RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread hkpage
Well, there IS a way to follow prophetic counsel AND work where there is a husband in the home...and it looks like I'm about to embark upon it. I'm going to start doing child care in my home, so I'll be at home with my own children yet bringing in income. I'm also considering giving piano lessons

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Jim Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Be careful, Jim, of painting all LDS working women with the same brush. --- Yah, hope I wasn't doing that. But here's something to consider further... "It is in vain for persons to fancy to themselves that they are heirs with those, or can be heirs with them, who

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Osborne
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:35:44 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Sounds like we need not follow prophetic counsel as long as our > circumstances make it inconvenient or uncomfortable for us. > > Am I getting this right? No, you're wrong prophet Jim. Your interpretation and expect

Re: [ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Osborne
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:34:35 + J Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Val wrote: (i.e. husband can get more education to get a better paying job Are you saying that no Latter-day Saint should settle for a lower paying job? Someone has to do the work! There are always lower paying jobs an

Re: [ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-20 Thread Chet Cox
If my experience/background is correct, they're most likely cringing and thinking "Oh that poor Brother Cobabe. I wish I had a couple of miracles for him!" *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." On Sat, 20 Sep 2003

Re: [ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
Their desire, in my opinion, is to coach the person seeking help to get personal revelation and help solve their own problems. At times they have referred people to therapists. Stacy. At 10:28 PM 09/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: Jim Cobabe wrote: "Counsel with the bishop" is a standard answer.

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
I wish I could work at all. The Department of Rehabilitation in this county has evaluated me and decided I am unemployable. This is no laughing matter for me and has caused me much depression. Seeing I have no children, employment outside the home should not have been a problem for me. Stacy

[ZION] Steven E. Robinson and Salvation and Calling and Election Again

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
Hi. I'd like to hear from those who have read the books "Believing Christ" and "Following Christ." I'd like to know from those people how they explain his current position with the ceremony of calling and election made sure. According to him, if we are doing the best we can with also repenta

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stacy Smith wrote: I wish I could work at all. The Department of Rehabilitation in this county has evaluated me and decided I am unemployable. This is no laughing matter for me and has caused me much depression. Seeing I have no children, employment outside the home should not have been a pro

[ZION] Private from Redelfs

2003-09-20 Thread John W. Redelfs
As usual, Jim, you are right and the others are wrong on this thread about women working. But they seem to be ganging up on you. Don't let it get you down. You know you sometimes pick fights you haven't got the stomach for. I think most of them would agree with you if they could get past the

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
I am diabetic and I had to find a way to observe the fast properly and still keep my sugar level at a reasonable point. I had been newly diagnosed and wasn't sure about how I could keep the fast. I now have some very good ideas through my bishop. Stacy. At 12:16 AM 09/20/2003 +, you wrot

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
That's not true of me. I loved medical transcription but did not have the necessary speed required and the references I was able to get became out of date soon. I loved it and I could learn to love something else. Stacy. At 08:55 AM 09/20/2003 -0800, you wrote: Stacy Smith wrote: I wish I co

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Jon Spencer
With all the people who are signing up on the do not call me lists, there will be far fewer telemarketing jobs. However, there will still be some. One of the people I home taught was severely disabled and legally blind. He did telemarketing occasionally. I found the companies he worked for to b

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote: > The line must be decided individual case by individual case between the > person and the bishop, I'm sure. in response to a posting by Jim Cobabe: > >With regard to applying prophetic counsel, where is the line between > >personal prerogative and inspiration, and personal apost

Re: [ZION] Private from Redelfs

2003-09-20 Thread Jon Spencer
Amen. Sort of. Jon - Original Message - From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: [ZION] Private from Redelfs > As usual, Jim, you are right and the others are wrong on this thread ab

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-20 Thread Stacy Smith
I already said on previous posts that I found telemarketing probably as low as prostitution or close to it. My opinion has not changed. Stacy. At 12:49 AM 09/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: With all the people who are signing up on the do not call me lists, there will be far fewer telemarketing jobs

Re: [ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-20 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:14:53 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Counsel with the bishop" is a standard answer. As a problem > solving > strategy, it usually doesn't work at all, at least in my experience. > > Bishops don't have effective answers for any but the most routine