--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Margie,
You wrote:
Am I the only one who is struck funny that a writer (me) is having a
text-only discussion about the difficulties and uselessness of words!?
I know you are a recent participant to this forum, but this is a
Hi Bill-
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. Margie, Did you enjoy the dessert?
Enjoy it?! If you keep on like this I'll get very fat! Like those
Chinese statues of Buddha...
Time to do dishes!
Margie (roloro1557)
Current
reality comes in on little cat feet
or bolts of lightning
it plays across the strings of violins
and drives to the bakery for a loaf of bread
it trickles down faces in tears
and lurks in the dirt on the rug
it moves in the wagging tail of a dog
or finds a voice in the song of a bird
Margie
Bill,
Are you living in Thailand now? If so may I ask what you are doing
there?
I do have one small quibble with your post below. I think it most
likely that both Gautama and Jesus were actual historical figures,
Jesus certainly so (after all his and his family's ossuary have been
Anthony,
The error is thinking of some future reward or punishment, or lack of
it for our actions in the present moment. That is the error since the
present moment is all that ever exists it must always be sufficient
in itself. If one lives one's life that way your question vanishes
and
JM,
Good post. Total agreement. Empty yourself and you will be filled.
Edgar
On Oct 4, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Al, Chan is the universal life force and wisdom. It provides life
and all the nutrients to support us, equally to everyone of us without
preference.
Bill and Margie,
Here is my response describing satori in words:
:-)
Edgar
On Oct 4, 2008, at 5:03 AM, roloro1557 wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Margie,
You wrote:
Am I the only one who is struck funny that a writer (me) is
having a
ZEN MASTER
Zen Master
dancing and giggling
while the world dies
smiling
while the world screams
sitting in satori
while countless beings
suffer the tortures
of their oppressors
Zen Master
wincing at a thorn
Note, most people misinterpret this poem to be a put down of Zen. Not
2/10/06 PEEING AT NIGHT
At midnight I take my dog out to pee
The moon has gone and we see our breaths
The smell of tomorrow’s snow hangs in the air
Lights flicker on the far side of the lake
Unexpectedly over the far hill we hear coyotes singing
And we raise our cries in answer
Edgar
Margie,
Truly excellent poem! Pure Zen!
Thanks,
Edgar
On Oct 4, 2008, at 6:34 AM, roloro1557 wrote:
reality comes in on little cat feet
or bolts of lightning
it plays across the strings of violins
and drives to the bakery for a loaf of bread
it trickles down faces in tears
and lurks in
Agreed Edgar!
I know I wasted much time and energy on counting breaths for
months. Then switching to concentrating on the 'rising and falling'
of the diaphram. Then 'in and out' with breath. Then working chakras.
Then mantras. And different sitting positions and different hand
positions. I
Hi Margie,
I love your poem! The objective nature of it makes it full of zen. I hope you
don't mind but I've taken the liberty of writing a commentary to each line just
for fun :) Mike.
reality comes in on little cat feet (and takes flight when big dog feet notice)
or bolts of lightning
Hi Edgar,
I won't paraphrase. It's not the mind that moves. Mike.
- Original Message
From: Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 5 October, 2008 3:38:25
Subject: Re: [Zen] @
Mike,
To paraphrase a Zen master, it's neither the car nor the
I know, I considered myself an atheist from about 1968-1983 and shock of
shocks, I didn't rape a single person then. And believe it or not, I didn't
murder anyone either. A LOT higher percentage of my atheist friends I would
consider highly ethical or moral or whatever word de jour you want to
Hi Edgar-
Ah, marvelous poem. And your point that most people think it's a put
down of zen reminds me... I've had a lot of people tell me there are
too many contradictions in zen and this always makes me laugh.
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Edgar-
Cousins or siblings or fellow aliens, we remind me of the story Alan
Watts tells of how when two zennists meet walking down an alley they
immediately know each other. . . Thank you, and I am really enjoying
reading your posts and poems :-)
Margie (roloro1557)
--- In
Hello Bob,
I always find it ironic when I hear that the only reason why people have
morals is because of a fear of God.
I remember when my nephew was traveling around Europe. He left his bag on
the floor next to him at the airport in Israel for 5 minutes and it was
gone. Israel is the home
Margie,
Now this is really excellent! This is your proper reply to 'What is after
Satori?'.
Thank you...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of roloro1557
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 5:35 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zen] @
Chris,
No need to wait to resume your practice. What better roshis could you have
than your in-laws? What better koans could you work on than your Xbox?
...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of cid830
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:37 PM
To:
Bob,
I agree you don't have to be religious to be ethical. I know many atheist who
are good people. But I also know many who are bad. Especially when they have
power, which they use in a wrong way. What stops you from doing something
'bad'? If nobody possibly notice me, should I steal the
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