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years ago,
they were supported on Soalris 2.6, 7, and 8 (which tells you how long
ago that was), so I assume Solaris 9 is (or was) supported.
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shared via NFS. Definitely not a ZFS issue :-)
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substantially before the SVM.
In all cases the OS was Solaris 10 U 3 (11/06) with no
additional patches.
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He goes on to explain some of the logic behind NetApp's reaction.
Regards,
David
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know some older disks are not designed to
run upside down. Check the drive manufacturers data sheet on the
drives you are using.
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are probably never going to see
100 million files in one zpool, because the ZFS architecture lets us
use a more distributed model (many zpools and datasets within them)
and still present the end users with a single view of all the data.
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/ I usually just get it
precompiled from http://www.sunfreeware.com/ ). I have found lsof to
be more reliable that fuser in listing what has a file open.
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failed to make the change.
Calling the Sun ONE Web Server (the reservation of UID/GID 80)
part of the operating system is a stretch. Is there a definitive list
of what users and services all of the UID/GIDs below 100 are reserved
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that misbehaves (and doesn't know it).
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something wrong
Did you mount both the parent and all the children on the client ?
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the NFS server
sees the various directories to share. Each dataset in the zpool is
seen as a separate FS from the OS perspective; each is a separate NFS
share. In which case each has to be mounted separately on the NFS
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is running on the server and the server has
all of the children mounted Samba can see them.
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(from UFS to ZFS or ZFS to
ZFS).
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Sent from the correct address...
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From: Paul Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Nov 15, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for consumers WAS:Yager on ZFS
To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
On 11/15/07, can you guess? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
could).
So I suppose my argument for ZFS in home use is not data
integrity, but much simpler management, both short and long term.
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performance out of HW RAID cards and from the OS
layer you need additional hardware vendor drivers to really manage and
monitor the drives (if you even can from the OS layer, I hate
rebooting, even home servers).
Just one geeks opinion.
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to cause real recovery tools to be written. Eventually there
will be tools to reconstruct as much of the metadata as possible after
a disaster (there always are for true Enterprise systems), but not
yet.
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comment was more about MacOSX, Xserve, and Xraid suitability
in situations where reliability is key than ZFS.
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against both UFS and ZFS (but not
against VxFS) and have not noticed any FS related performance
limitations. The clients and the network are all slower.
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physical +
swap have to be less than 2 GB).
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this was with DiskSuite a good way to go,
short or long term.
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backup/restore solutions in the market.
Is there a ufsdump equivalent for ZFS ? For home use I really don't
want to have to buy a NetBackup license.
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for replacement hardware.
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replacing them all at once ?
This is an active system with both backup jobs and end users
generating I/O on an almost continuous basis.
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or more mirrors.
Any thoughts as to why I am not getting better throughput ?
Thanks.
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Thank you for all your replies, I'm collecting my responses in one
message below:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Nicolas
Williamsnicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 04:22:19PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote:
We have a system with some large datasets (3.3 TB and about 35
? Is there
another benchmark I should be using ?
P.S. I posted a OpenOffice.org spreadsheet of my test resulsts here:
http://www.ilk.org/~ppk/Geek/throughput-summary.ods
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of data overall. A big SAMBA file server.
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Richard,
First, thank you for the detailed reply ... (comments in line below)
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Richard Elling
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more below...
On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Paul Kraus wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Richard Elling
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recommendations and experiences. Thanks.
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of
data between sites this way every 4 hours over a 100 Mb link. I put
the snapshot management and the site to site replication in the same
script to keep them from fighting :-)
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as well as our own. For
example, is anyone using NFS with Oracle Cluster for HA storage for
VMs or are sites trusting to a single NFS server ?
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version of a
command under Solaris 10 was just broken, while the Sun version was
fine (I think the problem was with su).
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(7.0) supports both client side and
server side dedupe (at additional cost ;-). We are using it in test for
backing up remote servers
across slow WAN links with very good results.
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and I expect is a much
better measure of what the underlying zfs code is dealing with (a
particular dataset may have lots of snapshot data that does not
(easily) show up).
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, as to reliability, the hardware RAID array cannot detect
silent corruption of data the way the end to end ZFS checksum can.
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errors: No known data errors
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busy and
unavailable to cover for a different (real ?) failure. But, one would
hope that the administrator would notice and take corrective action as
necessary ...
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). My standard
practice is to wait for the hot spare to finish resilvering before
replacing the failed drive, just to be safe.
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that it will not be back ported
into the Solaris 10 kernel).
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Oh, I *wanted* it to work, and can't wait for S11 to actually be
able to use it in production (the shop I work in does not use
OpenSolaris or Solaris Express in production).
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provide more than just authentication
integration with AD.
The in kernel CIFS server is also supposed to be much faster,
although I have not tested that yet.
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of how long things took).
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. Back in 1996 I had a dual CPU SPARC20 running
OpenLook/OpenWindows as my desktop and it was fantastic, but times
change.
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(including a local FULL
and then ship the storage to the other location).
Ahhh, for an online defragment function.
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'zpool-01/dataset-01@1299636001': dataset is busy
xxx sudo zfs destroy zpool-01/dataset-01@1300233615
cannot destroy 'zpool-01/dataset-01@1300233615': dataset is busy
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 6/11 12:28 AM, Paul Kraus wrote:
I have a zpool with one dataset and a handful of snapshots. I
cannot delete two of the snapshots. The message I get is dataset is
busy. Neither fuser or lsof show anything holding
as this is a production zpool) or a reboot
(will happen eventually, and I can wait) these will clear. Unless
there is a way to force clear the hold.
Thanks Rich.
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on a VM guest.
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to ZFS, but I would like
to have some input into future features. I hope this new ruling cabal
(not meant as a negative term in this context) makes allowances for
this.
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Rich Morris rich.mor...@oracle.com wrote:
On 04/06/11 12:43, Paul Kraus wrote:
xxx zfs holds zpool-01/dataset-01@1299636001
NAME TAG TIMESTAMP
zpool-01/dataset-01@1299636001 .send-18440-0 Tue Mar 15 20:00:39 2011
xxx
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.
I did run into a bug early on that if the ssh failed, then the zfs
recv would hang, but that was fixed ages ago.
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that the drives in question really don't have
a QC issue, just that the reports via Newegg are biased by Newegg's
packing / shipping practices.
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. I can't afford new
Sun/Oracle for home use.
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not want to
die :-) That seemed to be a 'sweet spot' for long term reliability (or
I just got lucky).
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) with no change. I
have not been able to get serial console redirect to work so I do not
have a good log of the failures.
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that did not have devices on the faulted 3511 are OK. Because of these
other zpools we can't really reboot the box or pull the FC
connections.
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On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Richard Elling
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On May 19, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
Is there a way (other than zpool online) to kick ZFS into
rescanning the LUNs ?
zpool clear poolname
I am unclear on when clear
, and
the rest are fine. The pool has a capacity of 1.5 TB and is about 1.37
TB used, the remaining pool to cleanup is 8 TB used out of 9 TB and we
really can't afford to have these kinds of problems with that one.
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driver was
not handling a couple very specific scsi commands fast enough for ZFS.
The problem shows itself when importing under Solaris 10U9 or when
making other underlying storage changes. It is apparently 10U9
specific.
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
I have
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NOT saying that was a bad change, but
that it was a change driven by ONE vendor.
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for results using raidz2 vdevs. I did not test sequential read
performance here as our workload does not include any.
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/O activity on this box, as this is a remote
replication target for production data. I have a the replication
disabled until the resilver completes.
Solaris 10U9
zpool version 22
Server is a T2000
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On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote:
On 6/2/2011 5:12 PM, Jens Elkner wrote:
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 06:17:08PM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:54 -0400, Paul Kraus wrote:
Here's how you calculate (average) how long a random IOPs
, 3 MB/sec. maybe) or just wait it out.
I'll be honest, I am nervous with a raidz2 vdev not at full
strength, and I am looking for some comfort :-)
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lost my
data.
Was the cause of the checksum mismatch just that the stream data
was stored as a file ? That does not seem right to me.
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
2011-06-09 18:52, Paul Kraus пишет:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jonathan Walkerkall...@gmail.com wrote:
New to ZFS, I made a critical error when migrating data and
configuring zpools according to needs - I stored
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. This information
came out of Sun (pre-Oracle) and _may_ have been traceable back to
Brendan Gregg.
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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Eric D. Mudama
edmud...@bounceswoosh.org wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14 at 8:04, Paul Kraus wrote:
I saw some stats a year or more ago that indicated the MTDL for raidZ2
was better than for a 2-way mirror. In order of best to worst I
remember the rankings
, but it
cannot meet our performance needs.
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Spare ? If you have another zpool and
the Hot Spare will be shared, that makes sense. If the drive is
powered on and spinning, I don't see any downside to making it a 4-way
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to around 20 MB/sec...
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data. You may have to force an operation since you did not
detach the zone.
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- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company
be OK ?
[Not applicable to the root zpool, will the OS installation utility do
the right thing ?]
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Coordinator, Schenectady
in sy cs us sy id
0 0 112 8117096 211888 55 46 0 0 425 0 912684 0 0 0 0 976 166 836 0 2 98
0 0 112 8117096 211936 53 51 6 0 394 0 926702 0 0 0 0 976 167 833 0 2 98
ARC size (B): 4065882656
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Paul Kraus
impact
importing this zpool ?
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
I am having a very odd problem, and so far the folks at Oracle
Support have not provided a working solution, so I am asking the crowd
here while still pursuing it via Oracle Support
this zpool I hang the system due to
lack of memory (the box has 32 GB of RAM).
Any suggestions how to delete / destroy this incomplete snapshot
without running the system out of RAM ?
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
An additional data point, when i try to do
the fullness
of this zpool.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
Updates to my problem:
1. The destroy operation appears to be restarting from the same point
after the system hangs and has to be rebooted. Oracle gave me the
following to track progress:
echo '::pgrep
are added (earlier in the search path).
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Paul Kraus
- Senior Systems Architect, Garnet River ( http://www.garnetriver.com/ )
- Sound Designer: Frankenstein, A New Musical
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