Re: [WSG] Nested Links?

side by side (preferably with a separator other than a space). Cool link here or there ... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webst

Re: [WSG] Web calendar

ySQL is actually server side scripting.... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

ox, if I click on the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it appears, then disappears immediately). I have to hold my mouse down and drag to make a selection. Annoying. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ F

Re: [WSG] BIIIIIIIG white space in Firefox not IE6

I haven't got time to analyse all those nested divs and the corresponding CSS. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://web

Re: [WSG] best practice?

tent of any and every div, list item and what have you. Best to just put it on body... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://websta

Re: [WSG] Jumping text in FF and Netscape

for the image. FWIW, spare a thought for people on dial-up with 800x600 display (nothing to see unless they scroll down or wait a minute or more for the huge image to load). Also consider people with MSIE who can't read the text and can't enlarge it because you specify the font size

Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?

e XHTML and CSS references) is www.zvon.org It even shows which elements and attributes are appropriate for each DTD (and I use strict 99.9% of the time) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-fr

Re: [WSG] Form Validation error

G'day element "form" which is not open You're self-closing the form Remove the / from the end of the form element and (as long as that's the only typo) all should be well. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fa

Re: [WSG] site check/comments please

uot; list. So why don't you use a list element? I note you don't want to add complexity. Is an unordered list more complex than the code in the splash page (which is not valid HTML4.01 Transitional, let alone Strict as suggested by the DTD)? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web

Re: [WSG] IE not displaying a link as a block level element

background:#0b73c1; } Try adding a width. If a fixed width nav block, fix the width, otherwise play with "100%" (but you might need a hack to hide that from browsers other than Windows IE) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, us

Re: [WSG] search field image alignment

rth... http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/objects.html#adef-align-IMG The align attribute is deprecated and should be avoided if possible. In addition, align="absmiddle" is a Microsoft Invention/Extension, which is why it works in MSIE. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

tools/plug-ins, at least provide a fall-back mechanism, so your site doesn't fail accessibility standards/guidelines. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussio

Re: [WSG] CSS list spacing: margin or line-height?

I don't think semantics come into it. But I may be wrong. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See ht

Re: [WSG] valid flash?

be better, as IE users with high security settings still get alternative content. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

Re: [WSG] style sheet set up

t for developers too, but why feed it to every visitor? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See htt

Re: [WSG] multi-lingual

l element to lang="en" and put lang="pt" only on the elements (divs or whatever you're using) with portuguese content. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites *

Re: [WSG] multi-lingual

US English --> <-- For speakers of British English --> <-- For speakers of French --> -- Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ***

Re: [WSG] Where to start?: Need to make a really junk code page to standards-compliant

transitional) HTML, you might try to remove further presentational attributes and aim for HTML4.01 strict. I note the site uses some CSS, but it's full of proprietary attributes too, has a lot of duplication and doesn't seem to do anything. Ditch it :-) Regards -- Bert D

Re: [WSG] Exporting inline CSS

head section, you could use the same method to replace it to use an imported style sheet. Biggest question is: how consistent is the site's layout? Will it work with an overall style sheet or two? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loa

Re: [WSG] CDATA and html tidy

G'day When I run HTML tidy on a file (XHTML strict), it always wants to add "/* in any of my (valid xhtml1.0 Strict) sites. Avoid the characters that make it necessary and/or usually use external style sheets (and external javascript files). Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web D

Re: [WSG] CDATA and html tidy

n there. I just don't see that it is necessary here (per http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/diffs.html#h-4.8) as you're using an external style sheet and there's no entities that can cause confusion to x(h)ml in the import method used. But I may be missing something. Regards --

Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

if you have set the font on the body element, try adding the table to that rule there. The following example assumes your menu table has an id of "menu": body, #menu { font: normal 90%/1.4 Helvetica,sans-serif } Hope this helps -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebde

Re: SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

ld put it online somewhere for us to look at, we may be able to spot the problem and steer you in the right direction. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ***

Re: [WSG] alt tags and image captions

ons under the photo, I think it's perfectly reasonable to use an empty alt attribute. Doesn't the caption take its place anyway? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-frie

Re: [WSG] resizing problem

get too big (in browsers that support max-width and max-height) There are still a lot of people with browser windows that are 760px or less in width. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-f

Re: [WSG] Crazy font sizing with 2 tables inside a positioned div

I'd be able to reproduce the symptoms you described would be with a nested table (old school, not recommended) The inner table would then inherit the 0.7em from the first table and further reduce it with its own font size setting. You'd end up with 0.7em * 0.7em = 0.49em. Regards -- Bert

Re: [WSG] Standards and ADS

G'day Jad Madi wrote: Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads? Not if they use standards compliant markup. Easiest way to check is to get a page to validate, then insert the ad and see if it is still valid. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web D

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

... How will assistive technology "render" it? What about browsers without CSS support? My guess is that some or all of them will double up on the numbering and cause a great deal of confusion, especially when the lists are nested. Plus I foresee formatting problems (indented tex

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

inside the dt (for the number) and give it a width? And put a margin on the dd equal to that span? Or what about simple normal every-day headings? We can go up to 6 levels deep with them... I guess it all depends on the application. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.be

Re: [WSG] FOUC Safari 2.0

he page is then displayed properly. See http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

Re: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad

"...Before resorting to an alternative page, reconsider the design of the original page; making it accessible is likely to improve it for all users." ...Last resort... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebd

Re: [WSG] Playing a MIDI

be able to use the object element for it. Give it a type="audio/midi" and see what happens. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discu

Re: [WSG] Playing a MIDI

itors who have not already installed Flash WILL have to install something for this to work. Besides, going back to Angus' original post: "I also chose MIDI because WAV and/MP3 would take to long to download." How does this "player" change that? Regards -- Bert Do

Re: [WSG] Constraining images

the images are loaded. Could be a problem if there's a lot of them, especially on dial-up. If the image is to be replaced on hover, you'll probably need javascript (someone correct me if it can be done with CSS) HTH -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fa

Re: [WSG] paragraph indent

G'day I wanted to get my paragraphs to indent on a site so I tried the most intuitive thing: p:first-line{padding:1em} How about p { text-indent: 1em } Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly web

Re: [WSG] paragraph indent

z. I tested my solution in MSIE6 and Firefox before sending it too. They both behaved per spec, indenting only the first line of each paragraph. If the intention was to indent the whole paragraph, my suggestion would have been along the lines of p { margin-left: 1em } Regards -- Bert Doorn, Be

Re: [WSG] IE vs MF ~ Image padding, bullets & numbers missing

But I still recommend fixing the 65 validation errors... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See htt

Re: [WSG] web stanards detection - is it possible?

ive them a plain-vanilla site. They'll get used to it as more and more sites go down that path. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] what tag will work here

priate Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hint

Re: [WSG] Body tag background color changes

y.section2 { background-color: #fff } etc with and etc Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgrou

Re: [WSG] headings and accessibility norms

#x27;s my opinion anyway. I do think a page should have only one main heading (H1) but that's another much debated issue and I'm neither an expert nor an authority on the subject. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebd

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

but I think we're far enough off-topic already. But how about cutting down the size of your emails and making them plain text? No need to repeatedly quote 40k of text with all that Micro$oft formatting in it. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fa

Re: [WSG] Large Top Margin

. The browser tries to balance the table cell heights and in so doing makes the "header" cell taller than you want it. You may be able to fix this by setting a height (in CSS) on the header. Better still, as David hinted, don't use a table for layout. Regards -- Bert

Re: [WSG] Large Top Margin

k at the resources section of the webstandardsgroup website - there's plenty of resources there for two column css layouts. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ***

Re: [WSG] link ?

G'day I'd say your problem is here: #navwrapper li a:link, a:visited { See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the page. I think you meant to say: #navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited { Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.co

Re: [WSG] image + title

be it should be a div rather than a p(aragraph). To float the paragraph (or div), add a width to .lfigure and give it a float:left or float:right as appropriate. HTH -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly web

Re: [WSG] image + title

t right to me. You might also want to add margin-right to .lfigure so text that wraps around the float has a little "breathing space". Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, us

Re: [WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

te fit (horizontally) at 800x600 (on my system). Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsg

Re: [WSG] link ?

G'day I'd say your problem is here: #navwrapper li a:link, a:visited { See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the page. I think you meant to say: #navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited { Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.co

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

foreground) image and use trickery (absolute positioning, z-index etc) to make it appear behind other objects. Hope this answers your question -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites *

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

real problem I see is accessibility - a number of links with the same text [read more] going to different URL's. (Checkpoint 13.1) And there's a couple of errors and warnings in the CSS. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Web Developer Better Web Design ht

Re: [WSG] Firefox JS Image function

ipt. e.g. document.getElementById("randomimage").src=imageArray[picknum]; (and just put the file names and paths into the array) Note: I haven't tested it, but it should work in theory (except in very old, pre DOM browsers) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Web Developer Better Web Design http://www.betterwe

Re: [WSG] Spacing Issue

fine-print you are trying to hide from potential customers, or is it important information they came to the site for? Spare a thought for visitors who use MSIE (which likely will be most of them) and don't have perfect eyesight (which may be many of them). Regards

Re: [WSG] CSS rollover with dynamic drop down menu

verSame goes for the other links. Hope this makes sense. -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See htt

Re: [WSG] Forcing Display of Block

pace, why not add padding-bottom:1em (or whatever you need) to the div? If it's there for another reason, you could try giving it a height (through CSS) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-l

Re: [WSG] html design - best practices

Either way, as standards advocates, I believe we *should* avoid these (and other) presentational elements and attributes in our (x)html, whether deprecated or not. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loadi

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

I thought this thread was CLOSED? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] weird three menu on IE 5

do want to fix it, the auto left margin on the ul and problems with the IE5 box model may be part of the reason for it (no guarantees). Note for "YW Webmaster": a 34kB email to say "Can you describe what its doing wrong in IE 5 and 5.5?" seems a little over the top. Regar

Re: [WSG] Site which only works in IE?

t as if they were used for presentation. But maybe I'm mistaken.. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

Re: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners

attributes to avoid confusion. Elements have attributes, they don't have tags and are not tags. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The

Re: [WSG] Two column left navigation

imple (unordered) list? Since (as I read it) all the images are the same size (width AND height?) you can float the image left. Something like: ul#nav li { height: 100px; } /* add whatever else you need */ ul#nav img { float:left; width:100px; height:100px; } Regards -- Bert Doorn, Bette

Re: [WSG] How do I combat extra padding?

css) a vertical-align:bottom. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/gui

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish nav moving page background image

this some obscure browser option or plug-in? I do get the jumping horizontal scrollbar, which is a direct effect of the content expanding with the long text on submenu items. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loadin

Re: [WSG] tabbed content within content pages

cking on a tab 2. The links (in the tabs) are to different urls. 3. There's no (i)frame, object or JavaScript anywhere in the source Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ***

Re: [WSG] Expanding height of left column to fill space

but it's not a crime to use one occasionally especially if the non table approach "adds unnecessary weight to the design". Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ***

Re: [WSG] Expanding height of left column to fill space

sign? The visual design is not always negotiable, so I use the means available to me to deliver what I am paid to deliver in the most efficient way I can. To me that means CSS based layouts *most* of the time. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http:/

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

rogrammers is a very good way of raising the risk of invalid documents"?Nah! Anyway, ICSS is not a religion to me and I will use a simple layout table if it helps me achieve what I need to achieve :-) And yes, it will validate! Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http:/

Re: [WSG] braindead - iframes???

G'day What's out there that displays the contents of a URI and validates? Alternative content here Give the object a width and height with CSS #Something { width: 40em; height: 30em; } Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loa

Re: [WSG] braindead - iframes???

served as text/html. Don't know about IE5.x If you're serving application/xhtml+xml it's not going to work in IE because IE doesn't like application/xhtml+xml. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-l

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

le the layout they want and need in the browsers that most people use. Horses for courses. History teaches us that such things, regardless of their present usefulness, we usually come to regret. I am sure history has plenty of examples of quite the opposite too :-) Regards

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

er." So there are times "when it is *necessary* to use a table for layout"? Keep reading... http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS-20050630/#layouttables-avoid "It is *recommended* that authors not use the |table| element for layout purposes *unless the des

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

to prove almost anything, depending on how you interpret them :-) Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

hem and yes, I have seen plenty of astoundingly complex table based layouts. I have also seen awfully complex css based designs. Anyway, I've said enough. I'm happy to dwell in the middle ground, doing what I can with what I know. Regards -- Bert D

Re: [WSG] td != div

;header" and just style the h1 element. Unless you use more than one h1 per page... Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Style a parent element based on an id selector of the child element

table or is part of a navigation list? If the latter, I'd use a list (ul or ol) rather than a table. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussio

Re: [WSG] images in html or css

gards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posti

Re: [WSG] The Big Lie about CSS

sheet - I have had plenty of cases where I've updated it and had to resort to Ctrl+F5 to see the update (in various browsers). That might just be a server setting, but I don't know. Changing the css filename is not a good idea as you would then need to edit every html file to point to

Re: [WSG] The Big Lie about CSS

I wrote: Changing the css filename is not a good idea as you would then need to edit every html file to point to the updated file? Unless like you (John) mentioned, one uses an include (I missed that bit). Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast

Re: [WSG] Click here--reference

be meaningful enough to make sense when read out of context -- either on its own or as part of a sequence of links. Link text should also be terse. For example, in HTML, write "Information about version 4.3" instead of "click here". Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better We

Re: [WSG] 3px Space problems

just for images in a certain section) Firefox (and perhaps other browsers too) have a default image alignment of "baseline" which leaves that gap at the bottom. Incidentally, you might want to have a look at the site with images disabled. Or load it over a dial-up connection. Re

Re: [WSG] Semantics of ?

ndardsgroup.org/msg17576.html Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Need help on css positioning

ed to the right but it is always positioned under the banner. A couple of things you might try: 1. Float the sidebar left instead of right 2. Don't float the sidebar at all. 3. Give the sidebar a little less than 25% width (e.g. 24%), Some browsers cannot add up Regards -- Bert Doo

[WSG] CSS validator updated?

r was it too lenient before? Should we ignore the warnings? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

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