Re: [Zope] Where oh where is Repozo
On Jan 16, 2006, at 22:52, Jonathan Cyr wrote: Does the Zope Wiki article on Repozo tell you where to find it, maybe I missed it. I actually looked for quite a while. Maybe it just needs to be a little clearer... or maybe I need a smack in the head. I didn't have much success anyway, I setup my Zope/ZEO setup using SuSE 9.0's onboard Python and PIL installs, which, at the time, seemed an easy way to reproduce a ZEO client machine over and over. Upon running repozo, it can't find the pieces of Zope/ZODB, it needs to run, and I get an immediate traceback refering to the import of ZODB. After trying to adjust the pythonpath (wouldn't stick), and trying to drop repozo in the right directory. I couldn't get it to work. And, frankly, with everything Zope/Python/PIL working fine, I didn't mess with it very hard, fearing breaking it. Using SuSE's YAST installed Python seems to be my mistake... but It made sense at the time, and the right versions and everything... and although it works, upgrading Zope and using repozo are major drawbacks. I'll have to build a new box, correctly, and migrate to it. In any case, thanks for your time, -Jon I had the same problem with repozo. I "solved" it by modifying the repozo.py file and adding "sys.path.append( PATH/TO/ZOPE/lib/python )" right before the "from ZODB.FileStorage ..." line. It's not a beautiful fix, but it works. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] MySql 5.0, ZMySQLDA and stored procedures
I was getting the following error when attempting to call a stored procedure
via a Z SQL Method:
_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1312, etc
So I made the following change to
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/ZMySQLDA/db.py:
def _parse_connection_string(self, connection):
kwargs = {'conv': self.conv,
'client_flag': 65536 #inserted by CSB
}
I then restarted Zope. I can now successfully call stored procedures. There
may be a better way to do it. Feel free to advise if so.
Apologies if this information has already been posted.
Cameron
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[Zope] Autoconnect with ZMySQLDA 2.0.9
I have been seeing occasional "release unlocked lock" errors from a storage error in a two-phase commit which really comes from a "Lost connection to MySQL server during query". Apparently this arises from a failure of self.db.ping() to find a connected database as the transaction is opened. It is possible that the connection has really timed out. Looking at the code it appears that ZMySQLDA does not attempt to recreate the connection. Is that correct? What's the recommend approach to re-establish the connection? -d -- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!
>From Tino: --No matter if DTML is still there (and it will) we shouldfind better ways to teach people how to easy develope inZope.--Yes, you are right on all you mention. I didn't know PT was available in other environments/languages. Interesting. However, I still don't want to use them. Doesn't mean that someday I wont find a need and desire for it though. The reason I don't use PT is because I can do what I want without it. You mention that better ways to teach is needed, and you are right about that, but when someone like me has no desire to learn it, then it wont help. Worth noting though, I have looked at it briefly, and it confused the hell out of me. So, you may be right on anyway, because if it were explained in a such a way that caused me to just *get it*, then maybe I would go that route. I guess it's really a matter of, do I want to spend the time to learn something when I am loaded with other things to learn all the time, and why fix it if it isnt broke? (broke from my perspective ,that is.) Well, why can't there also be good training on DTML as well? (actually, I don't thinks it's all that bad anyway.) And, like Gary asked, why can't there be a peaceful coexistence bewteen the ZPT and DTML fans? The reason why I ask? Because there is commonley someone saying *DTML sucks, use PT* when users ask questions about DTML. (maybe not in those words, but you get the idea.) I don't know. I do appreciate your responses and thoughts Tino. (as you have always done for me in the past)GregOn 1/16/06, Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Greg Fischer schrieb: ...> I like what you said, be tolerant. Some of us don't see the limitations> of DTML as something that is broken, or that it is not good. I don'tI see we have to improve teaching.> think there is anything wrong with ZPT either, I simply don't have a use > for it. Coexist? Yes, I hope they always do.>> Personally, I am doing more and more with PHP. There are multiple> reasons for that, but partly it is due to a conception in the Zope> community that DTML is bad, and as such, it might go away. The *hype* is > all about ZPT, not DTML. I don't want to pursue a development platformYou can have PT with PHP too. Thats the cool part about it. Its reallykinda standard. You have PT for Zope, PHP, Perl, Java, ... > that is a foundation of my applications on something that is going away,> or even hinting to it. That might not be the case, might be totally> false. But we cant deny the fact that if there is no hype, then there > is no attention to it, and less people will use it and even less will> support it.I dont think thats the problem. I saw even weirder frameworksto work with. I guess we could introduce an even suckier template language and people would fall in love with it.BTW: ZPT is not, and was never a replacement for DTML.DTML would be replaced by application logic in pythonor python scripts and ZPT together.No matter if DTML is still there (and it will) we should find better ways to teach people how to easy develope inZope.++Tino-- Greg Fischer1st Byte Solutionshttp://www.1stbyte.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Where oh where is Repozo
Does the Zope Wiki article on Repozo tell you where to find it, maybe I missed it. I actually looked for quite a while. Maybe it just needs to be a little clearer... or maybe I need a smack in the head. I didn't have much success anyway, I setup my Zope/ZEO setup using SuSE 9.0's onboard Python and PIL installs, which, at the time, seemed an easy way to reproduce a ZEO client machine over and over. Upon running repozo, it can't find the pieces of Zope/ZODB, it needs to run, and I get an immediate traceback refering to the import of ZODB. After trying to adjust the pythonpath (wouldn't stick), and trying to drop repozo in the right directory. I couldn't get it to work. And, frankly, with everything Zope/Python/PIL working fine, I didn't mess with it very hard, fearing breaking it. Using SuSE's YAST installed Python seems to be my mistake... but It made sense at the time, and the right versions and everything... and although it works, upgrading Zope and using repozo are major drawbacks. I'll have to build a new box, correctly, and migrate to it. In any case, thanks for your time, -Jon Tim Peters wrote: [Jonathan Cyr] Where is the latest version of Repozo, the backup tool, kept? Is there a reason, that it's not included with the Zope install/utilities (at least the 2.7.x I'm using). [... time passes ...] Thanks for the quick response, I noticed that the my WinXP Zope (sandbox) doesn't have it, but my production SuSE Linux does. It's in my WinXP Zope-2_7-branch sandbox: C:\Code\Zope-2_7-branch>dir/b utilities\ZODBTools\rep* repozo.py It's also in Zope 2.8 branch, 2.9 branch, and current Zope trunk. For some reason (oversight?), Zope3 does not include ZODB tools, but you should find them in every flavor of Zope2 (and of course a CVS or SVN sandbox gets you the same stuff no matter which platform you use to do the checkout). ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Jonathan Cyr http://www.cyr.info http://www.weddingweblog.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!
Greg Fischer schrieb: ... > I like what you said, be tolerant. Some of us don't see the limitations > of DTML as something that is broken, or that it is not good. I don't I see we have to improve teaching. > think there is anything wrong with ZPT either, I simply don't have a use > for it. Coexist? Yes, I hope they always do. > > Personally, I am doing more and more with PHP. There are multiple > reasons for that, but partly it is due to a conception in the Zope > community that DTML is bad, and as such, it might go away. The *hype* is > all about ZPT, not DTML. I don't want to pursue a development platform You can have PT with PHP too. Thats the cool part about it. Its really kinda standard. You have PT for Zope, PHP, Perl, Java, ... > that is a foundation of my applications on something that is going away, > or even hinting to it. That might not be the case, might be totally > false. But we cant deny the fact that if there is no hype, then there > is no attention to it, and less people will use it and even less will > support it. I dont think thats the problem. I saw even weirder frameworks to work with. I guess we could introduce an even suckier template language and people would fall in love with it. BTW: ZPT is not, and was never a replacement for DTML. DTML would be replaced by application logic in python or python scripts and ZPT together. No matter if DTML is still there (and it will) we should find better ways to teach people how to easy develope in Zope. ++Tino ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!
I took part in an old thread from here from several months ago:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/zope/users/184052?do=post_view_threaded In there, some of the prominent members from this list came up with some great points on the DTML vs ZPT thing. All great stuff. However, I agree with you. While some of the ZPT fans say that DTML is broke and it sucks, and from there perspective it might, for some of us DTML is great and we have no desire to use ZPT. For us, DTML is not broke. I like what you said, be tolerant. Some of us don't see the limitations of DTML as something that is broken, or that it is not good. I don't think there is anything wrong with ZPT either, I simply don't have a use for it. Coexist? Yes, I hope they always do. Personally, I am doing more and more with PHP. There are multiple reasons for that, but partly it is due to a conception in the Zope community that DTML is bad, and as such, it might go away. The *hype* is all about ZPT, not DTML. I don't want to pursue a development platform that is a foundation of my applications on something that is going away, or even hinting to it. That might not be the case, might be totally false. But we cant deny the fact that if there is no hype, then there is no attention to it, and less people will use it and even less will support it. Now don't get me wrong about that last paragraph, I LOVE ZOPE! It just does things so easily that other environments have to struggle with. (Acquisition being one of them. Which also is something that people say is broke in some ways. It does do weird things sometimes. But if you know how to deal with them... ;) I hope my opinions are of help to others. (just remember, these are just my opinions, to those to might be ready to slam me for them. I intend no offense.)GregOn 1/16/06, garry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote:> Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:>>> On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:29 +0100, Garito wrote:>>> I thing DTML and ZClasses will disapear someday > You think, I hope :-)>> I beg ;-) .> ___Can someone explain why there is a continual battle between those who like dtml and those who like zpt?Surely the two can co-exist and then individual developers can choosewhich most suits them. Neither seems to be broken and both provide avalid experience for users, so let's be tolerant. :-) regardsGarry___Zope maillist - Zope@zope.orghttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )-- Greg Fischer1st Byte Solutionshttp://www.1stbyte.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ANN: ZSyncer 0.7.1-beta1 released
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 07:48:45PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Synchronization modifies "bobobase_modification_time" on the target. Yep. > A safe method to check whether you have a current state is to > register the "bobobase_modification_time" (on source and target) > that resulted from the synchronization. > A resynchronization is necessary when the "bobobase_modification_time" > moved away from the registered "sync_bobobase_time"s. Ahhh, now I see. Thank you, this is probably cheaper than most of my ideas. I could store that info in a BTree of some flavor. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ANN: ZSyncer 0.7.1-beta1 released
Paul Winkler wrote at 2006-1-15 17:28 -0500: > ... >> >Yes. These are limitations of comparing objects that have only >> >a bobobase_modification_time timestamp. >> >See ZSyncer/README.txt, in the "Usage" section. >> > >> >Solving this problem is hard. See ZSyncer/TODO.txt. >> >> You should remember the synchronized "bobobase_modification_time"s >> (this may cost an additional (small) request). > >I'm sorry, I can't seem to understand what you mean. Synchronization modifies "bobobase_modification_time" on the target. A safe method to check whether you have a current state is to register the "bobobase_modification_time" (on source and target) that resulted from the synchronization. A resynchronization is necessary when the "bobobase_modification_time" moved away from the registered "sync_bobobase_time"s. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!
Nicolas Georgakopoulos wrote: Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:29 +0100, Garito wrote: I thing DTML and ZClasses will disapear someday You think, I hope :-) I beg ;-) . ___ Can someone explain why there is a continual battle between those who like dtml and those who like zpt? Surely the two can co-exist and then individual developers can choose which most suits them. Neither seems to be broken and both provide a valid experience for users, so let's be tolerant. :-) regards Garry ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!
Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:29 +0100, Garito wrote: I thing DTML and ZClasses will disapear someday You think, I hope :-) I beg ;-) . ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] wrong directoy in Control_Panel.Products.XXXX.home
En/na Dieter Maurer ha escrit: Zope's behaviour in handling product updates below "Control_Panel.Products" is very difficult to understand. ;-) It usually freaks me out when I (seldom) delete a product from the filesystem and it's still there in the control panel.. Almost surely, it will help when you delete all "closed" products there and then restart Zope. The restart will recreate the product objects for installed products -- hopefully with the correct "home" attribute. yes, as I said in the original message this is what I did. I was just asking if this is the expected behaviour of Control_Panel (which could break products using the home attribute, like in my case CMFQuickInstaller) and if there is a better(?) way that doesn't involve deleting the products and restarting zope. Bye -- Luca Olivetti Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/ Tel. +34 93 5883004 Fax +34 93 5883007 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Authorization Problems while using manage_addFile()
--On 16. Januar 2006 14:02:22 +0530 Varun Bhansaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We have imported a zope application from another machine. After starting the application we are unable to create a file using using the API manage_addFile(),which is strange because we are being able to use the API manage_delObjects() to delete an existing object. VerboseSecurity can tell you why this error occurs... -aj pgpd8jS4hKk10.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Authorization Problems while using manage_addFile()
We have imported a zope application from another machine. After starting the application we are unable to create a file using using the API manage_addFile(),which is strange because we are being able to use the API manage_delObjects() to delete an existing object. This is the Error we have encountered.. *** Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Unauthorized Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 175, in publish_module_standard * Module Products.iHotfix, line 88, in new_publish * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 132, in publish * Module Zope.App.startup, line 204, in zpublisher_exception_hook * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec * Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec * Module None, line 4, in reset_tab Line 4 * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec * Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec * Module None, line 1, in refresh_tab Line 1 * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__ * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec * Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec * Module None, line 9, in update_result Line 9 Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access 'manage_addFile' in this context (Also, an error occurred while attempting to render the standard error message.) *** We have tried changing all the security permissions,we have even logged in administrator but this too has been of no use. We are using Zope Version (Zope 2.7.8-final, python 2.4.0) Python Version 2.4 Thanks ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
