[WSG] Notes and links for Tim's AJAX Preso (Sydney July Meeting)

feedback or questions please feel free to write me. - tim lucas Javascript accessibility and JAWs (also, see comment 14 for discussion of JS onload problems) http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2005/06/you_shouldve_be_1.html Javascript best practices http://domscripting.webstandards.org/ http

Re: [WSG] What CMSs are Developers Using

Quoting Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can I ask what commercial and/or open source CMSs developers on this list use, which ones they prefer, ones they don't like (and for what reasons). As per the guidelines please post CMS related questions to [WSG-CMS]:

Re: [WSG] 508??

Lee Roberts spoke the following wise words on 29/06/2004 11:43 PM EST: Would someone please explain why the WSG thinks Section 508 is what should be used? Sure, if you explain what on earth you're talking about. -- tim * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] What do browsers download?

to display themselves. This also helps because many style sheet rules containing images often don't apply to the elements of the current page. -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

fundamentals are set in stone. -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *

Re: [WSG] Importing hacks into CSS? Whats the point?

containing everything as it's easier for *me* to maintain. There is no cardinal rule -- simply deliver the solution that is best for your client. -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Accessibility in FLASH MX 2004

Accessibility tools for Flash: http://www.hisoftware.com/macromedia_flash/ A few articles: http://www.washington.edu/accessit/articles?23 http://evolt.org/article/rdf/4090/57431/index.html HTH -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Redesigning smh.com.au amp; theage.com.au with css

Some posting guidelines and information for Nancy, Amit and all of our new members. Nancy: If your email is to Russ then please send it directly to Russ. If you then find out information which is relevant to web standards and that the majority of this list will care to read your post, then,

Re: [WSG] critque

=home' to your logo link as a link to 'm.ot.s. logo' isn't too accurate. You also might want to quote the international ver of your mob number +61 423 ... (you never know!) Seems to serve its purpose well. Nice work! -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com

Re: [WSG] invalid xhtml

at the moment is that it's not a high priority for web developers to ensure their documents are 100% valid. If you're going to do this then simply don't serve it with a mime-type of xhtml+xml. -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] scrolling area

://www.squidfingers.com/code/dhtml/?id=divscroller2 http://www.squidfingers.com/code/dhtml/?id=divscroller -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] re: using wildcard * in css (now IE vertical spacing between li's)

Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 403 8000 27 http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Tim Lucas wrote: Well assuming the different colouring is there just for separation then it is much harder for the brain to deduce groupings from colours than it is for proximity. Its just

Re: [WSG] new layout/design

to acknowledge it's existence. As alternative user agents increase in use amongst both the community and less-abled users it's even more important to be aware of this particular gotcha (especially with the upcoming release of OSX shipping with screen reading technology.) -- tim lucas http

Re: [WSG] new layout/design

splash of colour (just one or two complements) to make your site a bit different from the few other bw blogs. All round nice job. Your work (both design and coding) has improved significantly since you signed up to the list a long while back =) Have you done any paid work? -- tim lucas http

Re: [WSG] new layout/design

and coding) has improved significantly since you signed up to the list a long while back =) Have you done any paid work? -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] new layout/design

auto; width: 750px; } -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [WSG] print style - reposition a div

if you'd gone CSS-P it wouldn't be a problem :) Mozilla supports display: block on the tds, but alas IE does not. -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [WSG] iCal and other Calendar Formats?

/index.html -- tim lucas http://www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

receiving a ZIP. -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *

Re: [WSG] Validator Question re SHORTTAG YES

. Likewise for disabled=disabled, checked=checked and noshade=noshade. If you want an explanation: XML requires all attributes to be in the attribute=value format. SHORTTAG is a remnant from SGML (of which HTML is a subset of). -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com

Re: [WSG] Validator Question re SHORTTAG YES

. Likewise for disabled=disabled, checked=checked and noshade=noshade. If you want an explanation: XML requires all attributes to be in the attribute=value format. SHORTTAG is a remnant from SGML (of which HTML is a subset of). -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com

Re: [WSG] CSS Tables

. This is your first clue that you probably should be using a table. You can style tables to your hearts content so I see no reason why you'd bother trying to emulate them using divs. -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

you've set a 600px width for #content. Shouldn't you be letting the UA set it's own margins for printing? Also, have you considered including a rule in the print stylesheet for those using CSS3 capable browsers to print the URL of links? -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com smime.p7s Description

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

Andrew Krespanis spoke the following wise words on 21/04/2004 12:46 AM EST: Ok, I'm a full-time student, and as such, I'm full-time broke :( I'm VERY keen to attend this seminar, and I'm wondering if any other students want to band together and try for some kind of group discount? Email me if

Re: [WSG] target=_blank substitute

/DTD/xhtml-target-1.mod -- tim lucas www.toolmantim.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [WSG] Introductory Usability Evaluation workshop

russ weakley spoke the following wise words on 13/04/2004 6:14 PM EST: Forgot to mention, 10% discount for WSG members! Is that on top of the student discount? (not that I have the money anyway... lol) -- tim www.toolmantim.com * The

Re: [WSG] a QUICK HELPER - BRAIN IS DEAD AFTER 14 HOURS

Answered off list. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *

Re: [WSG] Trimming the fat

Quoting theGrafixGuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, my site is better, but still not where I want it, CSS will definitely bring it more inline but alas, I need to find a good lightweight, customizable and powerful shopping cart program to replace the VERY VERY tables heavy OSCommerce. Might want to

Re: [WSG] Help us redesign the WSG site

russ weakley spoke the following wise words on 21/03/2004 1:58AM EST: The WSG site was built very quickly when we first put the group together (just over a year ago). It is very much overdue for a redesign. In the spirit of group ownership, we thought it would be a good idea to open the process up

[OT] Re: [WSG] FIR deprecated [WAS: A rave about h1's]

Gyrus spoke the following wise words on 19/03/2004 1:46 AM EST: Just a request - could we change subject lines when the subject changes? Actually, I can't remember how the h1 thread became the FIR thread... But anyway, I'm sure I'm not alone in liking the ability to scan my list inboxes for

Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

Leslie Riggs spoke the following wise words on 19/03/2004 2:13 AM EST: If only I could get to Sydney...but it is not to be. Anybody got a DV-Cam? Maybe for meetings we could video guest speakers (with their permission of course), type up transcripts and post both to the website along with their

Re: [WSG] best ways to sell web standards

Have a look at the thread posted last month by the f2network team. -- tim Neerav spoke the following wise words on 10/03/2004 10:19 AM EST: When preparing a proposal for a potential client or trying to convince your management, what are the tried and true methods used by WSG members to

Re: [WSG] A few questions needing answers

Peter Firminger spoke the following on 6/03/2004 12:26 PM EST: Relative vs Absolute Links I agree with James first answer. Change hosts! I can see absolutely no reason for this apart from an idiot ISP. Speaking of idiot ISPs... Was it TPG (http://www.tpg.com.au/help_desk/activate.html - This form

Re: [WSG] Coding Standard...

My brace style of use is KR (Kernighan and Ritchie -- or what you call 'goofy') but I prefer to read GNU style, then BSD style (what you called 'lined up method'). I guess it goes back to my C programming days. If wateva team I'm working with doesn't like it then it's only 2 lines of perl to

[WSG] A new standards based smh.com.au/technology

Just received an email[1] from my SMH subscription stating they've launched a new website, SMH.com.au technology: http://www.smh.com.au/technology I have to admit. I was a little cynical and was preparing myself for an onslaught of presentational markup and zilch semantic markup. Off I went

Re: [WSG] Debrief and thanks to Russ Peter

Bloody webmail gremlins. Killed half of my newlines to! -- tim LC 55 spoke the following wise words on 24/02/2004 2:28 AM EST: Gremlins in the works or what chaps? Check the date on this original message below. Regards, JG * The discussion

Re: [WSG] Validating pages with password protection?

Justin French spoke the following wise words on 19/02/2004 9:48 AM EST: A bit obvious, but also ridiculously time consuming on anything more than 2 pages :) Unless you use the developer extension for FireFox... then it's just a matter of right clicking in the browser window then going

Re: [WSG] IE keyboard shortcut

Rex Chung spoke the following wise words on 19/02/2004 10:51 AM EST: does anyone know if there's a keyboard shortcut [in Internet Explorer] for jumping to the next headings (h1,h2,h3 etc) on the page? Nope. http://balasainet.com/iesupersite/support/keyboardshortcuts.htm -- tim

[WSG] Please Help with Final 2 CSS Bugs

I've done a CSS pure layout and only have two bugs to squash (I think/hope) before I can continue with the rest of the project. I've tried everything to get rid of them but nothing is working. Page is here: http://www.toolmantim.com/staging/playtest_2cols.html and the css is here:

Re: [WSG] Javascript question

If anyone could think of a better way to do this, or even an efficiency tweak I would be very grateful. How about using iteration instead of recursion? -- tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

Thanks Michael! -- tim Michael Donnermeyer spoke the following wise words on 13/02/2004 3:01 PM EST: Don't blame you. IE has been on my last nerve recently...ALOT. I wouldn't use the hack...it's a rather minor issue anyway, and the hack could cause other issues to arise...not to mention it's

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

Thanks Chris, looks fine! -- tim p.s. It's best to send attachments privately and off the list. Posting a link is ok though =) -- [WSG]: the poor man's browsercam Chris Stratford spoke the following wise words on 12/02/2004 7:17 PM EST: Attached are two screenshots of your website

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

Thanks Michael, One small this I saw is in IE the footer text runs into itself if the window is resized too small, say 600-700 pixels wide or smaller. I'm choosing to ignore IE's lack of support for min-width. Other than that and the usual mystery horizontal scrollbar, no probs. Is it

Re: [WSG] CSS Site Check

Sorry.. forgot to include the URL: http://www.toolmantim.com/staging/main_layout.htm -- tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] CSS Site Check

Could you please check the following framework for a layout i'm doing: http://www.toolmantim.com/staging/main_layout.htm Intended display (horizontally liquid with no borders): http://www.toolmantim.com/staging/main_layout.gif Thanks everyone, -- tim

Re: [WSG] Spot the Error

hahahaha Lindsay Evans spoke the following wise words on 9/02/2004 12:13 PM EST: The irony is just too much: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/02/06/spot_the_err/index.php * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] Walking Text in IE

I have a serious case of text going walkies off the left hand side of the page in IE: http://www.twoslabs.com/ Anybody have any idea why this is happening? Cheers, tim * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Walking Text in IE

Thanks David, The border-bottom fixed it gewd! cheers - tim David McDonald spoke the following wise words on 22/11/2003 2:22 AM EST: Tim, It's a known bug in IE - see: http://nemesis1.f2o.org/bugs_t?bname=Creeping%20Text And http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/creep.html

Re: [WSG] XAML anyone? The end of webstandards?

Can you write VB? then you are almost there :^) My first GUI program when I was much younger was a VB6 program. Haven't touched it since then so I'd imagine it would take a fair effort to get up to scratch... Meanwhile I am sitting here making a template for a CMS-driven site