[Zen Forum] RE: RE: Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

Everything's working as it should - I can see the messages under the Conversations tab. Woohoo! Let the fun begin! :) ~Audrey ---In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Audrey, I'll look at your membership settings vis-a-vis the page settings and see what I can discover. It will proba

[Zen Forum] Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

This is another test of the email response method of reply to a post in the forum. I successfully replied to a topic and can see the other conversations once again when on the forum webpages directly. In that response I mentioned that when hitting reply via the web link at the bottom of the

Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

Bill, the email subscription has been working seemless. wouldn't have even known yahoo! changed their setup... alls well here. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Mooky wrote: > ** > > > This is a test of replying to the topic using email. Using the Reply via > Web Post link at the bottom of the

Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

This is a test of replying to the topic using email. Using the Reply via Web Post link at the bottom of the email did not work. Once on the webpage it said "Oops, you must be a moderator to perform this action.". The website will not let me see any topics whatsoever. It continually displays the

RE: Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

Audrey, I'll look at your membership settings vis-a-vis the page settings and see what I can discover. It will probably be tomorrow since it's nighttime here now...Bill! ---In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Bill!: I can get into every one of my groups, except for this one. I keep ge

Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

Bill!:  I can get into every one of my groups, except for this one. I keep getting the "You need to be a moderator to perform this action" notice when I click the Conversations tab. Perhaps it has something to do with the settings. I've signed out and in twice - that doesn't seem to work for me.

Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

 go to facebooki will not be interested...merle    Hi, Bill, List   Not very much about Zen, but my experiences in other groups   Yahoo new surface is different from the other, and myself finds the old one more easy. But as some others said, maybe is to make it look more like Facebook. It

Re: [Zen] Problems Accessing the Yahoo! Zen Forum

Hi, Bill, List Not very much about Zen, but my experiences in other groups Yahoo new surface is different from the other, and myself finds the old one more easy. But as some others said, maybe is to make it look more like Facebook. It has been said that there is an application that permits to se

Re: [Zen] 4th Try at Graphic...

good one   Merle www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1   https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1184838_10202240585519798_1292807694_n.jpg

Re: [Zen] RE: Test for Graphic...

I see it only when I click on it... Edgar On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:12 AM, wrote: > > Second Try... > > > > src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1184838_10202240585519798_1292807694_n.jpg"; > height="50" width="100"> > > > > Do you see it now? > > >

Re: [Zen] Test for Graphic...

NO... Edgar On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:03 AM, wrote: > This is a graphic... > > > > > > Do you see it? > >

Re: [Zen] Quantum Physics or Zen?

Bill there was no attachment attached... Edgar On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:56 AM, wrote: > Especially for Edgar... > > > > > > ...Bill! > >

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

I hereby "reply". Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/grou

Re: [Zen] on a clear day

Hi Merle nice to hear from you. No, I'm afraid no garden of Eden here. My little house has 4 bedrooms and 2 and 1/2 baths which is pretty much the standard bill of fair round here in this little bedroom community. B/R community means most have to commute to NYC to work for any real money. I moved h

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

If someone is still listening; then please enliven this thing. I don't mean to sound like a smart-ass but do we want an intellectual fight over what 'advanced' meaning or way of thinking is best. That's already all over the internet. How about some friendly, personal stuff? Merle, ain't you a 40 ye

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

Reply Entered Per Last Yours. KG On 9/26/2013 12:58 AM, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: Whoever reads this post please REPLY. I'm requesting this as a test of the new Yahoo! Group format. Thanks...Bill!

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

got it Edgar On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:58 AM, wrote: > Whoever reads this post please REPLY. > > > > I'm requesting this as a test of the new Yahoo! Group format. > > Thanks...Bill! > >

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

 PRESENT...merle   here On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM, larry maher wrote: >  >I think you might be wasting your time. Nobody lives here no more. Not sure y? > > > >On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, wrote: > > >>  >>Whoever reads this post please REPLY. >> >> >>I'm requesting this

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

here On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM, larry maher wrote: > ** > > > I think you might be wasting your time. Nobody lives here no more. Not > sure y? > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Whoever reads this post please REPLY. >> >> >> I'm requesting this as a test of

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

Hi Bill, I've been getting emails as usual, no change. Siska -Original Message- From: Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: 25 Sep 2013 21:58:47 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?   Whoever reads this post please REPLY. I'm r

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

I think you might be wasting your time. Nobody lives here no more. Not sure y? On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, wrote: > ** > > > Whoever reads this post please REPLY. > > > I'm requesting this as a test of the new Yahoo! Group format. > > Thanks...Bill! > > > -- *Larry Maher*

Re: [Zen] Is There Anybody Out There?

Hi Bill, How are you? JM On 9/25/2013 9:58 PM, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: Whoever reads this post please REPLY. I'm requesting this as a test of the new Yahoo! Group format. Thanks...Bill!

RE: Re: [Zen] New Yahoo! Group Format

I haven't seen my last Reply Post to Edgar's message yet, and it's been a couple hours.  I'm re-posting it to see if the problem is Yahoo!'s or mine...All I said was that I will keep this image but will re-position it a little - which I've already doneBill!  ---In Zen_Forum@yaho

Re: [Zen] New Yahoo! Group Format

Bill, Don't change it! It's the most wonderful Zen photo I've seen and it is still viewable from certain entrances. Edgar On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:38 AM, wrote: > Okay! I finally figured out how to get into the management area and changed > the "Kremlin" Home Page photo. We're going to hav

Re: [Zen] Illusions

No way to know, but I suspect his interest in Buddhism was part of many calls for help (as to the VA mental heath folks, etc.). Unfortunately, while he may have eventually found some balance, the middlle path is rarely a quick fix. Anyway, seems he was not unaware he had issues. KG On 9/17/20

Re: [Zen] Illusions

The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a 'you' that is separate and distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else follows from there such as logic, reason, judgment, categorization, time, etc...

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Yeah guys, if I'm One with everything how come I still feel lonely sitting home with all my things? Oh, and that guy that just killed 14 peeps at the USA's Navy yard was a Buddhist. Don't mess with Buddhists, baby. Have a wonderful, L On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > ** > >

Re: [Zen] Illusions

bill..i do not feel separate..i know we are all one...i try to keep my mind free..merle      bill...rubbish..i know i am one with all..no problem..merle   Merle, The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is

Re: [Zen] Illusions

On 9/16/2013 5:56 AM, Bill! wrote: Kris, Thanks for your well thought out reply. Ironic nonetheless! *L* I too am not trying to infer that explanations are right or wrong. Ah, but then why explain at all? Explanations by their very nature do exactly that. It's fine sport, but a poor (

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Kris, Thanks for your well thought out reply. I too am not trying to infer that explanations are right or wrong. I do find some explanations more comfortable than others, and perhaps that comfortableness is strongly dependent upon semantics. Also I want to state here and now that all my posts

Re: [Zen] Illusions

OK - Forum's slow, and all's quiet hereabouts, so I'll bite... Yes Bill!, delusion is delusion (aka delusion of separations - aka no independent origination - aka emptiness - aka form is emptiness/emptiness is form - etc. - etc...), appearing as all 'other' apparent forms of delusion. (also co

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Kris, Please don't think my continual push-back on you is any form of disrespect. It is my method of re-stating what you say in a way that is more compatible with my thoughts. Like bouncing them off you to see what you will say. Many of the differences may just be semantic, but that's why I'

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Larry, You are correct, but I probably wouldn't agree with your underlying assumptions that cultures are a good thing, and also your judgment of just what constitutes 'advances'. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote: > > Why. Is our worst enemy but it is also the only

Re: [Zen] Id, ego and super-ego -

Zen ain't Psy 101, Merle ole girl. KG On 9/15/2013 12:21 AM, Merle Lester wrote: so let's get this straight..it's the id...that is the one that needs taming bill, mike and kris... give that ego bashing a break... refresh your knowledge please...then let's talk.. merle http://en.wikipedi

RE: [Zen] Id, ego and super-ego -

Merle,Fraud's 'ego' and Buddhist 'ego' are not the same thing. You need to do more research...MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

RE: [Zen] Egolessness -

Merle,It's more a question of seeing the ego as an illusionary construct of the mind - and not something real (having essence). As such, we actually do live without an ego (absolute truth), but like logic and the intellect it can be a useful tool.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,'There is no good or bad. Only thinking makes it so' - Shakespeare.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,Avoiding what truth? I can guarantee you that anyone here who has read that quote will agree with it. It's you that are out in the top paddock. Lol!MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 ego ego ego...so so so so bad huh?...whatcha gumnna do about it?..merle   IMO = EGO On 9/14/2013 5:51 AM, Bill! wrote:   >Merle, > >The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ; Subject: Re: [Zen] Illusions Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2013 3:25:42 AM    so. who creates the good and the bad? need i say humans?..merle   And humans are self-aware and capable of pondering all things good and bad. On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Merle Les

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Tell stories. KG On 9/14/2013 11:43 PM, Merle Lester wrote: ego ego ego...so so so so bad huh?...whatcha gumnna do about it?..merle IMO = EGO On 9/14/2013 5:51 AM, Bill! wrote: Merle, The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basi

Re: [Zen] Illusions

To ask why, or to not ask, is this not just the nature of this? *L* The 'bother' (aka suffering), or rather to see it so, is optional. KG On 9/14/2013 11:37 PM, Merle Lester wrote: right..why bother with the brain at all?... merle On 9/14/2013 5:20 AM, Merle Lester wrote: thinking...real

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 for you or for me?...merle   This is easy to agree with, but to do so sustains the error this seeks to correct. No explanation can suffice. KG On 9/14/2013 5:56 AM, Bill! wrote:   >Merle, > >No! The human intellect including thinking does not have to be discarded. It the ATT

Re: [Zen] Illusions

This is easy to agree with, but to do so sustains the error this seeks to correct. No explanation can suffice. KG On 9/14/2013 5:56 AM, Bill! wrote: Merle, No! The human intellect including thinking does not have to be discarded. It the ATTACHEMENT to thinking that must be discarded. Thin

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 right..why  bother with the brain at all?... merle   On 9/14/2013 5:20 AM, Merle Lester wrote:   > > >  > thinking...really bill..must it be discarded full stop?...merle >  > Spiritual questioning (self-inquiry), ultimately serves only to reveal the illusion (for those with eyes to see).

Re: [Zen] Illusions

IMO = EGO On 9/14/2013 5:51 AM, Bill! wrote: Merle, The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a 'you' that is separate and distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else follows from there such as lo

Re: [Zen] Illusions

On 9/14/2013 5:20 AM, Merle Lester wrote: thinking...really bill..must it be discarded full stop?...merle Spiritual questioning (self-inquiry), ultimately serves only to reveal the illusion (for those with eyes to see). Stopping the mind, is itself illusion of mind. Otherwise, this passes

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Indeed (in deed - meaning maybe, maybe not - but we act as if), without some sense of shared 'delusion' (suffering), no sense of 'compassion' arises. Sharing this, is a manifest/essential aspect of 'unity'. Compassion, points to/reflects this. KG On 9/14/2013 3:48 AM, Bill! wrote: KG, Tha

Re: [Zen] Illusions

' yadayada). As for >vegetables, they make a good addition to any Sunday roast. > >Mike > > >Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > >____ > From: Merle Lester ; >To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ; >Subject: Re: [Zen] Illusio

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 bill...rubbish..i know i am one with all..no problem..merle   Merle, The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a 'you' that is separate and distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else follows f

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Why. Is our worst enemy but it is also the only reason culture and conditions advance. On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Bill! wrote: > ** > > > KG, > > That's why I said "seems to be". I have know way of really knowing. In > fact I do think some animals share some of our intellectual > characte

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Mike, I don't think we have trod this ground before, or if we have we have not both been noticing the same thing. I disagree with what you are saying below and will break down my disagreement phrase-by-phrase on what I consider to be the important phrases: [Mike] "The difference with us thou

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle!!! BINGO Buddha taught that 'all sentient beings have Buddha Nature'. Humans aren't the only beings that are sentient. Merriam-Webster Online defines 'sentient' as: "Sentient : able to feel, see, hear, smell, or taste 1: responsive to or conscious of sense impressions " What is imp

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Bil!,It is possible understand the illusion of duality whilst operating from the relative. We do it all the time (have to to survive) and is what Buddha pointed out 2,500 years ago.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle, No! The human intellect including thinking does not have to be discarded. It the ATTACHEMENT to thinking that must be discarded. Thinking just has to be seen for what it is: delusion. Once that is realized and accepted then you can think all you want, and not form attachments to the

Re: [Zen] Illusions

. You added the destructive bit. Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester ; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ; Subject: Re: [Zen] Illusions Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 4:16:06 AM     mike..what are you attempting to say?...humans are u

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle, The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a 'you' that is separate and distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else follows from there such as logic, reason, judgment, categorization, time, et

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,It's beyond me to make it any clearer.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,You missed the point again.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Bill!,A 'point' in evolution is probably a better choice of word than "peak". Never-the-less, regardless of whether the intellect interferes with our true nature, or not, my point that we alone are in a position to transcend the instinct to survive (and cause harm to others) still stands. Remem

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 yea bill...you hit the nail on the head...full marks to you!..merle   Mike, I think you could also say that humans are the only beings that actually need to make an effort to become "self-realised by following the Dharma". All other sentient beings of which I know seem to be already doing t

Re: [Zen] Illusions

   thinking...really bill..must it be discarded full stop?...merle   Merle!!! BINGO Buddha taught that 'all sentient beings have Buddha Nature'. Humans aren't the only beings that are sentient. Merriam-Webster Online defines 'sentient' as: "Sentient : able to feel, see, hear, smell, or

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 bill...which intellectual characteristics?..merle   KG, That's why I said "seems to be". I have know way of really knowing. In fact I do think some animals share some of our intellectual characteristics. And maybe in that respect also share some of our delusions. ...Bill! --- In Zen_For

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Mike, I don't think we have trod this ground before, or if we have we have not both been noticing the same thing. I disagree with what you are saying below and will break down my disagreement phrase-by-phrase on what I consider to be the important phrases: [Mike] "The difference with us thou

Re: [Zen] Illusions

KG, That's why I said "seems to be". I have know way of really knowing. In fact I do think some animals share some of our intellectual characteristics. And maybe in that respect also share some of our delusions. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristopher Grey wrote: > > Key word

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Key words there Bill!: "... seem to be..." Ordinary mind, such a seemly business. Always becoming (appearing as) this or that to itself, for itself, of itself. Ordinary mind distinguishes itself by caring for such distinctions, and thus becoming self-deluded by continually grasping and rejecti

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Bill!,I think we're covering ground once trodden before! The difference with us though is that we don't have to blindly follow our instincts and can act altruistically even *against* our own welfare. This is rarely seen in the animal kingdom. It's not judging that we are somehow better, just tha

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Mike, I think you could also say that humans are the only beings that actually need to make an effort to become "self-realised by following the Dharma". All other sentient beings of which I know seem to be already doing that. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote: >

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,I'm not "attempting" to say anything. I wrote it in black and white and clearly: humans are in a unique position to become self-realised by following the Dharma (law of reality). You added the destructive bit.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Illusions

st. > > Mike > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > -- > * From: * Merle Lester ; > * To: * Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ; > * Subject: * Re: [Zen] Illusions > * Sent: * Thu, Sep 12, 2013 9:55:30 PM > > > bill..i see..very human t

Re: [Zen] Illusions

about 'there is no path' yadayada). As for vegetables, they make a good addition to any Sunday roast. Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester ; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ; Subject: Re: [Zen] Illusions Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 20

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle,It is a basic tenet in Buddhism that all sentient beings have Buddha Nature, but humans are in a unique position to follow a path to realise it (not withstanding all the waffle about 'there is no path' yadayada). As for vegetables, they make a good addition to any Sunday roast.MikeSent fr

Re: [Zen] Illusions

bill..i see..very human type of understanding. what about animals and vegetation... have they true essence too?..merle   Merle, I believe in zen (and Buddhist) terminology "Buddha Nature" is the same as "true essence" in the subject graphic. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Me

Re: [Zen] RE: Re: changed appearance and functionality

Bill, I'm using Mac Safari browser. When I click on 'visit your group' at the bottom of a post I am taken to http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Zen_Forum/info with Kremlin photo. When I try to go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ I get page doesn't exist error. When I go to yahoo g

Re: [Zen] Illusions

Merle, I believe in zen (and Buddhist) terminology "Buddha Nature" is the same as "true essence" in the subject graphic. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >  so what is true essence?...merle > > >   > I agree with this the way I interpret it ... But I

Re: [Zen] Illusions

 so what is true essence?...merle   I agree with this the way I interpret it ... But I say it a lot more clearly in my book... Edgar On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Bill! wrote:   >Here's a nice one posted especially for Edgar for two reasons: > > >1.  to see if he's still around >2.

Re: [Zen] Illusions

I agree with this the way I interpret it ... But I say it a lot more clearly in my book... Edgar On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Bill! wrote: > Here's a nice one posted especially for Edgar for two reasons: > > > 1. to see if he's still around > 2. to get his comment. > > I generally lik

Re: [Zen] RE: Re: changed appearance and functionality

Bill, Yes, the homepage has been totally screwed up by somebody. The great Daruma image is replaced by RedSquare. Do you think this is something we can fix? Edgar On Sep 11, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > hi joe..no rain, early spring..hot yesterday herald first fires... in t

Re: [Zen] RE: Re: changed appearance and functionality

 hi joe..no rain, early spring..hot yesterday herald first fires... in this hawkesbury/ blue mountains area...cheers merle    Hi, Bill!, and thank you for the kind welcome. I don't see the usual Zen Forum masthead: I see a view of the onion-domes of the Kremlin, an image set to serve to repre

Re: [Zen] changed appearance and functionality

Is it really any different than anything else? It is seeming that the answer to any "how" or "why" question is always "How/why could/would it be any other way?" ... talk about putting the cart before the ox... Phlabbuschrontz! ~PBS On Tue, 9/10/13

Re: [Zen] Re: changed appearance and functionality

 hi joe...merle   Joe, Welcome back. Traffic on the forum has been slow and muted lately. Is that what you mean? ...Bill! __

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

On 9/4/2013 8:37 PM, tri...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > ..."Buddhist concept of self-compassion"... Whatever that may be thought to be, it is not compassion, nor does it even sound particularly Buddhist. Please don't mistake 'New Age' feel good/self love/self help BS for Buddhism, despite the pletho

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

Oh Bill it was a joke AND if I knew it was from you I would have gladly filled it out. BUT what do they think we have that everyone else doesn't? "They" just believe and act on their emotions and 'We" just observe our emotions (mostly) and try not to act on the destructive ones! On Thu, Sep 5, 2

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

screw you (just kidding) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > ** > > > I am a post-grad (clinical psychology) student researching the > relationship between a Buddhist concept of self-compassion and mood states. > Please help me by taking 8 minutes or so to fill in my survey. Kind regards.

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

Larry, The survey, like your post below, is voluntary; but the survey, unlike your post, is anonymous. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote: > > screw you (just kidding) > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I am a post-grad (clinical psy

Re: [Zen] Body awareness strengthens the immune system

I used to love ole Eckhart. Now? Eh? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote: > ** > > > Chan meditation does it a step further. Instead of just focus on the > inner body, Chan meditation ask the practitioner to focus on ten major > chakras, acupressure points, to enhance the chi fl

Re: [Zen] Body awareness strengthens the immune system

Chan meditation does it a step further. Instead of just focus on the inner body, Chan meditation ask the practitioner to focus on ten major chakras, acupressure points, to enhance the chi flow as well as rejuvenate the hormonal organs. JM http://www.heart-to-heart-teaching.org On 8/27/2013 1

RE: [Zen] Greatest enemy of ego is Life itself

Suresh,No offence, but these passages are just basic Buddhist teachings rehashed into today's vernacular - somewhat re-confirming, but certainly not anything new. Do you see anything in his work that is unique and can be contributed to his own personal insights?MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPa

Re: [Zen] Body awareness strengthens the immune system

Come on Merle. Shell out the money. You will be receiving a priceless treasure for only $19.95 ($7.95 for the Kindle edition) plus shipping. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0615869459 :-) Edgar On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > edgar...are you thinking of sending me a get we

Re: [Zen] Body awareness strengthens the immune system

I have a section on Chi and Energy Body in my new book on Reality... Edgar On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > thanks for sharing..good advice...am ill at the moment... lung > infection...merle > > FEELING THE INNER BODY > > Although body identification is one of the m

Re: [Zen] Body awareness strengthens the immune system

 thanks for sharing..good advice...am ill at the moment... lung infection...merle FEELING THE INNER BODY Although body identification is one of the most basic forms of ego, the good news is that it is also the one that you can most easily go beyond. This is done not by trying to convince your

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

ill not > be obscured. > > Mike > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > -- > * From: * Bill! ; > * To: * ; > * Subject: * Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS > * Sent: * Wed, Aug 28, 2013 2:10:16 AM > > > > Kris, > > I'm not

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Bill!,There's nothing wrong with maps as long as they're not taken to be the 'real' destination. Same as time (clocks) and spiritual paths (although, of course, there is a danger in believing that a spiritual path leads to a "destination"). These are good examples of Buddha's teaching that there

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Kris, I'm not drawing any maps. I'm just saying we are always HERE. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristopher Grey wrote: > > What 'now'? Beyond its use as a conceptual dead end - no such thing can > be found. > > There is only experiencing. Experiences and experiencers, just asp

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Why read, interpret, and re-dictate this stuff if it's not making you happy? Or would you rather be an erudite simply content with winning every argument or, in this case, creating one where one isn't Jesus Christ! Or is it Buddha! Or Vishnu? Lighten up dude, all victories are Pyrrhic.

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Awakening, to perpetual free-fall... KG On 8/27/2013 9:20 PM, Bill! wrote: Larry, We all fall victim to it. That's all part of being human. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com , larry maher wrote: > > Thank you so much for that. Spot on. Unfortuna

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

What 'now'? Beyond its use as a conceptual dead end - no such thing can be found. There is only experiencing. Experiences and experiencers, just aspects of this. To call this eternally ever-presently unfolding experiencing 'the now' is preposterous. But then so is any way of saying this. ;)

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Larry, We all fall victim to it. That's all part of being human. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote: > > Thank you so much for that. Spot on. Unfortunately, can talk this stuff all > day long, but practicing it? living it? In minutes I fall 'victim' to this > world wi

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

Andrew, What this statement means to me is the the PERCEPTION (thoughts about) 'now' (experience) might have the shelf-life of 3 seconds, but perceptions are not experience. All thoughts, IMO, are either memories (past) or projections (future), both of which are delusions. Only experience is

Re: [Zen] SOURCE OF STRESS

On 8/27/2013 8:08 PM, larry maher wrote: > You must lead a very happy, fulfilling life? PS - Seriously, how f'ing boring would THAT be? Like it or not, contrasts reveal highlights. Only the darkness can carry the light, only the light can fill the darkness.. KG -

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