Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-08 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
gt; So, by convention, we should post the hashes of those files here right > away, and make a best effort to mirror them publicly (each one is like > a gigabyte, I think). > > What does the initial challenge file consist of? Could you post the > hash of it here? > > Cheers, >

Re: [zapps-wg] Test challenge generation + verifiers

2017-11-09 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I've posted two new utilities to the repository: * a `new` tool which constructs the initial challenge file * a `verify_transform` tool which loads the `challenge` and `response` files, performs verification, and outputs a `new_challenge` file Sean On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Peter Todd via

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-10 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
e it's also the case that >>> a) The "response" file from each person is roughly the same as the >>> "challenge" file for the next participant, and >>> b) The response/challenge files are safe to be published at any time, >>> no

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-11 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
= > > I took the USB stick and transferred the response file to my laptop, and then > uploaded it using the laptop to S3 via Sean Bowe's transcript site. > > I did not destroy the compute node but I'm unlikely to use it or plug it in > for > some time. > -- > Ja

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-11 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Kobi Gurkan (from QED-it) wishes to go after cody. I'll double-check later. On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:12 AM, cody burns wrote: > I will go after the unnamed party. > > > On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 3:21 AM Sean Bowe via zapps-wg > wrote: >> >> All is verified and mir

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-11 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
> the >> monitor at this point. After 60 minutes had passed, I looked inside the lid >> and saw that the computation had completed, so I wrote down the BLAKE2b hash, >> and unmounted and removed the USB stick, and then powered the node down. >> >> Postprocessing &

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-12 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
27;d like to be added to the queue. Happy to go after Cody unless there are > others already lined up. > > > --- > Matt Drollette > > On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Sean Bowe via zapps-wg > wrote: >> >> Thanks Jared! Awesome! I've verified the contr

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-12 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Cody unless there are >> others already lined up. >> >> >> --- >> Matt Drollette >> >> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Sean Bowe via zapps-wg >> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Jared! Awesome! I've verified the contribution and put your >&g

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-12 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Also, >> Kobi doesn't have time right now, so it's Matt's turn! >> >> Sean >> >> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Sean Bowe wrote: >> > Cody is going but I haven't heard back in a while. In let's say about >> > five hours i

[zapps-wg] Eliminating the possibility of backdoors with high probability

2017-11-13 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
There are three ways that a participants' toxic waste can be compromised: 1. the participant is dishonest and keeps the toxic waste around 2. the toxic waste is extracted from the machine, either from a side channel attack or because the toxic waste still "exists" in the machine somewhere 3. the p

Re: [zapps-wg] Eliminating the possibility of backdoors with high probability

2017-11-13 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
;s challenge should be made public. That's very interesting. Right now the transcript is public and so the current challenge can be computed by anyone, but it would be a little better if I put the "current" challenge file up for download. Sean On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:22 PM,

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony Proposal

2017-11-14 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
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[zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-14 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
There were some people who wanted to participate in Powers of Tau but won't be available until at least Friday. So we're looking for volunteers to fill in until Thursday! Sean

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-15 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Okay, Hudson Jameson would like to go next. Then, someone else is prepared to go but I'm not sure they want me to say their name publicly yet. On Saturday, Robert Hackett from Fortune requested to be able to participate. Go ahead and post if you'd like to go and when you'd be available. Sean On

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-15 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
The person who "I wasn't sure if they wanted me to say their name" is Eric L. Stromberg. Sean On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Sean Bowe wrote: > Okay, Hudson Jameson would like to go next. Then, someone else is > prepared to go but I'm not sure they want me to say their name > publicly yet. > >

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
evening Hong > Kong time (~ 30 h from now) if there is a slot. > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 9:43 AM Sean Bowe via zapps-wg > wrote: >> >> The person who "I wasn't sure if they wanted me to say their name" is >> Eric L. Stromberg. >> >> Sea

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! > Eric > >> On Nov 16, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Sean Bowe via zapps-wg >> wrote: >> >> Currently: >> >> Hudson is going. >> Eric requested to go afterwards, but if they're quick (or not >> available) I should be able to fit Cody in. &g

Re: [zapps-wg] Version of Rust

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I think it is the current version (1.21). I imagine it would be possible to modify the code (and many of the dependencies) so that it could compile on a really old version too. Sean On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Devrandom via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Do you know what is the oldest versi

Re: [zapps-wg] Eliminating the possibility of backdoors with high probability

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
> Oh, I might have misunderstood the paper then: when it says "Random beacon" it > really does mean an external random beacon such as the NIST Randomness Beacon, > not something generated within the ceremony itself? Indeed. The ceremony itself cannot be a source of randomness or it would be vulner

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks Hudson! :) Eric finished but hasn't posted their attestation yet. Now it's Cody's turn. Sean On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Hudson Jameson via zapps-wg wrote: > I have finished the report and made a PR in the attestations repo: > https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/powersoftau-attestati

Re: [zapps-wg] Who's next? (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
e to level zero, and > then > uploaded it using the laptop to the aws s3 site from my phone using tor over > airport wifi and posted the image hash on twitter as well as the mailing > list > > image: ipfs/QmZkVPctuTTDbNfT5fM3aYbDPwBB9hMFjBDSRhNswNx9j3 > - - -- > Cody Burns, CodyWBurns.com > … > >

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation next week

2017-11-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Great! It's definitely possible to fit you in next week. :) Sean On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Gabor Losonci via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to participate on the next week, some day after UTC 9pm. Many > thanks Gabor >

Re: [zapps-wg] Volunteering for Powers of Tau

2017-11-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sure! Should be plenty of time next week to participate. Sean On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Adam Nagel via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to volunteer for the ceremony, and am available next week. > > Regards, > Adam Nagel

Re: [zapps-wg] available to go

2017-11-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Cool! I'll get you in this coming week. Sean On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Tommaso Pellizzari via zapps-wg wrote: >

Re: [zapps-wg] Attestation no. 9 (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thank you! It's always good to have witnesses of the process. Here's the full roster of participants this week. More volunteers are welcome, just send a request to the mailing list! Michael Dixon (Sunday) -- disclosure: a personal friend of mine! :) Adrian (Sunday) [CAN'T SAY] Gabor Alyssa (Tuesd

Re: [zapps-wg] Attestation no. 9 (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-19 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Miguel Angel Marco Buzunariz wished to go today (Sunday) but I didn't notice their email. I think we could have room in the queue today though, depending on how long Michael/Adrian take. Sean On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Sean Bowe wrote: > Thank you! It's always good to have witnesses of the

Re: [zapps-wg] Attestation no. 10 (Powers of Tau)

2017-11-20 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! Adrian just went too but hasn't posted an attestation yet. Right now it's Marco's turn since he got lost in the schedule over the weekend. Then, tomorrow it's Alyssa from Coindesk's turn. :) Sean On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Michael Dixon via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [zapps-wg] Attestation No 12

2017-11-20 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Looking good! I've added this response file to the transcript and will update the attestation repo soon. I am letting someone see if they can contribute tonight before Alyssa tomorrow, but if they can't we'll just move on to Alyssa. Sean On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Miguel Angel Marco Buzuna

Re: [zapps-wg] Request for permission to join Tao Ceremony

2017-11-21 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Yes! :) What times of day / days of week work best for you? There's a bit of a queue that we're moving through. Sean On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Rudi Cilibrasi via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi, > > I was a contributor to the Tromp equihash solver. I want to find out if I > might be allowed to parti

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 15

2017-11-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I'm verifying your contribution. Note that the `powersoftau` code, unmodified, does not act determinisically with the random input provided by the user, so: > - - Revealing the randomness in the unused response, after the compute node > had > been shut down, should make it possible to

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 15

2017-11-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
The contribution I got from Jack is corrupted; not the same hash as in Jack's attestation, and one of the points inside of it does not lie on the curve. I suspect data corruption, especially since Jack's internet connection was unreliable. I have another person scheduled about 7 hours from now, so

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 15

2017-11-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
By the way, the BLAKE2b hash of the corrupted response file is 7d90a636ba0448245cadb7fde245e2f9b0556948b54f8eab51f32f1d7dbefcfdfcfe1eb9a392dac9f0b4a189295af43d9284b1b674a5908edc250cdfda5b7e63. Sean On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Sean Bowe wrote: > The contribution I got from Jack is corrupted

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2017-11-23 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! Excellent job. > In an effort to overwrite the RAM and run out the battery, I started two > instances of `cargo test`. Clever. :) Sean On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Adam Nagel via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Powers of Tau Participation Wr

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2017-11-23 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Wonderful! Thank you so much! Sean On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Gabor Losonci via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Linux localhost.localdomain 3.10.0-693.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 22 21:09:27 > UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > bba314624956961a2

Re: [zapps-wg] Scheduling myself for Powers of Tau

2017-11-24 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I think 27th will work great. I prefer it when people have extra time (rather than just "an evening") so that they don't feel rushed. This also tends to take way longer than an evening on average, I've found. Sean On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Zaki Manian via zapps-wg wrote: > Hey Sean, > > M

Re: [zapps-wg] Request to join MPC ceremony

2017-11-25 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
You're next! :) Sean On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Neal Conner via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, > > Please consider this my request to join the MPC ceremony. > > I've made the necessary preparations and can compute within 24 hours of > receiving the challenge file, including today if a slot is av

Re: [zapps-wg] Requesting a slot

2017-11-25 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Cool. Now you're next! Sean On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Adam Langley via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > I'll be around all of tomorrow (Sunday) during normal PST hours. I can > likely participate similarly during the week, albeit with slightly more >

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2017-11-26 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thank you so much! I've added your attestation. Sean On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Adam Langley via zapps-wg wrote: > Signed report attached. Contents reproduced below. Thanks for > organising this and scheduling me! > > > > Date: 2017-11-26 > Name: Adam Langley > Location: Los Angeles, USA >

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation request

2017-11-30 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sounds good! I'll ping you when it's your turn. Sean On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Justin Drake via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi there, > > I'd like to participate in the ceremony :) > > I'm based in the UK, and Dec 4, 5 or 6 would work well for me. > > Best, > Justin >

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 23 attestation

2017-12-04 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks Justin! I've added this to the transcript. :) Sean On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Justin Drake via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Powers of Tau Operational Writeup > = > > Round: 23 > Date: 2017-12-04 > Name: Justin

Re: [zapps-wg] Trusted Rust build process is ready for evaluation

2017-12-05 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Excellent work! :) new, compute, verify_transform is a good demonstration. I would verify_transform with a binary compiled with the normal Rust compiler to double-check. Sean On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Devrandom wrote: > Hi all, > > I was able to build rustc completely from sources. This

Re: [zapps-wg] Trusted Rust build process is ready for evaluation

2017-12-05 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
That would be nice! What other obstacles are there for fully deterministic builds? It seems like it would be a good idea to toss a few features in (like that one) and make some kind of "release" binaries for people to use which have been scrutinized and built in this reproducible way. I hopefully

Re: [zapps-wg] Ready to participate in MPC

2017-12-07 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sounds good! I'll send you some instructions this weekend. Sean On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Mine Zcash via zapps-wg wrote: > I will be ready to start this Saturday or Sunday if nobody is in line.

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in next MPC round

2017-12-13 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Absolutely! By "next Friday, Saturday or Sunday" do you mean over the next 3 or 4 days or next week? Sean On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Fabrice MARCHAL via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to participate in MPC. > > My compute node is ready and i fully tested the computing process.

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in next MPC round

2017-12-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! This has been entered into the transcript. Feel free to submit a PR to: https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/powersoftau-attestations to add any additional context for your attestation. Sean On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Fabrice MARCHAL wrote: > > Powers of Tau Operational Writeup >

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in MPC Ceremony

2017-12-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sounds great! I'll ping you Monday. Sean On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Gareth Davies via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to join the MPC ceremony. I am available to participate on any > day during the next week depending on when it would be required. > > Cheers, > > Gareth

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in next MPC round

2017-12-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I've updated your attestation. Sean On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Fabrice MARCHAL wrote: > > Hi Sean, > I just noticed that my built-in webmail signing option didn't signed my > email as expected. In order to do the right thing I prefer to send again my > report, this time as a real P

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in MPC Ceremony

2017-12-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! Accepted your contribution. :) On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Gareth Davies via zapps-wg wrote: > Assuming everything went well I’ve also opened a PR on the > powersoftau-attestations repo to add my contribution. > > Cheers, > > Gareth > > > On December 18, 2017 at 11:58:35 AM, Gareth D

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 27 attestation

2017-12-20 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I've updated the transcript repo now. Sean On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:35 AM, kylr via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Powers of Tau Operational Writeup > = > > Round: 27 > Date: 2017-12-18 > Name: kylr > > sha256sum c

Re: [zapps-wg] I'd like to participate

2017-12-24 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Of course not! Boris would you like to go next? And then Tony? Sean 2017-12-23 18:55 GMT-07:00 Tony Arcieri via zapps-wg : > Ditto > > -- > Tony Arcieri

Re: [zapps-wg] Round 28 attestation

2017-12-26 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Excellent! I've updated the transcript with this contribution. Sean On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 4:37 PM, SuperKerem via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Powers of Tau Operational Writeup, Round 28 > === > > SuperKerem > 2

Re: [zapps-wg] I'd like to participate

2018-01-02 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I couldn't get a hold of Boris so I'm moving on to Tony. Sean On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Sean Bowe wrote: > Of course not! Boris would you like to go next? And then Tony? > > Sean > > 2017-12-23 18:55 GMT-07:00 Tony Arcieri via zapps-wg > : >> Ditto >> >> -- >> Tony Arcieri

Re: [zapps-wg] Second phase of ceremony

2018-01-02 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
We don't have a schedule for that yet, but I would suspect in 2 or 3 months. Sean On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Adrian Brink via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi, > > Zaki told me about the second phase of the ceremony. When is that one > starting? > > On 2 Jan 2018 19:57,

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau contribution

2018-01-02 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Great! I've verified it and I'm entering it in the transcript now. It is totally okay if you don't want to use GPG, and this is acceptable. Thanks! Sean On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Tony Arcieri via zapps-wg wrote: > I have finished running Powers of Tau. Here is the output: > > The BLAKE2b

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau participation + zk proof question

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
> I'd like to participate in the setup ceremony. Great! I'll be in touch. > {(a) : A = a * G, B = H(a)} Are you constrained by the choice of H and/or the curve? Sean On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:47 PM, James Prestwich via zapps-wg wrote: > I'd like to participate in the setup ceremony. > > I als

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau participation + zk proof question

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
If any curve is acceptable, I would encourage Jubjub, which we'll be using for the next version of Zcash. In which case you will be able to leverage our Sapling crypto code once it is more mature over the next month or so. https://github.com/zcash-hackworks/sapling-crypto Sean On Wed, Jan 3, 2018

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau participation + zk proof question

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I believe those gadgets are specifically for curves where the scalar field is the base field of the curve you're working with, so they probably wouldn't be that useful for arbitrary fields. Most of the complexity here is the bignum arithmetic inside the circuit, though. > Is there any more clever

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation request

2018-01-04 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I've added this contribution to the transcript as round 30. Sean On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Junajpu via zapps-wg wrote: > Attestation: > > Downloaded the version of https://github.com/ebfull/powersoftau based on the > last commit: > d47a1d3 on 16 Nov 2017 > > Followed the README.md

Re: [zapps-wg] Request to participate in the Powers of Tau

2018-01-04 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Cool! Would you like to go on Saturday? Sean On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Brian via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi! > > I would love to participate in this new MPC ceremony. I can do it any > day, just let me know a couple of days before. My time zone is UTC-8. > > Thanks, > pera >

Re: [zapps-wg] Request to participate in the Powers of Tau ceremony

2018-01-04 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Okay, you shall go next. :) Sean On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:43 AM, Lazlo via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to participate in the Powers of Tau ceremony. > > Best regards, > Lazlo

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2018-01-07 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I've added this to the transcript. Sean On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Brian via zapps-wg wrote: > Powers of Tau Operational Writeup > = > Date: 2018-01-06 > Name: Brian Gomes Bascoy > Location: Seattle, WA, USA > > Challenge: > bdfadf02e016d8fac9a77659ce

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation request

2018-01-07 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Roger! I think you'll need to go Monday though. Sean On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Andrew Miller via zapps-wg wrote: > Bump for Nick to go soon! > > On Jan 4, 2018 8:29 PM, "Nick Sullivan via zapps-wg" > wrote: >> >> I'd like to participate when there's a free slot. >> >> Nick

Re: [zapps-wg] Trusted Rust build process is ready for evaluation

2018-01-08 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Hi, I've been quite busy with holidays, work and being sick. :( I'd like to get around to writing some instructions for the ceremony that encourage people to consider using your work, so reviewing it is one of my priorities. I'll find a time to do that soon. Sean On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:27 AM,

Re: [zapps-wg] Trusted Rust build process is ready for evaluation

2018-01-08 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
One quick comment from glancing: use --frozen in your invocation of cargo to prohibit network access and sort of "test" that the dependencies were vendored correctly. I was pretty satisfied when looking at trust-rust before. Obviously the non-determinism sucks, but given how much the rust compiler

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Contribution

2018-01-08 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I added this to the transcript, thank you! :) Sean On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:09 AM, James Prestwich via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > I've finshed running the powers of tau contriubtion, and uploaded the > response. > > $ sha256sum challenge > 85a1f6af39

Re: [zapps-wg] Participate in Powers of Tau ceremony

2018-01-14 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sure! I'll be in touch. Sean On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Bastien Teinturier via zapps-wg wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm interested in participating to the Powers of Tau ceremony. > Is there a free slot anytime soon? > > Cheers, > Bastien

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation in Powers of Tau

2018-01-14 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Great! I'll be in touch. Sean On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Mark Giannullo via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to participate in the ceremony, when there is an opportunity. I > will have my setup prepared by tomorrow afternoon (EST) at the latest. > > Thanks in advance, > Mark Giann

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Ceremony

2018-01-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Great! I'll be in touch. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Jacob Lyles via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'd like to participate in the ZCash Powers of Tau ceremony. As far as > crypto cred goes, I was an author of the glacier protocol > (https://glacierprotocol.org/), a bitcoin enthusiast s

Re: [zapps-wg] PowTau best times

2018-01-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sounds good, I'll be in touch this weekend. Sean On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:58 PM, autotunafish--- via zapps-wg wrote: > Hello, my name is John Bruhling. I was hoping to participate, the best times > for me would be Saturday and Sunday evening. Thank you, let me know if you > need any more inform

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau participation

2018-01-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Cool, we'll get you in likely early next month then. Sean On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Jan Jancar via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi all, > I would like to participate in the Powers of Tau ceremony. I have a > compute node ready, am in the UTC +2 timezone, and generally available > until the 22.01.201

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Round 38 Attestation

2018-01-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thank you! Another fun attestation. :) Sean On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Ryan Close via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Powers of Tau Attestation > = > > Round: 38 > Date: 2018-1-17 > Name: Ryan Close > Location: Florida, US > >

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau

2018-01-17 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
It does interfere with someone, but we could make it work Saturday morning if you don't expect it to take longer than the morning. Sean On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:18 PM, Andrew Miller via zapps-wg wrote: > Greetings everyone, >I have a good one planned. But it's got a difficult time constrain

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2018-01-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
This is great! I've entered it into the transcript. Thanks! Sean On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Bastien Teinturier via zapps-wg < zapps...@lists.z.cash.foundation> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Powers of Tau Attestation > > > Da

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau participation request

2018-01-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Sounds good! I'll be in touch. Sean On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:47 AM, Gabe Ortiz via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi, I’d like to participate. I can go anytime next week between 9am and 5pm > MST. > > -Gabe

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau

2018-01-20 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Verified and added to transcript. Looking forward to additional info! Sean On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Miller, Andrew wrote: > Here's our response, should be done uploading to s3 in a moment. > 9af2153b5d0f96689f79049337de1fb328873f5f771adef1adf0486e4904b28d96fe602c8866f42e8047ce3bdafe2f9e

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2018-01-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
There are potentially few useful entropy sources on an isolated system with its peripherals removed that has just booted (for example), so a cat walking across the keyboard can be used to strengthen the randomness at little cost. It's mostly defense-in-depth. Sean On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 1:59 AM,

Re: [zapps-wg] Participation in MPC process

2018-01-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Hi, I have people scheduled for both of those dates. If there are other dates that you'll be available let me know. Sean On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Team Zcash FR via zapps-wg wrote: > Hi, > We would like to participate to MPC as Zcash FR team (https://zcashfr.io) > We are 3 and or process

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau

2018-01-24 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
This is excellent! I'm so impressed. I've added this to the transcript. Thanks, Sean On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Filippo Valsorda via zapps-wg wrote: > The BLAKE2b hash of `./response` is: > 7b55c0f5 68a8b4df 2ca14085 2e816df2 > b9a2dafe 50b2c5e2 5e6c9b6a df239de0 >

Re: [zapps-wg] The Go implementation of Powers of Tau

2018-01-28 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Great work on this. I wonder if this implementation will be a better foundation for fully-deterministic and trustworthy builds? I am disappointed that devrandom's efforts were stymied by non-determinism in the Rust compiler. :( Sean On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Filippo Valsorda via zapps-wg

Re: [zapps-wg] The Go implementation of Powers of Tau

2018-01-28 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
; About the mrustc work that I've done - I don't think the lack of determinism > is a showstopper. It just means that contributors have to compile from > source, which is time consuming. Perhaps there was some miscommunication > about that? > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation 48

2018-02-01 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Awesome job, thank you so much. :) By the way, the challenge file that Gabe used is located here: https://powersoftau-transcript.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/challenge.48 I'd be curious to see why Filippo's Go code can't deserialize it. Maybe a platform specific bug? Sean On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation by Gսѕtavо Frеdегіc೦

2018-02-06 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks Gustavo! I've entered this into the transcript. Sean On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Gustavo Frederico via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Powers of Tau Attestation by Gսѕtavо Frеdегіc೦ > - -- > > Date: 5/

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2018-02-08 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Excellent! Verified it. Adding to transcript now. Sean On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Mark Giannullo via zapps-wg wrote: > I completed the challenge using Filippo's golang implementation: > https://github.com/FiloSottile/powersoftau > > The BLAKE2b hash of `./response` is: > a6a754d8 68697ff0

[zapps-wg] Switching Coordinators

2018-02-09 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello! We have a new coordinator for the Powers of Tau. Jason Davies is a member of the Zcash community and has been mirroring and verifying response files as the ceremony has been ongoing. I'm happy to announce that I'm passing the coordinator role

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation 54

2018-02-09 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I love this! Very detailed and I was happy that someone managed to leverage the next-challenge stuff locally during the ceremony. Thank you! Sean On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Jan Jancar via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Powers of Tau attestation > ==

[zapps-wg] Randomness Beacon

2018-02-15 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
The Powers of Tau security proof (see https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1050) holds in the "random beacon model," meaning that we must apply a random beacon at the end of the ceremony. It's not good enough to use (say) a hash of the transcript, because of adaptive attacks (the last participant could pre

Re: [zapps-wg] Powers of Tau attestation (disturbedsquirrel)

2018-02-15 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Awesome! I was excited for yours since you seemed like you were very paranoid. Sean On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:58 PM, disturbedsquirrel--- via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > ### > > Powers of Tau attestat

Re: [zapps-wg] Randomness Beacon

2018-02-16 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
too evident if the > maximum reported temperature differs more than a few degrees to the one that > people actually experienced in that place). > > > El viernes, 16 de febrero de 2018 0:37:05 (CET) Sean Bowe via zapps-wg > escribió: >> The Powers of Tau security proof (see >

[zapps-wg] Powers of Tau Attestation

2018-02-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
I participated in the Powers of Tau ceremony, and here's my response file hash (BLAKE2b): db1eb34d 1f153f0e 32b287d7 4e7a81a2 49257944 5f9df1c4 7daf3fcd a7f3200a 2ab664b3 3c2b7dbc 1f46758f 4b1eb840 ff6afdaf 6e488849 88e4a0fa 504f5ad8 I used an auditable process to ensure (with high probability) t

[zapps-wg] Cut-off date for Powers of Tau Contributions

2018-03-05 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
We're almost finished with the Powers of Tau ceremony! On March 15 no new contributions will be accepted. If you still want to participate, you will need to contact Jason Davies ASAP and arrange for a time. I'll be making an announcement about the random beacon soon. Thanks, Sean

Re: [zapps-wg] Cut-off date for Powers of Tau Contributions

2018-03-09 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
the BLS12-381 curve. If there is any interest in conducting Powers of >> Tau for larger circuit sizes, or for different curves (such as the alt_bn128 >> supported in Ethereum), then the Foundation would support that too. Although >> someone would have to adapt Sean's or FiloSotti

Re: [zapps-wg] Cut-off date for Powers of Tau Contributions

2018-03-09 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
As far as security goes, we've successfully guarded against all but the most elaborate and unrealistic attack scenarios. The remaining threats require some combinatorial explosion of individually sophisticated attacks or breakthroughs, like stealthy backdoors in the Rust compiler and still for many

Re: [zapps-wg] ANN: Snarky (OCaml DSL for writing SNARKs)

2018-03-13 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
This is _very_ cool, thanks for sharing it with us! It looks like the best DSL for R1CS that I've ever seen. I encourage you to also share this with the Bitcoin community (bitcoin-dev mailing list.) Bulletproofs support R1CS as well. Have you written a SHA256 gadget with this library? Sean On M

[zapps-wg] Random Beacon Announcement

2018-03-18 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Attached is the (signed) announcement of the random beacon. Also, it's been timestamped using OpenTimestamps. Sean -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, I covered the random beacon in a previous post on the mailing list: https://lists.z.cash.foundation/pipermail/zapps-wg/2018/

Re: [zapps-wg] Random Beacon Announcement

2018-03-22 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
M -0600, Sean Bowe via zapps-wg wrote: >> Attached is the (signed) announcement of the random beacon. >> >> Also, it's been timestamped using OpenTimestamps. > > It's important to note that the OTS proof added little, if any, security to > this random beacon, for t

Re: [zapps-wg] Attestation

2018-03-25 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Thanks! I confirmed that you are John Dobbertin from the original ceremony. Sean On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 7:19 PM, John Dobbertin via zapps-wg wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > Based on my participation in the original ceremony, I was invited to return > for this r

[zapps-wg] Completion of the Powers of Tau

2018-04-12 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey everyone, I'm proud to announce that the Powers of Tau ceremony has been concluded. The final parameters are available over BitTorrent: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/powersoftau-transcript/powersoftau.torrent SHA256: phase1radix2m0: d8a87

[zapps-wg] Sapling MPC

2018-05-03 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Zcash's Sapling upgrade is coming, and we're doing an MPC for its zk-SNARK parameters. This MPC uses the Powers of Tau parameters to construct parameters for three different circuits: a Sprout circuit, and two Sapling circuits (one for inputs, one for outputs). The code for participating (and veri

Re: [zapps-wg] Sapling MPC

2018-06-07 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
5/03/2018 09:43 PM, Sean Bowe via zapps-wg wrote: >> Zcash's Sapling upgrade is coming, and we're doing an MPC for its >> zk-SNARK parameters. This MPC uses the Powers of Tau parameters to >> construct parameters for three different circuits: a Sprout circuit, >>

[zapps-wg] Sapling MPC Random Beacon

2018-08-02 Thread Sean Bowe via zapps-wg
Please see the attached random beacon announcement. Sean -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all! I'm happy to announce that the Zcash "Sapling" MPC is nearly finished! I'd like to thank the roughly 94 participants that contributed their time and effort to making Zcash safer. I'

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