RE: [ZION] Tell Heidi

2003-10-26 Thread Noel B
Having watched many converts come into church, having stood at some of their baptisms and welcomed them into the ward, I have to say that this is true for the social aspects of the ward. However, attendence at Club Mormon is not what we will be judged on, in my opinion. The converts that I have

RE: [ZION] Tell Heidi

2003-10-26 Thread Noel B
] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Tell Heidi Noel B wrote: Having watched many converts come into church, having stood at some of their baptisms and welcomed them into the ward, I have to say that this is true for the social aspects of the ward

RE: [ZION] hi

2003-10-25 Thread Noel B
: RE: [ZION] hi Noel, I found a facsimilie copy of the Hexapla on a site named greatsite http://www.gretsite.com. It's a little pricy but it is available. Pax et Bonum, John A.E., n/OEF -Original Message- From: Noel B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23

RE: [ZION] hi

2003-10-23 Thread Noel B
Speaking of the versions of the Bible, I have a copy of the Hexapla. This is a side by side of six different versions of the New Testament including KJV, Geneva, Wycliffe and three others. I have found it very interesting and thought provoking to read the different interpretations. Not sure if

[ZION] Water in the Sacrament

2003-10-19 Thread Noel B
Looking for a little assistance. While the revelation where the Lord said that it didn't matter what was used in the Sacrament was given in 1830 (section 27), it appears that it was not generally applied to the body of the church until later. Anyone have references as to when the guidelines were

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-15 Thread Noel B
Not that I would want to minimize what happened with sidewalk sleeze, but I would take it over marching into the Roman Coliseum to face the lions... Been reading Foxe's Book of Martyrs and it wasn't a picnic. Noel -Original Message- From: John A. English, n/OEF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ZION] Forgiveness of Serious Sins by Individual Members

2003-10-12 Thread Noel B
You can forgive someone and never associate with them again. Can one's forgiveness be truly tested if there is no longer any association with the offender? True forgiveness is marked by the ability to show love and compassion in the face of hurt or offense. Just a thought... Noel -Original

RE: [ZION] the Need for Speed

2003-10-08 Thread Noel B
Chet, If I were to vote, I would go for Elder Ballard's talk Sunday morning. What better a topic than coming to know our Father in Heaven? Been a long time since I heard the Lectures on Faith quoted. What a beautiful rendition of the encounter of Enoch with the Father. How canst thou weep? How is

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-14 Thread Noel B
And why are they working? To get that second car, or the boat or the bigger house??? I am reminded of what the Lord said in 2 Nephi: 51 Wherefore, do not spend money for that which is of no worth, nor your labor for that which cannot satisfy. Hearken diligently unto me, and remember the words

RE: [ZION] The Stupidity of Other People

2003-09-03 Thread Noel B
John, I have thought a lot about your comments. While I haven't been on the list as long as others, I do sense that your heart is in the right place. I don't know if you have ever read 'First Things First' by Covey, but the book has given me new insights into the impact I allowed other people to

RE: [ZION] The Atonement and False Doctrine?

2003-08-25 Thread Noel B
Here is a quote from Alma, chapter 7, that may help: 10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea,

RE: [ZION] Mayan Nephites?

2003-08-15 Thread Noel B
I recently visited the ruins at Chichen Itza (sp). As most good tourists do, I listened to the guide giving the standard pitch on the dating of the pyramid and made the trek up the side of the structure to the top. After enjoying the great view, I trundled down and went to the East side of the

RE: [ZION] Caral, Peru 2627 B.C.

2003-08-15 Thread Noel B
Dear Zionisti, For a long time I held to the idea that the Amerindians where, as described in the Book of Mormon, solely the descendants of the Jaredites and Lehites. I have had to change my thinking of late. Not because of the DNA or any other feeble attempt by man to assign broad definitions to

RE: [ZION] Samoa Temple

2003-07-12 Thread Noel B
Jim Cobabe: I wept when I learned of this sad news. Is something amiss in the Church, that the Lord would allow one of his temples to be destroyed? ___ It is sad, but I seriously doubt anything unusual is amiss. I think there was a construction accident. Larry Jackson

RE: [ZION] Samoa Temple

2003-07-12 Thread Noel B
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noel B favored us with: For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I listen to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to assume that each one of us must seek confirmation

RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the Fact that Most P

2003-07-12 Thread Noel B
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I would venture that few there are that have sought after and received this blessing that, according to 2 Nephi 31:17-18, is a requirement before you are solidly on

RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the Fact that Most

2003-07-12 Thread Noel B
This is what Enos received after his wrestle with God which took him into the forest for a day and night of prayer. There are a number of descriptions in the scriptures on this topic: Mosiah 4, Enos, 3Nephi 12:1-2, and one of my favorites, DC39:6. I don't think it is the same thing. Noel