Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions?

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Geoff Davis wrote: No, I think I understood you. I was being sloppy in my use of language. I should have said something more like Zope 3 then becomes an application server built around the Zed library. Or Zed is the part of Zope that can be used without Zope. -- hilsen/regards Max M,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] Sounds like the original vision of Zope 3 without the X. I thought we never got around to developing this stuff the last time. Actually, no. We originally said that we would provide a transition path. I said over and over that this was *not*

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that having one name for two radically different, though related, things is very confusing. There are really 2 main technologies that people care about: 1. The Zope app server. This is characterized by things like an object file system, through-the-web

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:08 AM, Max M wrote: Splitting up Zope to let people use seperate pieces of Zope aka Zed is not a valid reason. Good software practise is a valid reason. But catering for those few developers that wants to use just a few pieces is probably not worth the effort. Here's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]: It's not about sacrificing the Zope-the-app-server brand. It's actually about growing it in the sense that it becomes much clearer WHAT THE HELL Zope actually is. Or can you explain what Zope is in one sentence? But it all comes down to the depths (or

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: I think one needs to be Manager to upload content to the Products area on zope.org. I would give the new window maintainer a local Manager role in this case...so who is willing to care about the future Windows build? I would like to see a longer commitment for this job.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Sidnei da Silva wrote: | OK, are either you (or anyone else at Enfold) or Tim going to roll the | 2.9.1 binary or would you like me to pick it up from now on? Can't promise anything about 2.9.1. It might happen later on though. I'm happy to pick this up, just gimme the nod! Chris --

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:34:49PM +, Chris Withers wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | | OK, are either you (or anyone else at Enfold) or Tim going to roll the | | 2.9.1 binary or would you like me to pick it up from now on? | | Can't promise anything about 2.9.1. It might happen later on

[Zope-dev] [JOB] Zope Consultant, NYC

2006-03-03 Thread Beau Gould
Zope Consultant, NYC My NYC client needs help understanding modifying a Zope-based CMS that was previously built for their client My client would prefer the candidate to work on-site, but it’s not mandatory; however, a face-2-face interview is required. Local candidates need only apply

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Cool, I'll try and get the builds done on Monday, will report back with any problems... How should I run all the Zope tests once I have a candidate build? cheers, Chris Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:34:49PM +, Chris Withers wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | | OK, are

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

2006-03-03 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris Withers] ... How should I run all the Zope tests once I have a candidate build? Section Testing Zope in http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/inst/WinBuilders/README.txt ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

[Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Stefane Fermigier wrote: Strange how (most of) the Plone people seem to be so quick in willing to sacrifice the Zope brand :( In out world Zope doesn't have a brand. Plone has a it. Most of our customers doesn't have a clue as to what Zope is. As far as I can tell, Zope is a developers

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions?

2006-03-03 Thread Max M
Benji York wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Good point. There's the question: Does this zed thing need a different name at all? If we want other people to pick it up, then it seems like a good idea to distinguish it from Zope-the-app-server. Paul seems to suggest that in his response.

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Roman Klesel
Andrew Milton schrieb: Perhaps if you describe the problem you're trying to solve, we can actually help you. Yes, thank you! I just want to be able to do what I'm used to do from TTW: - There is a hirarchy of Folder/File objects - In the root directory there is an python script

Fwd: [Zope] Re: (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Einar Næss Jensen
-- Forwarded message -- From: Einar Næss Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 3, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4 To: Patrick Decat [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/2/06, Patrick Decat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the following to Resource.py :

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Roman Klesel ]-- | Andrew Milton schrieb: | | Perhaps if you describe the problem you're trying to solve, we can actually | help you. | | | Yes, thank you! | just as in my example above I want to be able to call this methods on any File objects from a ZPT

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Roman Klesel
Andrew Milton schrieb: | ul | li tal:repeat=elem context/objectValues | img tal:attributes=src string: ${elem/absolute_url}/genGraph plot /img | /li | ul In what way doesn't this work? I've certainly used this pattern in my FS products without problems. Hmm? Did I miss something?

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Roman Klesel ]-- | Andrew Milton schrieb: | | ul | | li tal:repeat=elem context/objectValues | | img tal:attributes=src string: ${elem/absolute_url}/genGraph plot /img | | /li | | ul | | In what way doesn't this work? I've certainly used this pattern in

[Zope] TypeError: unpack non-sequence. RemoteUserFolder? - problem solved

2006-03-03 Thread leandros van den berg
Because I am running Zope on localhost, I am not a remote user when I try to log in. I replaced the acl_users (Remote User Folder) object with an acl_users (User Folder) object and it worked. Problem solved. -- Leandros van den Berg ___ Zope maillist

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Roman Klesel
Andrew Milton schrieb: How about you forget about Acquisition for now. Well, hmmm ... this will be hard ... I was just about to fall in love with it ... Define the method in the class you want to call it on. Then I will have to subclass from OFS.Image.File and I was told that this is

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Roman Klesel ]-- | Andrew Milton schrieb: | How about you forget about Acquisition for now. | | | Well, hmmm ... this will be hard ... I was just about to fall in love with it ... It's definitely useful, but, you have to pick your moments to use it. | Define

Re: [Zope] Re: (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Patrick Decat
You're right, I've copied/pasted the same patch twice, sorry ! I use both the Ressource.py and Collection.py patches to make O2K3 happy. Regards, Patrick. On 3/3/06, Einar Næss Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Einar Næss Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zope] UnpicklingError (_importDuringCommit)

2006-03-03 Thread Aroldo Souza-Leite
Hi list, I'm getting the UnpicklingError error below while trying to do an Import-Export-Import from an Ubuntu hoary to an Ubuntu Breezy Zope-2.8.5 , Python 2.3.5 - instance. I found similar errors in the archives, but no explanation for this one. Thanks. Aroldo.

[Zope] {JOB] Zope Consultant, NYC

2006-03-03 Thread Beau Gould
Zope Consultant, NYC My NYC client needs help understanding modifying a Zope-based CMS that was previously built for their client My client would prefer the candidate to work on-site, but it’s not mandatory; however, a face-2-face interview is mandatory. Local candidates need only apply

Re: [Zope] (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-3-2 14:53 +: ... If you're trying to use the M$ WebFolder-stuff you might as well give up immediately. It simply does not work right. We are using it -- quite successfully :-) We had to fix some bugs in Zope's WebDAV support, e.g.

[Zope] catching BadRequest exceptions

2006-03-03 Thread Palermo, Tom
All, It seems that BadRequest exceptions, like the ones thrown by checkValidId() in OFS.ObjectManager (lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py), are not handled by a standard_error_message. That is, I can't skin the error message so it looks friendly and doesn't show a traceback. Does anyone know

[Zope] Re: UnpicklingError (_importDuringCommit)

2006-03-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aroldo Souza-Leite wrote: I'm getting the UnpicklingError error below while trying to do an Import-Export-Import from an Ubuntu hoary to an Ubuntu Breezy Zope-2.8.5 , Python 2.3.5 - instance. I found similar errors in the archives, but no

Re: [Zope] Acquisition not working as expected

2006-03-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Roman Klesel wrote at 2006-3-3 08:20 +0100: ... In your case, the method test3 is not defined by Folder but by what you call your product instance (still a wrong term!). Therefore, its self is necessarily an instance of your product (I keep your wrong term). And self.getId() gives

Re: [Zope] (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-3-3 17:11 +: ... I believe you've signed a contributor agreement now... As often, your belief is wrong ;-) I think the foundation is not yet ready and I am not yet invited (you need an invitation to become a contributor). -- Dieter

[Zope] Zope for non-Web applications?

2006-03-03 Thread Rodrigo de Salvo Braz
Hi, I don't even know Python yet, but I was wondering if it makes sense to use Zope as a OO database in non-Web applications written in Python. Any thoughts on that? Thanks, Rodrigo ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org

Re: [Zope] Zope for non-Web applications?

2006-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 3/3/06, Rodrigo de Salvo Braz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't even know Python yet, but I was wondering if it makes sense to use Zope as a OO database in non-Web applications written in Python. Any thoughts on that? Zope as a whole, no. ZODB, yes. Several people are using it outside of

Re: [Zope] Re: (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Pablo Ziliani
First, I am getting emails in the digest mode so apologies to everyone if this has been already discussed after I got the last issue, about five hours ago. I also need to have the webdav server working for MS. If somebody sent patches or links to them (other than the one I quoted below) I

[Zope] awstats and zope

2006-03-03 Thread Barry Drake
Does anyone know of a customization of the awstats file search_engines.pm (Perl) that works with Zope's built in search? Before I start doing this, I'd like to know if someone has already done it! Thanks. Barry Drake ___ Zope maillist -

[Zope] Re: (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pablo Ziliani wrote: First, I am getting emails in the digest mode so apologies to everyone if this has been already discussed after I got the last issue, about five hours ago. I also need to have the webdav server working for MS. If somebody

[Zope] Status of blobs and rdb plugged into ZODB

2006-03-03 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I have written a blob type product about a year or so ago and I remember at that time there was the promise of being able to plug different backends into the ZODB. This was to be one of the new features of ZODB that would allow some interesting things to occur. What is the status of this

Re: [Zope] (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread robert rottermann
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2006-3-3 17:11 +: ... I believe you've signed a contributor agreement now... As often, your belief is wrong ;-) I think the foundation is not yet ready and I am not yet invited (you need an invitation to become a contributor).

Re: [Zope] (microsoft) webdav and zope 2.8.4

2006-03-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. März 2006 13:01:45 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2006-3-3 17:11 +: ... I believe you've signed a contributor agreement now... As often, your belief is wrong ;-) I think the foundation is not yet ready and I am not yet invited (you need an