Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-08-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/08/2017 14:34, Steve Huston wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: I want this change to go into WSJT-X v1.8.0 RC2 but I am aware that it is an awfully large change to drop in at this late stage, nevertheless I feel it fixes more critical issues than it introduces.

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-08-03 Thread Steve Huston
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > I want this change to go into WSJT-X v1.8.0 RC2 > but I am aware that it is an awfully large change to drop in at this late > stage, nevertheless I feel it fixes more critical issues than it introduces. > Currently it is only in the develop

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Richard Lamont
Hi Joe, > I trust you understand that these are the full execution times to decode > however many signals were present. In your example file I think there > were 16. Yes. > Are you happy now with the ordering or displayed Rx and Tx messages in > your "Rx Frequency" window? Yes, thank you. I was

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Richard, Summary of resultsr7944 r7956 r7956 (AP off) (AP on) Fast 0.605 0.137 0.148 Normal1.176 0.676 0.750 Deep 2.785 0.809 1.535 So, it looks as though things have

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Bill Somerville
On 26/07/2017 17:26, Bill Somerville wrote: AP decoding places more diligence on the operator as such decodes can be deceptively valid and you should look at the quality and other decoder information added after the message before making an assessment on the accuracy of the decode. I should a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Joe Taylor
On 7/26/2017 12:01 PM, W9MDB Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: What is "AP" decoding? Decoding a message with aid of "a priori" information gathered cumulatively during the progress of a QSO. It has been in WSJT-X for about a year, in mode QRA64. It's now available in FT8. -- Jo

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Bill Somerville
On 26/07/2017 17:01, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: What is "AP" decoding? Hi Mike, let me try a dumbed down explanation, not because I want to dumb it down but because that is probably as deep as my understanding goes. When decoding a signal we have some fixed criteria for a good deco

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Wolfgang
Hello Mike, according to the manual: "the available a priori (AP) information " = content of ALL.TXT (?) but I am not 100% sure ;-) 73 de Wolfgang OE1MWW -- Amateur radio is the most expensive type of free-of-charge communication! Amateurfunk ist die teuerste Art der kostenlosen Kommunik

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread ki7mt via wsjt-devel
Hi Richard, ... (Haven't yet found out how to persuade JTSDK to pick a specific revision e.g. r7946. Maybe I should RTFM.) Questions regarding JTSDK-{win32/nix} should go here: jt...@groups.io 73's Greg, KI7MT -- C

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
What is "AP" decoding? de Mike W9MDB-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ wsjt-devel ma

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-26 Thread Richard Lamont
On 25/07/17 22:50, Steven Franke wrote: > FWIW, you may find that r7946 is somewhat faster than r7944, on all settings. > I have made a change that will reduce the number of non-viable candidates > that are sent to the decoders. Thanks Steve. Thanks also to Joe for the tip on timer.out. I've d

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Richard, On 7/25/2017 4:58 PM, Richard Lamont G4DYA wrote: On 25/07/17 00:17, Joe Taylor wrote: Ubuntu MATE 16.04 amd64 1.7.1-devel r7939 Auto seq and call 1st enabled Tried it and it looks as though FT8 now has a two-pass decoder, which is nice. Since you're providing feedback on develo

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Greg Beam
July 25, 2017 3:44 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic On 25/07/17 22:09, Steven Franke wrote: > Hi Richard, > >> As Bill mentioned in his OP, the FT8 decoder is still a work in >> progress bu

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Richard, > 1.8.0-rc1 fast/normal/deep 0.2s/0.5s/0.7s > 1.8.0-rc2-r7924fast/normal/deep 0.2s/0.5s/0.7s > 1.7.1-devel-r7944 fast/normal/deep 0.4s/0.8s/2.5s FWIW, you may find that r7946 is somewhat faster than r7944, on all settings. I have made a change that will reduce the

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Richard Lamont
On 25/07/17 22:09, Steven Franke wrote: > Hi Richard, > >> As Bill mentioned in his OP, the FT8 decoder is still a work in progress >> but I have noticed that the r7939/r7944 decoder is currently too slow to >> be usable on my machine, which uses a Core 2 Duo E6700 CPU (2 x 2.66 GHz >> cores), eve

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Bill Somerville
On 25/07/2017 21:58, Richard Lamont wrote: As Bill mentioned in his OP, the FT8 decoder is still a work in progress but I have noticed that the r7939/r7944 decoder is currently too slow to be usable on my machine, which uses a Core 2 Duo E6700 CPU (2 x 2.66 GHz cores), even with nothing much else

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-25 Thread Steven Franke
Hi Richard, > As Bill mentioned in his OP, the FT8 decoder is still a work in progress > but I have noticed that the r7939/r7944 decoder is currently too slow to > be usable on my machine, which uses a Core 2 Duo E6700 CPU (2 x 2.66 GHz > cores), even with nothing much else running. (Admittedly th

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:24 PM, igwt1939 wrote: > > The biggest problems I have is it jumping around and I think it confuses the > other op so that sometime they don't come back to the finish ,but I still > enjoy it but will be glad when it gets stable. Could you explain what you mean by jumpi

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread igwt1939
Monday, July 24, 2017 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic On 24/07/17 20:35, Bill Somerville wrote: Currently it is only in the development branch but I urge those brave enough to build the development branch to try it and report back. You s

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Richard, Richard G4DYA wrote: Ubuntu MATE 16.04 amd64 1.7.1-devel r7939 Auto seq and call 1st enabled Tried it and it looks as though FT8 now has a two-pass decoder, which is nice. Since you're providing feedback on development code, you should not need to guess or make inferences abou

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Bill Somerville
On 24/07/2017 23:10, Richard Lamont wrote: On 24/07/17 20:35, Bill Somerville wrote: Currently it is only in the development branch but I urge those brave enough to build the development branch to try it and report back. You should note that the development branch also contains FT8 decoder chang

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Richard Lamont
On 24/07/17 20:35, Bill Somerville wrote: > Currently it is only in the development branch but I > urge those brave enough to build the development branch to try it and > report back. You should note that the development branch also contains > FT8 decoder changes that are not yet finalized and may

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread charlie
Hi Bill I just built r7939 and Sh messages in JT4 and QRA64 now seem to be working correctly with Type 1 compound mycall. 73 Charlie > Hi All, > > I have finally got to a point where I can commit the large round of > changes that came from doing the above. The change (r7939) comment is > this:

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Tom-KQ5S
Thanks Bill. That is what I thought the "policy" was. Just clarifying. 73, Tom - KQ5S On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > On 24/07/2017 21:50, Tom-KQ5S wrote: > > I built and installed 7939. You mentioned " Auto sequencing has been > made generic such that it can be

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Bill Somerville
On 24/07/2017 21:50, Tom-KQ5S wrote: I built and installed 7939. You mentioned " Auto sequencing has been made generic such that it can be used for more than one mode if desired." Does this mean JT9/65? If so where do you toggle it on? Hi Tom, the "if desired" refers to the developers

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Tom-KQ5S
Thanks Bill. I built and installed 7939. You mentioned " Auto sequencing has been made generic such that it can be used for more than one mode if desired." Does this mean JT9/65? If so where do you toggle it on? 73, Tom - KQ5S On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > Hi

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: review of message reply and sequencing logic

2017-07-24 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi All, I have finally got to a point where I can commit the large round of changes that came from doing the above. The change (r7939) comment is this: + Add the option to ALT+click a decoded CQ or QRZ message which only moves the Rx frequency to theirs