Re: Triggering the save command

[soundsgoodtome]

On May 10, 2007, at 12:51pm, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:

To be specific, Yojimbo doesn't edit "documents" and as such,  
doesn't have any sort of notion of an unsaved document.



if that's the case, then why does yojimbo have a "save" command at  
all?  :-)


while i understand, semantically, what you're saying, i think the  
bottom line is consistency in the user experience. when i create a  
note in yojimbo, i'm creating a document, whether yojimbo "thinks"  
it's a document or not. the fact that yojimbo auto-saves is  
fantastic! but if i create a note (document) and start typing, until  
yojimbo auto-saves, that document has not been saved.


so i still maintain that the dot should appear until either (a) the  
user saves or (b) yojimbo auto-saves. the dot is simply a visual aid  
for the user, and with all due respect, your rationale does not  
explain why the dot should *not* appear.  :-)  then again, i may have  
missed (or misunderstood) something


-merv

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Triggering the save command

[soundsgoodtome]

last night, while working in a small note window (one of my favorite  
features; thanks!), i discovered that modifying it does not trigger  
the standard, OS X, red-dot indicator for a modified document.


i attempted to include a tiny screen shot, but the list doesn't  
accept attachments. i'm referring to the red, yellow, and green "stop  
light" buttons at the top right of most OS X windows. in most  
applications, modifying a document causes an obvious dot to appear in  
the middle of the red button. i rely upon that dot as a visual  
reminder that i haven't saved. but it's not working in yojimbo -- in  
neither the small nor big window.


i thought that feature was automatically built in to every OS X app  
-- supplied by the OS, itself. but perhaps the developer has to  
"activate" that feature, somehow. i don't know


is this just an oversight, or was it intentionally disabled for some  
reason?


thanks,

-merv

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Re: Dates created and modified

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wow, jim, this is awesome. i'll try it later this evening.

thanks!!
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On May 9, 2007, at 12:25pm, Jim DeVona wrote:


On 5/9/07, Jim DeVona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> the more i think about this issue, i realize that there are many
> documents i will need to change. in fact, for me, it will be
> essentially every document that i import as such, going  
forward,

> it's going to be quite a bit of extra work to manually change the
> dates of each document that i import.

True. This script is best suited to making a few isolated  
corrections.


Ideally, you'd like each newly imported Yojimbo item to inherit the
creation and modification dates of the Finder file it was imported
from, correct? I think it would be feasible to write an import script
that uses this script's code to automatically adjust the date of each
imported item.


Here it is: http://anoved.net/2007/05/backdate-yojimbo-import.html

When you run the script, it'll present a file browser. Choose the
files you want to import. They'll be automatically "backdated" with
the creation and modification dates of the actual files after they're
imported. (As with the other script, you'll still need to restart
Yojimbo before the corrected dates are visible.)

Based on a bit more testing it seems that it is safe to edit backdated
items before restarting Yojimbo. The modification date will be
changed, of course, but the creation date will be untouched.
Nevertheless, I still feel obliged to warn that these scripts use
unsanctioned methods to do their deeds!

Let me know how it goes.
Jim

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Re: Dates created and modified

[soundsgoodtome]

thanks, jim. i really appreciate this.

the more i think about this issue, i realize that there are many  
documents i will need to change. in fact, for me, it will be  
essentially every document that i import as such, going forward,  
it's going to be quite a bit of extra work to manually change the  
dates of each document that i import.


so, to the yojimbo developers: will you consider adding, as a  
preference, the ability to inherit the creation dates of imported  
documents?


-merv
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On May 7, 2007, at 8:48pm, Jim DeVona wrote:


On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


hence, request #1: the ability to edit the creation and modification
dates.

IMHO, registering the date of *import*, as if it were the date of
creation, is simply incorrect. (the date that a pre-existing document
was imported into yojimbo seems completely irrelevant to me, as
opposed to, say, a note that is actually created within yojimbo.)


Hi, folks. I've written a little script to address this idea. It's an
AppleScript called "Backdate Items" that modifies item timestamps
directly in Yojimbo's database. Needless to say, this is an
inadvisably sneaky solution. However, if you'd really like to change
some item creation dates, you may consider it worth the risk.

http://anoved.net/2007/05/backdate-yojimbo-items.html

The script and instructions how to use it are provided at that page.
Note that you do have to restart Yojimbo before timestamp changes are
visible in the program. Again, I can make no guarantees that this
won't cause problems now or in the future (especially with syncing,
which I haven't tested yet). With that in mind, I welcome your
feedback. I've been using it to backdate some of those compositions I
mentioned earlier and everything appears to be working fine.

Be well,
Jim


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Re: More keyboard shortcuts, please!!

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wow. i was completely unaware that you could add application-specific  
shortcuts in that window. talk about hidden features! i stand corrected.


many thanks,

-merv
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On May 5, 2007, at 6:05pm, Jim Correia wrote:


You can add application specific keyboard shorcuts at the bottom of  
the list.


Quit Yojimbo.
Add the shorcts via System Preferences.
Re-launch Yojimbo.

I just added the following for testing:

New Bookmark - Command-Control-B
New Web Archive... - Command-Control-A




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Re: More keyboard shortcuts, please!!

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yes, but to my knowledge, not to yojimbo.  :-)

of course, i can also use quickeys (which i do extensively), but if  
you ever find yourself using an app on another computer, you have to  
do without your custom shortcuts, unless quickeys is also installed  
there and your shortcuts have been imported. so it's nice to learn  
and use an app's built-in shortcuts, wherever possible.


-merv
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On May 5, 2007, at 5:23pm, Jim Correia wrote:


On May 5, 2007, at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

thanks for the tip! i wasn't aware of the command-(1-5) shortcuts  
in the panel. nice!


In addition, you can add keyboard shortcuts via System Preferences - 
> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts.



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Re: More keyboard shortcuts, please!!

[soundsgoodtome]

thanks for the tip! i wasn't aware of the command-(1-5) shortcuts in  
the panel. nice!


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On May 5, 2007, at 4:27pm, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:


in the file menu, of the 5 types of new items -- note, bookmark,  
password, serial number, and web archive -- why does only "new  
note" have a keyboard shortcut? i'm baffled by this. it's more  
efficient never to have to lift one's hands from the keyboard. but  
in yojimbo, the only way to create 4 of the 5 types of documents  
is to either select it from a menubar menu or a button menu.  
please give us more options.  :-)




I type F8 to open the Quick Input panel, and then Command-(1-5) to  
select the correct entry type if our ESP module guesses incorrectly.


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More keyboard shortcuts, please!!

[soundsgoodtome]

in the file menu, of the 5 types of new items -- note, bookmark,  
password, serial number, and web archive -- why does only "new note"  
have a keyboard shortcut? i'm baffled by this. it's more efficient  
never to have to lift one's hands from the keyboard. but in yojimbo,  
the only way to create 4 of the 5 types of documents is to either  
select it from a menubar menu or a button menu. please give us more  
options.  :-)


also, when viewing a smart collection (such as serial numbers) why  
doesn't command-n create a new entry within *that* collection? seems  
to me that it should.


i'd be ok with either philosopy: (a) shortcuts that always create a  
specific type of document, no matter what you're viewing at the time,  
or (b) context-specific shortcuts (i.e., command-n always creates a  
new *something*, depending upon what you're viewing at the time). but  
the latter would only work well if there were also shortcuts for  
jumping among each of the smart collections.  :-)


thanks,

-merv

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Dates created and modified

[soundsgoodtome]

this is a two-part request:

i'm leaning heavily toward yojimbo, after trying out various  
competitors, especially one called "kit." so now, i'd like to  
transfer some items from kit into yojimbo. but when i do, yojimbo  
registers the date of *import* as the date *created*, which causes  
associated documents (such as pdfs that all pertain to one project)  
to appear out of order, when viewing by date. i often view by date so  
i can quickly reference all of the most recent documents -- of  
various types -- within any folder. but yojimbo's current behavior  
prevents this. (of course, i'm referring to pre-existing documents,  
such as pdfs, etc.) so i was hoping that yojimbo's date fields were  
editable -- perhaps in the inspector window -- but alas, they are not.


hence, request #1: the ability to edit the creation and modification  
dates.


IMHO, registering the date of *import*, as if it were the date of  
creation, is simply incorrect. (the date that a pre-existing document  
was imported into yojimbo seems completely irrelevant to me, as  
opposed to, say, a note that is actually created within yojimbo.)


hence, request #2: yojimbo should inherit a pre-existing document's  
original date of creation. or, if some users find the current  
behavior useful, i'd love to see a preference to toggle this behavior.


i don't know if the topic of yojimbo copying vs. pointing to  
documents has already been discussed. for the record, i do wish  
yojimbo simply pointed to documents, rather than making copies of  
them. however, in the absence of that functionality, if yojimbo must  
copy each document, it should inherit the original dates of creation  
(just as the finder does).


please consider this!  :-)

thanks,

-merv

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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

since i'm experiencing this -- with only 19 items in my database, and  
*without* performing any searches -- i'm going to go ahead and write  
support about this issue. if i commit to yojimbo, i'll have hundreds  
of items before too long, and i'm concerned about the issue worsening  
as my database grows.


thanks,

-merv
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On May 3, 2007, at 2:07pm, Jim Correia wrote:

if you are affected by this issue please either takes Steve up on  
his offer, or write to support, so we can diagnose your specific  
problem and log a new issue about it if necessary.

Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

yes, i'm using .mac syncing. that is, i *plan* to. but so far, i only  
have yojimbo installed on one machine. but perhaps the app is still  
communicating with whatever data is stored on .mac. but even when  
i've made no changes to the database -- i'm just opening it to refer  
to documents within -- i get this problem. but i suppose it may still  
be comparing data. i wish it could do so without preventing us from  
interacting with the app


-merv
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On May 3, 2007, at 6:06am, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have  
a problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball  
of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is  
very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with  
the application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and  
i can work.


Are you using .Mac syncing? Typically this happens as Yojimbo is  
catching up with syncs that occurred in the background.


If not, write to me directly, and I have a couple questions that  
might help us narrow it down.


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

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thanks!
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On May 3, 2007, at 5:38am, Patrick Gilmour wrote:

I think the fix is to wait for the next version upgrade - this is a  
common problem ;-)


Hold on in there!



On May 3, 2007, at 8:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello,

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have  
a problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball  
of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is  
very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with  
the application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and  
i can work.


needless to say, this is extremely annoying. i don't launch  
yojimbo at login, so when i do launch it, that means i need to use  
it *then*. but i typically have to wait a minute or so before i can.


why is this happening? or, more specifically, how can i get it to  
*stop* happening?


-merv


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

you may have a point, there. i'm one of those guys who likes to keep  
the number of items in his dock to a minimum. lol. but i can see the  
merits of keeping yojimbo open. still, i'm glad to hear that this  
issue is being investigated and addressed.  :-)

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On May 3, 2007, at 12:45pm, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Best solution i've found is to keep Yj open at all times!


On May 3, 2007, at 15:38 PM, Steven Fernandez wrote:

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want  
to jot down quickly.


Steven



On May 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Mine too - I heard this was a database issue that needed fixing.


On May 3, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Garlock wrote:

My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a  
search.



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SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

hello,

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have a  
problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball of  
death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is very  
difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with the  
application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and i can  
work.


needless to say, this is extremely annoying. i don't launch yojimbo  
at login, so when i do launch it, that means i need to use it *then*.  
but i typically have to wait a minute or so before i can.


why is this happening? or, more specifically, how can i get it to  
*stop* happening?


-merv

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