Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Tony Crockford
At 05:07 on Sunday, 06 Jun 2004, helmut wrote: What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? Topstyle Pro 3.1 is my choice. Simply the best windows application for handcoding html / CSS includes most language syntax coloring and mapping for local live previews via

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Tony Crockford
At 08:35 on Sunday, 06 Jun 2004, Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: Self explanatory, see subject. As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html small footprint. code folding loads of syntax highlighting hth

Re: [WSG] KHTML ??

2004-06-10 Thread Tony Crockford
At 14:10 on Thursday, 10 Jun 2004, Jad Madi wrote: guys what is KHTML ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHTML and you'll probably like this: http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com (I'll get my coat) ;o) * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Web Accessability IE Toolbar

2004-07-14 Thread Tony Crockford
At 07:15 on Wednesday, 14 Jul 2004, Donna Jones wrote: Hi everyone, I just signed on to this list today and just set up a new filter and corralled all the messages. I would like to download this new toolbar for accessibility testing. Everyone's talking about it but I couldn't find a url -

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-30 Thread Tony Crockford
I'm a bit confused, if I go to http://www.yahoo.com/ I'm still seeing the tabled version. have they got some clever locale sniffing going on or what? (I'm in the UK) -- listening to: background noise http://wiki.workalone.co.uk http://www.xebit.net

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-30 Thread Tony Crockford
At 09:34 on Thursday, 30 Sep 2004, Mugur Padurean wrote: Tony Crockford wrote: I'm a bit confused, if I go to http://www.yahoo.com/ I'm still seeing the tabled version. have they got some clever locale sniffing going on or what? (I'm in the UK) Here you go: http://www.yahoo.com/?r=1096530966

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

2004-10-05 Thread Tony Crockford
At 07:48 on Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004, Peter Ottery wrote: Is there a best-practice way to build an item display with multiple columns, but without using tables? Name Price Quantity EditDelete Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] Pear $4.00 3 [edit]

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

2004-10-05 Thread Tony Crockford
At 09:47 on Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004, Peter Goddard wrote: Just because the table contains links to an edit page doesn't need for it to be defined in a form. Surely the solution is to present the information in a table and then style the 'edit' links with css, taking advantage of the querystring.

Re: [WSG] Unwanted gaps between divs

2004-11-16 Thread Tony Crockford
At 05:14 on Tuesday, 16 Nov 2004, Nick Lo wrote: By the way it can be solved by adding padding to it's container: div#content { margin-left: 190px; margin-right: 200px; padding-top: 3pt; } However I'm still not clear why. I'd imagine this might explain:

Re: [WSG] Avoiding image cut-off through CSS?

2004-11-16 Thread Tony Crockford
At 03:52 on Tuesday, 16 Nov 2004, Chris Stratford wrote: Wow, that is something I didn't realise existed! That is great! Thanks a lot Natalie! - Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Natalie Buxton wrote: Armit You can force a page break before an image using css. page-break-before: always;

Re: [WSG] Avoiding image cut-off through CSS?

2004-11-16 Thread Tony Crockford
At 11:30 on Tuesday, 16 Nov 2004, Natalie Buxton wrote: It wont do that unless he puts the CSS in the img {}. You can do it inline for a specific image, paragraph, whatever, or in a span specifically for that purpose. You dont have to specify it globally for all images. sure, but then you have to

Re: [WSG] standards selling points

2007-03-08 Thread Tony Crockford
kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hello, This has been discussed before but i was wondering about new input. I've tendered on a big job and i will be up against a lot of competition. What are some web standards selling points that might get through to a completely uniformed, unsavy client. MACCAWS was

Re: [WSG] target and accessibility

2007-03-10 Thread Tony Crockford
Designer wrote: Ludicrous! I see the point, obviously, but really!!! not really, you're missing the obvious. the links should be buy book on cooking ISBNx buy book on Shiatsu ISBNx buy book on Vegetarian cooking ISBN etc and the visual styling would be a graphic buy now

Re: [WSG] Teaching CSS

2007-03-17 Thread Tony Crockford
Cole Kuryakin wrote: Besides a book, are there any on-line, step-by-step “foundation to penthouse” curriculum course that anyone knows about and TRUSTS by experience? Thanks to all for weighing through this windy post; and advance appreciation to all who care to comment. I'm guessing, that

Re: [WSG] Floating Divs Over Flash

2007-05-01 Thread Tony Crockford
John Gribben wrote: Does anyone have any experience floating HTML elements over Flash via absolutely-positioned divs? I know that this is possible with the most up-to-date browsers, but I’m not aware of how wise this is in terms of backward-compatibility. Can anyone point to successful

Re: [WSG] Safari now on Windows

2007-06-12 Thread Tony Crockford
James Leslie wrote: Just to add to the confusion... I have winXP SP2 with quicktime installed (previously, not as part of the safari install) and am having no problems at all with it. Fonts all seem to render nicely, even the bug button brings up a bug reporting page for me directly. Me

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
James Jeffery wrote: H1 should be your company name, or logo. Why? shouldn't stuff that appears on every page, maybe in a div id=branding, be of less importance than the subject of the page? I'd be doing: head titleRugby World Cup 2007 Packages - Glory Days/title /head body div

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
Chris Taylor wrote: However that means it's probably not going to be the first heading element on the page, which is frowned upon by some. Can anyone else expand on the reasons for that? I think we need to be careful how we visualise page structure. I prefer the pragmatic headed paper

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
Web Man Walking wrote: h1 id=companyGlory Days/h1 h2 id=taglinetickets, accommodation travel packages for major events throughout the uk, europe and worldwide/h2 div id=content h1Rugby World Cup 2007 Packages/h1 /div Would I penalised for something like this? My understanding would

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
James Jeffery wrote: So basically what your trying to say is that branding is the least important part of the page, so place it in a p ? no, I'm saying what the page is about is the most important, so put that in the h1 take a multiple page site with branding on every page - after the

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to agree with James Jeffery on this one. I just checked one of my sites front page and found not a single h1, h2 or h3. Yet many of my key words like 'group health insurance' or 'freedom blue ppo' show that site on Google first page. Oh how I wish I knew how

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Tony Crockford
Joseph Taylor wrote: this conversation says that I should probably markup pages like: div id=header vcard content=for company name branding / other header info / /div div id=content h1My big page Heading/h1 content / /div Seems pretty straight forward. If the logo needs to be an

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-28 Thread Tony Crockford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the branding shouldn't be an h1. Totally disagree. Why? Seriously. Why is the company logo and strap line the most important thing on every page of a web site. isn't the page content more important than the branding? isn't the headline for the page

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-28 Thread Tony Crockford
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Exactly. But I still contend that my company name, being most likely more unique than any name of goods or services that I provide, doesn't require as much semantic weight in my markup and it will *still* be easily found by those who already know I exist - but that the

Re: [WSG] Font-size 62.5% problem

2007-07-02 Thread Tony Crockford
Paul Collins wrote: The font stays slightly larger than 11px, when I set it to 1.1em. this has worked fine on other sites, so not sure why it isn't working here. Any ideas? check that you haven't set a minimum font size in your browser preferences. ;)

Re: [WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-04 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Aug 2007, at 05:46, Cole Kuryakin wrote: er-riding user styles??? I've never run into that one before. Irritating. Aside from the !important solution or the (as yet untried) focus solution that Kepler suggested, does anyone else have an even more elegant option or ... for my issue

Re: [WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-04 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Aug 2007, at 08:49, Cole Kuryakin wrote: Why, however, do you wrap your link text in a span? Are there standards - or some other - issues I'm not aware of if you simply border your landing-page link text with the li's without span elements? I use the span to apply other styling to the

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-09 Thread Tony Crockford
On 9 Aug 2007, at 07:27, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/08/07 20:38 (GMT+0100) Alastair Campbell apparently typed: You could take Jacob Neilsons finding that small fonts were the most popular 'mistake' as proof that people don't know how to change their settings Or you could take it as proof

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Sep 2007, at 15:21, Felix Miata wrote: Who made this a fact? Just because web designers, a group with the following characteristics (creating a bias among them) to distinguish it from an average member of the general public: 1-detail oriented (more comfortable than average with small

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Sep 2007, at 20:15, Felix Miata wrote: There's already proof in the results - the web is overwhelmed by sites that set fonts smaller than the defaults - and the consequence that normal web users don't like it. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html Is it possible that the

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Sep 2007, at 22:04, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/05 21:06 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed: I don't remember the last time I visited a mainstream site and found the fonts smaller than normal. can you point to some popular sites (I mean mainstream popular sites) where

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Crockford
On 6 Sep 2007, at 17:39, Rick Lecoat wrote: The issue of whether an unchanged default setting, except when left as it is by deliberate choice, should be considered a 'user preference' in the context of most people have their preferred size set to 16px has not really been decided for me, but

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Crockford
On 6 Sep 2007, at 18:30, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/06 17:58 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed: - and if the client is looking at their site compared to everyone else they also expect it to look similar, not have massive fonts. You're the expert. Your clientele is a limited

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Crockford
On 6 Sep 2007, at 20:32, dwain wrote: Tony Crockford wrote: I'm still looking for a best practice solution to reducing font size to the *norm* and not causing problems when I do so. have you any suggestions on that front? in web design and the way the viewer can set font limits, i

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-07 Thread Tony Crockford
On 7 Sep 2007, at 00:39, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/06 20:42 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed: so, what happens if a user has their default font set larger than the browser default in this case? Can't happen. Browser default == user default. :-p You *know* I meant

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-07 Thread Tony Crockford
On 7 Sep 2007, at 00:03, Felix Miata wrote: Don't what? Don't understand your instruction? Don't believe your instruction? Don't let you try to instruct them? Don't look at the good example sites you offer them? ? ? ? yes to all of those. most real world clients I am aware of are being

Re: [WSG] magazine

2007-09-20 Thread Tony Crockford
On 20 Sep 2007, at 21:28, Rick Lecoat wrote: On 20/9/07 (20:57) Rafael said: I'm looking for a good offline (printed version) magazine to stay tune with the latest news about Web 2.0, Javascript, Ajax, CSS and Web Standarts. Do you have any ideas? I get Web Designer (Imagine Publishing)

Re: [WSG] Form styling

2007-09-26 Thread Tony Crockford
On 26 Sep 2007, at 18:15, Tom Livingston wrote: Does anyone have a favorite resource for dealing with forms. how about: http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/accessibility-tools/form- builder/default.php?type=css http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/stylish_accessible_forms.html

Re: [WSG] Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash With Jaws

2007-09-27 Thread Tony Crockford
On 27 Sep 2007, at 09:48, James Jeffery wrote: And i also said a blind person can create graphics, but only at a certain level. there are also degrees of sight impairment. I think we should all review our attitudes to sight and sightedness before assuming that vision impairment and the

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Oct 2007, at 04:33, Jim Davies wrote: Speaking only of businesses int he United States, no government entity should be telling a private business what it must do WHAT? with that one line you have just summarised all that is strange about America. Private business is above the law?

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Oct 2007, at 08:33, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Speaking only of businesses int he United States, no government entity should be telling a private business what it must do WHAT? with that one line you have just summarised all that is strange about America. Private business is above the

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Oct 2007, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to ensure my professional work is accessible, but I am far from being persuaded that legislation of this nature can ever be effective, without also being a burden on smaller sites, particularly those that are no longer actively

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Oct 2007, at 06:02, Christie Mason wrote: No one has a right to shop at Target. I think that's the real point of disagreement in this whole discussion. As a society we have allowed the concept of ownership and commerce[1] and in order to enable those concepts to work we have rules

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Oct 2007, at 08:15, Christie Mason wrote: There are many ways to change a culture, but legislating is not one of them. what you appear to be missing is that when all other attempts fail, legislation and enforcement of legislation is the only socially acceptable way left. Target

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Tony Crockford
On 5 Oct 2007, at 10:03, Geoff Pack wrote: Tony Crockford wrote: we don't have finders-keepers and it's mine, I saw it first or give it to me or I'll pull your hair as social rules outside the playground (and I suspect our educators are doing their best to change those rules too...) Well

Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-17 Thread Tony Crockford
On 17 Oct 2007, at 04:56, Nick Cowie wrote: I was experimenting with HTML over flash, and while param name=wmode value=transparent / works great on Windows. The flash plugin could not get the order right for OsX or *nix, no matter what I tried (source order, z-index etc). It was purely

Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-17 Thread Tony Crockford
On 17 Oct 2007, at 08:01, Michael Kear wrote: Nick I'm away from my Mac machine for a couple of weeks .. Do you think you (or someone else with a mac) could do me a favour and have a look at the page in question and tell me if the problem is fixed or not on your mac? I see the dropdown

Re: [WSG] Web Standards In Colleges and Universities

2007-10-20 Thread Tony Crockford
On 20 Oct 2007, at 10:18, James Jeffery wrote: Should i use my essay and examples and take it to the head of the college? I really don't know how to go about this, but its definatly a problem. Who set the syllabus? Assuming it's the college administration, then they are the people to

Re: [WSG] CSS display: none has SEO impact?

2007-10-29 Thread Tony Crockford
On 29 Oct 2007, at 15:46, Simon Cockayne wrote: Hi, I am sure I read that CSS's display: none has a detrimental on SEO. Is this true* or did I dream it? *To clarify...I am keen to know if it is true that there is a detrimental impact...not whether it is true that I read it or not. Google

Re: [WSG] CSS display: none has SEO impact?

2007-10-29 Thread Tony Crockford
On 29 Oct 2007, at 17:43, James Jeffery wrote: I highly doubt that presentational styles will effect SEO. When you use display:none you are not removing the content from the source, you are just hiding it from users viewing the web page. If you was to remove the element from the source using

Re: [WSG] Site content not showing up in Firefox on Leopard

2007-11-20 Thread Tony Crockford
On 20 Nov 2007, at 14:53, Christian Montoya wrote: Here is a screenshot of a page from my site in Firefox 2.0.0.9 on Leopard 10.5.1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thephotoherald/2049540131/ I have no idea why so much text is not appearing at all. Could someone with Leopard look into this for

Re: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

2007-11-29 Thread Tony Crockford
On 29 Nov 2007, at 10:46, James Leslie wrote: Thanks everyone for your responses to this. I might give the stylish extension a try or just stick to removing them by hand in the web developer extension. Sorry, bit late to the party, but FontExplorer X allows you to activate and

Re: [WSG] css issues

2007-12-14 Thread Tony Crockford
On 14 Dec 2007, at 17:32, Michael Horowitz wrote: I am wondering if there is an issue in how I am redefining .module-content { margin: 5px 0 20px 0; color: #FF; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: medium; line-height: 150%;

Re: [WSG] css issues

2007-12-14 Thread Tony Crockford
On 14 Dec 2007, at 18:06, Michael Horowitz wrote: Figured it out. You can ignore this question. no fair! you're supposed to tell us what it was! ;) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Colors for web design

2007-12-14 Thread Tony Crockford
On 14 Dec 2007, at 19:50, Michael Horowitz wrote: Anyone know a good online resource or book that discusses how to decide the best color combinations for use on the web. there's a lot of good information here: http://www.tigercolor.com/color-lab/Default.htm (see the resources section)

Re: [WSG] strange css behavior

2007-12-18 Thread Tony Crockford
On 18 Dec 2007, at 23:32, Michael Horowitz wrote: People may remember I'm working on an issue where when I click on one link on my site http://theatomicconservative.typepad.com/ other links such as Subscribe to this blogs feed turn red as if they were visited. Doing more testing I

Re: [WSG] Getting my feet wet in HTML5

2010-08-13 Thread Tony Crockford
On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:51, Ted Drake wrote: You need to build a site to learn HTML5 semantics, it's like the old days of hybrid table-based layouts. 7 years ago you really needed to ditch tables to truly understand CSS. Are you suggesting that to switch to HTML5 we should avoid the use of

Re: [WSG] RE: Fonts in MS Publisher compared to onlineRe:

2010-09-15 Thread Tony Crockford
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Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-24 Thread Tony Crockford
On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: You are doing an online course and yet you don't know how to find out what is included in the Web design suite! How about going to Adobe's website and do your own research? You never know this could help you fine tune your research skills.

Re: [WSG] adobe tools that works well with jaws?

2011-08-25 Thread Tony Crockford
From: Adam Martin ajmartin...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:32:24 +0100 I guess we don't go to boldfish.co.uk for compassion!!! Sent from my iPhone On 24 Aug 2011, at 07:16, Tony Crockford to...@boldfish.co.uk wrote: On 24 Aug 2011, at 01:09, Jay Tanna wrote: You