> I think it's time for this thread to die.
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I think it's time for this thread to die.
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of zapcat
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:37 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
On Jun 23, 2010,
On Jun 23, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Sam Sherlock wrote:
its clean M$ is in cahoots with hardware vendors
seeking to push the consumer into upgrading
Yeah, and tho I'm a Mac user, that has long irked me...I hope that,
in this economy, the market really spanks m$ for that behavior, and
others wh
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> From: "zapcat"
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:11 PM
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> To:
> Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
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> at what point will even microsoft get tired of the stench and encourage
>> ppl to drop IE 6
out-of-date browser."
So yes, I'm guessing even Microsoft is tired of the stench!
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From: "zapcat"
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:11 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
at what point wi
at what point will even microsoft get tired of the stench and
encourage ppl to drop IE 6 and move on to a later browser?
I know they'd love to control the web, but they don't and the bad
reputation from always being the problem browser company must be
getting old by now.
zc
You make many good points. I can't really argue with them. However,
what i've been seeing is that many devs are tired of jumping through
the hoops to deliver IE6-7 a similar experience as FF or Safari, and
with the many new developments in front-end technologies that
currently do not, and most like
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:04:52 +0100, Tom Livingston
wrote:
If I may...
if you're happy with your web experience in IE6, then you need do
nothing IMHO. Eventually, and I imagine IE9 will speed this up,
developers are going to stop giving as much care to IE6 as they do now
- if they do at all.
If I may...
if you're happy with your web experience in IE6, then you need do
nothing IMHO. Eventually, and I imagine IE9 will speed this up,
developers are going to stop giving as much care to IE6 as they do now
- if they do at all. Your web experience in IE6 will begin to dwindle
to text-only pa
webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Stewart
Sent: 11 June 2010 13:16
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
Mike,
Thanks for this, whilst the sites I manage are pretty low-traffic, I
too have been seeing IE6 traffic of about 10-15%.
By ment
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:31:03 +0100, Edward Lynn
wrote:
Hi everyone,
For me the IE6 issue is to a degree self perpetuating. We all do our
best to
support IE6 and provide an experience which is as little degraded as
possible, and in doing that very thing, we give IE6 users no reason to
upgr
Well I can't mention who I am referring to in a public discussion group but
I know of more than a few who insist that ie has it right and are stubborn
on this beyond all reason.
I recall what things were like ten years ago - 12 years ago I have the same
mindset but then my eyes were opened - I too
It's not dinasaur developers. It's systems that were never intended to
have the lifespan they have. The web was a very different place a
decade ago. See I remember 25 years ago. You'd have hated that.
Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Jun 2010, at 16:34, Sam Sherlock wrote:
That's an industry edu
>
> That's an industry education project in itself.
indeed it is and Microsoft was forced to inform windows users of the choice
of browsers a little while ago
BBC Click reported that one XP user worried that this was the result of
malware installed on his machine.
Often users ignore system messa
ionally uncomfortable releasing such data.
>
> That's why actual numbers were replaced with percentages.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Stewart
> Sent: 11 June 2010 13:16
> To:
A good point. I have started tracking IE6 users down on an individual
basis, going to their houses and doing a "forced upgrade". It is
labour intensive, but it gets results! ;)
Russ
IE swat team
On 14/06/2010, at 11:31 PM, Edward Lynn wrote:
Hi everyone,
For me the IE6 issue is to a degr
*Andrew Stewart
> *Sent:* 11 June 2010 13:16
> *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> Thanks for this, whilst the sites I manage are pretty low-traffic, I too
> have been seeing IE6 traffic of about 10
lf Of Andrew Stewart
Sent: 11 June 2010 13:16
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
Mike,
Thanks for this, whilst the sites I manage are pretty low-traffic, I too have
been seeing IE6 traffic of about 10-15%.
By mentioning "shoppers" I guess
I have stats from a few websites which show a similar picture:
Financial services site (5800 visitors over the last couple of months):
Internet Explorer 80.12%
Firefox9.52%
Safari 5.71%
Chrome 3.52%
Mozilla0.34%
Opera 0.29%
And for IE
Here are some stats I collected from a collection of large, high-traffic
Australian sports/news websites I am involved with:
IE8: 45%
IE7: 30%
IE6: 10%
Firefox 3.x: 9%
Everything else: 6%
This is off the top of my head, but IE6 definitely accounts for 10-11% (and
is higher than FF3). These stats
Any bets we'll still be using HTML5 in 2018?
On Sat, June 12, 2010 4:16 pm, Sam Sherlock wrote:
>>
>> Any bets for it being done in time to watch the 2018 World Cup on an
>> HTML 5
>> video feed?
>
>
> in a ie browser without any fudging?
>
> my initial response was only if Google are in position
>
> Any bets for it being done in time to watch the 2018 World Cup on an HTML 5
> video feed?
in a ie browser without any fudging?
my initial response was only if Google are in position to take over
Microsoft before that date, but...
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2010/05/19/another-follow-
Again, interesting, stuff, Dave.
Concerning your remark:
> If I was Microsoft I'd be quite worried that the IT support pros,
> influencers and developers have such a different make-up than the
> mainstream.
I believe they are indeed concerned about this. AIUI they're a little
fed up with the c
For what it's worth, some of our non-techie sites (with much smaller
user numbers, as they're focused on the relatively tiny New Zealand
market) are showing a slightly rosier picture over the past month:
Advocacy website for cyclists (4544 visits):
IE: 41.57% (IE6-15.09% 7-37.96% 8-46.96%)
FF:
ent: 11 June 2010 13:33
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
>
> On 11/06/10 9:32 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote:
>> I just took a peek at our own stats for May 2010.
>>
>> A very large set limited to UK online shoppers only.
&g
Can you not swing IE8 in compatibility mode? That'll have no issues
with activeX.
Out of interest why won't your IT deparment say use this browser fir
internal apps and the new FF or whatever for other browsing. Putting a
shortcut to the internal app URL on the desktop would make it easy to
Hi Phil,
Sadly, no, it's not a typo. For some reason, known only to our IT
department, they got locked into a vendor contract on some mission critical
software where the vendor has only recently certified IE7 compatibility. The
vendor *has not* certified their product with IE8, so we can't move to
Thanks everyone for these interesting stats - depressing as they are.
Lucien - I assume it's not a typo when you say your IT department is now
rolling out IE7. I'm curious to know the rationale behind that cf. going
straight to IE8. If they're doing all the testing to ensure that IE7 is
safe f
Our site is a large health care site. Of the ~25 visitors in the last
month, Google says the break down by browser is...
Internet Explorer 69.44%
Firefox 15.98%
Safari 9.32%
Chrome 4.20%
And of the IE traffic, we get...
IE 8.0 37.90%
IE 7.0 32.87%
IE 6.0 29.23%
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:32:03 +0100, Foskett, Mike
wrote:
Hi all,
Ref "Links for light reading" article:
http://mashable.com/2010/06/01/ie6-below-5-percent/
Which basically states IEv6 has dropped below the 5% threshold across
USA and Europe.
Nice figures, the stats were produced for
[mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Lea de Groot
Sent: 11 June 2010 13:33
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
On 11/06/10 9:32 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote:
> I just took a peek at our own stats for May 2010.
>
> A very larg
On 11/06/10 9:32 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote:
I just took a peek at our own stats for May 2010.
A very large set limited to UK online shoppers only.
And I couldn't agree less with the article.
I have a couple of large .au 'mum and dad' sites (ie, not techie) and I
have similar results to your .u
The website for the RSPCA Cornwall (which I provide, voluntarily) has a lot of
visitors from all walks of life and represents a reasonable cross section of
what users are up to.
In the last year, which is a long time I know, some 3663 users of IE6 have
visited the site. O.K., so that's only 8
Mike,
Thanks for this, whilst the sites I manage are pretty low-traffic, I
too have been seeing IE6 traffic of about 10-15%.
By mentioning "shoppers" I guess you are running an e-commerce site. I
would be very interested to know how your revenue is split across
browsers. It seems that IE6
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