[zfs-discuss] Please help destroy pool.

2010-08-18 Thread Alxen4
I have a pool with zvolume (Opensolaris b134) When I try zpool destroy tank I get pool is busy # zpool destroy -f tank cannot destroy 'tank': pool is busy When I try destroy zvolume first I get dataset is busy # zfs destroy -f tank/macbook0-data cannot destroy 'tank/macbook0-data': dataset

[zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Alxen4
Is there any way run start-up script before non-root pool is mounted ? For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) So I need to create ramdisk before actual pool is mounted otherwise it complains that log device is missing :) For sure I can manually remove/and add it by

[zfs-discuss] Kernel panic on import / interrupted zfs destroy

2010-08-18 Thread Matthew Ellison
I have a box running snv_134 that had a little boo-boo. The problem first started a couple of weeks ago with some corruption on two filesystems in a 11 disk 10tb raidz2 set. I ran a couple of scrubs that revealed a handful of corrupt files on my 2 de-duplicated zfs filesystems. No biggie. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 00:16 -0700, Alxen4 wrote: Is there any way run start-up script before non-root pool is mounted ? For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) So I need to create ramdisk before actual pool is mounted otherwise it complains that log device is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Alxen4 wrote: Is there any way run start-up script before non-root pool is mounted ? For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) So I need to create ramdisk before actual pool is mounted otherwise it complains that log device is missing :) For sure I can manually

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Alxen4
Any argumentation why ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 00:49 -0700, Alxen4 wrote: Any argumentation why ? Because a RAMDISK defeats the purpose of a ZIL, which is to provide a fast *stable storage* for data being written. If you are using a RAMDISK, you are not getting any non-volatility guarantees that the ZIL is supposed to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Andrew Gabriel wrote: Alxen4 wrote: Is there any way run start-up script before non-root pool is mounted ? For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) So I need to create ramdisk before actual pool is mounted otherwise it complains that log device is missing :) For

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Alxen4
Thanks...Now I think I understand... Let me summarize it andd let me know if I'm wrong. Disabling ZIL converts all synchronous calls to asynchronous which makes ZSF to report data acknowledgment before it actually was written to stable storage which in turn improves performance but might cause

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Alxen4 wrote: Thanks...Now I think I understand... Let me summarize it andd let me know if I'm wrong. Disabling ZIL converts all synchronous calls to asynchronous which makes ZSF to report data acknowledgment before it actually was written to stable storage which in turn improves performance

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 01:20 -0700, Alxen4 wrote: Thanks...Now I think I understand... Let me summarize it andd let me know if I'm wrong. Disabling ZIL converts all synchronous calls to asynchronous which makes ZSF to report data acknowledgment before it actually was written to stable

[zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Hi, We are considering using a ZFS based storage as a staging disk for Networker. We're aiming at providing enough storage to be able to keep 3 months worth of backups on disk, before it's moved to tape. To provide storage for 3 months of backups, we want to utilize the dedup functionality in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Alxen4
Thanks.Everything is clear now. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Simone Caldana
Il giorno 18/ago/2010, alle ore 10.20, Alxen4 ha scritto: My NFS Client is ESXi so the major question is there risk of corruption for VMware images if I disable ZIL ? I do the same use of ZFS. I had a huge improvement in performance by using mirrors instead of raidz. How is your zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote: gd == Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com writes: Joerg is correct that CDDL code can legally live right alongside the GPLv2 kernel code and run in the same program. gd My understanding is that no, this is not possible. GPLv2 and CDDL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we got hardly any dedup at all. (Something like 3%; compression gave us much better results.) Tiny changes in block alignment completely

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Gary Mills
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:16:04AM -0700, Alxen4 wrote: Is there any way run start-up script before non-root pool is mounted ? For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) So I need to create ramdisk before actual pool is mounted otherwise it complains that log device

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Joerg Schilling wrote: Linus is right with his primary decision, but this also applies for static linking. See Lawrence Rosen for more information, the GPL does not distinct between static and dynamic linking. GPLv2 does not address linking at all and only makes vague

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Ethan Erchinger
Frank wrote: Have you dealt with RedHat Enterprise support? lol. Have you dealt with Sun/Oracle support lately? lololol It's a disaster. We've had a failed disk in a fully support Sun system for over 3 weeks, Explorer data turned in, and been given the runaround forever. The 7000 series

Re: [zfs-discuss] Narrow escape with FAULTED disks

2010-08-18 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Its hard to tell what caused the smart predictive failure message, like a temp fluctuation. If ZFS noticed that a disk wasn't available yet, then I would expect a message to that effect. In any case, I think I would have a replacement disk available. The important thing is that you continue to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Garrett D'Amore
All of this is entirely legal conjecture, by people who aren't lawyers, for issues that have not been tested by court and are clearly subject to interpretation. Since it no longer is relevant to the topic of the list, can we please either take the discussion offline, or agree to just let the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Alxen4 Disabling ZIL converts all synchronous calls to asynchronous which makes ZSF to report data acknowledgment before it actually was written to stable storage which in turn improves

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Alxen4 For example I'm trying to use ramdisk as ZIL device (ramdiskadm ) Other people have already corrected you about ramdisk for log. It's already been said, use SSD, or disable ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ethan Erchinger We've had a failed disk in a fully support Sun system for over 3 weeks, Explorer data turned in, and been given the runaround forever. The 7000 series support is no better,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Garrett D'Amore interpretation. Since it no longer is relevant to the topic of the list, can we please either take the discussion offline, or agree to just let the topic die (on the basis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Ethan Erchinger
Edward wrote: That is really weird. What are you calling failed? If you're getting either a red blinking light, or a checksum failure on a device in a zpool... You should get your replacement with no trouble. Yes, failed, with all the normal failed signs, cfgadm not finding it, FAULTED in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 18, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we got hardly any dedup at all. (Something like 3%; compression gave us much better

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location

2010-08-18 Thread andrew . gabriel
What you say is true only on the system itself. On an NFS client system, 30 seconds of lost data in the middle of a file (as per my earlier example) is a corrupt file. -original message- Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris startup script location From: Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com Date:

[zfs-discuss] 2TB drive will not work on motherboard

2010-08-18 Thread seth keith
I had a perfectly working 7 drive raidz pool using some on board STATA connectors and some on PCI SATA controller cards. My pool was using 500GB drives. I had the stupid idea to replace my 500GB drives with 2TB ( Mitsubishi ) drives. This process resulted in me loosing much of my data ( see my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: All of this is entirely legal conjecture, by people who aren't lawyers, for issues that have not been tested by court and are clearly subject to interpretation. Since it no longer is relevant to the topic of the list, can we please either take the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cant't detach spare device from pool

2010-08-18 Thread Mark Musante
You need to let the resilver complete before you can detach the spare. This is a known problem, CR 6909724. http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6909724 On 18 Aug 2010, at 14:02, Dr. Martin Mundschenk wrote: Hi! I had trouble with my raidz in the way, that some of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Group Quotas

2010-08-18 Thread David Magda
On Wed, August 18, 2010 15:14, Linder, Doug wrote: I've noticed that everytime someone mentions using NFS with ZFS here, they always seem to be using NFSv3. Is there a reason for this that I just don't know about? To me, using NFSv4 is a no-brainer. ZFS supports it natively, it supports

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2TB drive will not work on motherboard

2010-08-18 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/19/10 04:56 AM, seth keith wrote: I had a perfectly working 7 drive raidz pool using some on board STATA connectors and some on PCI SATA controller cards. My pool was using 500GB drives. I had the stupid idea to replace my 500GB drives with 2TB ( Mitsubishi ) drives. This process

[zfs-discuss] Fwd: Kernel panic on import / interrupted zfs destroy

2010-08-18 Thread Matthew Ellison
Hmm still running zdb since last night. Anyone have any suggestions or advice how to proceed with this issue? Thanks, Matthew Ellison Begin forwarded message: From: Matthew Ellison m...@mattellison.com Date: August 18, 2010 3:15:39 AM EDT To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Kernel

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2TB drive will not work on motherboard

2010-08-18 Thread seth keith
this is a 64 bit system, and I already used 2 of these drives in a raidz1 pool and they worked great, except I needed to use the SATA controller card and not the motherboard SATA. Any ideas? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote: ee == Ethan Erchinger et...@plaxo.com writes: ee We've had a failed disk in a fully support Sun system for over ee 3 weeks, Explorer data turned in, and been given the runaround ee forever. that sucks. but

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread John D Groenveld
In message 4c6c4e30.7060...@ianshome.com, Ian Collins writes: If you count Monday this week as lately, we have never had to wait more than 24 hours for replacement drives for our 45x0 or 7000 series Same here, but two weeks ago for a failed drive in an X4150. Last week SunSolve was sending my

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Group Quotas

2010-08-18 Thread Simone Caldana
Il giorno 18/ago/2010, alle ore 21.24, David Magda ha scritto: On Wed, August 18, 2010 15:14, Linder, Doug wrote: I've noticed that everytime someone mentions using NFS with ZFS here, they always seem to be using NFSv3. Is there a reason for this that I just don't know about? At $WORK it's

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Group Quotas

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Mason
Also the linux NFSv4 client is bugged (as in hang-the-whole-machine bugged). I am deploying a new osol fileserver for home directories and I'm using NFSv3 + automounter (because I am also using one dataset per user, and thus I have to mount each home dir separately). We are also in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Group Quotas

2010-08-18 Thread Jordan Schwartz
Well I seemed to have hit on that hot button topic of NFSv4, (good thing I didn't mention that we are running IPv4). To get back to the topic, is anyone running ZFS group quota on large filesystem with lots of smaller files and thousands for groups per filesystem, or have any quota related

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-18 Thread Frank Cusack
On 8/18/10 3:58 PM -0400 Linder, Doug wrote: Erik Trimble wrote: That said, stability vs new features has NOTHING to do with the OSS development model. It has everything to do with the RELEASE model. [...] All that said, using the OSS model for actual *development* of an Operating System is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Joerg Schilling wrote: Linus is right with his primary decision, but this also applies for static linking. See Lawrence Rosen for more information, the GPL does not distinct between

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-18 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/18/10 08:40 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote: Some application benefit from the extended register set and function call ABI, others suffer due to increased sizes impacting the cache. Well, please verify your claims as they do not meet my

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-18 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Aug-18 04:40:21 +0800, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: Some application benefit from the extended register set and function call ABI, others suffer due to increased sizes impacting the cache. Well, please verify your

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-18 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Ross Walker wrote: On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Joerg Schilling wrote: Linus is right with his primary decision, but this also applies for static linking. See Lawrence Rosen for more information, the GPL does