RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-27 Thread Maria Lopez
Bill:   Thank you very much for the koan link.  It's an intriguing  enjoyable reading.  I've read only the first four as I've founded to be a reading worthy to stay with it for a while and digest its dharma.  It's like hearing the buddha talking to the buddha in one.  There is no need to

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
JMJM,   I am not saying you are wrong. If you are happy with your practice and feel good, that is great. However, please note:   There are different ways of practice, with very different results.   It is too early for you to come to the conclusion that you have 'surpassed' your karma. There are

Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   My word 'insults' is a general term, it can refer to past, present or future actions. I don't know your past actions. But if you insult me at present or in the future, I will excuse you.   Antony --- On Sat, 27/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   You say: Put on your own oxygen mask before attempting to help others, but don't exit the airplane until everyone else is also ready to go. Anthony: Does 'everyone else' include those died, because you failed to help them put on the mask?.   Bill: I'm sure the Dalai Lama does have an

Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-27 Thread ED
Anthony, In any Forum on Zen (or on any religion or religious practice), it is up to the moderators to set the tone and to clarify whether the group is a gathering of 'true believers', or whether probing and religiously-incorrect questions may be asked, with the view to clarify beliefs and

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread ED
Anthony, are the Teachings of Judaism ethically and altruistically superior to those of Christianity or Islam? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote: I am sorry if I am disturbing your busy schedule. I only hope that you are not like fanatic moslims or

Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   We are lucky that both our moderators are so broadminded that I can afford to say very harmful things without being severely punished.   Anthony --- On Sat, 27/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   Ah, sorry but I forgot to include Judaism and Communism.   Anthony --- On Sat, 27/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 10:36 PM  

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Anthony, There are indeed different practices. Neither am I saying my practice is the only way. Yet, if you read your posts carefully, you are discriminating concept and terms instead of practices. You are saying this is Buddhist and that is not Buddhist. You are saying this is sentient

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-27 Thread ED
JMJM, It is my belief that 'sensations' are used in one of two different senses in ancient Buddhist texts. See below. If my belief is correct, then it is undesirable to create a new interpretation for 'sensations' all on one's own, and without even informing the reader of the change. --ED

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread ED
Anthony, Not to worry - the forgetfulness of *all* humans on matters they do not want to face is normal and natural. http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote: ED, Ah, sorry but I forgot to

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-27 Thread ED
Bill, That may well be the case. Does it automatically follow that others ought to spend enormous amounts of time and energy attempting to attain the same mind-state, and if so, why? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Ed, I am convinced that I have met,

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
JM,   When you analyse something to come to a conclusion, that is the result of your discriminating mind.   Anthony --- On Sun, 28/11/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood To:

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-27 Thread Anthony Wu
JM,   For the time being, we ignore each other's statements. Will that satisfy you?   Anthony --- On Sun, 28/11/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-27 Thread ChrisAustinLane
Pardon my intrusion into this interchange, but I strongly feel that why is a question each person must wrestle with for themselves. You seem to have an intellect very activated with a lot of questions with a lot of energy behind them. If you are content with that way of living, and it seems