Re: [zfs-discuss] how to destroy a pool by id?

2009-06-21 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:56:52 +1000 (EST) Andre van Eyssen an...@purplecow.org wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Cindy Swearingen wrote: I wish we had a zpool destroy option like this: # zpool destroy -really_dead tank2 Cindy, The moment we implemented such a thing, there would be a rash

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mobo SATA migration to AOC-SAT2-MV8 SATA card

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Breden
There are probably too many questions in my last post, so I will post the questions as separate forum threads. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Breden
Hi, I'm trying to find out which controller card people here recommend that can drive 8 SATA hard drives and that would work with my Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe motherboard, which has following expansion slots: 2 x PCI Express x16 slot at x16, x8 speed (PCIe) The main requirements I have are: - drive 8

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:35:50 PDT Simon Breden no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: If anyone can throw some light on these topics, I would be pleased to hear from you. Thanks a lot. I follow this thread with much interest. Curious to see what'll come out of it. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Breden
After checking some more sources, it seems that if I used the AOC-SAT2-MV8 with this motherboard, I would need to run it on the standard PCI slot. Here is the full listing of the motherboard's expansion slots: 2 x PCI Express x16 slot at x16, x8 speed 2 x PCI Express x1 3 x PCI 2.2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Things I Like About ZFS

2009-06-21 Thread Peter Tribble
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Dave Ringkorno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: I'll start: - The commands are easy to remember -- all two of them.  Which is easier, SVM or ZFS, to mirror your disks?  I've been using SVM for years and still have to break out the manual to use metadb, metainit,

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 resilvering spare taking forever?

2009-06-21 Thread Joe Kearney
UPDATE: It's now back down to 0.9% complete. Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening here or where I can look for problems? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 resilvering spare taking forever?

2009-06-21 Thread Joe Kearney
Are you taking snapshots periodically? If so, you're using a build old enough to restart resilver/scrub whenever a snapshot is taken. Actually yes, I take snapshots once an hour of various things. I'll try disabling them for the time being and see how far along it gets. Thanks! -- This

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 resilvering spare taking forever?

2009-06-21 Thread Joe Kearney
Also, b57 is about 2 years old and misses the improvements in performance, especially in scrub performance. Yep, I know. I'll upgrade them at some point down the road, but they've been serving our needs nicely so far. Thanks! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Orvar Korvar
I use the AOC-SAT2-MV8 in a ordinary PCI slot. The PCI slot maxes at 150MB/sec or so. That is the fastest you will get. That card works very good with Solaris/OpenSolaris. Detects automatically, etc. Ive heard though that it does not work with hot swapping discs - avoid this. However, In a

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 resilvering spare taking forever?

2009-06-21 Thread Richard Elling
Joe Kearney wrote: Also, b57 is about 2 years old and misses the improvements in performance, especially in scrub performance. Yep, I know. I'll upgrade them at some point down the road, but they've been serving our needs nicely so far. Yep, it also suffers from the bug that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread roland
just a side-question: I folthis thread with much interest. what are these * for ? why is followed turned into fol* on this board? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:07:49 PDT roland no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: just a side-question: I folthis thread with much interest. what are these * for ? why is followed turned into fol* on this board? The text of my original message was: On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:35:50 PDT

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Breden
Hey Kebabber, long time no hear! :) It's great to hear that you've had good experiences with the card. It's a great pity to have throughput drop from a potential 1GB/s to 150MB/s, but as most of my use of the NAS is across the network, and not local intra-NAS transfers, this should not be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Ian Collins
On Mon 22/06/09 02:07 , roland no-re...@opensolaris.org sent: just a side-question: I folthis thread with much interest. what are these * for ? why is followed turned into fol* on this board? It isn't a board, it's a mail list. All the forum does is bugger up the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Things I Like About ZFS

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Breden
OK, my turn: - combining file system + volume manager + RAID + pool + scrub + resilvering + snapshots + rollback + end-to-end integrity + 256-but block checksums + on-the-fly healing of blocks with checksum errors on read - one liners that are mostly remembered, and simple to guess if forgotten

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 resilvering spare taking forever?

2009-06-21 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Joe Kearney wrote: UPDATE: It's now back down to 0.9% complete. Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening here or where I can look for problems? There was also a bug which restarted resilvers each time you issue a zpool status command as a privilaged user. Make sure to check the progress

[zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I list out all the properties available for a filesystem? Banging away in man zfs seems to be going nowhere pretty fast. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread James C. McPherson
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:28:56 -0500 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: How can I list out all the properties available for a filesystem? Banging away in man zfs seems to be going nowhere pretty fast. Is zfs get all datasetname not helping? $ zfs get all rpool NAME PROPERTY

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread Harry Putnam
James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com writes: [...] Is zfs get all datasetname not helping? [...] Gack... quite the reverse ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread James C. McPherson
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:47:30 -0500 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com writes: [...] Is zfs get all datasetname not helping? [...] Gack... quite the reverse your original question was somewhat vague - could you clarify what it is you

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread Harry Putnam
James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com writes: your original question was somewhat vague - could you clarify what it is you need to find out? I wanted to see a list of all the properties available to zfs on a filesystem. Your answer was very helpful... thanks My quick reply may not

Re: [zfs-discuss] two pools on boot disk?

2009-06-21 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Michael Sullivanmichael.p.sulli...@mac.com wrote: One really interesting bit is how easily it is to make the disk in a pool bigger by doing a zpool replace on the device.  It couldn't have been any easier with ZFS. It's interesting how you achieved that,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Carson Gaspar
I'll chime in as a happy owner of the LSI SAS 3081E-R PCI-E board. It works just fine. You need to get lsiutil from the LSI web site to fully access all the functionality, and they cleverly hide the download link only under their FC HBAs on their support site, even though it works for

[zfs-discuss] zfs IO scheduler

2009-06-21 Thread tester
Hello, Trying to understand the ZFS IO scheduler, because of the async nature it is not very apparent, can someone give a short explanation for each of these stack traces and for their frequency this is the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/test/test1/trash count=1 bs=1024k;sync no other IO is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread James C. McPherson
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:01:31 -0700 Carson Gaspar car...@taltos.org wrote: I'll chime in as a happy owner of the LSI SAS 3081E-R PCI-E board. It works just fine. You need to get lsiutil from the LSI web site to fully access all the functionality, and they cleverly hide the download link

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Andre van Eyssen
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Carson Gaspar wrote: I'll chime in as a happy owner of the LSI SAS 3081E-R PCI-E board. It works just fine. You need to get lsiutil from the LSI web site to fully access all the functionality, and they cleverly hide the download link only under their FC HBAs on their

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Jorgen Lundman
I only have a 32bit PCI bus in the Intel Atom 330 board, so I have no choice than to be slower, but I can confirm that the Supermicro dac-sata-mv8 (SATA-1) card works just fine, and does display in cfgadm. (Hot-swapping is possible). I have been told aoc-sat2-mv8 does as well (SATA-II) but

Re: [zfs-discuss] two pools on boot disk?

2009-06-21 Thread Michael Sullivan
Fajar, Yes, you could probably do send/receive from one pool to another, but that would be somewhat more time consuming and you'd have to make sure everything was right in your GRUB menu.lst as well as boot blocks, not to mention the potential for namespace collisions when dealing with a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Trimble
Jorgen Lundman wrote: I only have a 32bit PCI bus in the Intel Atom 330 board, so I have no choice than to be slower, but I can confirm that the Supermicro dac-sata-mv8 (SATA-1) card works just fine, and does display in cfgadm. (Hot-swapping is possible). I have been told aoc-sat2-mv8 does

[zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Trimble
I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x 3.0Gbps SATA performance instead of 1 x 3.0Gbps, are there problems with using

[zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-21 Thread Stuart Anderson
It is currently taking ~1 week to resilver an x4500 running S10U6, recently patched with~170M small files on ~170 datasets after a disk failure/replacement, i.e., scrub: resilver in progress for 53h47m, 30.72% done, 121h19m to go Is there anything that can be tuned to improve this performance,

Re: [zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-21 Thread James Lever
Hi Erik, On 22/06/2009, at 1:15 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x 3.0Gbps SATA

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs find list of properties per dataset

2009-06-21 Thread Richard Elling
Harry Putnam wrote: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com writes: your original question was somewhat vague - could you clarify what it is you need to find out? I wanted to see a list of all the properties available to zfs on a filesystem. NB, the user and group quotas are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-21 Thread Richard Elling
Stuart Anderson wrote: It is currently taking ~1 week to resilver an x4500 running S10U6, recently patched with~170M small files on ~170 datasets after a disk failure/replacement, i.e., wow, that is impressive. There is zero chance of doing that with a manageable number of UFS file systems.

Re: [zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-21 Thread Richard Elling
Erik Trimble wrote: I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x 3.0Gbps SATA performance instead of 1 x 3.0Gbps, are there

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-21 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Richard Elling wrote: Stuart Anderson wrote: It is currently taking ~1 week to resilver an x4500 running S10U6, recently patched with~170M small files on ~170 datasets after a disk failure/replacement, i.e., wow, that is impressive. There is zero chance of

[zfs-discuss] Backup schemes invoving rsync Linux_rmt = Osol

2009-06-21 Thread Harry Putnam
There is a lot more about snapshots and backup schemes that I don't know than there is that I do know... My needs are pretty simple and small compared to some of the heavy users here, but I'd like to run just the rough idea by the group. One backup I need to make is from to linux online servers

[zfs-discuss] bug access

2009-06-21 Thread Jens Elkner
Hi, This CR has been marked as incomplete by User 1-UM-1502 for the reason Need More Info. Please update the CR providing the information requested in the Evaluation and/or Comments field. hmmm - wondering, how to find out, what 'more info' means and how to provide this info. There is no

Re: [zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Trimble
Richard Elling wrote: Erik Trimble wrote: I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x 3.0Gbps SATA performance instead of 1

Re: [zfs-discuss] cutting up a SSD for read/log use...

2009-06-21 Thread Erik Trimble
James Lever wrote: Hi Erik, On 22/06/2009, at 1:15 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: I just looked at pricing for the higher-end MLC devices, and it looks like I'm better off getting a single drive of 2X capacity than two with X capacity. Leaving aside the issue that by using 2 drives I get 2 x

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Jun 22 at 12:05, Andre van Eyssen wrote: I'll add another vote for the LSI products. I have a four port PCI-X card in my V880, and the performance is good and the product is well behaved. The only caveats: 1. Make sure you upgrade the firmware ASAP 2. You may need to use lsiutil to

Re: [zfs-discuss] PicoLCD Was: Best controller card for 8 SATA drives ?

2009-06-21 Thread Jorgen Lundman
I hesitate to post this question here, since the relation to ZFS is tenuous at best (zfs to sata controller to LCD panel). But maybe someone has already been down this path before me. Looking at building a RAID, with osol and zfs, I naturally want a front-panel. I was looking at something

[zfs-discuss] Why Oracle process open(2)/ioctl(2) /dev/dtrace/helper?

2009-06-21 Thread Sang-Thong Chang
Hi all, Under what circumstance would an exiting process open(2) and ioctl(2) on /dev/dtrace/helper? I have an issue here where CU was complaining that their Oracle processes were taking a long time in ioctl(2) on /dev/dtrace/helper during shutdown. Removing group/world readable bit on

[zfs-discuss] Sorry, wrong alias Re: Why Oracle process open(2)/ioctl(2) /dev/dtrace/helper?

2009-06-21 Thread Sang-Thong Chang
My apologies... sent to wrong alias. Sang-Thong Chang wrote: Hi all, Under what circumstance would an exiting process open(2) and ioctl(2) on /dev/dtrace/helper? I have an issue here where CU was complaining that their Oracle processes were taking a long time in ioctl(2) on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Speeding up resilver on x4500

2009-06-21 Thread Nicholas Lee
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Stuart Anderson ander...@ligo.caltech.eduwrote: However, it is a bit disconcerting to have to run with reduced data protection for an entire week. While I am certainly not going back to UFS, it seems like it should be at least theoretically possible to do this