and probably still do from time to time)... Ideally, if you have to

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:41 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:36:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Dave Lane
Hi Susan, Yes, some very useful modules are written by people sometimes don't have a full appreciation of how they can take advantage of Drupal's capabilities - and fair enough too (I'm sure we did that too, when we started, and probably still do from time to time)... Ideally, if you have to

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being -

Re: [WSG] Email form builder

2008-10-20 Thread Mick Doherty
www.wufoo.com from memory does ... ? On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Scott Elcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread jp29
Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via

Re: [WSG] Accessibility Transcripts for Audio and Video

2008-10-20 Thread Jennie K
Thanks John - I'll have a look into it. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Jennie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Jennie, Granted it was at the product launch of CS4 for Adobe, but one of the items they promoted was a feature in their sound

Re: [WSG] CSS editors

2008-10-20 Thread jp29
I use HTML-Kit which is free Web page Editing/Authoring facility that provides the following features: * Multiple File type editing: .html, .xml, .css, .rdf, .php, .js etc. * Can be used for hand coding ala MS Notepad * Pre-formed constructs, elements attributes can be used via drop-down

Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with

[WSG] Unsubscribe

2008-10-20 Thread Manuel Nunez
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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Dave Lane
Hello Susan, If you're doing a lot of Drupal development, and you don't already have it, I strongly recommend getting a copy of Pro Drupal Development by John K. VanDyk - the 6.x version of the book is ISBN: 978-1-4302-0989-8 - there's also a previous version focusing on 5.x which is equally