Re: [WSG] use of in

style the lists etc by giving each of them an id Have you looked at the brilliantly easy ways of styling lists on the http://css.maxdesign.com.au/ site. It's a really handy resource. Cheers Jackie ---- Jackie Reid Mock Orange Media

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

cisions. Mark up your content in a manner that is unambiguous to other users, and don't adopt a bizarre interpretation of the standards that no one other than a handful of 'imaginative' coders will understand. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

Hi all respondees Ben Said ...it depends if you're talking about page layout or actual content - ie. is your business name, logo etc being used in a header; or are you creating a page which lists a bunch of businesses? For the former I'd simply use a DIV, for the latter a list (maybe a definitio

[WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

Quick question for you lot. Can fieldsets only to be used in forms or can they be used to group any sort of related information together (ie: business name, short description, logo and link). thanks Jackie *** List Guidelines: ht

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

Bruce If you own a copy of Adobe Acrobat and open the file in there you can extract/export images as jpgs. if not do screen shots. Its a pain... just like getting all the images required for a website embedded in a word doc aagh jackie - Original Message - From: "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

Hello Tee I am currently working on a site with the nils org here who are accessibility gurus and they have recommended that should i "have" to open a new window i should use this code http://www.siteurl.com.au"; title="Opens in a New Window" onclick="window.open(this.href); return false;"

[WSG] HTML Codes - Characters and symbols

this is handy for people like me who dont know the  HTML Codes - Characters and symbols off by heart or even 1% by heart   http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm   cheers   Jackie

Re: [WSG] Case of the amazing disappearing wrapper!

changed the clearing object to be a div and I've given it some dimension. Changed CSS: .clear{ clear: both;height:1px;} http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/wsg_fx_ent/index.htm Hope it helps! --Zachary jackie reid wrote: Hi List I dont understand whats going on here at all. http://www.

[WSG] Case of the amazing disappearing wrapper!

Hi List   I dont understand whats going on here at all.   http://www.fxenterprises.com.au/index.htm   the white wrapper div is just not containing the content. Or rather sometimes it is and sometimes its not.   when you first go into the site the wrapper doesnt stretch, if you use the navigat

Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?

Any chance of having a look at the code and the css.? Jackie - Original Message - From: "Chris Stratford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes? Hey List, I know this bug has been discussed before - but I can't find any sol

Re: [WSG] problems with links

is would be the same as Alex James   Ajay Alex James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jackie reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> i have been having the most appalling time with my links here www.mackayports.com css here www.mackayports.com/styles/newport2.css > in

[WSG] problems with links

Hi List   i have been having the most appalling time with my links here www.mackayports.com css here www.mackayports.com/styles/newport2.css    I am in the process of revamping this site in accordance to the instructions/requirements of the Accessiblity crew at NILS but i seem to have got m

Re: [WSG] Strange horizontal spacing in nav list

ssage - From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Strange horizontal spacing in nav list jackie reid wrote: Hello everyone... I am in a quandry... ie displays my navigation with whopping great big spaces in between t

[WSG] Strange horizontal spacing in nav list

Hello everyone...   I am in a quandry... ie displays my navigation with whopping great big spaces in between the list items. Why is this so... and how can i make them go away? Been trying to get it sorted for a couple of hours now and am getting frustrated to the max.   Please go here to see

Re: [WSG] Disjointed Rollovers in css

Peter and Thierry.. yes both those links are perfect.. i can get the drift now. thanks so much jackie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to th

[WSG] Disjointed Rollovers in css

Hi group   i would like to be able to make a disjointed rollover in css, you know rollover the text and the image nearby changes colour or whatever.   is there a tutorial out there that anyone has seen or used that may help me achieve this.       cheers   Jackie

[WSG] Can I text indent on the right?

Good morning, good evening to the list Having an issue here with text which is aligned right in my navigation list on the left hand side. I want text aligned right and an indent on the right hand side. Padding doesnt to do it, margin don't do it either as the border bottom then moves in the same

Re: [WSG] active and current id's in lists

thanks chaps! ... now i get it! Will put into practice immediately. What a great list.. go home depressed... come in in the morning and everything is fine! jackie Ted Drake wrote: personally, I wouldn't add the second id. However, you may be working with a nested set of links. The current id sa

[WSG] active and current id's in lists

HI all I need someone to point me in the right direction so that i can find out more about the active and current bits in a ul used for navigation like this - ** link link link this is one of the lists off css.maxdesign but i dont actually understand what the /active /and /current /is referri

Re: [WSG] Site Review - Another Government site thats Standards Compliant

Hi Esteban... congratulations on the site... looks great. If I were to suggest anything at all I would suggest that you restrict the size of your contents div (or your dl which ever suits) to prevent the text from spreading out too much. the line length is really long at full screen...makes

Re: [WSG] required attribute "rows" not specified problem

how embarrassing...sorry must be having a real blonde day!!! Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Jackie Reid wrote: /Line 156, column 69/: required attribute "rows" not specified [...] this is the bit its referring to [...] what's it all about? Aeh...specify the "rows" attribute,

[WSG] required attribute "rows" not specified problem

Hi all trying to validate this page http://www.jobfitsystem.com/system.asp and am getting this error...and i dont understand it :-( /Line 156, column 69/: required attribute "rows" not specified |...textarea name="question" cols="30" id="question"*>*| The attribute given above is required for an

Re: [WSG] Maguire v SOCOG confusion

thanks Patrick that'll teach me for just stopping and going "doh..what are they talking about!!" Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Jackie Reid wrote: > The commission responded: > "Wrapping in each cell can be met by using a simple device namely the > inclusion of an in

[WSG] Maguire v SOCOG confusion

Hey list... I am just reading an article maguire v socog here http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html* *and can't understand this bit that talks about the accessibility of tables... In response to socogs claim that: "The tables of results will contain “wrapped text within cells.” The commission respond

Re: [WSG] Sometimes you just cant help people ...

Why cant you just say "read content" and leave the skip bit out altogether jackie Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Hill, Tim wrote: I believe as more sites take this approach on board, it will become more prevalent to these users of what the links do. I'd agree with that. Additional two points: - even if

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

:) Right that makes sense now ... thanks... Hugh Todd wrote: Jackie, The height didn't change the transparency. It revealed more of your #nav1's background image. Remember, a float (unless cleared) will happily extend beyond the borders of its container. Except in IE PC, but that is a bug.

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

that did it... i cant believe it... THANK YOU HUGH ... my new hero! unbelievable... didnt even dawn on me to do that and never would have i dont think. thanks again... jackie Hugh Todd wrote: On 14/10/2004, at 2:04 PM, Jackie Reid wrote: I have been fiddling around most of the morning and am

Re: [WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

Hugh.Why did that work? Why would the height of a div make something turn transparent? h. confusing that...doesnt seem logical somehow. (no point in just doing it if i dont understand is it!) jackie Hugh Todd wrote: On 14/10/2004, at 2:04 PM, Jackie Reid wrote: I have been fiddling

[WSG] Transparent Background on a list item

sorry to be a pest but.. :-( things just arent working out for me today ... (or yesterday for that matter) I am trying to position a nav list over a background image, therefore need the bg to be transparent. Works for me in theory but 2 things are happening: a) ie is displaying the list b

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

Thank, thank, thank you everyone...it works now... i must have scoured through that code for hours yesterday... a severe case of not seeing the wood for the trees. All fixed with your help thanks again Jackie ** The discussion list for http:/

[WSG] CSS Validation query

Hi everyone im a bit confused here - trying to validate my css and i get this warning "Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a last alternative" what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings reply... whats going on.. ? Jackie www.jobfits

Re: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

personally i wouldnt use the H1 for your jezzjournal i would call that something else like logo div or whatever and use the H1 for the title of the post so that the h1 is not the same on every page. Otherwise you have set it up almost exactly the way i would do it... jackie *

Re: [WSG] Problems incorporating suckerfish dropdown

<>Jackie wrote for once ie is doing as its told and positioning the dropdown in the right possy but in firefox i can't for the life of me get the darn thing & Ben Bishop wrote: Arrrggghhh! Surely you've seen the trend when "IE is right, Firefox is wrong." Just how many times has Fi

[WSG] Problems incorporating suckerfish dropdown

Hi all... I am trying to incorporate the suckerfish drop down menu in this site... for once ie is doing as its told and positioning the dropdown in the right possy but in firefox i can't for the life of me get the darn thing to move let alone get it in the right spot... would appreciate any help

Re: [WSG] Accessible image rotators

Hi we use rotator php scripts and all we do is something like this. You only end up with a single alt tag for all images though so that might be a problem for you, but the site validates just fine Jackie > * > The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Titles Acronyms Abbr etc

Wonderful...thanks to you all... :o) Jackie Reid - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Titles Acronyms Abbr etc > > > Shortened forms on the Web - Abbreviations, C

[WSG] Titles Acronyms Abbr etc

offending stuff that has been inserted into my code in my absence.   Have looked online to find out when and how to use titles etc but cant find anything clear and precise so would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource in relation to abbr, acronyms and titles etc   Thanks heaps Jackie Reid

Re: [WSG] IE mac 5.1 problems with floats

.com.au/ > Ph: 08 9226 1366 - Fax: 08 9226 1375 > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jackie Reid > > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 3:55 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [WSG] IE mac 5.

[WSG] IE mac 5.1 problems with floats

Hi everyone...   I have just completed a couple of sites and both fall to bits in a big way in IE 5.1  or whatever for MAC... all the divs are all over the shop. It seems to be ignoring the floats and clears.   What should i be doing to get this sorted...   urls are www.juganaut.com.au - css

Re: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?

my newfound skills (still not where they should be i hasten to add - but getting there) and I feel no need to justify the value i place on them. My client benefits and so will I. Jackie Reid > * > The discussion list for http://webstandard

Re: [WSG] The joys of list management

Firstly I would like to say that the WSG list has been truly inspirational to me and i owe it a humungously huge debt of gratitude. At least 90% of the standards stuff i have learned has come directly from my association with it. I am not a member of any other list or forum any longer, I like thi

Re: [WSG] digital web magazine redesign

Tina said > May I ask what sort of "design books" you use for inspiration? and > I'd like to find some sources of "original inspiration" but I don't know > where to look for that. Inspiration can come from absolutely anything... A well laid out article in a magazine. A damn fine press/print ad Th

Re: [WSG] Is a degree necessary?

> displaying the ability to finish something you started   I hear this comment thrown about a lot as one of the major benefits of getting a degree, frankly I think that's absolute garbage.   If a degree is reward for perserverence, all members of this list should be given honorary degrees to

Re: [WSG] Where am I missing the left turn at Alberqurque?

>> displays as desired in IE 6.0. It goes the hades in a hand basket in Moz. Looks identical in both IE and Firefox to me...is this like a "spot the difference" thing? Jackie > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See ht

Re: [WSG] reply from ACA

Miles said... >> Seems like they glazed over when reading the accessibility information in your original email.    They didnt just "glaze over it" they completely missed the point!!!   Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035   [EMAI

Re: [WSG] border problem with IE

but that may be a starting point http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/test/test.php Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * > The discussion

Re: [WSG] Your opinion and feedback requested

of minutes looking around for a traditional menu of some sort so i think that from a user point of view you might need to include one. Jackie Reid > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstanda

Re: [WSG] Compliant tree menu

use as it has a memory. Maybe just me not implementing it properly as i am a total js ignoramous... :( Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Darian Cabot" &l

[WSG] Compliant tree menu

want and wont validate. Is there anything out there or should i be looking for a _javascript_ writer of my own?   Is this OT.. if it is ...sorry... maybe you could just email me direct if you have an answer.     Jackie Reid   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] marquee text

This one looks like it could do the trick... thanks all for your help all. Jackie > Have a look at > > http://devedge.netscape.com/toolbox/examples/2001/stock-ticker/ > > Regards > Chris Blown > http://hinterlands.com.au > > > On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 16:22, Ja

[WSG] marquee text

site?   Anyone know where i can find some info on this? :(   Jackie Reid

Re: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

Wow.. this is fun... Im really glad i opened up this little can of worms, the list had really been a bit too quiet for my liking today. ;o) But to Brian... you made me think about the size of the css and I have done some of what you said but not all..and even if the code is not absolutely bare bon

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Kay said >What I would do in your situation is hide the css from Netscape 4 completely by using either the media="all" attribute on your link tag, or @@import syntax. I actually dont really understand that stuff *cringe with embarrasment* I know i read up on it at some stage but as usual can't rem

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Kay Smoljak said> I have two stylesweepers set up - one for "readable" (nice spacing etc) and one for "production" (every extra space removed). One click (ok, maybe two) and your css is transformed... Good grief.. thats amazing!!! Thanks a bundle Kay. - Original Message - From: "Kay Smo

Re: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please

it is opened and is harder to read by a human, but it is a smaller file and reads faster by a machine.   From: Jackie Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] Constructive Criticism please   Hi

[WSG] Constructive Criticism please

Hi all...   if anyone has the time or the inclination could they please have a decko at these pages and give me some constructive criticism... like does it work at your end, any coding blunders etc! before i go at it hammer and tongs and start filling the content in. (have validated it ok)  

Re: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design

solution to that too if any one has it nutted out already. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jason Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design

ge.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html css: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.css     Jackie Reid

Re: [WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS

I'd guess your answer is at the link below.http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.htmlLeoOn Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 04:12 AM, Jackie Reid wrote: Something strange is happening to my margins when i attribute a 10px left hand margin to the div id lef

[WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS

Something strange is happening to my margins   when i attribute a 10px left hand margin to the div id left i seem to get a 15px margin in IE which then throws the right hand column down and under. This doesn't happen with top, right or bottom margins - they all display correctly. What's goi

Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

il 08, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS. Jackie the info in this pdf file is just what you need. LeoOn Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 12:59 AM, Jackie Reid wrote: Hi all...I have a couple of problems here that i dont seem to be able to nut

[WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

Hi all... I have a couple of problems here that i dont seem to be able to nut out, any help would be greatly appreciated if there is anyone around on the day before the easter break.   Firstly the site centers just fine in ie but is aligned left in firefox...why is this so?   Secondly and mor

Re: [WSG] Accessibility Headache Starting

Thanks to Manuel and Mike... that gives me loads to get started with. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Manuel González Noriega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WSG] Accessibility Headache Starting

Is this OT?  if it is sorry but   I sat here last night reading up on accessibility after reading the article at http://www.ergoboy.com/news/uk_user_friendly_website_disabled.php about new legislation in the UK.   I frankly don't know if I can cope with all this! After the trauma of trying to

Re: [WSG] A rave about 's

what happens when you have a number of tags that relate to different sections? Like #content h1 or #right h1 is that an issue. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "

Re: [WSG] New CSS site

to the web... most sites are still selling something whether its a service or a product and the content should be considered as important as the layout... ...so now we need professional copywriters as well... oh well thats just the way the mop flops!!! Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Developm

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

> Manuel Gonzlez Noriega wrote: b) doesn't work well for multi-paragraph questions or answers. scuse my ignorance but is it not ok to this: first bit next bit first bit next bit and another bit Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

In my struggles to come to terms with css, this list has been an absolute godsend as far as i am concerned, stranded as I am in sunny nq. Somehow it seems very much like a bunch of mates helping one another out. (That sounds a bit mushy but there you have it)   I haven't posted that often, ho

[WSG] Whats going on

Hi you lot   Can someone please explain this to me...   I have had a site up and running for a couple of months and doing its thing just fine. Now today out of nowhere it suddenly decides that absolute positioning is out and all those sections of the site simply disappeared from view.   Afte

Re: [WSG] Scrolling off into the distance

oor92 Victoria StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jackie Reid To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: [WSG] Scrolling off into the distance Sorry to bother you lot again...need more help. (

[WSG] Scrolling off into the distance

Sorry to bother you lot again...need more help. ( I only ever ask you lot when I have driven myself to drink over the problem)   But...   When I resize the file http://www.healthpoint.com.au/new2.php in firebird it keeps scrolling away and out the left hand side of the screen, therefore los

Re: [WSG] Positioning driving me nuts

would say just like that! Thanks again. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Ben Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursda

Re: [WSG] Positioning driving me nuts

would say just like that! Thanks again. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Ben Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday,

[WSG] Positioning driving me nuts

In my wisdom i have decided to revamp a site that's not even finished yet and now I've broke it!!   Why won't the content sit up where it should here http://www.healthpoint.com.au/new2.php want the stuff that starts home >> new2 to sit up in the middle there and it just won't!! driving me nu

Re: [WSG] Semantic vs Accessibile markup

> And don't get me started on s ;) > this bit seems to have been swept under the carpet.. I'm really interested to hear what is wrong with 's for navigation as, to my pedantic and not so up there with css sort of a mind, it actually seems like a pretty darn good idea to m

Re: [WSG] Benefits or not of @import style sheets

Excellent read... thank you. That cleared it up for me. Jackie Reid - Original Message - From: "russ weakley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Web Standards Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Benefit

[WSG] Benefits or not of @import style sheets

Afternoon all...   Can someone please explain to me the benefits of the @import thing or point me in the right direction to see why i should use it please.       Jackie Reid

Re: [WSG] Why cant i see the bullets?

Well Crikey!!! what do you know that works... brilliant ...thanks so much...I'm happy now. ;o) Jackie Reid - Original Message - From: "Luc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jackie Reid on wsg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1

Re: [WSG] Why cant i see the bullets?

Whooops... didn't notice that and have been looking at the code till blue in the face... unfortunately didn't seem to fix it any other ideas? ...please :)   Jackie Reid - Original Message - From: Michael Donnermeyer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, F

[WSG] Why cant i see the bullets?

Hello Group...   I need a bit of help here...ould someone please explain why I can't see the bullets in my  in IE... looks fine in firebird so whats the go!   NOTE! - please ignore colours etc just working on the layout atm   http://www.mockorange.com.au/test/one/index.php   http://www.mocko

Re: [WSG] Friday Afternoon Funny

Hi Chris I thought that was really really funny and so did everyone else in the office. in fact its going to join the other quotes I have printed out and stuck on the wall that we read when we need to raise a smile in times of stress. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor

Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

Hey Russyes i do... and here it is... http://www.healthpoint.com.au/new/default.php I seem to have all the side bits sorted out ( I should note that this is my first attempt at a css only site ... actually my first styly sheet...so you may find some crashing blunders in there as i am just fe

Re: [WSG] Re: Image float and text wrap

Re: Image float etc Have finally found time to sit and read all the emails that come through from you guys and lo and behold you answered the question that had been driving me mad about image float and text wrap so thank you all for that. Now i have another question. If i dont have enough text