Re: [zones-discuss] Cost to Manage Solaris Containers vs. Just Global Zone?

2006-09-21 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Wee Yeh Tan wrote: > I do think there is an overall saving at least on my side although I > really need to ask the guys from the other groups to know for sure. Here's one qay zones will save time: deployment. Instead of going througha whole installation (seperate server), on

Re: [zones-discuss] Cost to Manage Solaris Containers vs. Just Global Zone?

2006-09-21 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
Mark, Here's what my organisation did with zones. We basically gave administrative privileges to the respective groups to manage their own zones. This turns out a lot cleaner since there is less overlap of responsibility and really improved turnaroud time launching new services. So the groups

Re: [zones-discuss] Cost to Manage Solaris Containers vs. Just Global Zone?

2006-09-21 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Mark Mulligan wrote: Hi Community, I was wondering if any customers had done an evaluation on the administrative time or cost (same thing really) improved by using the efficiencies of Solaris Containers vs. managing individual servers with just one Solaris 10 global zone or one Solaris 8/9 in

[zones-discuss] Cost to Manage Solaris Containers vs. Just Global Zone?

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Mulligan
Hi Community, I was wondering if any customers had done an evaluation on the administrative time or cost (same thing really) improved by using the efficiencies of Solaris Containers vs. managing individual servers with just one Solaris 10 global zone or one Solaris 8/9 instance. This is a hot

Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Re: Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
Andreas Koppenhoefer writes: > > See filesystem(5) -- non-OS software shouldn't be > > delivering to /usr/bin. > > Good pointer! I've googled several times looking for some definition about > correct use of /usr, /opt, etc., but did not find much regarding solaris. > Most documents are about Lin

[zones-discuss] Re: Re: Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread Andreas Koppenhoefer
> Can you describe how this software installs? Does it install files to > /usr/bin directly? It splatters over several existing directories unter /usr, mainly /usr/bin, /usr/share/man, /usr/lib and others. > If so, then I'd argue that the software isn't > really Solaris-compatible, let alone c

Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
Andreas Koppenhoefer writes: > > There's one notable option you didn't list: create > > /usr/foo (where 'foo' is the directory into which this software > > installs) as a writable directory within the zone. To do this, just > > use "add fs" to create either a lofs, ufs, or zfs mount. > > Right, t

[zones-discuss] Re: Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread Andreas Koppenhoefer
> There's one notable option you didn't list: create > /usr/foo (where 'foo' is the directory into which this software > installs) as a writable directory within the zone. To do this, just > use "add fs" to create either a lofs, ufs, or zfs mount. Right, that's another workaround we already use f

Re: [zones-discuss] Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
Andreas Koppenhoefer writes: > Usually we install local zones for our customer as sparse root. That is /lib, > /platform, /sbin and /usr as inherit-pkg-dir. > > Now suppose our customer requires a software to be installed in a single zone > below /usr. In the first step this is not possible sinc

Re: [zones-discuss] add an 'inherit-pkg' to an existing zone. Can this be done?

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Thanks for the reply. After I make configuration changes withing > zonecfg, how do you 'make' the changes to the running local zone? For You can either reboot the zone or use ordinary administrative commands to do it. For example, "mount -F lofs -o ro /some/dir

[zones-discuss] Convert sparse root to full root zone without reinstall?

2006-09-21 Thread Andreas Koppenhoefer
Usually we install local zones for our customer as sparse root. That is /lib, /platform, /sbin and /usr as inherit-pkg-dir. Now suppose our customer requires a software to be installed in a single zone below /usr. In the first step this is not possible since /usr is read-only. I already know abo