Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: > -Marc- > > Let me ask you the same question I've been asking others, than. If > > the criteria that the U.S. are using were to be applied to other > > countries in the area, a much better case could be made for > > invading Pakistan. Yet instead the US pours billions i

RE: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Marc- > Let me ask you the same question I've been asking others, than. If > the criteria that the U.S. are using were to be applied to other > countries in the area, a much better case could be made for > invading Pakistan. Yet instead the US pours billions into military > aid for Pakistan. Why

Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: > -Marc- > > Let me ask you the same question I've been asking others, than. If > > the criteria that the U.S. are using were to be applied to other > > countries in the area, a much better case could be made for > > invading Pakistan. Yet instead the US pours billions i

Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: > -Stephen- > > Nowhere in here is found an explicit or implicit condemnation of > > the US actions against Iraq. > > -Marc- > > Something neither John nor I said, incidentally. > > Sure you did. You wrote, regarding your criticisms of US actions against > Iraq: > >

RE: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Stephen- > Nowhere in here is found an explicit or implicit condemnation of > the US actions against Iraq. -Marc- > Something neither John nor I said, incidentally. Sure you did. You wrote, regarding your criticisms of US actions against Iraq: "I myself have a difficult time seeing how p

RE: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Marc- > Let me ask you the same question I've been asking others, than. If > the criteria that the U.S. are using were to be applied to other > countries in the area, a much better case could be made for > invading Pakistan. Yet instead the US pours billions into military > aid for Pakistan. Why

Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: > RE: Iraq and war > > -John- > > I felt that it should throw a bucket of cold water on some of those > > saints who are in favor of a war with Iraq. He said that as a Church > > we have to remain neutral and our members have to obey the laws of > > the land even if that

Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: > -Stephen- > > The US maintains that the actions against Iraq do not constitute > > a war of aggression, but are a defense of family and freedoms. > > -Mark- > > Saying it doesn't make it so. > > That's beside the point, which is that an argument can be made to > justif

RE: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Stephen- > The US maintains that the actions against Iraq do not constitute > a war of aggression, but are a defense of family and freedoms. -Mark- > Saying it doesn't make it so. That's beside the point, which is that an argument can be made to justify the US actions. The US government is no

Re: [ZION] Dove-breeding as a gospel hobby (was: Iraq and war)

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Gregson
> The US maintains that the actions against Iraq do not constitute a war of aggression, but are a defense of family and freedoms. Saying it doesn't make it so. Individuals are free to decide for themselves the justice of a particular action. If an American member feels that the governm