Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-dev]ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-25 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:49:40PM -0700, ender wrote: On Saturday 23 June 2001 11:20, Erik Enge wrote: [Simon Michael] | Now you're talking. Seconded. Me too! i'd very much like to see a GPL compatible zope license as well, both for products i create and to integrate with third

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:47:49AM +0100, Toby Dickenson wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:50:33 +0200 (CEST), Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the 'obnoxious advertising clause' seemingly puts a stop to it.. I understand that 'obnoxious advertising clause' is the phrase used

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:50:03PM +0100, Toby Dickenson wrote: Please, don't try to critize the FSF just for the fun of it. I did not intend any fun, nor criticism. Have you read the FSF's comment about the original 'obnoxious advertising clause' ? The problem is a practical one,

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:08:30AM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: OK, consider this from another point of view. If I have an operating system may I install a piece of GPL software on the operating system? May I redistribute the operating system? With the GPL software? May I invoke/run the GPL

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:02:34AM -0600, Casey Duncan wrote: To me this is the key point. If you GPL license a product (or other software) for Zope, you cannot subclass ZPL coded classes in your product without violating the GPL. This makes a strict GPL license nearly useless for Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 04:50:33PM +0200, Morten W. Petersen wrote: we @ thingamy are considering changing our license to a ZPL-ish one [1] to better serve our clients' needs. However, some of the (Zope) products we've developed may need to rely on GPL'ed code, or needs to be incorporated

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:27:08PM +0200, Erik Enge wrote: On 20 Jun 2001, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: i am sure that the QPL and the ZPL are completely incompatible but nobody cares because nobody really thinks that one is better than the other... I might be misunderstanding here, if

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hmm, I think this discussion doesn't belong to zope-dev. Still, for those interested in that topic: I raised a similar question on the debian-legal mailing list just yesterday (Q: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use). The discussion is still ongoing, and it certainly gives you

[Zope-dev] Problem with Hotfix 2000-10-11 on 2.1.6

2001-03-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
I'm having trouble installing Hotfix_2000-10-11 on Zope 2.1.6, although the README says: "The hotfix will work for all versions of Zope 2.2.0 and higher." If installed on 2.1.6, the product shows up as broken, since it tries to run "from OFS.ObjectManager import aq_base", which fails, since

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Hotfix 2000-10-11 on 2.1.6

2001-03-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:34:16PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Could somebody give me a hint if and how it's possible to backport the Hotfix to Zope 2.1.6 ? Surely it'd be better to move you servers forward to 2.2.5 or maybe 2.3.1 when it's out?! It's about

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Hotfix 2000-10-11 on 2.1.6

2001-03-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:10:50PM +1000, Zac Stevens wrote: Howdy, On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 01:28:13PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: | I'm having trouble installing Hotfix_2000-10-11 on Zope 2.1.6, although the | README says: "The hotfix will work for all versions of Zope

'All Hotfixes' page (was Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Hotfix 2000-10-11 on 2.1.6)

2001-03-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:34:47PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: I had read the start of the README (like you wrote: 'Zope versions up to and including Zope 2.2.2.'), but I had quoted and paragraph that indeed implied an answer to my question ('will work for all versions of Zope 2.2.0

Re: [Zope] License

2001-01-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 12:58:35PM +, Chris Withers wrote: And the reason I asked is 'cos, as I understand it, if I use a GPL-licensed product in a product/solution I provide, then I have to do that for free and open source it too, which often isn't an option :-( Nope, that's wrong. If

Re: [Zope] ActiveState on Zope.org

2001-01-22 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:32:29AM +0100, Martijn Pieters wrote: And if you browse the ActiveState site some more, you'll see what they do for OSS. Who says that an OSS shop needs to run exclusively on OSS or has no right to sell software solutions? We at Digital Creations also use

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANNOUNCE: Zope security alert and hotfix release

2000-12-18 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 02:02:08PM -0500, Brian Lloyd wrote: A security issue has recently come to our attention (thanks to Erik Enge for identifying this) that affects Zope versions up to and including Zope 2.2.4. ... The hotfix will work for all versions of Zope 2.2.0 and higher.

[Zope] Re: ANNOUNCE: Zope security alert and hotfix release

2000-12-18 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:30:56AM -0500, Brian Lloyd wrote: The hotfix will work for all versions of Zope 2.2.0 and higher. A future version of Zope will contain the fix for this issue, and you will be able to uninstall the hot fix after upgrading. This seems to imply that

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] November 8th Zope Weekly News

2000-11-08 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 11:56:28PM -0500, emf wrote: How Many Zopatistas? Zope gets downloaded from zope.org 12-15,000 times a month. It has risen steadily over the last year and a half. Zope has been downloaded roughly 200,000 times since version 2.0. Zope is distributed on

[Zope-dev] HiperDOM example (objlink, that is) ?

2000-10-26 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hi, perhaps I'm too stupid, but I don't grok how the objlink method in the HiperDOM example has to look like. Could somebody post an example ? Gregor ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] build Zope on linux

2000-10-09 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:00:52PM +0800, Sin Hang Kin wrote: When building current zope cvs, cPickle.c want the mymath.h. Where can I get mymath? What devel package I should install for a debian system? To compile binary Python extensions with Debian (as Zope needs), you need the python-dev

[Zope] Re: [Zope] Buying Zope for 139 German Marks - It´s cheapp

2000-09-06 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:01:38PM +0200, Harald Koschinski wrote: maybe its old new´s - maybe not: Zope is part of "SuSE Linux 7.0 Profesional Edititon" and this is printed on the box in the categorie "Features and Highlights". It is indeed a Highlight. Got a better buy: www.lob.de

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope security alert and 2.1.7 update [*important*]

2000-06-16 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Brian, from the announcement, it sounded like the only change from 2.1.6 to 2.1.7 was the fix to DT_String. Zope-2.1.7-src/doc/CHANGES.txt only lists: Bugs Fixed - An inadequately protected base class method made DTMLDocuments and DTMLMethods vulnerable to having their

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] [ANN] Zope at Linuxtag 2000 in Stuttgart

2000-06-06 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
I'll try very hard to be able to show up at least one day at the LinuxTag; I'm going to try to help out at the Debian booth as well. How about I18N as a topic for one of the discussions ? I guess many European sites and developers struggle with problems of I18N. Another topic I'm very