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2011/1/6 Markus Korn :
> @Siegfried, how do you want to identify a template in the collection of
> all templates, for example, what do you propose as an argument for the
> RemoveTemplate() method?
Sending the template (like we're doing now) would be an option. If
you're not happy with that, we cou
@Siegfried, how do you want to identify a template in the collection of
all templates, for example, what do you propose as an argument for the
RemoveTemplate() method?
Do you want automatically generated identifier (e.g. auto-integer-id,
maybe in combination with sender string)? or do you have a s
I still don't see why blacklist templates would need a
manually-constructed identifier...
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My first idea related to RegEx based matches was that I thought we need
something very powerful there. But maybe I'm wrong, So I'm happy to
change my proposal there and only allow prefix-search and negation. And
if we need something more powerful later on we can always change it.
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Please let me explain how I see the whole 'identifier' story:
I don't think we need a identifier which tells us which client set an certain
blacklist, simply because the client which sets a blacklist might not be
related to the actual purpose of this blacklist, let me give you an example:
A cale
My first thought was also "Why regexes, glob patterns would do the
trick", so I'm with Mikkel on this one. Overall I think it's what we
agreed on with some polishing (the enum in the signal, great
formalization of everything...), therefore I'm fine with it.
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Seif Lotfy
<612...@bugs.launchpad.net>wrote:
> While I actually like Markus's proposal alot (kudos on the awesome work) I
> am kind of hesitant on the BlacklistTemplateIdentifier. I feel more
> comfortable using an identifier like "actor/#uid" as in
> "application:/
One thing I am missing here and maybe its too new for the proposal is
temporary blacklists. Such as:
Don't log for the next 20 minutes. Don't log Documents from 19.7 - 19.8
etc... I don't see this option at all in our current API ideas.
While I actually like Markus's proposal alot (kudos on the aw
On 6 January 2011 10:43, Markus Korn wrote:
> After re-reading this bugreport, the discussion it includes and the merge
> proposal, I'm still not confident that the API which is proposed here is good
> enough. This is why I started working on a blacklist API spec.
> It is still work in progress,
After re-reading this bugreport, the discussion it includes and the merge
proposal, I'm still not confident that the API which is proposed here is good
enough. This is why I started working on a blacklist API spec.
It is still work in progress, and I'm not sure if this points in the right
direct
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So the final consensus is that the parameter s is any randomly chosen
identifier for an application.
* GetBlacklists() -> ({sE})
* AddBlacklist(sE) --> Changed(sE)
* RemoveBlacklist(sE) --> Changed(sE)
I changed the name to Blacklist instead of Template for the method names
as it sounds better a
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> Let 'E' define the event dbus signature.
>
> Methods:
> - GetTemplates() -> ({sE})
> - AddTemplate(s, E)
> - RemoveTemplate(s)
> Signals:
> - Changed({sE})
> Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist
> names.
> Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the
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At some point people will need to blacklist over Unity. I think that should be
taken in consideration in the new design and development cycle.
Example: What if I don't want my .py files to show up in Unity
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I postponed the bug to 0.7
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thekorn> it sucks, maybe. but do we need a new API for this, that's what I'm
not sure about
thekorn, u can see mhr3 and kamstrup got into the details of it
they wrote the whoel api actually
seiflotfy: look into #ubuntu-classroom
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thekorn: what we should really add
Meh, type in last comment
scrap "This can be possible since people don't want fine grained privacy"
I meant
This can be possible since many people do want fine grained privacy
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If we had huge number of blacklists. This can be possible since people don't
want fine grained privacy. We can set the default modes and give them option.
E.g. For chrome, we will log all the events in normal browsing and no logging
in incognito mode. Additionally people sometimes watch pr0n in n
Go Manish! Go Manish! Its your birthday :P
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@Manish: Right, that will clear all blacklists I am afraid. Which is
also partially why we have this bug open to come up with something which
is easier for apps to handle.
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2010/9/10 Manish Sinha <612...@bugs.launchpad.net>:
> Will this clear all the blacklists? I just want to remove one specific
> blacklist
Ask for the list of blacklisting rules, remove the one you don't want
from it, and set it again (with that rule removed).
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Mikkel
Will this clear all the blacklists? I just want to remove one specific
blacklist
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(Note for people looking for ways to clear the blacklist with the
currently released API: Just SetBlacklist([]))
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On 5 August 2010 23:04, Siegfried Gevatter wrote:
> 2010/8/5 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen :
>> Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist
>> names. Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the blacklist
>> template epiphany install when you enter private mode.
>
> Wh
2010/8/5 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen :
> Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist
> names. Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the blacklist
> template epiphany install when you enter private mode.
Why would it use blacklisting for that? The extension should
So if we have 10 clients monitoring the blacklist the daemon it will
result in 10 GetTemplates() calls on the bus? ;-) How about putting the
new list of templates in the Changed() signal? That way there'll be no
extra noise on the buzz when the list changes.
Anyway, I am still not entirely convinc
Ok, as mentioned in the first post I'd suggest this:
[org.gnome.zeitgeist.Blacklist] inteface:
Methods:
- GetTemplates() -> (Array of Events)
- AddTemplate(Event)
- RemoveTemplate(Event)
Signals:
- Changed()
A few notes: templates must be unique, adding the same template twice
will result in
I suggest you post a full API draft before implementing this. We have
the current (admittedly not-so-good) API because it was hard coming up
with a nice API for this.
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