Why do you generate msgs if you are wanting to call CQ?
Generate Msgs takes the DXCall value but there is probably no value there if
you wish to call CQ.
Alan McDonald
VK1AO
-Original Message-
From: Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:38 PM
To:
Hello,
Setup: FT8 V2.6.1, Windows 10, Kenwood TS590SG operated via USB cable.
Time/Date: Last night, thinking about changing TX6 to specifically call
3C3CA with a CQ.
So we know that "CQ DL AF8C EN81"
WILL be transmitted if I modify TX6 and call CQ for Germany,
However attempting to use "CQ
Hello,
When wsprd runs multiple passes, it still calls subtract_signal2() as
well as get_wspr_channel_signals() on the last pass.
The updated I/Q data isn't used as the loop doesn't execute again.
When I modified wsprd.c to skip subtraction on the last pass I noticed
better timing numbers (since
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 03:06:34AM +1000, Adrian via wsjt-devel wrote:
> On 9/5/23 02:49, Jim Brown via wsjt-devel wrote:
>
> > #3 is bogus.
>
> How would you know ? You lack the technical ability..
I'm not an AES fellow, but as another audio 'expert' I can only
confirm that #3 is complete
Yes, that is perfectly clear and needs no further 'discussion'.
73
Conrad PA5Y
-Original Message-
From: Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2023 8:34 PM
To: WSJT software development
Cc: Joe Taylor
Subject: [wsjt-devel] Enough
Please, folks, no more email about
I am the person who started this thread.
I was preparing some useful test data on splits to this thread.
So I will not send it. I don't want to cause more trouble.
--73, Glenn, AF8C
On 5/8/2023 1:41 PM, Conrad PA5Y via wsjt-devel wrote:
I have to say that this is possibly to most tedious and
Moderators! Help! Please!
While I’ve found this to be royally entertaining, this equine has been beaten,
flayed, left for dead, reanimated and zombified. Perhaps I’m overly naïve, but
does this discussion of “split” really cause the amount of confusion implied
except among the principals
Looks like this hoss has been whupped to death.
Bobby/N4AU
On 5/8/2023 2:30 PM, Jim Brown via wsjt-devel wrote:
On 5/8/2023 10:06 AM, Adrian wrote:
How would you know ? You lack the technical ability..
I'm a Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society, on the basis of a wide
range of technical
I have to say that this is possibly to most tedious and pointless thread I have
ever seen. As for Jim Brown not having the technical ability, I am lost for
words.
Adrian, please calm down, you are becoming very unpopular.
73 Conrad PA5Y
-Original Message-
From: Adrian via wsjt-devel
On 5/8/2023 10:06 AM, Adrian wrote:
How would you know ? You lack the technical ability..
I'm a Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society, on the basis of a wide
range of technical achievements. Also a member of the Standards
Committee of the AES, Vice-Chair of the WG on EMC, a principle
Please, folks, no more email about "Split".
Multiple messages on the same topic by the same few individuals are
seldom helpful -- and in my view most certainly have not been, in this
instance.
Regarding terminology used in the WSJT-X user interface: English and
most other modern languages
Or, pick words that don’t have a meaning yet. Like call it “TX Optimizan” with choices like “none” “active” and “emulate” . I am joking. -Brian N9ADGSent via iPhoneOn May 8, 2023, at 11:18 AM, John Kludt via wsjt-devel wrote:Michael,My vote is we have beat this issue to death several times over.
Michael,
My vote is we have beat this issue to death several times over. Pick any
language, as it evolves words take on new meanings or nuances. Can we
maybe let this one go?
John K7SYS
On Mon, May 8, 2023, 09:37 Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> And
Gah! I am out of here!
Phil de W1ZOT
On Mon, May 8, 2023, 13:11 Adrian via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> On 9/5/23 02:49, Jim Brown via wsjt-devel wrote:
> > #1 is hardly a benefit,
>
>
> Why not, utilizing a gap at 100Hz or 2900Hz is very useful and effective
> with
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On 9/5/23 02:49, Jim Brown via wsjt-devel wrote:
#1 is hardly a benefit,
Why not, utilizing a gap at 100Hz or 2900Hz is very useful and effective
with split.
#3 is bogus.
How would you know ? You lack the technical ability..
#2 is a side benefit, but VERY secondary, and not the
#1 is hardly a benefit, #3 is bogus. #2 is a side benefit, but VERY
secondary, and not the fundamental purpose of the practice.
73, Jim K9YC
On 5/8/2023 7:26 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
#1 It allows you to transmit outside your passband.
#2 It avoids roll off of power at band
I strongly disagree, Mike. Bjorn's suggestion to call it Transmit
Harmonic Prevention is a VERY good one, because it describes what the
choice does. It is NOT "split" in the sense it has been used in ham
radio for at least 70 years.
People learn from things being called what they are. Bjorn's
Mike I personally do not have issue with it as is, and as you know most
do not read the manual, or could not be bothered.
"Split Operation for Signal Quality" could be another option ? Just
lets the newbies get a clue on why a split option is there.
73
vk4tux
On 9/5/23 02:32, Black
And ya'll are confusing the purpose of split with the rig split function.
We have 3 choices
#1 Fake It#2 Rig#3 None
The all refer to split -- not to any reason for using it. You are trying to
put the reason as the title.
Mike W9MDB
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 10:51:17 AM CDT, Adrian via
The RX frequency = Set band frequency & pan marker sent > received. If I
send you a 1900Hz audio modulated signal at split Sub TX vfo set
14.072.500 = 14.074.400 usb freq,
Your RX on 14.074.00 band standard RX will see it at 400Hz marker.
73
vk4tux
On 9/5/23 01:46, Alan via wsjt-devel
>From: Alan via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
>Since WSJT-X shifts any transmit audio below 1500Hz higher up the spectrum how
>>come we see RX signals on the waterfall below 1500Hz?
>I presume on RX it shifts all signals back down by the same amount as they
>were
Reino, "Signal Optimization" is a better field name , we control the
audio passband frequency window for the best modulation results = Signal.
73
vk4tux
Sam just sent his proposal how to remove the split word in the relation of the
local split usage. There may be no need for a 'two
I think I suggested something similar much earlier in the thread.
However with that new name rig and fake it don't mean anything so I'd
suggest change to hardware and software respectively.
Alan G0TLK, sent from my mobile device
On 8 May 2023 16:37:35 Adrian via wsjt-devel
wrote:
Sam, That
Since WSJT-X shifts any transmit audio below 1500Hz higher up the spectrum
how come we see RX signals on the waterfall below 1500Hz?
I presume on RX it shifts all signals back down by the same amount as they
were shifted up on TX?
Alan G0TLK, sent from my mobile device
On 8 May 2023 15:37:14
> From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
> Much the same as a rig from 50 years ago looks nothing like today --
> including the fact that old rigs had no "split" capability at all and you had
> to use a 2nd transceiver to accomplish the same thing.
> Then
No, leave the split rig/fake checkpoints, as is, but place within a
field/box titled 'Signal Optimization' ,
which should be an easy ui update ?
No need to remove rig split or fake split, because that is what is
activated via CAT.
73
vk4tux
On 9/5/23 01:42, Alan wrote:
I think I
I don't see what the problem is.
When you click "Rig" your rig goes into Split mode -- why would want to confuse
people now with asking "why does my rig go into split mode when I click Rig in
audio optimization".
Fake It is running split on just one VFO.
What we're missing in WSJT-X is the
Sam, That is what I mentioned earlier, however 'Signal Optimization'
makes more sense,
as that is the end result.
73
vk4tux
On 9/5/23 01:28, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:
Hi All,
As a retired software developer with extensive UI development
experience, may I make a suggestion to
Hi All,
As a retired software developer with extensive UI development experience, may I
make a suggestion to whomever is in charge of the UI, to change this part of
the display in Radio Settings tab from what is the current version (left side)
to this new version (right side) and explain its
Much the same as a rig from 50 years ago looks nothing like today -- including
the fact that old rigs had no "split" capability at all and you had to use a
2nd transceiver to accomplish the same thing.Then they added a split button and
operators said "what can I do with this?". And CW split
100%.
I wish the same reasoning was applied to Fox operation. There the Fox can and
often does essentially instruct you, the Hound, to transmit where the Fox’s
receiver passband rolls off.
73,
Clarke K1JX
> On May 8, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> #1 It
Fair enough, they come with keeping the transmit audio frequency centered
in the passband.
"Use optimal transmit audio frequency" then?
Given the huge and often uninformed debates (not only here), avoiding the
s-word would have a lot of value.
Björn SM7IUN
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 4:29 PM Black
#1 It allows you to transmit outside your passband.#2 It avoids roll off of
power at band edges.#3 It avoids non-linearities in the audio digitization.
Mike W9MDB
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 09:13:02 AM CDT, Björn Ekelund via wsjt-devel
wrote:
So what more does it do?
Björn SM7IUN
On
Consistent TX level control, making alc minimum set easier for whole pan
TX usage.
73
vk4tux
On 9/5/23 00:08, Björn Ekelund via wsjt-devel wrote:
So what more does it do?
Björn SM7IUN
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 3:43 PM Black Michael wrote:
That's not the only thing it does so that's not
So what more does it do?
Björn SM7IUN
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 3:43 PM Black Michael wrote:
> That's not the only thing it does so that's not a good choice. Nobody has
> every come up with anything better than Split.
> Let's just learn that Split from 50 years ago has changed and is much more
>
That's not the only thing it does so that's not a good choice. Nobody has
every come up with anything better than Split.Let's just learn that Split from
50 years ago has changed and is much more flexible now than before.
Mike W9MDB
On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 08:37:26 AM CDT, Björn
I propose that the option "Split operation" in the radio settings of WSJT-X
is renamed "Transmit harmonics prevention"
to remove some of the confusion to those who struggle with digital radio
technology.
The three options below should be "I don't care if I QRM the band", "Use
VFO B", and "Use
I've noticed that - at least in FT4/8 - if you enable TX towards
the end of a cycle TX starts inmediately despite it won't have the
time to transmit something useable.
I think it would be helpful if - optionally or not - TX is
prevented to start until the next turn when there isn't enough
On 5/6/2023 10:41 PM, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel wrote:
This start to be really funny!
There's a saying in the States that "you can't argue with a drunk." A
corollary is that it's a waste of time to one who only wants the world
to tell him he's right.
The story related in your post is
On 8/5/23 17:00, Reino Talarmo wrote:
Sent: sunnuntai 7. toukokuuta 2023 23.29
Why would i talk about non wsjtx usage on a wsjtx group ?
It is important to use commonly used words in the same meaning in the ham
community. There are many radio amateurs that have used other modes, some even
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