Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Spencer
You are quite right, but I still refuse to give them one cent. I try very hard not to play footsie with Satan. Jon Marc A. Schindler wrote: I can't argue with your overall approach, but I would point out that not all of their books are polemical. You have to look at each title on its own merits

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-03 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I can't argue with your overall approach, but I would point out that not all of their books are polemical. You have to look at each title on its own merits. But I don't think there's any doubt where the sympathies of the publisher's owners, George Smith, lie. In this JWR's "paranoia" is probably fu

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-03 Thread Paul Osborne
>If the Book of Mormon is not historical, then the Church is false, and >Joseph Smith was no prophet. Knowing this, Satan and his mortal followers >make their most sophisticated attacks upon mankind by attacking the >historicity of the Book of Mormon. Further more, according to my testimony I

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-03 Thread Jon Spencer
As I said a few years ago on this list, this is why we have not and will not ever carry any book from Signature Books in our LDS bookstore. My wife is kinder and gentler than I. When people ask why we don't have certain books, she just says that we don't buy from that publisher, and that is all s

RE: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-02 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Jim Cobabe favored us with: Not really anything new here. Just more evil detractors continuing the attempt to dilute and de-emphasise sacred doctrines of the Church, so that it becomes indistinguishable from other corrupt sects. It is becoming quite respectable in the intel

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Jim Cobabe wrote: > Not really anything new here. Just more evil detractors continuing the > attempt to dilute and de-emphasise sacred doctrines of the Church, so > that it becomes indistinguishable from other corrupt sects. It is Not to disagree with you in principle, but just to pick a nit:

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
In Germany we used to refer to attempts to place Books of Mormons (usually in small "Pensionen" or inns) as "buming," which is Missionary German. It's pronounced "booming" and comes from BuM (das Buch Mormon), pronounced "boom" but with a relatively short duration "oo". When you dangle a child on y

RE: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Cobabe
Not really anything new here. Just more evil detractors continuing the attempt to dilute and de-emphasise sacred doctrines of the Church, so that it becomes indistinguishable from other corrupt sects. It is becoming quite respectable in the intellectual crowd to maintain that the Book of Mor

RE: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Jim Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Is there a link to the AP article (or others) or to the paper itself? --- http://www.sltrib.com/2002/nov/11302002/saturday/7024.htm // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// htt

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:18 PM 12/1/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Oh. Should have added one more minor thing. "BoMor" is a contraction preferred by Brent Metcalfe, who edited the book in which this paper appeared, and who likewise does not believe in the historicity of the Book of Mormon -- Metcalfe was exxe

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Oh. Should have added one more minor thing. "BoMor" is a contraction preferred by Brent Metcalfe, who edited the book in which this paper appeared, and who likewise does not believe in the historicity of the Book of Mormon -- Metcalfe was exxed I think sometime after the infamous September Six. No

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Harold Stuart
Just a couple more things... Our intrepid Signaturus writes: There were no Lamanites prior to c. 1828 This cannot be shown from his data. As I said in my last post, he has no idea what the Lamanite genome looks like. He is only guessing. It is not likely to be what he thinks it is.

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Perhaps this might help. Richley Crapo is an LDS anthropologist at Utah State (Logan). This is forwarded from Scripture-L with his permission: My initial reference is from information provided to me by Lou Midgley at BYU, and I also have his permission to quote him on Murphy's lack of professional

RE: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread larry . jackson
Jim Cobabe: Saturday, November 30, 2002 BY PATTY HENETZ THE ASSOCIATED PRESS A graduate student at the University of Washington says he likely will be excommunicated next week for articles he has written questioning the validity of the Book of Mormon. Harold Stuart: I've actually read this g

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Harold Stuart
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 09:44 PM, Jim Cobabe wrote: Saturday, November 30, 2002 BY PATTY HENETZ THE ASSOCIATED PRESS A graduate student at the University of Washington says he likely will be excommunicated next week for articles he has written questioning the validity of the