Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-02 Thread Stacy Smith
I'm forty-five. Stacy. At 08:19 PM 09/01/2003 -0400, you wrote: Stacy Smith wrote: Who is really free? I don't consider myself free. Freedom has become a silly joke in my case. Everyone always wants to know where I'm going, when I'll be back, even what I eat. ==

Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-02 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Stacy Smith wrote: Who is really free? I don't consider myself free. Freedom has become a silly joke in my case. Everyone always wants to know where I'm going, when I'll be back, even what I eat. = Grampa Bill opines: Stacy, take a lesson from our kids when

Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-01 Thread George Cobabe
suffers. George - Original Message - From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency > Who is really free? I don't consider myself free. Freedom has be

Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-01 Thread Stacy Smith
--- From: "Jim Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:16 AM Subject: [ZION] freedom versus free agency > > Free agency is an inviolable gift from Heavenly Father. Each of us has > absolute free agency to make cho

Re: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-01 Thread George Cobabe
l that happened subsequently. George - Original Message - From: "Jim Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:16 AM Subject: [ZION] freedom versus free agency > > Free agency is an inviolable gift from Heavenly Father. Ea

[ZION] freedom versus free agency

2003-09-01 Thread Jim Cobabe
Free agency is an inviolable gift from Heavenly Father. Each of us has absolute free agency to make choices for good or evil. Our freedom, on the other hand, is constantly subjected to bounds and conditions and restrictions. Our freedom is constrained by natural laws, by self-imposed restric

Re: [ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Spencer
- From: "Jon Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Freedom versus capitalism > The main point of Primary Capitalism, or what I believe is true capitalism, > is that money is a secondary

Re: [ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Spencer
ly to those whose ideas helped him along the way. He pays his debt of gratitude to all. Tithing is an excellent PC action. That's all for now. Jon - Original Message - From: "Gary Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002

[ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-14 Thread Gary Smith
Would you then say that there is no true freedom in the United Order/consecration? I think a capitalist society is okay, but it is too often the case that financial markets replace true freedom, which begins not with the pocket book, but with a respect for life and ideas. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary

Re: [ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-11 Thread Stacy Smith
I think we could very easily have total unrestricted capitalism in this country if certain people have their way. Stacy. At 10:50 PM 12/09/2002 -0600, you wrote: I found this old article on my hard drive by Charlie Reese. It reminded me of a very important fact: I can be a believer in freedom w

Re: [ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-11 Thread Jon Spencer
Unfortunately, the article you gave us talked about the evils of RESTRICTED CAPITALISM, not free markets. I mean, how can a market which includes a dictator who manipulates the market be called a "free market?" My definition of capitalism/free markets does not include using the government to cont

[ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

2002-12-10 Thread Gary Smith
I found this old article on my hard drive by Charlie Reese. It reminded me of a very important fact: I can be a believer in freedom without believing in an unrestricted capitalist system, and that too many people equate them. In reality, I look forward to Zion, where there will be great freedom to

[ZION] Freedom

2002-10-13 Thread Gary Smith
One has freedom where there is freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom of action. Of these three, freedom of thought cannot easily be modified by aggression/force. For a society of imperfect people to survive, there must be limits placed on freedom. Each person must be free from others'